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Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189266
Connected: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1250847
PrimeXBT ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5077142.0
PrimeXBT Bounty topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5077022.0

I recently saw a few posts pop up about Prime XBT so I did a little research. Prime XBT is supposed to be "a brand new cryptocurrency trading platform offering 100x leverage, high liquidity and fast order execution.", so basically a Bitmex competitor.

This topic got my attention. User ber68dclass posted IN THIS TOPIC saying that he made $112,000 by margin trading on Prime XBT and is asking how fast their withdrawals are. He then later posts this:

Hey guys! I’ve made $112k on that platform yesterday! check it out.. Anyone has experience with them? How quickly they withdraw funds ? I have originally posted the whole story here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112000.0
Thanks!



Don't worry, PrimeXBT processes all pending withdrawal daily between 12 and 13 UTC, you can also ask support, they ready to help you 24/7

Withdrawal is done! thank you so much for support ! I love PrimeXBT!!! Definitely will recommend to all my friends who trade on margin



This same user answered questions about Prime XBT earlier, making it sound like he is involved in the exchange/company (this post was deleted, not archived):

No KYC? That's good. If this is the starting standard, then everyone will love you guys.

I have just t 3 questions for you guys, to show you are a platform serious about being one of the big players.

1: Do you have proof of funds for your competition? That's a lot of money, be nice to show us you actually have it. In fact, why not choose a forum escrow for just 1% of that? Better still give 1% of that for a signature campaign, more new members, more exposure.
2: Do you have enough staff to provide customer support to get all those thousands of new members?
3: Do you allow fiat withdrawal?

No KYC

1. Our company was found by an investment fund and we have enough investments to launch such a marketing campaign
2. We have quite a big front office to deal with support and account of airdrop campaign
3. no, only crypto withdrawals

He also posted his Prime XBT employee e-mail address (post also deleted):



Doing some research on the Prime XBT website shows their Republic of Seychelles company number: 148707



Guess who shares that same company number? Their competitor Bitmex! What a coincidence!



A large section in their T&C is a blatant copy of Bitmex's T&C.

In a different part of their T&C they mention a different Republic of Seychelles company number: 206865



A quick search in the Republic of Seychelles company database shows that there is no company named "PrimeXBT", "Prime XBT" or any other bitcoin related company with "Prime" in its name registered:



EDIT: Another red flag is their insane amount of fake Twitter followers: https://twitter.com/PrimeXbt/followers (https://i.imgur.com/o6ra8qb.gif)

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TL;DR

  • A PrimeXBT employee (posts his email address and answers questions) pretends to be a happy customer by saying he has earned $112,000 on the exchange.
  • He gets confronted and deletes all his employee posts.
  • PrimeXBT copy/pasted a section of Bitmex's T&C, including their Seychelles business number.
  • PrimeXBT included a second Seychelles business number in their T&C but can't be found in the Seychelles business register.
  • PrimeXBT editted their T&C bu no official response yet.
  • Their Twitter account is littered with fake followers.
  • This thread gets attack by shitposting newbie accounts, none of them posted in the PrimeXBT ANN prior to this thread.


Conclusion: The chance of getting scammed by this "company" is highly likely and I would seriously advise anyone to stay away from them.


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Its enough proof to call them scammer. I tagged both of them due to they used same Republic of Seychelles company number of BitMex. Most likely they have tried to spin  contents from BitMex. Register number couldn't be same on both company.

Thanks for awareness





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February 23, 2019, 08:25:23 AM
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Good Job again!

It's a lot of time that i keep them under control, and i'm also sure that their ANN Tread is self bumped by fake user for stay high in servces tread. I reported them to moderator and some post was deleted too (i think by mod):

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February 24, 2019, 07:24:45 AM
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Its enough proof to call them scammer. I tagged both of them due to they used same Republic of Seychelles company number of BitMex. Most likely they have tried to spin  contents from BitMex. Register number couldn't be same on both company.

