🌐[ANN]🌐Bank Independent Network🌐BINCOIN LIMITED COMPANY🌐

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[mySmile]

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My portfolio
Contact me if you need translation into Russian

[capcaypro]

I like Bincoin after reading white paper with a good concept to promote the project, and the team even having this meeting signifies its seriousness.

[Ribak1992]

does the visa company know that you work with it? 
she dont work with crypto projects. and without visa processing power and card issue your project is not starting.

[holydarkness]

If I recall correctly, your features are not really "new features" as most are already existed on current cryptocurrencies and wallets, like "remains in exclusive control of private keys", "fiat conversion rate", etc. I still like to highlight one of your "feature" though, the "researchers" that do regular audits... I believe you mean "auditors" here, not a researchers. Nonetheless, if I may know who will the auditors be? As they're world class, if they're working with you, I believe we can find their reputations on the internet and it'll boost your credibility.

[BINcoins]

I like Bincoin after reading white paper with a good concept to promote the project, and the team even having this meeting signifies its seriousness.

Hello!
Thank you!
It's really great to feel such support!

[JekHuston88]

If I recall correctly, your features are not really "new features" as most are already existed on current cryptocurrencies and wallets, like "remains in exclusive control of private keys", "fiat conversion rate", etc. I still like to highlight one of your "feature" though, the "researchers" that do regular audits... I believe you mean "auditors" here, not a researchers. Nonetheless, if I may know who will the auditors be? As they're world class, if they're working with you, I believe we can find their reputations on the internet and it'll boost your credibility.

can't really agree with you, everything looks like the guyz from bincoin improved already existed and created fully new service, with a great quolity. this is maybe the main - the difference in quolity
and they have already working products - its impressive

[TremissOfficial]

Really good project, do you have a bounty program? And if yes can you give me link?

[BINcoins]

Really good project, do you have a bounty program? And if yes can you give me a link?

Hello!
Of course, we have a bounty program
You can join it via link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120266.new#new

Best Regards!

[CryptoLoan]

How can I invite my friends using the referral program?

[BINcoins]

How can I invite my friends using the referral program?

Hello. Follow this simple instruction

As You got Refer code in your Mail, You just need to share this code with Your friends.
Once Your friends fill up the below form: https://bincoins.io/joinico and Purchase BIN.
You will be eligible to get Refferal Bonus in Your wallet.

Best regards!

[HermesLoan]

your project looks very professional. I like the big team and really understandable WP

Are you based in US?

[FargoCash]

As I can see your project has his own coin (not token ), can I mine it?

[BINcoins]

your project looks very professional. I like the big team and really understandable WP

Are you based in the US?

Hello!
Thank you so much, we appreciate your attitude

Yes, we are registered in the US and in the UK. However, our team is international

Best regards

[HermesLoan]

your project looks very professional. I like the big team and really understandable WP

Are you based in the US?

Hello!
Thank you so much, we appreciate your attitude

Yes, we are based in the US, however, the team is international

Best regards

Thant's really great!
Wish you a good luck

[BINcoins]

As I can see your project has his own coin (not token ), can I mine it?

Hello!
Sure, you can mine it. Visit our website for details bincoins.io

 

[BINcoins]

does the visa company know that you work with it? 

Hello!
Why are you so sure that visa doesn’t work with crypto projects? Cause the World is so changeable and most powerful companies are turning to crypto)

We’ve been negotiating with various financial companies, including visa. Now the project is still developing, as soon as we will have official final agreements, we will publish them. However, we can not do it now due to commercial privacy. Hope you’ll understand)

And thank you for your interest and care. We are sure that won’t let you down)

[BINcoins]

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Hello!
Thank you for the interest to our project.
We will contact with you)

Best regards!
BINcoin team

[Bethax]

what are your future plans?
you look like serious project

[BINcoins]

what are your future plans?
you look like serious project

Hi)
We are serious project)))

There are so much interesting to come, you can see all our plans described in RoadMap)

Best regards!

[AmoreJaz]

does the visa company know that you work with it? 

Hello!
Why are you so sure that visa doesn’t work with crypto projects? Cause the World is so changeable and most powerful companies are turning to crypto)

We’ve been negotiating with various financial companies, including visa. Now the project is still developing, as soon as we will have official final agreements, we will publish them. However, we can not do it now due to commercial privacy. Hope you’ll understand)

And thank you for your interest and care. We are sure that won’t let you down)

so you dont have the final agreements with Visa yet you are already using them on your website?



this is misleading people. false advertising.
for all we know, Visa might turn down your business request with them
i suggest remove the logo of Visa and wait til you finalised the deal with this company.

[meatfreak]

When I saw the logo it looked familiar to, in this case with the Bitmart logo.

[BINcoins]

does the visa company know that you work with it? 

Hello!
Why are you so sure that visa doesn’t work with crypto projects? Cause the World is so changeable and most powerful companies are turning to crypto)

We’ve been negotiating with various financial companies, including visa. Now the project is still developing, as soon as we will have official final agreements, we will publish them. However, we can not do it now due to commercial privacy. Hope you’ll understand)

And thank you for your interest and care. We are sure that won’t let you down)

so you don't have the final agreements with Visa yet you are already using them on your website?



this is misleading people. false advertising.
for all we know, Visa might turn down your business request with them
I suggest remove the logo of Visa and wait til you finalized the deal with this company.

