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March 10, 2019, 11:15:52 PM
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The value of the items you get from loot boxes diminishes over time

I'd argue its more complex then that, its subject to standard supply and demand.    A big factor is population growth for that particular game, sure csgo items can just be tokens but its base worth is to be used with the game.   So more players is more demand and big thing was it going free to play recently.
The other side is the supply which for csgo I know does go down after a while, the boxes have a peaking kind of circulation to them.   Obviously on first release its very new and nobody has one or its contents.   But also a few years later the boxes do not drop in game, you must buy them from market which can create surprising demand and so on

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March 11, 2019, 01:55:36 AM
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I don't see the connection between investing in videos games and gambling since this are two totally different things. I have friends who invested a lot of money in video games but never played on a casino in their whole life. I don't think video games is the reason why people start gambling. The real reason it's because they want a quick profit and they need urgent money so they try their luck at casino since this is literally the fastest way someone could increase their money.
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March 11, 2019, 02:47:08 AM
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Video games are loaded with aspects of gambling and people of all groups and ages play these games in modern times.  Many games have things like loot boxes that you pay for to random prizes, Runescape has the duel arena where you can gamble gold against one another, and there are many more examples.

People may start off with video games and then eventually move on to higher sums gambling in real casinos.  What are your thoughts on this matter and should anything be done?
I have been playing video games and online games for more than 10 years now.and you are right most of them implicates gambling theres looting for something that you can sell for Fiats or cash.i played Ran Online wayback in which the pot items in event can be trade for cash so thats a gambling aready.so better prevent our family to become addicted
You can't just prevent them especially if people around them were playing online games too. It just depends on their field of interest if they really like to play for a long term or play it for fun, just like gambling. Some people are playing online games for one purpose only, to sell some items or trade it with real cash. These people are addict already in any online games while some of them hire some pilot for their account to level up that fast.

its more beneficial if we can integrate online games with gambling , like for example trading ( buy/sell items with real cash ) because that makes us more profitable than playing simple onling games which isnt really beneficial to us . this was popular before on the era of " level up games " like ragnarok , ran , mu and others but after they died  .  buying and selling of items in online games have also died a little  . 
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March 11, 2019, 03:08:38 AM
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I don't see the connection between investing in videos games and gambling since this are two totally different things. I have friends who invested a lot of money in video games but never played on a casino in their whole life. I don't think video games is the reason why people start gambling. The real reason it's because they want a quick profit and they need urgent money so they try their luck at casino since this is literally the fastest way someone could increase their money.

But video game can make people addicting. I see many younger people playing games like dota, mobile legends, and other games. Sometimes, they gather in the cafe and play together, and I see that young people also play in everywhere if they don't have any activity. But maybe video game can change into a gambling game as we know that it will easily to use money as the bets and it's not only for just playing games.

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March 11, 2019, 03:50:19 AM
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I don't see the connection between investing in videos games and gambling since this are two totally different things. I have friends who invested a lot of money in video games but never played on a casino in their whole life. I don't think video games is the reason why people start gambling. The real reason it's because they want a quick profit and they need urgent money so they try their luck at casino since this is literally the fastest way someone could increase their money.

Don't you have any friends who first started out gambling with video games then ended up having some serious gambling problems. When you play video games with your friends, don't you sometimes place bets on who would win? Even when you're not playing yourself and you're just hanging with your friends who are playing, its fun to make bets out of the game. It's start out as simple and harmless, a small bet or two.

In my humble opinion, there's no harm to making bets whilst playing video games however this may sometimes form into a bad habit for others. There are some who get addicted to the thrill of gambling and would seek for more and thus would seek for casinos.
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March 11, 2019, 03:55:55 AM
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I don't see the connection between investing in videos games and gambling since this are two totally different things. I have friends who invested a lot of money in video games but never played on a casino in their whole life. I don't think video games is the reason why people start gambling. The real reason it's because they want a quick profit and they need urgent money so they try their luck at casino since this is literally the fastest way someone could increase their money.
There's somehow connection between video game and gambling addiction because I have see a situation where three high school kids bet on a certain video game which literally turn to their habit. However, youre talking about investing video games while the OP presume video games could lead to some gambler addiction.

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March 11, 2019, 04:03:11 AM
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I don't see the connection between investing in videos games and gambling since this are two totally different things. I have friends who invested a lot of money in video games but never played on a casino in their whole life. I don't think video games is the reason why people start gambling. The real reason it's because they want a quick profit and they need urgent money so they try their luck at casino since this is literally the fastest way someone could increase their money.
There's somehow connection between video game and gambling addiction because I have see a situation where three high school kids bet on a certain video game which literally turn to their habit. However, youre talking about investing video games while the OP presume video games could lead to some gambler addiction.
That's right, there's relevance as newer online games already been used for gambling so it's really possible, not sure but E-games is one of those many example where the real intentions of those games is to have some fun but in the other side adding spice players start to play with some stakes, the
sports now are being used for online gambling.