Thanks for awareness

I couldn't find anything related to that other number but the fact that they aren't in the Republic of Seychelles business means that they are lying in their T&C.
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Hey TheNewAnon135246 – it seems that you didn’t even make a proper research before you accuse primexbt in scam.. First of all – even if you search for HDR Global Trading Limited (which is bitmex) with the same link you shared – you also won’t be able to find their presence. According to your logic bitmex is also a scam.  


Probably they copy-pasted part of T&Cs of bitmex because it’s a very similar business and they decided to use the know how of established player (hey, many do this) and btw T&Cs and other policies are still different

Go and check technology of primexbt and you will be surprised, since easily can be worth millions of usd in development..

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I'm sure you are an alt of this user, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459917 ,  and ayou are reated to more than one scam project....  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Hey TheNewAnon135246 – it seems that you didn’t even make a proper research before you accuse primexbt in scam.. First of all – even if you search for HDR Global Trading Limited (which is bitmex) with the same link you shared – you also won’t be able to find their presence. According to your logic bitmex is also a scam. 


Probably they copy-pasted part of T&Cs of bitmex because it’s a very similar business and they decided to use the know how of established player (hey, many do this) and btw T&Cs and other policies are still different

Go and check technology of primexbt and you will be surprised, since easily can be worth millions of usd in development..



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I personally traded on primexbt. No problem with deposits withdrawals and trading. Actually trading execution is even better than on their competitors, no complaints.

About the twitter – many companies are doing that in order to increase organic growth in twitter.. cant see issues here. I bet all exchanges out there are having 50% of bots in their followers . nnnooooo problem

And probably ber68dclass is a scammer, or he  is simply tried to promote his referral link to gain some trust etc
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 You are the 3° alt of mitchell 69 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459917 .
Why i wrote this? Just go to read the merit history for undarstand.

I personally traded on primexbt. No problem with deposits withdrawals and trading. Actually trading execution is even better than on their competitors, no complaints.

About the twitter – many companies are doing that in order to increase organic growth in twitter.. cant see issues here. I bet all exchanges out there are having 50% of bots in their followers . nnnooooo problem

And probably ber68dclass is a scammer, or he  is simply tried to promote his referral link to gain some trust etc

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 You are the 3° alt of mitchell 69 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459917 .
Why i wrote this? Just go to read the merit history for undarstand.

I personally traded on primexbt. No problem with deposits withdrawals and trading. Actually trading execution is even better than on their competitors, no complaints.

About the twitter – many companies are doing that in order to increase organic growth in twitter.. cant see issues here. I bet all exchanges out there are having 50% of bots in their followers . nnnooooo problem

And probably ber68dclass is a scammer, or he  is simply tried to promote his referral link to gain some trust etc

I don't accept baseless allegations. Fake claimes are unfounded. The project has its own community and its participants are always interacting.
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TheNewAnon135246  has posted more than we need for understand their (and probably your) scam intentions. It is all clear, stated from seychelles institutional website.


 You are the 3° alt of mitchell 69 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459917 .
Why i wrote this? Just go to read the merit history for undarstand.

I personally traded on primexbt. No problem with deposits withdrawals and trading. Actually trading execution is even better than on their competitors, no complaints.

About the twitter – many companies are doing that in order to increase organic growth in twitter.. cant see issues here. I bet all exchanges out there are having 50% of bots in their followers . nnnooooo problem

And probably ber68dclass is a scammer, or he  is simply tried to promote his referral link to gain some trust etc

I don't accept baseless allegations. Fake claimes are unfounded. The project has its own community and its participants are always interacting.

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hey

just spend my time researching and it was such a waste. I frequently use BTT for project analysis but never had an account here. Now, I even decided to register and reply, because im interested in PrimeXBT and I see only positive comments, review etc apart from TheNewAnon135246 post and Zerbis, who is a scammer himself.

I tried searching Seychelles register - and I could not find Bitmex (HDR Global trading) there either..
TheNewAnon135246 - please explain why you base your scam accusation based on that? is Bitmex scam as well in your theory? Please elaborate, because otherwise you are completely misleading forum users.

Just check out Zerbis trust profile guys!!!   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=949547  hahaha go and promote casinos and Ponzi man..

