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February 25, 2019, 05:58:14 PM
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Ron Paul includes some video clips in his interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rcXbNIOomQ

This was pretty predictable, as the US warmongers are up to their old tricks of creating false flags to justify military intervention. We've seen it so many times now, that people don't believe it any more, and it's so easy to post videos of the truth, that it's becoming harder to make the lies convincing.

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February 26, 2019, 12:32:29 PM
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Ron Paul includes some video clips in his interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rcXbNIOomQ

This was pretty predictable, as the US warmongers are up to their old tricks of creating false flags to justify military intervention. We've seen it so many times now, that people don't believe it any more, and it's so easy to post videos of the truth, that it's becoming harder to make the lies convincing.
I feel sorry for what is happening in Venezuela ... and there will be new ways of war. It is unfortunate that humanitarian aid is used as a pretext for war. On the other hand, there are people who need this assistance. I hope the situation calms down.
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February 26, 2019, 12:58:05 PM
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They don't need this so-called aid and weapons that the US is trying to force on them to create an "incident". What they need is the money that sanctions are preventing them from earning. They are losing billions, and the US is making a big deal out of trying to force a few million on them.

The US needs to spend the money on repairing bridges at home, and building their own economy. While they are at it, they could nationalise the Federal Reserve and save US taxpayers from having to fund the banking warmongers. Abraham Lincoln tried it when he created the greenback. lets go back to that idea.

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February 26, 2019, 03:49:10 PM
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This is ridiculous propaganda.

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February 26, 2019, 03:52:47 PM
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This is ridiculous propaganda.

Do you  mean the bit about the US up to its usual tricks of spreading false information to take military action to force regime change?

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February 28, 2019, 02:21:25 AM
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This is ridiculous propaganda.
Do you  mean the bit about the US up to its usual tricks of spreading false information to take military action to force regime change?
The trucks were burnt by Maduro supporters ("colectivos") assisting the "police" who ambushed the trucks and shot against unarmed civilians, as i explained with detail in the Venezuela thread. Their attempt of damage control after the justified international outrage failed miserably, as shown in the UN assembly. The Maduro regime is actually now entering the path of "crimes against humanity" so don't be surprised if he and his close officials end trialed in The Hague International Court of Justice.

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February 28, 2019, 03:14:45 PM
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Well it now seems that the aid trucks contained nails and wire for barricade building. Obviously the US thinks the Venezuelan people needed iron rations. Smiley

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February 28, 2019, 07:05:33 PM
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Well it now seems that the aid trucks contained nails and wire for barricade building. Obviously the US thinks the Venezuelan people needed iron rations. Smiley
OK lets play devils advocate. Iif you wanted to aid the civilians resist, why would you send them things they already have? Nails and wire? Seriously? And it is us who believe media lies now? whose media, Maduro's?

At least 4 Presidents of sovereign states and the OAS secretary inspected the boxes, they had medicine and dehydrated food rations. To even suggest otherwise means you are accusing at least 4 countries of committing crimes against humanity, "aiding terrorists" if you buy Maduro's language...

If you take a look at the protests of 2014 and 2017, the least the resistance would need is nails and wire to block streets, they are experts building barricades that with whatever they find. Now try fighting unarmed against armed guards using armored trucks with nothing but rocks and bottles, perhaps the occasional molotov or burning tire, and see how well it goes. Did you ever fought against your National Guard?

Starting April 2017 you can see PLENTY of footage on youtube of the street fights of civilians vs state forces. That year alone 150+ civilians were killed in those clashes, some of the killings were captured llve on video. But nobody cares, and the perpetrators are still "serving", the dead can't talk.

Now let me explain something about the State forces. They are "armed" with "anti-demonstration" equipment, meaning, shotguns which are supposed to have rubber pellets, but they tend to remove the rubber and replace it with glass marbles or nails; and tear gas cans, which are meant to be shoot up in an arc to reach the demonstrators, not as an oversized bullet, like they do here... And, though prohibited, many times they use pistols and sometimes even rifles. They also love doing torture, often capturing people and putting it inside an enclosed truck with a triggered tear gas can. There even are worse practices i would refrain from mentioning here, but the evidence is very well documented, a part was exposed in the OAS report last year.

