Community opinion on Signature campaign spreadsheets

[mirakal]

I will agree that spreadsheet should be public.
There's nothing wrong with showing it on public and this will show some transparency, you know when things go wrong like the manager will scam the members, at least we have some proof to see when participants will seek for help from the community.

Note : The spreadsheet that OP posted is for the first campaign, I would love to see the new one since I believe we have more spammers in this new campaign.

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[asche]

I just discovered this poll.

My position on that is cristal. All blockchains are basically advocating one thing in common, transparency. It should be the same here. Only way to be transparent is to keep the sheet public for everyone to see.

It adds another layer of governance (by forum users interested in it) and in the end it is just compilation of data that is already public.

[RivAngE]

I just discovered this poll.

My position on that is cristal. All blockchains are basically advocating one thing in common, transparency. It should be the same here. Only way to be transparent is to keep the sheet public for everyone to see.

It adds another layer of governance (by forum users interested in it) and in the end it is just compilation of data that is already public.

You mean Grincoin is not a blockchain?
I'm just joking, I understood your point and I'm of the same opinion.

When there's no real reason to not have the spreadsheets publicly available, the default should be to provide them. Even more so when hiding them can raise questions as to the credibility of the campaign.

Imagine a campaign which is supposingly running but in truth there are no participants. Yet the manager asks for people to apply and wear their signatures while waiting to be accepted. Then they delay to reply and they get free advertisement without ever accepting anyone!

[HCP]

My position on that is cristal. All blockchains are basically advocating one thing in common, transparency. It should be the same here. Only way to be transparent is to keep the sheet public for everyone to see.

What about Monero? or any of the other privacy based "blockchains"? Granted Privacy =/= Transparency, but still... they don't "transparently" identify participants... neither does Bitcoin for that matter, being pseudo-anonymous.

So, would you be happy with spreadsheets that redacted all "user identifiable" information?

[sclmte]

I voted also YES, the spreadsheet would be better displayed in everyone in the public way, for me it would be easier for me to know if it is in the public spreadsheet and here we can find the right payment rewards and also we'll see spammers because here we will not find it difficult to find our proper names in the spreadsheet if we accept or not, so an open spreadsheet in a public is easier and better.

[FontSeli]

I think this is the right of every bounty manager. He can decide for himself whether to make the spreadsheet public or not. If this does not suit the participants, then they may refuse to participate in this bounty campaign.
If participants distribute spam, you can complain to the moderator of the corresponding branches.
Cryptocurrencies were created to give people more freedom. And it is not right to equate all under the same standards of someone invented.

[asche]

What about Monero? or any of the other privacy based "blockchains"? Granted Privacy =/= Transparency, but still... they don't "transparently" identify participants... neither does Bitcoin for that matter, being pseudo-anonymous.

So, would you be happy with spreadsheets that redacted all "user identifiable" information?

Not engaging in playing dumb & dumber with you. I believe you understood my point.

Also privacy is already guaranteed since your forum alias =/= your personal information.

[HCP]

It seems I may have been too obtuse with my point...

In my opinion, "Cryptocurrency" more about freedom... and what a number of users here are advocating is taking away freedom of choice from managers/campaigns. For instance, what happens if a bounty manager chooses to keep all the records offline in a notebook? Are you now saying that all managers must use and publish a spreadsheet to manage a campaign?

In the general clamour for "transparency" and "openness"... it seems that no-one cares for the freedom of managers.

Don't get me wrong, I'm just playing devil's advocate here... I personally prefer if a manger would use a spreadsheet for most of the reasons that have been listed in this thread... however, I do not advocate for this being forced upon managers if they do not want to do so.

As I stated earlier... I believe that managers should be free to run their campaigns as they see fit and/or have negotiated with the project/business... if users don't agree with the methodology, then don't subscribe to the campaign.

[asche]

In my opinion, "Cryptocurrency" more about freedom... and what a number of users here are advocating is taking away freedom of choice from managers/campaigns. For instance, what happens if a bounty manager chooses to keep all the records offline in a notebook? Are you now saying that all managers must use and publish a spreadsheet to manage a campaign?

Ones freedom stops where the freedom of other starts. In this case the freedom of the whole community.

Don't get me wrong, I'm just playing devil's advocate here... I personally prefer if a manger would use a spreadsheet for most of the reasons that have been listed in this thread... however, I do not advocate for this being forced upon managers if they do not want to do so.

That's what I thought

[coinlocket$]

As I stated earlier... I believe that managers should be free to run their campaigns as they see fit and/or have negotiated with the project/business... if users don't agree with the methodology, then don't subscribe to the campaign.

Yes this is a valid point but if spreadsheet are hidden how you can spot abusers?

Hidden spreadsheet can be a big exploit for old members with more than one account and IS a big exploit for old rings of high rank accounts.

A spreadsheet profs nothing but is a valid point where to start the investigation, since we have not a "alarm" for accounts using the same IP.

[Mpamaegbu]

I like it when spreadsheets are made public. In fact, it's a matter of policy for me not to apply to any bounty that won't publish the spreadsheet. Also, making it public helps curtail the activities of scammers who enroll with other people's username or with multiple accounts. However, the only thing I don't like about this is putting out our emails. Exposing participants' emails to be sold to data criminals and causes junk mails.

[Woodie]

The forum has had successful signature campaigns like bitmixer.io run for a long time with technically speaking no public spreadsheets available to the community thanks to SMAS and a campaign manager who was doing their job. Now the issue at hand of whether signature campaign spreadsheets should be open or not is at the discretion of the campaign manager provided he or she ensures the participants are in line with forum rules.

But then again a public spreadsheet has its advantages as this could help fish out cheating users, help bystanders know if there is an open spot for them to apply and also allow any interested party to know what standards the campaign manager works with which could work in his favour and be recommended for future jobs.