PrimeXBT seems legit and a very promising upcoming player on the cryptocurrency market..

good luck u all

TheNewAnon135246  has posted more than we need for understand their (and probably your) scam intentions. It is all clear, stated from seychelles institutional website.


 You are the 3° alt of mitchell 69 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459917 .
Why i wrote this? Just go to read the merit history for undarstand.

I personally traded on primexbt. No problem with deposits withdrawals and trading. Actually trading execution is even better than on their competitors, no complaints.

About the twitter – many companies are doing that in order to increase organic growth in twitter.. cant see issues here. I bet all exchanges out there are having 50% of bots in their followers . nnnooooo problem

And probably ber68dclass is a scammer, or he  is simply tried to promote his referral link to gain some trust etc

I don't accept baseless allegations. Fake claimes are unfounded. The project has its own community and its participants are always interacting.
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TheNewAnon135246  has posted more than we need for understand their (and probably your) scam intentions. It is all clear, stated from seychelles institutional website.


 You are the 3° alt of mitchell 69 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459917 .
Why i wrote this? Just go to read the merit history for undarstand.

I personally traded on primexbt. No problem with deposits withdrawals and trading. Actually trading execution is even better than on their competitors, no complaints.

About the twitter – many companies are doing that in order to increase organic growth in twitter.. cant see issues here. I bet all exchanges out there are having 50% of bots in their followers . nnnooooo problem

And probably ber68dclass is a scammer, or he  is simply tried to promote his referral link to gain some trust etc

I don't accept baseless allegations. Fake claimes are unfounded. The project has its own community and its participants are always interacting.

Hey - in your misleading scam thread someone made the same search on Seychelles register. Searching for “HDR GLOBAL TRADING” which is Bitmex. and guess what - its not there as well. Please comment on this, smartass// Bitmex is a scam as well ?
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Hey , you confirmed that you are more stupid thank i think! About my trust: red trust was trust I left to scammer like you


hey

just spend my time researching and it was such a waste. I frequently use BTT for project analysis but never had an account here. Now, I even decided to register and reply, because im interested in PrimeXBT and I see only positive comments, review etc apart from TheNewAnon135246 post and Zerbis, who is a scammer himself.

I tried searching Seychelles register - and I could not find Bitmex (HDR Global trading) there either..
TheNewAnon135246 - please explain why you base your scam accusation based on that? is Bitmex scam as well in your theory? Please elaborate, because otherwise you are completely misleading forum users.

Just check out Zerbis trust profile guys!!!   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=949547  hahaha go and promote casinos and Ponzi man..

PrimeXBT seems legit and a very promising upcoming player on the cryptocurrency market..

good luck u all

TheNewAnon135246  has posted more than we need for understand their (and probably your) scam intentions. It is all clear, stated from seychelles institutional website.


 You are the 3° alt of mitchell 69 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459917 .
Why i wrote this? Just go to read the merit history for undarstand.

I personally traded on primexbt. No problem with deposits withdrawals and trading. Actually trading execution is even better than on their competitors, no complaints.

About the twitter – many companies are doing that in order to increase organic growth in twitter.. cant see issues here. I bet all exchanges out there are having 50% of bots in their followers . nnnooooo problem

And probably ber68dclass is a scammer, or he  is simply tried to promote his referral link to gain some trust etc

I don't accept baseless allegations. Fake claimes are unfounded. The project has its own community and its participants are always interacting.

Don't look back in anger
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Hi, there.

I found the link to this thread in primexbt main thread. I am an active trader on prime and got afraid when I saw this scam warning, but when I read through this thread, I understood that there is absolutely no evidence for making such false statements. The only motivation that I can imagine is an attempt to kill the rival.

Here is the summary of your arguments that you used to prove to everyone that the company is scam:

1. Someone promoted primexbt here in BTT
2. The company made a typo in the terms
3. You can't find a newly established company in some register (do you know how often is it updated? what companies does it include: just public or private and public?).
4. Twitter account has some followers with no avatars/posts. Well, this is the strongest argument. Please make the similar thread for Bitfinex: https://twitter.com/bitfinex/followers

If you want to make a proper investigation, you should have made an official request to the company itself and the government authority and share the results here with us. I hope that the company has qualified lawyers to defend its reputation.