We’ve got an agreement process with the issuer. Many issuers are cooperating with crypto companies. Here are some examples https://www.bitwala.com/card/
https://cryptopay.me/bitcoin-debit-card
https://uquid.com

We are not VISA issuers. The issuer who provides us with cards and services (Visa Debit & Prepaid Card) is "Contis Financial Services Ltd ".

[BentleyDanniel]

I want to know more abt the team of this project…

[holydarkness]

I actually wanted to ask about visa issue after I cleared the one I erected on previous page, which you haven't replied, but it seems I'm not the on only one curious about your confidence on visa cards. So, if you'd like to address my question on previous post, it'll be nice.

[BINcoins]

I actually wanted to ask about visa issue after I cleared the one I erected on previous page, which you haven't replied, but it seems I'm not the on only one curious about your confidence on visa cards. So, if you'd like to address my question on previous post, it'll be nice.

I agree with you that VISA question is quite interesting) Maybe that’s why there are so many of you who wants to know more about it and our agreements. This ANN was created specially for such options-to communicate and answer on communities questions)
We are here to help u understand the project. If you will read all “visa” messages carefully, you will notice that   all your answers are there✔️

[TremissOfficial]

Really good project, do you have a bounty program? And if yes can you give me a link?

Hello!
Of course, we have a bounty program
You can join it via link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120266.new#new

Best Regards!

Thank you for the fast answer. I will join it.

[holydarkness]

I actually wanted to ask about visa issue after I cleared the one I erected on previous page, which you haven't replied, but it seems I'm not the on only one curious about your confidence on visa cards. So, if you'd like to address my question on previous post, it'll be nice.

I agree with you that VISA question is quite interesting) Maybe that’s why there are so many of you who wants to know more about it and our agreements. This ANN was created specially for such options-to communicate and answer on communities questions)
We are here to help u understand the project. If you will read all “visa” messages carefully, you will notice that   all your answers are there✔️

Err... No, my focus right now is rather to the auditor team, as per my previous two post indicate, if you don't mind to revisit. Kindly attend to it, as well as the following, as we're on it anyway: what'll happen if visa rejects the partnership? What alternative will you take?

[BINcoins]

I actually wanted to ask about visa issue after I cleared the one I erected on previous page, which you haven't replied, but it seems I'm not the on only one curious about your confidence on visa cards. So, if you'd like to address my question on the previous post, it'll be nice.

I agree with you that VISA question is quite interesting) Maybe that’s why there are so many of you who wants to know more about it and our agreements. This ANN was created especially for such options-to communicate and answer on communities questions)
We are here to help u understand the project. If you will read all “visa” messages carefully, you will notice that   all your answers are there✔️

Err... No, my focus right now is rather to the auditor team, as per my previous two post indicate, if you don't mind to revisit. Kindly attend to it, as well as the following, as we're on it anyway: what'll happen if visa rejects the partnership? What alternative will you take?

As we have said before, our BINcoin company has already made a partnership with "Contis Financial Services Ltd" and they are not going to reject our plans. This company specializes on Visa Debit & Prepaid Card issuance, so you don't have to worry 

[HL Support]

I actually wanted to ask about visa issue after I cleared the one I erected on previous page, which you haven't replied, but it seems I'm not the on only one curious about your confidence on visa cards. So, if you'd like to address my question on the previous post, it'll be nice.

I agree with you that VISA question is quite interesting) Maybe that’s why there are so many of you who wants to know more about it and our agreements. This ANN was created especially for such options-to communicate and answer on communities questions)
We are here to help u understand the project. If you will read all “visa” messages carefully, you will notice that   all your answers are there✔️

Err... No, my focus right now is rather to the auditor team, as per my previous two post indicate, if you don't mind to revisit. Kindly attend to it, as well as the following, as we're on it anyway: what'll happen if visa rejects the partnership? What alternative will you take?

As we have said before, our BINcoin company has already made a partnership with "Contis Financial Services Ltd" and they are not going to reject our plans. This company specializes on Visa Debit & Prepaid Card issuance, so you don't have to worry 

Thats great that you a partnership already. You seems to be one of the most "prepared for the future" projects now.
After reading WP and here your answers, I decided that I'll support your project and your idea

[HL Support]

oh, by the way, is PREsale going on now?

[BINcoins]

I actually wanted to ask about visa issue after I cleared the one I erected on previous page, which you haven't replied, but it seems I'm not the on only one curious about your confidence on visa cards. So, if you'd like to address my question on the previous post, it'll be nice.

I agree with you that VISA question is quite interesting) Maybe that’s why there are so many of you who wants to know more about it and our agreements. This ANN was created especially for such options-to communicate and answer on communities questions)
We are here to help u understand the project. If you will read all “visa” messages carefully, you will notice that   all your answers are there✔️

Err... No, my focus right now is rather to the auditor team, as per my previous two post indicate, if you don't mind to revisit. Kindly attend to it, as well as the following, as we're on it anyway: what'll happen if visa rejects the partnership? What alternative will you take?

