UFC 235: Jones vs. Smith Prediction and Info Thread

[mich]

Very interested in how the evenings first match will go
https://www.reddit.com/r/WMMA/comments/awcl6l/polyana_viana_vs_hannah_cifers_weighin_faceoff/
Something about 🇧🇷 women that really gets me into the fights!

[tokeweed]

Wow after all the hype on Askren, he looked like a bum on weigh in.  Lol.  His gut looks like he doesn't train or work out.  Lololol.  I hope he's ready cos Lawler is a savage.

And Smith must be thinking 'what have I gotten myself into' just about...  now. 

UFC 235 Embedded 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdgfRUMpxzE

UFC 235:  Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqGFGEmKcW4

Jon Jones (205) vs Anthony Smith (204.5)
Tyron Woodley (170) vs Kamaru Usman (169)
Robbie Lawler (170) vs Ben Askren (170.5)
Tecia Torres (115) vs Weili Zhang (116)
Cody Garbrandt (136) vs Pedro Munhoz (136)
Jeremy Stephens (146) vs Zabit Magomedsharipov (146)
Misha Cirkunov (206) vs Johnny Walker (205.5)
Cody Stamann (135.5) vs Alejandro Perez (136)
Diego Sanchez (170) vs Mickey Gall (170.5)
Edmen Shahbazyan (184.5) vs Charles Byrd (185)
Gina Mazany (135.5) vs Macy Chiasson (136)
Polyana Viana (115.5) vs Hannah Cifers (114)

[mich]

Anyone looking for Jon Jones props needs a account with Sportsbet since there are no prop odds at Nitrogen-



Jones wins by KO 1.91 sounds like good value.
Even better value when price boosted!

[tokeweed]

^  No Jones ITD...?  Like all KO, TKO or via submission altogether?  I've been waiting for Nitrogen and FJ props to come up but they still haven't the last time I checked.

[cellard]

Easiest money ever for a Jon Jones win to be honest. Antony Smith is just a filler fight to keep Jon Jones active and away from drugs and hookers, there's just no challenge for him. The reach difference is too big, the skill difference is too big. Smith only has more experience but that's all. I think he's going to get rekt and fast unless some miracle happens.

I want to see Zabit fight again, that guy is a genius. And then Woodley which is also easy money, will probably continue with his long wing streak. I would put a win on all of these 3. Other than that I wouldn't gamble to be too specific.

[bbc.reporter]

Nice card we here this coming Saturday (Sunday here in Philippines). My picks will be Jon Jones,  Tyron Woodley, Ben Askren and Cody Garbrandt. I'm still at 50/50 with Ben Askren, he may have a good run with One FC but we do not know if he will have a good chance with the fighters in UFC, not that I belittle the fighters in One FC but those who are not successful in Bellator and UFC usually signs up in One FC.

Ben Askren might not have debuted with UFC yet, but he was the undefeated welter weight champion at Bellator if you are not aware of it and he asked for a release thinking that he could join UFC but he got dumped because of an twitter exchange prior with Dana White and so he had no other options than to join One FC and he dominated them all and now he got a chance in the UFC and he started calling out everyone who talked about him in the past and the funny thing is no one is responding to his calls now.

@eaLiTy. Jeremy Stephens might defeat Zabit similar to what he did to the Korean Superboy. This is a dangerous ladder up for Zabit versus a fighter who has fought the top fighters and who also has knockout power.

I reckon Zabit should be prepared to be disappointed hehehe.

First you have to consider the location he is from, no emotions what so ever and he is the complete martial artist according to most of the experts as he is super technical on the feet as well as on the ground and yet with strikes and combinations we have not seen yet inside the cage and i really do not know who could match with him skill wise, Jeremy Stephens is a really good striker but i really doubt he could match up with Zabit.

However, Zabit has not fought anyone on a higher level in the UFC. Jeremy Stephens will be his first. Also, Tecia Torres might win versus the female chinese fighter. The same reason as Zabit and Jeremy.

[Baofeng]

Jon Jones wins by decision, no surprises here although others may have expected Smith not to last the full 5 rounds, but the guy is tough, what you can say? Usman dominated Woodley to end his title reign, Usman was so dominant that he was able to take control more than 17 minutes of a tough 25 minutes fight Woodley tried everything but Usman that night can't be denied.