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The fact that all these shitposting accounts come in here to defend PrimeXBT shows that I was right. The funny thing is that all these accounts appear to be posting/bumping the same topics but none of them have posted in the PrimeXBT thread prior to this scam accusation.

For those that claim that Bitmex isn't registered, they are:



Hi, there.

I found the link to this thread in primexbt main thread. I am an active trader on prime and got afraid when I saw this scam warning, but when I read through this thread, I understood that there is absolutely no evidence for making such false statements. The only motivation that I can imagine is an attempt to kill the rival.

Here is the summary of your arguments that you used to prove to everyone that the company is scam:

1. Someone promoted primexbt here in BTT
2. The company made a typo in the terms
3. You can't find a newly established company in some register (do you know how often is it updated? what companies does it include: just public or private and public?).
4. Twitter account has some followers with no avatars/posts. Well, this is the strongest argument. Please make the similar thread for Bitfinex: https://twitter.com/bitfinex/followers

If you want to make a proper investigation, you should have made an official request to the company itself and the government authority and share the results here with us. I hope that the company has qualified lawyers to defend its reputation.

Peace everyone.

1. It's not promoting. He first claims that he is a staff member (even posts his staff email address), then acts like he is a customer that made $112,000 by trading on PrimeXBT. People start confronting him with his previous posts and he deletes everything that links him to PrimeXBT.
2. Made a typo? They copied Bitmex's company number. What kind of self respecting company does that?
3. I wouldn't call 4 months old newly established. Every company can be found in a registry, there is no such thing as a private registry. You can't just access all company information but you can definitely find if a company is registered.
4. What does Bitfinex has to do with this?

How can I contact "the government authority" when it is unclear where they are located and they are clearly lying about being a registered company?
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Can you at least read? Official Bitmex company is HDR Global Trading Limited. Not the one you are pointing in the register.
Tip: Look into the footer on bitmex.com website.
Also crunchbase profile: https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/bitmex---bitcoin-mercantile-exchange

Its different name, so you are just trying to defend your silly accusation. At least admit it.
Just explains again why this whole statement doesn't make any sense.

Anyways, good luck spreading FUD, I will rather focus on trading and making money $  )

The fact that all these shitposting accounts come in here to defend PrimeXBT shows that I was right. The funny thing is that all these accounts appear to be posting/bumping the same topics but none of them have posted in the PrimeXBT thread prior to this scam accusation.

For those that claim that Bitmex isn't registered, they are:

https://i.imgur.com/0dwcsnz.png

Hi, there.

I found the link to this thread in primexbt main thread. I am an active trader on prime and got afraid when I saw this scam warning, but when I read through this thread, I understood that there is absolutely no evidence for making such false statements. The only motivation that I can imagine is an attempt to kill the rival.

Here is the summary of your arguments that you used to prove to everyone that the company is scam:

1. Someone promoted primexbt here in BTT
2. The company made a typo in the terms
3. You can't find a newly established company in some register (do you know how often is it updated? what companies does it include: just public or private and public?).
4. Twitter account has some followers with no avatars/posts. Well, this is the strongest argument. Please make the similar thread for Bitfinex: https://twitter.com/bitfinex/followers

If you want to make a proper investigation, you should have made an official request to the company itself and the government authority and share the results here with us. I hope that the company has qualified lawyers to defend its reputation.

Peace everyone.

1. It's not promoting. He first claims that he is a staff member (even posts his staff email address), then acts like he is a customer that made $112,000 by trading on PrimeXBT. People start confronting him with his previous posts and he deletes everything that links him to PrimeXBT.
2. Made a typo? They copied Bitmex's company number. What kind of self respecting company does that?
3. I wouldn't call 4 months old newly established. Every company can be found in a registry, there is no such thing as a private registry. You can't just access all company information but you can definitely find if a company is registered.
4. What does Bitfinex has to do with this?

How can I contact "the government authority" when it is unclear where they are located and they are clearly lying about being a registered company?
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The fact that all these shitposting accounts come in here to defend PrimeXBT shows that I was right. The funny thing is that all these accounts appear to be posting/bumping the same topics but none of them have posted in the PrimeXBT thread prior to this scam accusation.