As we have said before, our BINcoin company has already made a partnership with "Contis Financial Services Ltd" and they are not going to reject our plans. This company specializes on Visa Debit & Prepaid Card issuance, so you don't have to worry 

Thats great that you a partnership already. You seems to be one of the most "prepared for the future" projects now.
After reading WP and here your answers, I decided that I'll support your project and your idea

We really appreciate your attitude and support!
We were working hard to achieve such results.
Hope you will stay with us for a long term
Best regards!

[BINcoins]

oh, by the way, is PREsale going on now?

Yes! You can join INFINITY PRE sale now and purchase BINcoins with 35% bonuses)

[Margary]

oh, by the way, is PREsale going on now?

Yes! You can join INFINITY PRE sale now and purchase BINcoins with 35% bonuses)

It's good, that the team took care of the bonuses for buyers. it is somehow attractive and allows you to get more benefits. so, I want to buy right now.

[BINcoins]

oh, by the way, is PREsale going on now?

Yes! You can join INFINITY PRE sale now and purchase BINcoins with 35% bonuses)

It's good, that the team took care of the bonuses for buyers. it is somehow attractive and allows you to get more benefits. so, I want to buy right now.

We are user-friendly project, that's why bonuses were binding)
Welcome on board

[maincoin.money]

oh, by the way, is PREsale going on now?

Yes! You can join INFINITY PRE-sale now and purchase BINcoins with 35% bonuses)

It's good, that the team took care of the bonuses for buyers. it is somehow attractive and allows you to get more benefits. so, I want to buy right now.

I want to do this too, and i will

[BINcoins]

oh, by the way, is PREsale going on now?

Yes! You can join INFINITY PRE-sale now and purchase BINcoins with 35% bonuses)

It's good, that the team took care of the bonuses for buyers. it is somehow attractive and allows you to get more benefits. so, I want to buy right now.

I want to do this too, and i will

Great!
Welcome to our BIN family
Don't forget to subscribe to our social media in order to stay informed)

[BINcoins]

Hello, I am representative of icoholder.com company.

You have been selected and added to icoholder.com. Find your project on our website and go through verification to add more information.

https://icoholder.com/en/bincoin-28967

Hello, TrevorJob!
Thank you for info!
We will go through verification as soon as possible!

[Twinkledoe]

I actually wanted to ask about visa issue after I cleared the one I erected on previous page, which you haven't replied, but it seems I'm not the on only one curious about your confidence on visa cards. So, if you'd like to address my question on the previous post, it'll be nice.

I agree with you that VISA question is quite interesting) Maybe that’s why there are so many of you who wants to know more about it and our agreements. This ANN was created especially for such options-to communicate and answer on communities questions)
We are here to help u understand the project. If you will read all “visa” messages carefully, you will notice that   all your answers are there✔️

Err... No, my focus right now is rather to the auditor team, as per my previous two post indicate, if you don't mind to revisit. Kindly attend to it, as well as the following, as we're on it anyway: what'll happen if visa rejects the partnership? What alternative will you take?

As we have said before, our BINcoin company has already made a partnership with "Contis Financial Services Ltd" and they are not going to reject our plans. This company specializes on Visa Debit & Prepaid Card issuance, so you don't have to worry 

So is everything ironed out with this Visa issues? And with your partnership with "Contis Financial Services Ltd" will make sure that you will get the accreditation of being under the Visa payment structure. Is that right? Most are hesitant when they put the logo of Visa because most of them are just using this famous payment gateway but in actuality there's really no collaboration at all.

[BINcoins]

I actually wanted to ask about visa issue after I cleared the one I erected on previous page, which you haven't replied, but it seems I'm not the on only one curious about your confidence on visa cards. So, if you'd like to address my question on the previous post, it'll be nice.

I agree with you that VISA question is quite interesting) Maybe that’s why there are so many of you who wants to know more about it and our agreements. This ANN was created especially for such options-to communicate and answer on communities questions)
We are here to help u understand the project. If you will read all “visa” messages carefully, you will notice that   all your answers are there✔️

Err... No, my focus right now is rather to the auditor team, as per my previous two post indicate, if you don't mind to revisit. Kindly attend to it, as well as the following, as we're on it anyway: what'll happen if visa rejects the partnership? What alternative will you take?

As we have said before, our BINcoin company has already made a partnership with "Contis Financial Services Ltd" and they are not going to reject our plans. This company specializes on Visa Debit & Prepaid Card issuance, so you don't have to worry 

So is everything ironed out with this Visa issues? And with your partnership with "Contis Financial Services Ltd" will make sure that you will get the accreditation of being under the Visa payment structure. Is that right? Most are hesitant when they put the logo of Visa because most of them are just using this famous payment gateway but in actuality there's really no collaboration at all.

The thing you need to know about BINcoin - is that we are not "the most') We are a serious and absolutely legal company, that does everything in a proper way. And our partnership is ironed✔️

[CryptoLoan]

The thing you need to know about BINcoin - is that we are not "the most') We are a serious and absolutely legal company, that does everything in a proper way. And our partnership is ironed✔️

Nice to hear this. I see that BINCOIN project is clear.

[BINcoins]

The thing you need to know about BINcoin - is that we are not "the most') We are a serious and absolutely legal company, that does everything in a proper way. And our partnership is ironed✔️

Nice to hear this. I see that BINCOIN project is clear.

Dear CryptoLoan!
Thank you :)We are really glad and proud to read such words about our work!

