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This video of the Jimmy Dore show is a bit of an eye opener. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HqA02PaAYcWashington's attack on the politics of Venezuela is certainly throwing up some interesting history. It almost seems that the US would be better off if it rejected their slavery under Washington, and adopted a variation of the Venezuelan political model. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 11, 2019, 09:26:44 AM |
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Shhhh...
Don't put facts like that. Communism and socialism are evil. Cuba didn't have one of the best helth system in the world, and they didn't run program to help the whole South America getting treated in specialized areas like eye surgery. Chile wasn't on its way to get rid of both its poverty and its inequalities until USA didn't make a coup with Pinochet who was absolutely not the worst South American dictatory ever.
USA aren't responsible at all for the mess of South America.
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March 11, 2019, 06:04:39 PM |
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The trouble with propaganda is it's intended to be believable, no matter how outlandish the claims. The more "believable" something like that happens to be, the more suspicious I get. Something in the water maybe?
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I do remember a heating oil program under Chavez long ago before Socialism had totally gutted that nation. It was limited and more intended as a fuck you to Obama than to actually help. Basically just making a show of the fact there are some poor Americans, look how powerful we are in relation to your poorest... you can't even take care of your own people etc. It is hand crafted to pay a small cost of public funds to cover up their own domestic failures and increase their international clout.
I actually like Jimmy Dore because he is not a total wingbat and he is right about some stuff, but he is more of a comedian and doesn't always check his facts.
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March 11, 2019, 06:40:58 PM |
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Let me guess not even clicking it. This is something Russia Today related. Am I right ha?
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March 11, 2019, 07:09:08 PM |
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Let me guess not even clicking it. This is something Russia Today related. Am I right ha?
He is talking about a clip from RT.
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March 11, 2019, 08:00:50 PM |
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I like this one. It's not an eye opener sure thing but still. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEdn1Km734M&t=47sAmerican Journalist In Russia Tells Truth About RT. Again AMERICAN JOURNALIST IN RUSSIA TELLS TRUTH ABOUT RT WHILE RUNNING HIS OWN SHOW ON RT. Seriously, what else could he tell but truth? Pure gold.
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I like this one. It's not an eye opener sure thing but still. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEdn1Km734M&t=47sAmerican Journalist In Russia Tells Truth About RT. Again AMERICAN JOURNALIST IN RUSSIA TELLS TRUTH ABOUT RT WHILE RUNNING HIS OWN SHOW ON RT. Seriously, what else could he tell but truth? Pure gold. what is the truth about RT could you say it in few sentences?, i mean RT says it that its russian state television.we all know that so what? i heard americans take RT more serious than CNN nowadays.
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March 12, 2019, 03:22:15 PM |
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Trump's budget plan gives an idea of the future for America. 9% cut from domestic aid programs, and a 5% increase in offence spending, such as regime change in Iran and Venezuela. It seems that the only way he can balance that budget is to send Americans into war theatres to die, and thus cut costs that way.
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March 12, 2019, 04:36:23 PM |
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Come on - all he is doing, to use your analogy, is pouring petrol on the flames. He needs to butt out, and sort out the problems at home. All he is doing is turning the world against America. That is a shame because it is Washington, and not America that is the problem. He is going to lead you into a war, and that will destroy the country economically and politically. I don't believe that the US is the top military force any more, they seem to lose all the wars they get into directly.
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March 13, 2019, 01:27:32 AM |
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what is the truth about RT could you say it in few sentences?, i mean RT says it that its russian state television.we all know that so what?
i heard americans take RT more serious than CNN nowadays.
Well, RT lies all the way. Their job has nothing to do with journalism in general, as well as job of all other (state) media in Russia. Agree with Macron here (start at 00:48): https://www.france24.com/en/20170530-macron-rt-sputnik-lying-propaganda-putin-versailles-russia-france-electionAll they does is "whitewashes the actions of Putin" as this woman says: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNBjiO-YgHkYour from Germany as I undestand right? Gonna like this one if so: Staci Bivens knew something was seriously wrong when her bosses at Russia Today asked her to put together a story alleging that Germany — Europe's economic powerhouse — was a failed state.
"It was me and two managers and they had already discussed what they wanted," Bivens, an American who worked in RT's Moscow headquarters from 2009 through 2011, said of a meeting she'd had to discuss the segment before a planned reporting trip to Germany. "They called me in and it was really surreal. One of the managers said, 'The story is that the West is failing, Germany is a failed state.'"
Bivens, who had spent time in Germany, told the managers the story wasn't true — the term "failed state" is reserved for countries that fail to provide basic government services, like Somalia or Congo, not for economically advanced, industrialized nations like Germany. They insisted. Bivens refused. RT flew a crew to Germany ahead of Bivens, who was flown in later to do a few standups and interviews about racism in Germany. It was the beginning of the end of her RT career.
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March 13, 2019, 01:30:35 AM |
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Also, I heard CIA behind Venezuela's blackout. Facts.
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March 14, 2019, 05:47:07 AM |
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The "Bolivar of Broken Dreams" comment in Imgur cracked me up. People seem to show more respect for dead leaves than these useless fiat. Also, I heard CIA behind Venezuela's blackout. Facts. "Heard". "Facts". Somehow those two don't seem to fit in the same paragraph.
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March 14, 2019, 06:27:44 AM |
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what is the truth about RT could you say it in few sentences?, i mean RT says it that its russian state television.we all know that so what?
i heard americans take RT more serious than CNN nowadays.