Video gaming's have different  interface but possibilities always open for new sets of ideas where gambling can be integrate to any
entertaining games.
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March 11, 2019, 04:26:22 AM
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Video gaming's have different  interface but possibilities always open for new sets of ideas where gambling can be integrate to any
entertaining games.
I think video games attracted young age people like at the age of teens and it is different from gambling because people in gambling are at the right age.
But all of that we call addiction is in our mind only we can fix that, you need to stop blaming the video games/gamblings and take responsibility for your own action. Because video games/gambling aren’t addictive. Marijuana is addictive, heroin is addictive, methamphetamine is addictive, cocaine is addictive, alcohol, nicotine… those are addictive.

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March 11, 2019, 05:15:42 AM
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Video games are loaded with aspects of gambling and people of all groups and ages play these games in modern times.  Many games have things like loot boxes that you pay for to random prizes, Runescape has the duel arena where you can gamble gold against one another, and there are many more examples.

People may start off with video games and then eventually move on to higher sums gambling in real casinos.  What are your thoughts on this matter and should anything be done?
Sometime i addicted with gamble for in game items, thats what people called gacha  Grin. But when we spend money and not get item, it make us curious and keep try until we get what we want.

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March 11, 2019, 07:35:29 AM
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Video games are loaded with aspects of gambling and people of all groups and ages play these games in modern times.  Many games have things like loot boxes that you pay for to random prizes, Runescape has the duel arena where you can gamble gold against one another, and there are many more examples.

People may start off with video games and then eventually move on to higher sums gambling in real casinos.  What are your thoughts on this matter and should anything be done?

Every game has those incentives that forces players to keep playing in order to get more rewards and to upgrade.Some of those incentives look pretty much like gambling rewards,but that doesn't mean that the players gamble.Every game creator or game design studio want's the players to play his game more and more,to purchase upgrades and finally to become complete gaming addicts.

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March 11, 2019, 02:39:52 PM
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Video games are loaded with aspects of gambling and people of all groups and ages play these games in modern times.  Many games have things like loot boxes that you pay for to random prizes, Runescape has the duel arena where you can gamble gold against one another, and there are many more examples.

People may start off with video games and then eventually move on to higher sums gambling in real casinos.  What are your thoughts on this matter and should anything be done?

Every game has those incentives that forces players to keep playing in order to get more rewards and to upgrade.Some of those incentives look pretty much like gambling rewards,but that doesn't mean that the players gamble.Every game creator or game design studio want's the players to play his game more and more,to purchase upgrades and finally to become complete gaming addicts.

We can say that this is just a game even in all sort of genre of the games I think you can sure see some aspect of gambling in there even if there is a little thing on it, I think we all learn to gamble with Experience and with the basic things we play even if we are not aware of it there are things in the video games right now that have a betting schemes just like when you are grinding with different levels the random item drops you can is also one of the things you can make your friends make a bet with, Although even if there are aspect of gambling in every game there is no money involve in it except someone would surely make a bet for it.

And actually, we are surrounded by things we can use as betting paraphernalia all you need to do is the image you can set within it.
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March 11, 2019, 04:03:00 PM
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The value of the items you get from loot boxes diminishes over time so eventually people would stop buying them until a new version gets released. I myself buy some loot boxes if it's only available for a limited time but for me the experience of opening loot boxes isn't the same as gambling on a casino because on steam I know there's a cooldown on items. Having a cooldown on csgo items stopped cs:go gambling sites from operating and a few of them moved to bitcoin payments. The most gambled item nowadays is dota items and soon it could also have a cooldown.
I do see anything wrong with enjoying a video game or paying extra coin to achieve a certain level while playing the game. I really don’t know why everyone who’s in love with doing something be termed an addict.

I think people view things differently, that you can’t pay to upgrade in playing a video game does not mean others shouldn’t too and I do not think there’s anything anyone can do about this. Is left for the gamer to decide if they are willing to pay extra to unveil whatever boxes been promised.
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March 12, 2019, 02:56:34 PM
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Video games are loaded with aspects of gambling and people of all groups and ages play these games in modern times.  Many games have things like loot boxes that you pay for to random prizes, Runescape has the duel arena where you can gamble gold against one another, and there are many more examples.

People may start off with video games and then eventually move on to higher sums gambling in real casinos.  What are your thoughts on this matter and should anything be done?
Nothing much can be done to put these in check as the video game in question is a project that is not imposed on anyone, in fact most of us playing video games are gradually gambling without knowing it but in real life I don’t gamble much like getting to the stage of addiction.

In fact I have been playing games for the past 10 years and all these features you mention are not new to video games but I didn’t get exposed to gambling till last year when I was looking for other means of making more money, so even if the children are playing games, provided they don’t even have an idea of what gambling is or exposed to the real one, I think video games are still safe for them to play.
Thank you very much for this mate, Absolutely nothing can be done. I personally do not see anything wrong with playing and paying for a game especially when am having fun and at the same time making my little money. I am not in support  of getting kids exposed to this and I believe most times children do not even pick interest in making payment to upgrade for the games as they are likely happy playing without making payment .