[sockpuppet1911]

So when can i order that card? Button doesn't seem to work yet or there's something wrong with my browser.

[holydarkness]

Err... Missed my earliest point again. It's on the first page  and I'm too lazy to requote it. In short, i actually wanted to know about those world class auditor (resewrcher if you prefer me saying it the way you said it) that audit your security system. It's a rather major point as we need to be able to clarify if those company really works with you or not.

[BINcoins]

So when can i order that card? Button doesn't seem to work yet or there's something wrong with my browser.

Hello, sockpuppet1911!

According to our roadmap, the issue of BINcards would be in June 2019. So you will be able to order it a little bit later. Follow the news, we will tell when this option will be available.

Best regards!

[BINcoins]

Err... Missed my earliest point again. It's on the first page and I'm too lazy to requote it. In short, i actually wanted to know about those world class auditor (resewrcher if you prefer me saying it the way you said it) that audit your security system. It's a rather major point as we need to be able to clarify if those company really works with you or not.

In order to get all the answers in detail, please visit our site and contact Pavel Skybin - he is our security specialist, who can give you all technical details regarding platform security, conducted researchers as well as audits.

Have a nice day!

[HR.Base]

As far as I understand, you have a new approach to the modern financial system and I like your realization, it seems like you did a good job.
Wish you a good luck

[ATFcoin]

invested today +35% bonuses, Go BINcoin!!!!!!

[Libertalia]

there are so many projects in crypto now, but yours captured my trust. Understandable WP, clear plans and team of active blockchain enthusiasts
will follow your updates

[Libertalia]

invested today +35% bonuses, Go BINcoin!!!!!!

wow 35% thats great,  I will definitely join you until this bonuses are

[lovesmayfamilis]

there are so many projects in crypto now, but yours captured my trust. Understandable WP, clear plans and team of active blockchain enthusiasts
will follow your updates

invested today +35% bonuses, Go BINcoin!!!!!!

The thing you need to know about BINcoin - is that we are not "the most') We are a serious and absolutely legal company, that does everything in a proper way. And our partnership is ironed✔️

Nice to hear this. I see that BINCOIN project is clear.

Are you talking to yourself?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120988.0

[BINcoins]

As far as I understand, you have a new approach to the modern financial system and I like your realization, it seems like you did a good job.
Wish you a good luck

Dear, HR.Bas, we really appreciate your support!
Yes, our team has done a good job and we are not going to stop

[HR.Base]

As far as I understand, you have a new approach to the modern financial system and I like your realization, it seems like you did a good job.
Wish you a good luck

Dear, HR.Bas, we really appreciate your support!
Yes, our team has done a good job and we are not going to stop

How can I download your wallet? Is it avaliable for Android?

[BINcoins]

As far as I understand, you have a new approach to the modern financial system and I like your realization, it seems like you did a good job.
Wish you a good luck

Dear, HR.Bas, we really appreciate your support!
Yes, our team has done a good job and we are not going to stop

How can I download your wallet? Is it avaliable for Android?

Yes, Android BIN Wallet is already available. You can download it via link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bincoin

Try it and come back here to share your opinion

[TiKToknit]

Hey everyone!
I am a newbie here, find your project and decided that it will be my first))

Do you a bounty program ?

[BINcoins]

Hey everyone!
I am a newbie here, find your project and decided that it will be my first))

Do you a bounty program ?

Hello! Welcome to crypto!
Yes, we have a bounty program You can join via link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120266.new#new

Best regards!

[TiKToknit]

Hey everyone!
I am a newbie here, find your project and decided that it will be my first))

Do you a bounty program ?

Hello! Welcome to crypto!
Yes, we have a bounty program You can join via link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120266.new#new

Best regards!

That's awesome! I will join

[BINcoins]

BINcoin team is happy and proud to present you with our BIN APP Wallet📲

Using our application is very easy as well as convenient. You can sell, buy, send, store or receive your crypto with Chat Pay Facility. That means, you will be able to manage your assets while chatting, isn’t that amazing?👏🏼

BIN App Wallet also provides you with⬇️

✔️USD EURO fiat currency conversion rates
✔️Pay Chat feature
✔️Track spending from watch-only addresses
✔️QR Code Support to easily send or receive payments
✔️Graphical Statics Information
✔️Peer to Peer chat facility
✔️BIN Debit Card Access
✔️Withdraw USD in Your Bank Directly
✔️Set 4-digit-pin or authenticate
✔️Feel safe knowing world-class researchers are conducting regular security audits
✔️Remain in exclusive control of your wallet’s private keys
✔️Manage your accounts and view transaction details

APPS are available to download via App Store for IOS or Google Play for Android📱

Follow the news and don’t miss an official release👉🏼 https://bincoins.io

[cryptb]

BINcoin team is happy and proud to present you with our BIN APP Wallet📲

Using our application is very easy as well as convenient. You can sell, buy, send, store or receive your crypto with Chat Pay Facility. That means, you will be able to manage your assets while chatting, isn’t that amazing?👏🏼

BIN App Wallet also provides you with⬇️

✔️USD EURO fiat currency conversion rates
✔️Pay Chat feature
✔️Track spending from watch-only addresses
✔️QR Code Support to easily send or receive payments
✔️Graphical Statics Information
✔️Peer to Peer chat facility
✔️BIN Debit Card Access
✔️Withdraw USD in Your Bank Directly
✔️Set 4-digit-pin or authenticate
✔️Feel safe knowing world-class researchers are conducting regular security audits
✔️Remain in exclusive control of your wallet’s private keys
✔️Manage your accounts and view transaction details

APPS are available to download via App Store for IOS or Google Play for Android📱

Follow the news and don’t miss an official release👉🏼 https://bincoins.io

hey, good service. Is it available  already to download? I wanna make some tests of your soft

[sockpuppet1911]

So when can i order that card? Button doesn't seem to work yet or there's something wrong with my browser.