[tokeweed]

^  Meh...  There was nothing spectacular in both matches.  And Askren who was supposed to be somewhat of a next attraction at 170 after Woodley was a huge disappointment.  The UFC should give Lawler another go at him.  Herb Dean made a dumb mistake stopping that match.

[Yaunfitda]

^  Meh...  There was nothing spectacular in both matches.  And Askren who was supposed to be somewhat of a next attraction at 170 after Woodley was a huge disappointment.  The UFC should give Lawler another go at him.  Herb Dean made a dumb mistake stopping that match.

Controversial decision by Herb Dean, anyways, Lawler accepted the defeat like a man, but I think it was an early stoppage by Herb.

It doesn't look that Lawler was in danger, his hand was in Ben's head so naturally he put in down and this gives the signal to Herb that somewhat Robbie was losing consciousness.

[kenzawak]

-Lionheart didn't show much heart against Jones who clearly controlled his fight. Smith looked like he didn't want to be there.

-Usman had a very impressive performance against Woodley. He showed incredible conditioning and was just better in everything. I hope we don't get the news that Woodley was sick or something because he seemed helpless right from the beginning.

-Zabit beat Stephens but it was definitely not easy. Standing up, Stephens was probably better (I had Zabit winning 2 rounds to 1).

-Munhoz won an incredible fight. I don't know how he didn't get knocked down when he and Garbrandt started trading punches. It took one final punch to end it.

-I have no idea how Lawler lost his fight. I thought he could have "destroyed" Askren after the first take down but it looked like he didn't want it. And that stoppage was of course questionable. But same thing, how did he manage to get chocked like this ? He seemed to be in control of the fight and gave his neck way too easily.
I also didn't like Askren's interview after the fight, being cocky and all. He was very close from losing and should show some more respect.

-I had a good laugh when I saw Johnny Walker dislocate his shoulder doing his celebration after his win. I don't like arrogant fighters who act like clowns in the octagon. That should teach him a lesson.

[Theb]

Like what I have said in my earlier prediction, Anthony Smith didn't have any chance against Jon Jones although I have to give Smith kudos on finishing the fight via decision which Alexander Gustafsson didn't make on UFC 232.  One of the biggest factor why Smith got outmatch on all rounds is him being not a natural light heavyweight fighter he only started in this weight class last year where he first fought Thiago Santos and loss. You can see the huge size difference in both of them even if Smith only weighs .5 grams lighter in the weigh in ceremony.

[bbc.reporter]

^  Meh...  There was nothing spectacular in both matches.  And Askren who was supposed to be somewhat of a next attraction at 170 after Woodley was a huge disappointment.  The UFC should give Lawler another go at him.  Herb Dean made a dumb mistake stopping that match.

Controversial decision by Herb Dean, anyways, Lawler accepted the defeat like a man, but I think it was an early stoppage by Herb.

It doesn't look that Lawler was in danger, his hand was in Ben's head so naturally he put in down and this gives the signal to Herb that somewhat Robbie was losing consciousness.

Agreed. However, Herb Dean saw the hand was hanging very loosely which made it appear that Robbie was unconcious. I remember Joe Rogan was also shouting he's out!

It was the wrong stoppage but I reckon Herb cannot be blamed for it.

[cellard]

Im glad I ended up not taking any bets on this one. Jon Jones did what I expected, that's to win. I didn't expect a decision, Smith is a thought mofo, Jon Jones may not have had his best night but the dude is very durable, he even took that illegal knee to the head and didn't give up. The skill and reach difference was too much for him to react unfortunately.

What shocked me was seeing Woodley being outmatched. He screwed up by being too defensive waiting for a perfect shoot that never happened.

Cody G was also disappointing. I thought this guy was going to be unstoppable after his Dominic Cruz win. Looks like Dillashaw loss streaks has put him into a losing mode. He still has time to become champion again tho, I wouldn't count him off. It was a good street fight if anything.

Zabit.. what can be said about him? He deserves to be headlining cards ASAP fighting the best. He is one of my favorite fighters ever, insanely talented.

