Another question about a bitcoin wallet

[coinlocket$]

While I got a good explanation on another kind of wallet here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5107298.msg49636977#msg49636977

It's time to another explanation: how to know if all of these addresses of this wallet owned by the same person?

https://www.blockchain.com/it/btc/address/19axV1zZnJQwYapAovCCJEcm3CmwAwrP3Y

the addresses can be found here: http://loyce.club/other/survey-entries.html

They are on this huge (gambling?) wallet, https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00000014ea8b260f/addresses idk what wallet it is

I think a good way to know it is back drawing transactions of these address and see if they had found from the survey if all these addresses got the transaction with the survey payment and a new transaction with the input to the same new address we can consider them multi account/cheating (?).



I can spot them out if is a case of cheating.

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[shasan]

I think a good way to know it is back drawing transactions of these address and see if they had found from the survey if all these addresses got the transaction with the survey payment and a new transaction with the input to the same new address we can consider them multi account/cheating (?)

I do not think so. if you take payment to an exchange address and other people take payment on the same address exchange on the same transaction then I think they both will be transformed to the same new address. For example, you may create 3 coinbase account and create 3 BTC wallet id each from one account. And send BTC to all those addresses at the same time. Then all will be transferred to a new same address.

[Quickseller]

The wallet you are asking about belongs to a business that holds bitcoin (possibly temporally) on behalf of their customers.  

It may be an exchange, gambling site, a service similar to BitPay, or a service similar to ShapeShift.

If there is a comma in the number of addresses, the "wallet" almost certainly does not belong to a single person. There are two commas in this case.

[coinlocket$]

The wallet you are asking about belongs to a business that holds bitcoin (possibly temporally) on behalf of their customers.  

It may be an exchange, gambling site, a service similar to BitPay, or a service similar to ShapeShift.

If there is a comma in the number of addresses, the "wallet" almost certainly does not belong to a single person. There are two commas in this case.

Yes from here my question is born

On this wallet, we have a lot of transactions to this address,

https://www.blockchain.com/it/btc/address/19axV1zZnJQwYapAovCCJEcm3CmwAwrP3Y

and if we look to this address's transactions most of the address has one or few transactions from the hampuz survey.

How can we explain this?

Can this be random? 80+ addresses from the survey to the same address on the same website?

[shasan]

The wallet you are asking about belongs to a business that holds bitcoin (possibly temporally) on behalf of their customers.  

It may be an exchange, gambling site, a service similar to BitPay, or a service similar to ShapeShift.

If there is a comma in the number of addresses, the "wallet" almost certainly does not belong to a single person. There are two commas in this case.

Yes from here my question is born

On this wallet, we have a lot of transactions to this address,

https://www.blockchain.com/it/btc/address/19axV1zZnJQwYapAovCCJEcm3CmwAwrP3Y

and if we look to this address's transactions most of the address has one or few transactions from the hampuz survey.

How can we explain this?

Can this be random? 80+ addresses from the survey to the same address on the same website?

For these address, there might have few alts account. Almost all the accounts are newbie/jr member and they are newborn account or take part on bounty campaign where they may get payment on erc 20 wallet so there might have a chance to use it for an only few transactions. I am not sure, I just guess it.

[Avirunes]

-snip-

Regarding the transaction I think it was initiated by the service and not by the abuser.

It is very likely though that someone used those addresses from the service to abuse the survey but it is also possible that some individual who have no connection with them used it and while tagging you might tag someone who is innocent.


I've gone through this wallet many times and there are some more which are owned by services. I have seen such wallet being given identifier starting with "00" or "000's" by Walletexplorer. For instance take this for example: In this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111866.0) crairezx20 asks for loan with 3LttHZc3jUcgdeisEHxwDPkxJj8y81MU49 which he claims to be Coins.ph address which is given wallet identifier: 00000dd86b2f6402 by the Walletexplorer.

[shasan]

-snip-

Regarding the transaction I think it was initiated by the service and not by the abuser.

It is very likely though that someone used those addresses from the service to abuse the survey but it is also possible that some individual who have no connection with them used it and while tagging you might tag someone who is innocent.


I've gone through this wallet many times and there are some more which are owned by services. I have seen such wallet being given identifier starting with "00" or "000's" by Walletexplorer. For instance take this for example: In this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111866.0) crairezx20 asks for loan with 3LttHZc3jUcgdeisEHxwDPkxJj8y81MU49 which he claims to be Coins.ph address which is given wallet identifier: 00000dd86b2f6402 by the Walletexplorer.

I think if it was service then there should have at least 10000 address. But here we can see only 66. And for service multi-account can be found on same transaction id. But in this case, only a few addresses used more than one and rest used only a single times. So, there is a chance 99.95% that they are altered account.

[Avirunes]

-snip-

Regarding the transaction I think it was initiated by the service and not by the abuser.

It is very likely though that someone used those addresses from the service to abuse the survey but it is also possible that some individual who have no connection with them used it and while tagging you might tag someone who is innocent.


I've gone through this wallet many times and there are some more which are owned by services. I have seen such wallet being given identifier starting with "00" or "000's" by Walletexplorer. For instance take this for example: In this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111866.0) crairezx20 asks for loan with 3LttHZc3jUcgdeisEHxwDPkxJj8y81MU49 which he claims to be Coins.ph address which is given wallet identifier: 00000dd86b2f6402 by the Walletexplorer.

I think if it was service then there should have at least 10000 address. But here we can see only 66. And for service multi-account can be found on same transaction id. But in this case, only a few addresses used more than one and rest used only a single times. So, there is a chance 99.95% that they are altered account.

Well I guess I forgot to add *sometimes* to that post  . It is better if you check through no. of addresses to come to a point: whether it is a service wallet or not.

But here we can see only 66

I assume you are talking about this-https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116077.0 . Yes that is indeed a personal wallet as I have never seen any service allowing users to sign a message : "nydiacaskey01 signing a message in Stake your Bitcoin address here"

looks like this is a good idea, please quote my address for future reference

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Today is the 7th of August year 2015 and im nydiacaskey01
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
16nafRzMrzmt7keav9ahKBCd9c2n2a2CVt
Hy8aS+WgvGLTROBYiue/iFOjjuMSi7z36VpBH9uHJlnrU9qtGTV+go/PdhXFGlm6YDaePNfFgWKD1o2YFSBqb4w=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Quoted: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg12076693#msg12076693
Archived: http://archive.is/hxhzD#selection-2123.0-2123.34

[shasan]

I assume you are talking about

Sorry, there were two similar posts. This topics addresses are for service (it is sure). Actually, I was talking about https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116077 this topic where all id used by alter accounts.