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February 27, 2019, 04:48:12 PM
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Man, this is by far the worst suggestion I have ever seen in my entire life. Enron looks like a innocent company compared to the suggestions like these. You can't just force the market upside because as soon as you let it go the price will be in freefall again.

The reason why we are in a decentralized world is to get rid of these kinds of stuff, let the price be whatever it is and do not encourage people to make it higher or do not discourage people to make it lower, just let the people decide what they want without anything other than free market. That way we can at least know the real price of bitcoin because there is no elements that would tamper with the price so what you see is what you get. Bitcoin is as valuable as people think it is, I love it that way and I wouldn't want it to change at all.
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February 27, 2019, 05:33:08 PM
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If we want to raise the price of bitcoin we need to make massive adoption so that the demand will increase automatically also BTC should come up with some unique ideas where the public should rely to buy more apart from this big investors need to jump in BTC to pump the value. If things goes welll and good I am sure the price of bitcoin will gear up for sure.

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February 27, 2019, 05:44:32 PM
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everyone wants bitcoin to rise and there are also many ways from everyone at this world, except that the implementation is very difficult which can apply only big people and some classy product builders or big CEO who can grow prices in the market. expand the image to the public through news on television media or other media that can embrace everyone to increase demand mate

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February 28, 2019, 02:34:38 AM
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The reason why we are in a decentralized world is to get rid of these kinds of stuff, let the price be whatever it is and do not encourage people to make it higher or do not discourage people to make it lower, just let the people decide what they want without anything other than free market. That way we can at least know the real price of bitcoin because there is no elements that would tamper with the price so what you see is what you get. Bitcoin is as valuable as people think it is, I love it that way and I wouldn't want it to change at all.

The very idea of a free market though, is that everyone is free to do what they want, including manipulate lol. This is why people have been saying that Bitcoin is being manipulated for the longest time, even before actual evidence has surfaced. The completely decentralized model we have right now makes the market especially vulnerable, and the only way to really stop it (or realistically speaking, just slow it down) is for a central entity to come in and penalize shady actors. I understand that most people in the market want it to be organic, but enforcing that comes with the price of losing freedom.

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February 28, 2019, 04:39:07 AM
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If we want to raise the price of bitcoin we need to make massive adoption so that the demand will increase automatically also BTC should come up with some unique ideas where the public should rely to buy more apart from this big investors need to jump in BTC to pump the value. If things goes welll and good I am sure the price of bitcoin will gear up for sure.

It will happen soon, don't worry about that Grin

I am sure that there will be a massive people who come into bitcoin/cryptocurrency because they realize that bitcoin/cryptocurrency is a new way to solve they're financial especially for making a transaction. Once there is an increase in the price like in 2017-2018, people will amazed and see about bitcoin power, and they will think that bitcoin is not a scam and they will search more about bitcoin. Besides that, I think we read some news about the adoption of bitcoin in the online payment, and some websites are already using bitcoin as the other payment, and of course, it helps the process of adoption in online payment.

Soon, there will be many more online stores will using bitcoin as the payment too and when it happens, bitcoin can compete with the other online payment processor.

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February 28, 2019, 05:49:05 AM
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The reason why we are in a decentralized world is to get rid of these kinds of stuff, let the price be whatever it is and do not encourage people to make it higher or do not discourage people to make it lower, just let the people decide what they want without anything other than free market. That way we can at least know the real price of bitcoin because there is no elements that would tamper with the price so what you see is what you get. Bitcoin is as valuable as people think it is, I love it that way and I wouldn't want it to change at all.

The very idea of a free market though, is that everyone is free to do what they want, including manipulate lol. This is why people have been saying that Bitcoin is being manipulated for the longest time, even before actual evidence has surfaced. The completely decentralized model we have right now makes the market especially vulnerable, and the only way to really stop it (or realistically speaking, just slow it down) is for a central entity to come in and penalize shady actors. I understand that most people in the market want it to be organic, but enforcing that comes with the price of losing freedom.

it sets up a fundamentally dangerous situation though, like what we're seeing at bitfinex. i'd be very wary of keeping any funds there right now, or in USDT. due to the launch of regulated futures markets in the USA, the feds now see offshore spot exchanges as being under their jurisdiction. that's why the CFTC has been investigating bitfinex and tether re market manipulation for more than a year now, and more recently the DOJ (the criminal enforcement arm) has joined the investigation. that's some scary shit. i keep expecting to see a FBI takedown page at bitfinex.com.