Well, RT lies all the way. Their job has nothing to do with journalism in general, as well as job of all other (state) media in Russia. Agree with Macron here (start at 00:48): https://www.france24.com/en/20170530-macron-rt-sputnik-lying-propaganda-putin-versailles-russia-france-electionAll they does is "whitewashes the actions of Putin" as this woman says: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNBjiO-YgHkYour from Germany as I undestand right? Gonna like this one if so: Staci Bivens knew something was seriously wrong when her bosses at Russia Today asked her to put together a story alleging that Germany — Europe's economic powerhouse — was a failed state.
"It was me and two managers and they had already discussed what they wanted," Bivens, an American who worked in RT's Moscow headquarters from 2009 through 2011, said of a meeting she'd had to discuss the segment before a planned reporting trip to Germany. "They called me in and it was really surreal. One of the managers said, 'The story is that the West is failing, Germany is a failed state.'"
Bivens, who had spent time in Germany, told the managers the story wasn't true — the term "failed state" is reserved for countries that fail to provide basic government services, like Somalia or Congo, not for economically advanced, industrialized nations like Germany. They insisted. Bivens refused. RT flew a crew to Germany ahead of Bivens, who was flown in later to do a few standups and interviews about racism in Germany. It was the beginning of the end of her RT career. RT lies same amount as CNN and the other Central Banker owned Media so what? do you want to compare RT with the lies and corruption from western cryptomedia, where everything is agenda driven? different media house different perspective. western media however have become communists, with their geographic hatred an discrimination. they constantly insult and blame venezuela currently.
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So what you're saying is that there was a program, setup by Hugo Chavez in an attempt to sway public opinion towards him after Katrina. Every country in the world has tons and tons of programs that intend to help other countries, and at the time I'm not going to dispute that this program did help people.
Though you YET AGAIN forget that the Venezuelan economy was fully based on drilling for oil. It's not like this nation was paying top dollar for this product, they were literally pumping it, refining it, and then helping people in the US with their profits as a way to sway American voters towards the regime -- and to get the US off their back. This wasn't done out of the kindness of Chavez' heart, it was done for his own gain.
You ALSO miss the fact that this program obviously ends with the gas / oil prices come back down from their extremes, and Venezuela falls into peril after they've overextended themselves into these crazy programs and completetly forget that once the black oil gold rush ended they'd be fucked. This is poor planning by a country, and it shows how dangerous a country relying on what product is like.
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Washington's attack on the politics of Venezuela is certainly throwing up some interesting history. It almost seems that the US would be better off if it rejected their slavery under Washington, and adopted a variation of the Venezuelan political model. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So what? Pablo Escobar built homes and schools for the poor in Medellin. Does that make the drug lord a superior model, only because it happens to fit with your socialist dreams? You must be very ignorant of not knowing the amount of money Chávez spent worldwide seeking political support, basically all the money that could have fixed the problems of Venezuela, such as its rundown electric grid, or, i don't know, food and medicine... But what would a socialist understand. The main point is you have never lived under socialism, so you will never know. If you had, you would no longer be a socialist.
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March 14, 2019, 09:32:06 PM |
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Washington's attack on the politics of Venezuela is certainly throwing up some interesting history. It almost seems that the US would be better off if it rejected their slavery under Washington, and adopted a variation of the Venezuelan political model. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So what? Pablo Escobar built homes and schools for the poor in Medellin. Does that make the drug lord a superior model, only because it happens to fit with your socialist dreams? You must be very ignorant of not knowing the amount of money Chávez spent worldwide seeking political support, basically all the money that could have fixed the problems of Venezuela, such as its rundown electric grid, or, i don't know, food and medicine... But what would a socialist understand. The main point is you have never lived under socialism, so you will never know. If you had, you would no longer be a socialist. Oh thank god this is the point that you've found, I completely forget about this! It's an amazing point, gosh I wish I thought of it. I've come to learn that the only people that support socialism (or full socialism) are the ones that are living with all of the amazing amentities of a capitalistic society, they're the ones that have never seen the evils that are present in socialist countries and the peril that comes to those under this government. Too much free shit can only work if you have some amazing businesses holding this up, if the businesses run off or the money stops flowing in -- then you're shit out of luck and you're going to have to cut some of your programs, OR you're going to keep the programs running until it's all over.
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Washington's attack on the politics of Venezuela is certainly throwing up some interesting history. It almost seems that the US would be better off if it rejected their slavery under Washington, and adopted a variation of the Venezuelan political model. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So what? Pablo Escobar built homes and schools for the poor in Medellin. Does that make the drug lord a superior model, only because it happens to fit with your socialist dreams? You must be very ignorant of not knowing the amount of money Chávez spent worldwide seeking political support, basically all the money that could have fixed the problems of Venezuela, such as its rundown electric grid, or, i don't know, food and medicine... But what would a socialist understand. The main point is you have never lived under socialism, so you will never know. If you had, you would no longer be a socialist. Are any of the "Socialists" stopping to consider for a moment here that this person is potentially risking their life and freedom to speak out about Socialism? How bad do you think it has to be for some one to do that? Nah, it will be different... NEXT TIME! Oh thank god this is the point that you've found, I completely forget about this! It's an amazing point, gosh I wish I thought of it.
I've come to learn that the only people that support socialism (or full socialism) are the ones that are living with all of the amazing amentities of a capitalistic society, they're the ones that have never seen the evils that are present in socialist countries and the peril that comes to those under this government. Too much free shit can only work if you have some amazing businesses holding this up, if the businesses run off or the money stops flowing in -- then you're shit out of luck and you're going to have to cut some of your programs, OR you're going to keep the programs running until it's all over.
People seem to forget getting into Socialism is easy, but escaping it requires bloodshed. Never mind that... FREE SHIT EVERYBODY LETS PARTY! WOOOOOOOOOO!!! YANG GANG!
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