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March 12, 2019, 05:25:48 PM
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The value of the items you get from loot boxes diminishes over time

I'd argue its more complex then that, its subject to standard supply and demand.    A big factor is population growth for that particular game, sure csgo items can just be tokens but its base worth is to be used with the game.   So more players is more demand and big thing was it going free to play recently.
The other side is the supply which for csgo I know does go down after a while, the boxes have a peaking kind of circulation to them.   Obviously on first release its very new and nobody has one or its contents.   But also a few years later the boxes do not drop in game, you must buy them from market which can create surprising demand and so on

Digital items that have "rarity" but the whole thing is ridiculous because the game creator can instantly create infinite amounts.  Selling digital video game items is one of the best business models, costs nothing to create and you have tons of addicited customers.
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March 12, 2019, 05:34:52 PM
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OP you are 100% right, great example of video game gambling could be warface too, you need to deposit money and buy some things if you want to own better equipment than others and reach higher levels quickly. Another example can be online web based game imperia online too, you need diamonds to develop your empire quickly and effectively.
But the reason why this isn't banned and there is zero talk on addiction is that usually people who play such games aren't so addicted to deposit a lot of money here. In casino usually you deposit more in order to get back previous loss but here situation is different.

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March 12, 2019, 07:26:22 PM
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I don't see the connection between investing in videos games and gambling since this are two totally different things. I have friends who invested a lot of money in video games but never played on a casino in their whole life. I don't think video games is the reason why people start gambling. The real reason it's because they want a quick profit and they need urgent money so they try their luck at casino since this is literally the fastest way someone could increase their money.
It is not necessarily but it can be one of the reason why people get into gambling but I am also not agree that video game addiction lets us to gamble because bother were different kind of addictions.

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March 12, 2019, 08:50:23 PM
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OP you are 100% right, great example of video game gambling could be warface too, you need to deposit money and buy some things if you want to own better equipment than others and reach higher levels quickly. Another example can be online web based game imperia online too, you need diamonds to develop your empire quickly and effectively.
But the reason why this isn't banned and there is zero talk on addiction is that usually people who play such games aren't so addicted to deposit a lot of money here. In casino usually you deposit more in order to get back previous loss but here situation is different.
A lot of video games ask for some money like this, but I think it is still your choice whether to upgrade your character or not, but I think this is not a real gambling because in most of the video games you will receive nothing but only an enjoyment. Gambling is something that you do because of money, and video games is different.
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March 13, 2019, 02:22:58 AM
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OP you are 100% right, great example of video game gambling could be warface too, you need to deposit money and buy some things if you want to own better equipment than others and reach higher levels quickly. Another example can be online web based game imperia online too, you need diamonds to develop your empire quickly and effectively.
But the reason why this isn't banned and there is zero talk on addiction is that usually people who play such games aren't so addicted to deposit a lot of money here. In casino usually you deposit more in order to get back previous loss but here situation is different.
A lot of video games ask for some money like this, but I think it is still your choice whether to upgrade your character or not, but I think this is not a real gambling because in most of the video games you will receive nothing but only an enjoyment. Gambling is something that you do because of money, and video games is different.
I agree with you when you say that gambling is something people do for money but there are some people who actually do it for fun and enjoyment but I guess we are not talking about addiction anymore here since they are playing rarely when they feel bored and don't have anything else to do
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March 13, 2019, 10:54:56 AM
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In my country they've just banned the use of loot boxes in video games (Belgium).
I've gotta say that I'm pretty glad that they did this, too many children are slowly becoming addicted to gambling because of this.

Now, I have no idea whether they can enforce this for all games, I think there's still a fair number of mobile games that have these gambling mechanics in place.
Some big studios have made adjustments though, but it also means that some games will not be available here anymore.

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March 13, 2019, 01:23:02 PM
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I think some young people using video games for gambling. For example, they learn about poker with one or two friends, and they play in every day. And if they think that they can play poker with good, then they ask how if we use small money to test our skill? From that, one player win and the rest is lost. They found excitement in the poker game and one day, and they are curious with the real poker in the casino. So they go to the casino and finally, they are playing gambling. I am sure that there is many other video games that they can play and they don't realize if that could bring them into a gambling game.

We know that nowadays, there are so many video games that we don't know if the games have a chance to make the younger people play gambling because they don't tell us what game they played. And if we take a look in their Android phone or their pc, they said that the game is attractive and make them curious with the next level.

There are some regulations that the government can make to protect young people from becoming a gambler. The government needs to prohibit the game that could be a way for young people for gambling. They can use their rule to defend the younger people so the chance for them to become addicting in a game or the gambling can reduce.

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