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February 28, 2019, 05:58:59 AM
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The reason why we are in a decentralized world is to get rid of these kinds of stuff, let the price be whatever it is and do not encourage people to make it higher or do not discourage people to make it lower, just let the people decide what they want without anything other than free market. That way we can at least know the real price of bitcoin because there is no elements that would tamper with the price so what you see is what you get. Bitcoin is as valuable as people think it is, I love it that way and I wouldn't want it to change at all.

The very idea of a free market though, is that everyone is free to do what they want, including manipulate lol. This is why people have been saying that Bitcoin is being manipulated for the longest time, even before actual evidence has surfaced. The completely decentralized model we have right now makes the market especially vulnerable, and the only way to really stop it (or realistically speaking, just slow it down) is for a central entity to come in and penalize shady actors. I understand that most people in the market want it to be organic, but enforcing that comes with the price of losing freedom.

it sets up a fundamentally dangerous situation though, like what we're seeing at bitfinex. i'd be very wary of keeping any funds there right now, or in USDT. due to the launch of regulated futures markets in the USA, the feds now see offshore spot exchanges as being under their jurisdiction. that's why the CFTC has been investigating bitfinex and tether re market manipulation for more than a year now, and more recently the DOJ (the criminal enforcement arm) has joined the investigation. that's some scary shit. i keep expecting to see a FBI takedown page at bitfinex.com

Are you deliberately spreading FUD?

As it looks this way exactly. More specifically, why the American regulating bodies now see foreign cryptocurrency exchanges as under their jurisdiction? Bitfinex is not a US exchange, and as far as I know, they don't allow to trade US citizens there. The CFTC has been looking into this exchange since times immemorial, they even fined Bitfinex a few years ago, and what does it have to do with the launch of regulated futures? Care to explain yourself?

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February 28, 2019, 06:37:17 AM
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More nations have to give green signal for crypto currency especially the most populated countries they should come forward and make this visible to the public, yes BTC has already been a hot topic in the world for its massive growth in 2017. As much as the demand and supply increases the value of BTC will automatically Increase.

If couple of big countries give the green signal and legalises the crypto thus would be the best way that any market would like to have . Market will start rising very quickly and can even rise couple of thousands dollars in a day.

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February 28, 2019, 08:07:47 AM
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it sets up a fundamentally dangerous situation though, like what we're seeing at bitfinex. i'd be very wary of keeping any funds there right now, or in USDT. due to the launch of regulated futures markets in the USA, the feds now see offshore spot exchanges as being under their jurisdiction. that's why the CFTC has been investigating bitfinex and tether re market manipulation for more than a year now, and more recently the DOJ (the criminal enforcement arm) has joined the investigation. that's some scary shit. i keep expecting to see a FBI takedown page at bitfinex.com.

I would like to think that the investigation is more about Tether itself and less about Bitcoin manipulation, because there's no reason for them to be concerned about it. I see where you're coming from though, as I could easily see them using regulated markets as an excuse. It could set a terrifying precedent.

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February 28, 2019, 09:30:35 AM
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If we want to raise the price of bitcoin we need to make massive adoption so that the demand will increase automatically also BTC should come up with some unique ideas where the public should rely to buy more apart from this big investors need to jump in BTC to pump the value. If things goes welll and good I am sure the price of bitcoin will gear up for sure.

I get your point but apart from massive adoption, there should also be a limitation from the exchanges. The exchange sure has a part to play in constant dump of Bitcoin. Everyday more than ten exchanges pops up but nobody is limiting them on the actions they are taking.
I believe a regulations of how Bitcoin are sold per day should be a great help.
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February 28, 2019, 12:00:56 PM
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I don't think anyone can manipulate the price of bitcoin anymore, i can say that for coins with low volumes, bitcoin has gotten a lot of volume and also high price so in order for you to manipulate the market, you have to own billions of dollars and you can't just manipulate the rate in just one exchange but have to do that in 75% of the exchanges available for the manipulation to be effective.

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February 28, 2019, 12:23:12 PM
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More nations have to give green signal for crypto currency especially the most populated countries they should come forward and make this visible to the public, yes BTC has already been a hot topic in the world for its massive growth in 2017. As much as the demand and supply increases the value of BTC will automatically Increase.