For those that claim that Bitmex isn't registered, they are:

https://i.imgur.com/0dwcsnz.png

Hi, there.

I found the link to this thread in primexbt main thread. I am an active trader on prime and got afraid when I saw this scam warning, but when I read through this thread, I understood that there is absolutely no evidence for making such false statements. The only motivation that I can imagine is an attempt to kill the rival.

Here is the summary of your arguments that you used to prove to everyone that the company is scam:

1. Someone promoted primexbt here in BTT
2. The company made a typo in the terms
3. You can't find a newly established company in some register (do you know how often is it updated? what companies does it include: just public or private and public?).
4. Twitter account has some followers with no avatars/posts. Well, this is the strongest argument. Please make the similar thread for Bitfinex: https://twitter.com/bitfinex/followers

If you want to make a proper investigation, you should have made an official request to the company itself and the government authority and share the results here with us. I hope that the company has qualified lawyers to defend its reputation.

Peace everyone.

1. It's not promoting. He first claims that he is a staff member (even posts his staff email address), then acts like he is a customer that made $112,000 by trading on PrimeXBT. People start confronting him with his previous posts and he deletes everything that links him to PrimeXBT.
2. Made a typo? They copied Bitmex's company number. What kind of self respecting company does that?
3. I wouldn't call 4 months old newly established. Every company can be found in a registry, there is no such thing as a private registry. You can't just access all company information but you can definitely find if a company is registered.
4. What does Bitfinex has to do with this?

1. Still don't get the idea of how this could be an argument that allows you to make a statement that a company is a scam
2. People make typos (even the best), can we call someone scam because they make typos? I am sure that it was a typo because it has been fixed.
3. You have no idea how is the registry work and you didn't bother to learn or ask anyone but used your misleading opinion to make a serious statement.
4. I don't know, that was your argument. Why don't you call Bitfinex scam?

How can I contact "the government authority" when it is unclear where they are located and they are clearly lying about being a registered company?

So you made such a great "research" and don't understand how and what to ask? You can ask them if such company exists. Here is an official email: webmaster@ict.gov.sc Please do the job before accusing anyone.

So what you do here is spreading your unverified opinion and trying to convince us that these are the facts. Don't try to manipulate the community.

Please also compare the screenshot that you posted here with the official name of the company:

https://i.imgur.com/0dwcsnz.png - here is what you posted here HDR Virtual assets trading ltd

https://i.gyazo.com/2c70407ac1249f1a94445033a12cb282.png - the company name from t&c HDR Global Trading Limited

How can you tell us that it's the same company? Please stop this.
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I heard about this site when there was someone promoting of the $1,000,000 giveaway by PrimeXBT in my local board as well as on the Games and Round board. I was so attracted because of the amount of the giveaway is so huge and there are many chances to win something from the giveaways as there will be 10,000 winners. I read the terms about the giveaway and find this below shady term of the giveaway as I posted somewhere else at the games and round thread.

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3.4. To activate your account you must deposit at least 100% equivalent of the prize and complete 20 trades each valued 100x of the amount credited (for example if you won $400 you must deposit $400, complete 20 trades with 100x leverage and then claim and withdraw the prize).

IMO it is like a TRAP giveaway because winners are required to deposit equivalent amount of the prize and risking it by trade it with 100x leverage. It is definitely not a giveaway, too much risks involved for the winners of the giveaway.
Probably it is not related to the scam accusation above, but it is shady thing that I found on the site. What is the point of offering giveaway but asking winner to deposit the same amount as the winning prize?

P.S @TheNewAnon135246 shoot me a PM if it is Out Of Topic, I'll delete it ASAP.
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February 25, 2019, 07:46:35 PM
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There is no need to delete your post as it isn't off-topic at all. It's another red flag that shows there is something wrong with PrimeXBT.

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February 26, 2019, 06:30:45 AM
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Prime works well. I made a withdrawal via it myself and had no problems. It feels like they're trying to manipulate the community with the help of misleading scam thread.  Roll Eyes
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