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March 01, 2019, 07:03:16 AM
Last edit: March 01, 2019, 07:21:12 AM by Jet Cash
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Why didn't the US send in the aid via the normal routes instead of trying to force it in over a bridge that had never been opened to politicise the event.

Why did Richard Branson ( The British globalist traitor ) lie about his stupid pop concert to maximise the publicity?

If the US is so concerned about human aid, why isn't it doing something about the Yemen, Columbia and other countries with far worse problems than Venezuela?

Why isn't the US spending money to help reduce the poverty and destitution in the US? It is now being reported as worse than the conditions in Venezuela.

If the US really why wants to help Venezuela, why have they imposed draconian sanctions on the country?

The US is becoming a communist state run by a politbureau appointed by the Rothschild/Vatican/British Crown elite, and they are becoming so arrogant that their actions are transparent. Brexit is one example, and appointing a graduate of the George Washington school for regime change to orchestrate the annexation of Venezuela is another.

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March 01, 2019, 12:45:04 PM
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Why didn't the US send in the aid via the normal routes instead of trying to force it in over a bridge that had never been opened to politicise the event.

Why did Richard Branson ( The British globalist traitor ) lie about his stupid pop concert to maximise the publicity?

If the US is so concerned about human aid, why isn't it doing something about the Yemen, Columbia and other countries with far worse problems than Venezuela?

Why isn't the US spending money to help reduce the poverty and destitution in the US? It is now being reported as worse than the conditions in Venezuela.

If the US really why wants to help Venezuela, why have they imposed draconian sanctions on the country?

The US is becoming a communist state run by a politbureau appointed by the Rothschild/Vatican/British Crown elite, and they are becoming so arrogant that their actions are transparent. Brexit is one example, and appointing a graduate of the George Washington school for regime change to orchestrate the annexation of Venezuela is another.

The US, the EU, and various other countries (ie. Canada) have been trying to send the aid "via normal routes", even back when they still recognized Maduro (before Jan 10 2019). He always rejected it on absurd claims. This has been going for 2 or 3 years... Now that Maduro is no longer recognized, and the new President Interim Guaidó officially requested the aid, they have been trying to deliver it. I has been piling near the borders for months.

Whatever Richard Branson does, its his private business. It doesn't change the official position of countries or the needs of the people of Venezuela. If private entities want to raise funds to donate food or medicine, Why are we going to reject it? This is the country where people are supposed to live with under 10 USD a month, somehow...

I don't know about Yemen, but Colombia is in a far, FAR better situation that Venezuela. In Colombia the average wage is 250 USD, just like Venezuela had 10 years ago. Colombia's main problem was the leftist guerrillas (and later rightist paramilitary, which were anti-guerrilla's guerrilla). For the most part that problem is now solved, only very few groups remain, but it isn't like 10, 20 or 30 years ago where they controlled vast areas. The previous Colombian administrations, with the military aid of USA, reduced the guerrillas, and a peace treaty with the help of Cuba demobilized the majority the last administration. In fact some have moved to Venezuela... Colombia also accepts aid, being an US partner you can raise funds and deliver aid without anyone making a fuzz (ie. burning it), perhaps that's why you don't see it in the news... Currently Colombia's current crisis has to do with nearly a million Venezuelans flooding in, thanks to Maduro's "socialist" policies and rampant crime.

Why doesn't the US "spend money to reduce poverty"? I leave that to you. Perhaps you should think more in ways to increase wealth rather than reduce it...

The sanctions, as i have told countless times, do not target Venezuela as a whole. The sanctions go against specific individuals, who should not be handling stolen Venezuelan assets and money anyway. These sanctions are very well deserved, and in my opinion those people should be arrested and imprisoned anywhere they go in the world. They are criminals, as simple as that.