Hello, sockpuppet1911!

According to our roadmap, the issue of BINcards would be in June 2019. So you will be able to order it a little bit later. Follow the news, we will tell when this option will be available.

Best regards!

Will do, thanks for pointing that out. I thought i had read the whole roadmap but i must have just skimmed it then...

[luksbit]

So when can i order that card? Button doesn't seem to work yet or there's something wrong with my browser.

Hello, sockpuppet1911!

According to our roadmap, the issue of BINcards would be in June 2019. So you will be able to order it a little bit later. Follow the news, we will tell when this option will be available.

Best regards!

And to apply for the debit card, will it be 20 BIN Coins? Will the debit card for recharge be only with coins BIN or can it recharge with eg ETH?

[holydarkness]

Err... Missed my earliest point again. It's on the first page and I'm too lazy to requote it. In short, i actually wanted to know about those world class auditor (resewrcher if you prefer me saying it the way you said it) that audit your security system. It's a rather major point as we need to be able to clarify if those company really works with you or not.

In order to get all the answers in detail, please visit our site and contact Pavel Skybin - he is our security specialist, who can give you all technical details regarding platform security, conducted researchers as well as audits.

Have a nice day!

Oh, kindly accept my apology, I didn't expect that your experienced "researcher" that will audit your security system is from your internal team, I always thought it will be wise to be audited by a third party.  I never expect that your researcher/auditor will come from within, in form of an... advertising agency.

"Pavel Skybin CEO of Hi-Tech Media, Advertising Agency" the linkedin profile said. Of course, I also wonder why he didn't mention he has a partnership with you despite the prestigious seat as "security manager", but I am more curious on how the advertising company audit your security, so I'd like to leave that topic for now. And of course, I would also like to leave the claim of "world class researcher" (auditor) on your site and opening post, which is not reflected anywhere on Mr. Skybin's experience. I really hope it was on his upwork resume, because I can't access that site due to the membership limitation

[TiKToknit]

Hey everyone!
I am a newbie here, find your project and decided that it will be my first))

Do you a bounty program ?

Hello! Welcome to crypto!
Yes, we have a bounty program You can join via link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120266.new#new

Best regards!

Hi. Can i participate if i newbie?

[BINcoins]

BINcoin team is happy and proud to present you with our BIN APP Wallet📲

Using our application is very easy as well as convenient. You can sell, buy, send, store or receive your crypto with Chat Pay Facility. That means, you will be able to manage your assets while chatting, isn’t that amazing?👏🏼

BIN App Wallet also provides you with⬇️

✔️USD EURO fiat currency conversion rates
✔️Pay Chat feature
✔️Track spending from watch-only addresses
✔️QR Code Support to easily send or receive payments
✔️Graphical Statics Information
✔️Peer to Peer chat facility
✔️BIN Debit Card Access
✔️Withdraw USD in Your Bank Directly
✔️Set 4-digit-pin or authenticate
✔️Feel safe knowing world-class researchers are conducting regular security audits
✔️Remain in exclusive control of your wallet’s private keys
✔️Manage your accounts and view transaction details

APPS are available to download via App Store for IOS or Google Play for Android📱

Follow the news and don’t miss an official release👉🏼 https://bincoins.io

hey, good service. Is it available  already to download? I wanna make some tests of your soft

Hello!
Yes, you already can download Android version via link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bincoin

We will be waiting for your tests and opinion regarding our service

[holydarkness]

Oh come on, it's rather difficult to accidentally miss my post, four posts above this? I started to wonder if you deliberately "missing" certain posts as you somehow always failed to reply around same subject. There's nothing to hide, right? Everything is legit and it is an easy task to address my concern, right?

[BINcoins]

Oh come on, it's rather difficult to accidentally miss my post, four posts above this? I started to wonder if you deliberately "missing" certain posts as you somehow always failed to reply around same subject. There's nothing to hide, right? Everything is legit and it is an easy task to address my concern, right?

I think that there is some kind of misunderstanding happened. We asked you to contact our security specialist so he would give you all the details. However, as far as I understand, you just explored his LinkedIn page and that’s all. Now I’ll try to explain everything one more time.

Pavel Skybin is our security manager, who works on our software and knows all the details regarding audits etc. On LinkedIn it is mentioned that he works with BINcoin project.
With regard to the resume, he is a high-level professional, who doesn’t have much time for social media and representing. But you can find part of his experience on his linkedIn page.