If couple of big countries give the green signal and legalises the crypto thus would be the best way that any market would like to have . Market will start rising very quickly and can even rise couple of thousands dollars in a day.
Yes, we need those regulations so we can start the bull again. There are so many reasons for bitcoin to rise, but we have to wait for the right time because if we force the market to pump, its more likely a manipulations and later on it will just dump again so let’s wait for the real pump.
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February 28, 2019, 12:33:02 PM
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Possibly with government regulation, the value of bitcoin will be able to rise, for this case, it requires a better time and approach so that crypto can develop well in every country. We will wait for positive things to happen so that market manipulation does not occur.
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February 28, 2019, 04:11:17 PM
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Possibly with government regulation, the value of bitcoin will be able to rise, for this case, it requires a better time and approach so that crypto can develop well in every country. We will wait for positive things to happen so that market manipulation does not occur.

That's one of the major things that i'm lookingat as well for us to get to the moon like many here are hoping for. Without government support, i don't there there'll be that much confidence from big time investors to enter the market. We'll be in a cycle of seasonal bear and bull market where the former would be more prominent than the latter.

 
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March 06, 2019, 09:16:42 PM
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If the market is to work based on your submission above then it will be that the whole crypto currency market is control by some group of exchange companies which I don't believe it should be. The crypto currency market work based on the forces of demand and supply and the way you submitted above.
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March 06, 2019, 09:30:20 PM
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Possibly with government regulation, the value of bitcoin will be able to rise, for this case, it requires a better time and approach so that crypto can develop well in every country. We will wait for positive things to happen so that market manipulation does not occur.
Well you have a good point, and in addition to your point I will say there should increase in the transaction fee so that people will be discurage to sell more frequently, there should be mass adoption of crypto currency so that the level of market volatility will be reduce that will encourage more adoption.
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If the market is to work based on your submission above then it will be that the whole crypto currency market is control by some group of exchange companies which I don't believe it should be. The crypto currency market work based on the forces of demand and supply and the way you submitted above.

I have also the slight feeling of believing that the market is being manipulated by the big players, and the biggest one would be these exchanges, since they are one of those who possess large amount of cryptocurrency. Although, you are correct about cryptocurrecy market is based on supply and demand.
Lets just be patient in the current market condition today, this will never last for long because we have a lot of good signs thats coming for Bitcoin to rise .

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March 06, 2019, 11:55:20 PM
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If the market is to work based on your submission above then it will be that the whole crypto currency market is control by some group of exchange companies which I don't believe it should be. The crypto currency market work based on the forces of demand and supply and the way you submitted above.

I have also the slight feeling of believing that the market is being manipulated by the big players, and the biggest one would be these exchanges, since they are one of those who possess large amount of cryptocurrency. Although, you are correct about cryptocurrecy market is based on supply and demand.
Lets just be patient in the current market condition today, this will never last for long because we have a lot of good signs thats coming for Bitcoin to rise .
indeed transaction costs are an important consideration when you trade, because if you make a sale with a small price range it will only make you not get profit even only get a loss, use a long-term method so you can get profits and not make too many sales coin so that your assets do not run out only at transaction fees

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March 07, 2019, 12:11:43 AM
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If the market is to work based on your submission above then it will be that the whole crypto currency market is control by some group of exchange companies which I don't believe it should be. The crypto currency market work based on the forces of demand and supply and the way you submitted above.

I have also the slight feeling of believing that the market is being manipulated by the big players, and the biggest one would be these exchanges, since they are one of those who possess large amount of cryptocurrency. Although, you are correct about cryptocurrecy market is based on supply and demand.
Lets just be patient in the current market condition today, this will never last for long because we have a lot of good signs thats coming for Bitcoin to rise .
Speculation is the root of all evil. Big institutions make manipulative trades in order to sell them after successfully completing their plan. Bitcoin's price is not simple to manipulate due to less large wallets that have a big percentage of all bitcoins.

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March 07, 2019, 12:40:31 AM
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Speculation is the root of all evil. Big institutions make manipulative trades in order to sell them after successfully completing their plan. Bitcoin's price is not simple to manipulate due to less large wallets that have a big percentage of all bitcoins.

whats the connection of speculation and manipulation ?  anyway , speculation is not the root of all evil but money is  .

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Bitcoin's price is not simple to manipulate due to less large wallets that have a big percentage of all bitcoins.

you got a point . bitcoin price is not simple to manipulate compare to altcoins because bitcoin is heavier ( expensive ) while alts are lighter ( inexpensive ) but its no impossible for a whale to manipulate bitcoin because whales are powerful people  ,they are rich  .then can afford to buy boat loads of bitcoin  .
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