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March 01, 2019, 04:36:24 PM
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I don't think your statement is completely accurate, but leaving that aside, one only has to look at Libya to see what happens when the US send "humanitarian aid".

Venezuela has the largest reserves of heavy oil in the world, and the largest heavy oil refinery is owned by the Koch family ( who are part of the group that really rules the world ). That is why their tame senator is getting involved. When Maduro was elected, numerous countries checked the results, and stated that it was fair, and not subject to corruption, Guaido now has no claim on the country, and the US is losing world credibility by by insisting that he should be supported by military action.

Whatever you may think of Maduro, US sanctions to cripple the country are not going to help anyone. Least of all the US, and the US can't even afford to pay the interest on its debts. How much more will they have to borrow to continue with these destructive wars that allow China and Russia to harvest their export customers, and the providers of resources they need.

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March 06, 2019, 03:55:14 AM
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I don't think your statement is completely accurate, but leaving that aside, one only has to look at Libya to see what happens when the US send "humanitarian aid".

Venezuela has the largest reserves of heavy oil in the world, and the largest heavy oil refinery is owned by the Koch family ( who are part of the group that really rules the world ). That is why their tame senator is getting involved. When Maduro was elected, numerous countries checked the results, and stated that it was fair, and not subject to corruption, Guaido now has no claim on the country, and the US is losing world credibility by by insisting that he should be supported by military action.

Whatever you may think of Maduro, US sanctions to cripple the country are not going to help anyone. Least of all the US, and the US can't even afford to pay the interest on its debts. How much more will they have to borrow to continue with these destructive wars that allow China and Russia to harvest their export customers, and the providers of resources they need.

The third largest is in Venezuela and belongs to state oil PDVSA, but Maduro stopped maintaining it and has almost shutdown entirely, which is why they decided to burn even more money by importing lighter crude oil, gasoline and derivatives instead of fixing the refinery complex and put it to work like it used to 20 years ago. This complex used to produce all the gasoline back when things were managed correctly.

What is currently going on in Venezuela is completely different to what you think, but that is good, because the likes of you (socialists) need to be fooled so this can properly end. There is not going to be a military "invasion", yet Maduro and his cronies will go (preferably in chains). You will see, it is the will of the majority of the people, not "an American puppet backed by CIA".

If America helps because they have something to gain, then so be it. It is the price to pay for letting socialists in power in the first place. Once the economy recovers it won't matter. While we keep the hunger and misery provoked by Maduro's usurping rule, nothing will change. In the end its Venezuela that decided Maduro has to go, not you, not Trump, not the Koch family, even if they may benefit from it. And that detail you don't seem to get it, but that is fine. In fact its better, keep wasting time in those political fiction scenarios, Illuminati, reptilians and all that nonsense, while we go back to a free market economy and the rule of law.

I'll tell you later if drones, marines or aliens came to take Maduro away, either way he (and his cronies) have to go.

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March 06, 2019, 04:18:08 AM
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This is ridiculous propaganda.

I mean at this point, I don't even know why we're surprised about this sort of action from Jet Cash. He's someone who thinks that the policy of Venezuela are successful, and would rather have them present in the United States than the policies which are currently present. Now don't get me wrong, I do understand that the policy of the US does have its faults -- but there is no way that this compares to the horrible policy that is the socialist country of Venezuela.

There's no way in my mind that I can see eye to eye with someone who calls for and I quote below

Maybe it is time for Venezuela to invade America to force regime change. That is obviously an unreasonable and eccentric comment, but please stop and reflect on the possibility of a sliver of an underlying benefit in the action.

America isn't forcing a regime change in Venezuela, and Guaido isn't an illegitimate President. Maduro is an illegitimate President that shouldn't be allowed to be in office. He has stacked his legislative and judicial bodies (WHICH ARE SUPPOSED TO BE CHECKS ON HIS POWER) with his own cronies from his party.

He should be removed by his own people, I see no issue with the US attempting to give the legitimate President of Venezuela aid that the people so desperately need.




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