Besides Pavel, our soft has been audited by an independent auditor - Yurii Bykov. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MWUR0H9Gvhl9A9V0RjQfg1qdSPWJTInx/view?usp=sharing)

The thing is, we don’t choose team members as well as auditors, who are considered on their appearance in social media like LinkedIn, but on their professional achievements. And we are sorry that you couldn’t find all the info at once.

We wish you a good day! If you’ll have more questions, please ask here or in private messages-so we could answer faster.
Have a nice day!

[AmoreJaz]

Oh come on, it's rather difficult to accidentally miss my post, four posts above this? I started to wonder if you deliberately "missing" certain posts as you somehow always failed to reply around same subject. There's nothing to hide, right? Everything is legit and it is an easy task to address my concern, right?

I think that there is some kind of misunderstanding happened. We asked you to contact our security specialist so he would give you all the details. However, as far as I understand, you just explored his LinkedIn page and that’s all. Now I’ll try to explain everything one more time.

Pavel Skybin is our security manager, who works on our software and knows all the details regarding audits etc. On LinkedIn it is mentioned that he works with BINcoin project.
With regard to the resume, he is a high-level professional, who doesn’t have much time for social media and representing. But you can find part of his experience on his linkedIn page.

Besides Pavel, our soft has been audited by an independent auditor - Yurii Bykov. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MWUR0H9Gvhl9A9V0RjQfg1qdSPWJTInx/view?usp=sharing)

The thing is, we don’t choose team members as well as auditors, who are considered on their appearance in social media like LinkedIn, but on their professional achievements. And we are sorry that you couldn’t find all the info at once.

We wish you a good day! If you’ll have more questions, please ask here or in private messages-so we could answer faster.
Have a nice day!

@holydarkness - seems that your battle to uncover them is not yet over! huh!
i like your interest of consistently following up your questions. they are rational questions that need to be address by the team not in pm.
this is a good venue to discuss things. if they are not hiding anything, should be an easy peasy task for them, right?
people should know whats going on as trusting your hard-earned money is at stake here

[PrivateEnemy]

Oh come on, it's rather difficult to accidentally miss my post, four posts above this? I started to wonder if you deliberately "missing" certain posts as you somehow always failed to reply around same subject. There's nothing to hide, right? Everything is legit and it is an easy task to address my concern, right?

I think that there is some kind of misunderstanding happened. We asked you to contact our security specialist so he would give you all the details. However, as far as I understand, you just explored his LinkedIn page and that’s all. Now I’ll try to explain everything one more time.

Pavel Skybin is our security manager, who works on our software and knows all the details regarding audits etc. On LinkedIn it is mentioned that he works with BINcoin project.
With regard to the resume, he is a high-level professional, who doesn’t have much time for social media and representing. But you can find part of his experience on his linkedIn page.

Besides Pavel, our soft has been audited by an independent auditor - Yurii Bykov. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MWUR0H9Gvhl9A9V0RjQfg1qdSPWJTInx/view?usp=sharing)

The thing is, we don’t choose team members as well as auditors, who are considered on their appearance in social media like LinkedIn, but on their professional achievements. And we are sorry that you couldn’t find all the info at once.

We wish you a good day! If you’ll have more questions, please ask here or in private messages-so we could answer faster.
Have a nice day!

@holydarkness - seems that your battle to uncover them is not yet over! huh!
i like your interest of consistently following up your questions. they are rational questions that need to be address by the team not in pm.
this is a good venue to discuss things. if they are not hiding anything, should be an easy peasy task for them, right?
people should know whats going on as trusting your hard-earned money is at stake here

I agree, the discussion is really interesting here and I can see now that the project is really transparent and truthful. they answer all the questions, give all the required info as well as provide with personal communication with development team members.
This conversation ensured myself that project is great

[BINcoins]

Great news🚀

#BINcoin development team, has finished all wallet tests!
Now you download BIN Wallet for⬇️

Windows👉🏼 https://bincoins.io/bin/theme-assets/download/windows-bincoin_v1.1.0.zip 
Linux👉🏼 https://bincoins.io/bin/theme-assets/download/Linux-bincoin-v1.1.0.zip 
Mac👉🏼 https://bincoins.io/bin/theme-assets/download/Mac-bincoin-v1.1.0.zip

We are working for the benefits for our users, that’s why we propose you to become our examiner➡️ just download a suitable wallet for you, run it and express your opinion, cause it's highly important for us!

Please, help us to become better for you!
Express your proposals and suggestions in #BINcoin official #telegram chat👉🏼 https://t.me/BINcoinchat

[PrivateEnemy]

Great news🚀

#BINcoin development team, has finished all wallet tests!
Now you download BIN Wallet for⬇️

Windows👉🏼 https://bincoins.io/bin/theme-assets/download/windows-bincoin_v1.1.0.zip 
Linux👉🏼 https://bincoins.io/bin/theme-assets/download/Linux-bincoin-v1.1.0.zip 
Mac👉🏼 https://bincoins.io/bin/theme-assets/download/Mac-bincoin-v1.1.0.zip

We are working for the benefits for our users, that’s why we propose you to become our examiner➡️ just download a suitable wallet for you, run it and express your opinion, cause it's highly important for us!

Please, help us to become better for you!
Express your proposals and suggestions in #BINcoin official #telegram chat👉🏼 https://t.me/BINcoinchat[/center]

is it will be ok if I'll write a review of your wallet, for MAC?