[lemipawa]

Here is the results for UFC 235

Jon Jones Def. Anthony Smith via Unanimous Decision
Kamaru Usman Def. Tyron Woodley Unanimous Decision
Ben Askren Def. Robbie Lawler via Submission (bulldog choke)
Weili Zhang Def. Tecia Torres Unanimous Decision
Pedro Munhoz Def. Cody Garbrandt 1st Round TKO

Zabit Magomedsharipov Def. Jeremy Stephens via Unanimous Decision
Johnny Walker Def Misha Cirkunov via 1st Round TKO
Cody Stamann Def. Alejandro Perez Unanimous Decision
Diego Sanchez Def. Mickey Gall via 2nd Round TKO
Edmen Shahbazyan Def. Charles Byrd via 1st Round TKO
Macy Chiasson Def. Gina Mazany via 1st Round TKO
Hannah Cifers def. Polyana Viana via Split Decision

How about the stoppage of the fight between Ben Askren and Robbie Lawler, do you guys think referee Herb Dean called it too early?

[kenzawak]

Misha Cirkunov Def Johnny Walker via 1st Round TKO

It's the opposite actually. Johnny Walker won the fight.

[lemipawa]

Misha Cirkunov Def Johnny Walker via 1st Round TKO

It's the opposite actually. Johnny Walker won the fight.

Thanks for reading my post and correcting me on that. I edited my post. Cheers!

[bbc.reporter]

It appears that Dana will have numerous exciting storyboards for the welterweight division after Tyron's loss hehehe.

I speculate storyboards for Ben Askren, Wonderboy, Darren Till and Santiago Ponzinibbio to fight for a championship within 2 years.

Dana has also already declared that Colby Colvington will be Kamaru's next fight.

[btc_angela]

It appears that Dana will have numerous exciting storyboards for the welterweight division after Tyron's loss hehehe.

I speculate storyboards for Ben Askren, Wonderboy, Darren Till and Santiago Ponzinibbio to fight for a championship within 2 years.

Dana has also already declared that Colby Colvington will be Kamaru's next fight.

Well Askren has been calling Darren Till prior to his win so I guess Dana can make that storyboard. Ok so its gonna be Colvington vs Usman, they already hype the fight here, https://www.mmamania.com/2019/3/3/18249223/watch-kamaru-usman-and-colby-covington-get-into-a-casino-scuffle-after-ufc-235

[TopTort777]

It appears that Dana will have numerous exciting storyboards for the welterweight division after Tyron's loss hehehe.

I speculate storyboards for Ben Askren, Wonderboy, Darren Till and Santiago Ponzinibbio to fight for a championship within 2 years.

Dana has also already declared that Colby Colvington will be Kamaru's next fight.

Well Askren has been calling Darren Till prior to his win so I guess Dana can make that storyboard. Ok so its gonna be Colvington vs Usman, they already hype the fight here, https://www.mmamania.com/2019/3/3/18249223/watch-kamaru-usman-and-colby-covington-get-into-a-casino-scuffle-after-ufc-235

Colvington started to hype the fight to early. Usmas just got the belt and won the fight few days ago. According to wiki stats, title fights have 6month (or more) gaps. So I guess we wont see Usmas vs Colvington no sooner than 6months. During half a year this hype will be forgotten...


 

[NavI_027]

I've watched these fights a while ago (I know, it's late already) and get shocked on the results except to Bones' fight.

Jon Jones Def. Anthony Smith via Unanimous Decision

I thought that Smith can fight toe to toe with Jones but that'd not what I saw. I saw a versatile Jones this time where he uses knee, body kicks, leg kicks and ground skills. Just a lucky day for him that he doesn't get disqualified after the illegal knee incident. It's supposed to be his 2nd disqualification loss if ever, lol.

Kamaru Usman Def. Tyron Woodley Unanimous Decision

The result of this is a surprising one. I can't believe that Usman dominated Woodley all 5 rounds. I noticed that Woodley became not so aggressive on this fight, why is that?

How about the stoppage of the fight between Ben Askren and Robbie Lawler, do you guys think referee Herb Dean called it too early?

For me, the referee did a good call for that. He saw that Lawler  already put his hand down and seems unconscious as well so it's understandable if he decided to stop the fight.

I'm just disappointed because Lawler did a great job in the first rounds until a sudden shift happens. Well, Askren is really a good submissioner even his times on ONE FC, props to him .