[holydarkness]

Oh come on, it's rather difficult to accidentally miss my post, four posts above this? I started to wonder if you deliberately "missing" certain posts as you somehow always failed to reply around same subject. There's nothing to hide, right? Everything is legit and it is an easy task to address my concern, right?

I think that there is some kind of misunderstanding happened. We asked you to contact our security specialist so he would give you all the details. However, as far as I understand, you just explored his LinkedIn page and that’s all. Now I’ll try to explain everything one more time.

Pavel Skybin is our security manager, who works on our software and knows all the details regarding audits etc. On LinkedIn it is mentioned that he works with BINcoin project.
With regard to the resume, he is a high-level professional, who doesn’t have much time for social media and representing. But you can find part of his experience on his linkedIn page.

Besides Pavel, our soft has been audited by an independent auditor - Yurii Bykov. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MWUR0H9Gvhl9A9V0RjQfg1qdSPWJTInx/view?usp=sharing)

The thing is, we don’t choose team members as well as auditors, who are considered on their appearance in social media like LinkedIn, but on their professional achievements. And we are sorry that you couldn’t find all the info at once.

We wish you a good day! If you’ll have more questions, please ask here or in private messages-so we could answer faster.
Have a nice day!

Just to clear the situation here and bitch a little bit --in regards to the text I bolded--, I am aware that Mr. Skybin just added detail about his employment with your company within these past days. I know because I rather memorized his linkedin page, kinda know when the consistency of his employment history changed, so I believe he added it as per my inquiry, thus stating a small "We are aware of this issue, will ask Mr. Skybin to add the detail" will look more nice instead of saying the sentence I bolded which implied that I somehow failed to read what was "there". Small issue, aired, let's move on.

In regards to Mr. Bykov, that's a little bit better, having an external auditor that list his resume as "independent auditor". I am sure he is not the only "World class researchers" you refer to on the opening post? Is there another auditor I should know about?

[dnsokoljuk]

I see that Bincoin has a strong team and they do not shame to show themselves. Also Bincoin has a ready product.

[koldirkaev]

I see that Bincoin has a strong team and they do not shame to show themselves. Also Bincoin has a ready product.

Not agree. About a half of team members looks fake. And a word about genius naming.

[BINcoins]

Oh come on, it's rather difficult to accidentally miss my post, four posts above this? I started to wonder if you deliberately "missing" certain posts as you somehow always failed to reply around same subject. There's nothing to hide, right? Everything is legit and it is an easy task to address my concern, right?

I think that there is some kind of misunderstanding happened. We asked you to contact our security specialist so he would give you all the details. However, as far as I understand, you just explored his LinkedIn page and that’s all. Now I’ll try to explain everything one more time.

Pavel Skybin is our security manager, who works on our software and knows all the details regarding audits etc. On LinkedIn it is mentioned that he works with BINcoin project.
With regard to the resume, he is a high-level professional, who doesn’t have much time for social media and representing. But you can find part of his experience on his linkedIn page.

Besides Pavel, our soft has been audited by an independent auditor - Yurii Bykov. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MWUR0H9Gvhl9A9V0RjQfg1qdSPWJTInx/view?usp=sharing)

The thing is, we don’t choose team members as well as auditors, who are considered on their appearance in social media like LinkedIn, but on their professional achievements. And we are sorry that you couldn’t find all the info at once.

We wish you a good day! If you’ll have more questions, please ask here or in private messages-so we could answer faster.
Have a nice day!

Just to clear the situation here and bitch a little bit --in regards to the text I bolded--, I am aware that Mr. Skybin just added detail about his employment with your company within these past days. I know because I rather memorized his linkedin page, kinda know when the consistency of his employment history changed, so I believe he added it as per my inquiry, thus stating a small "We are aware of this issue, will ask Mr. Skybin to add the detail" will look more nice instead of saying the sentence I bolded which implied that I somehow failed to read what was "there". Small issue, aired, let's move on.

In regards to Mr. Bykov, that's a little bit better, having an external auditor that list his resume as "independent auditor". I am sure he is not the only "World class researchers" you refer to on the opening post? Is there another auditor I should know about?

As you have noticed, we are in a developing process and yes, sometimes we find our gaps in something so unimportant for software specialist, like linkedIn page. And we are grateful for you in particular for making a point.

With regard to another audits, of corce we will do more of them as well as invite independent experts. But this will be possible after all the products would be issued

To date, our experts and auditors have done their work carefully and fundamentally.  As far as the main products would be developed, we will make another audit with another experts. And of corse we will let our community know about it in social media and on the website.

Hope that we’ve answered on all your questions so far.

[BINcoins]

I see that Bincoin has a strong team and they do not shame to show themselves. Also Bincoin has a ready product.

Not agree. About a half of team members looks fake. And a word about genius naming.

We kindly asking you not to throw around wild accusations at our team without any objective reasons.

Each member of our team has been added on website bincoin.io with a link to LinkedIn/Facebook profile. Just switch to the link and communicate with any member and you will see that all of us are real people.

Moreover, if you don’t trust the site, check ICO trackers like icoholder and find out that we all passing the verification + soon we will pass the verification process on the ICObench.

With regard to the name of a project and google, unfortunately we can’t control the searching process. BINcoin is young and soon we will be more popular in search. However, its ok if you know what you are looking for. Try bincoin ico and you will easily find us)

[BINcoins]

I see that Bincoin has a strong team and they do not shame to show themselves. Also Bincoin has a ready product.

Dear dnsokoljuk!
We are happy and proud to read your thoughts regarding our project!
We appreciate your support.

Have a nice day!

[holydarkness]

Oh come on, it's rather difficult to accidentally miss my post, four posts above this? I started to wonder if you deliberately "missing" certain posts as you somehow always failed to reply around same subject. There's nothing to hide, right? Everything is legit and it is an easy task to address my concern, right?

I think that there is some kind of misunderstanding happened. We asked you to contact our security specialist so he would give you all the details. However, as far as I understand, you just explored his LinkedIn page and that’s all. Now I’ll try to explain everything one more time.

Pavel Skybin is our security manager, who works on our software and knows all the details regarding audits etc. On LinkedIn it is mentioned that he works with BINcoin project.
With regard to the resume, he is a high-level professional, who doesn’t have much time for social media and representing. But you can find part of his experience on his linkedIn page.

Besides Pavel, our soft has been audited by an independent auditor - Yurii Bykov. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MWUR0H9Gvhl9A9V0RjQfg1qdSPWJTInx/view?usp=sharing)

The thing is, we don’t choose team members as well as auditors, who are considered on their appearance in social media like LinkedIn, but on their professional achievements. And we are sorry that you couldn’t find all the info at once.

We wish you a good day! If you’ll have more questions, please ask here or in private messages-so we could answer faster.
Have a nice day!

Just to clear the situation here and bitch a little bit --in regards to the text I bolded--, I am aware that Mr. Skybin just added detail about his employment with your company within these past days. I know because I rather memorized his linkedin page, kinda know when the consistency of his employment history changed, so I believe he added it as per my inquiry, thus stating a small "We are aware of this issue, will ask Mr. Skybin to add the detail" will look more nice instead of saying the sentence I bolded which implied that I somehow failed to read what was "there". Small issue, aired, let's move on.

In regards to Mr. Bykov, that's a little bit better, having an external auditor that list his resume as "independent auditor". I am sure he is not the only "World class researchers" you refer to on the opening post? Is there another auditor I should know about?

As you have noticed, we are in a developing process and yes, sometimes we find our gaps in something so unimportant for software specialist, like linkedIn page. And we are grateful for you in particular for making a point.

With regard to another audits, of corce we will do more of them as well as invite independent experts. But this will be possible after all the products would be issued

To date, our experts and auditors have done their work carefully and fundamentally.  As far as the main products would be developed, we will make another audit with another experts. And of corse we will let our community know about it in social media and on the website.

Hope that we’ve answered on all your questions so far.

So, to conclude, how many auditors do auditing your security up to this day? Only Mr. Bykov? It will be a pleasure for me if I can get their names, for the sake of due-dilligence.

I see that Bincoin has a strong team and they do not shame to show themselves. Also Bincoin has a ready product.

Not agree. About a half of team members looks fake. And a word about genius naming.

~snip~

Moreover, if you don’t trust the site, check ICO trackers like icoholder and find out that we all passing the verification + soon we will pass the verification process on the ICObench.

~snip~

And then, there is this... proud statement of being listed on ICOHolder and, soon, ICOBench. Yeah, I personally think it's a good way to kill trust.

[sambuddha]

Hello!
Yes, you already can download Android version via link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bincoin

We will be waiting for your tests and opinion regarding our service

I liked the design) Simple and stylish. I love the design in dark colors) And the BIN Wallet logo is also very beautiful.

[cryptb]

BINcoin team is happy and proud to present you with our BIN APP Wallet📲

Using our application is very easy as well as convenient. You can sell, buy, send, store or receive your crypto with Chat Pay Facility. That means, you will be able to manage your assets while chatting, isn’t that amazing?👏🏼

BIN App Wallet also provides you with⬇️

✔️USD EURO fiat currency conversion rates
✔️Pay Chat feature
✔️Track spending from watch-only addresses
✔️QR Code Support to easily send or receive payments
✔️Graphical Statics Information
✔️Peer to Peer chat facility
✔️BIN Debit Card Access
✔️Withdraw USD in Your Bank Directly
✔️Set 4-digit-pin or authenticate
✔️Feel safe knowing world-class researchers are conducting regular security audits
✔️Remain in exclusive control of your wallet’s private keys
✔️Manage your accounts and view transaction details

APPS are available to download via App Store for IOS or Google Play for Android📱

Follow the news and don’t miss an official release👉🏼 https://bincoins.io

hey, good service. Is it available  already to download? I wanna make some tests of your soft

Hello!
Yes, you already can download Android version via link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bincoin

We will be waiting for your tests and opinion regarding our service

oh that's great!
You rock guys! Don't listen to anyone, BINcoin project is really cool, I've never seen so transparent and open-minded people like you here
GO BINCOIN!!!!

[BINcoins]

Great news🚀

#BINcoin development team, has finished all wallet tests!
Now you download BIN Wallet for⬇️

Windows👉🏼 https://bincoins.io/bin/theme-assets/download/windows-bincoin_v1.1.0.zip 
Linux👉🏼 https://bincoins.io/bin/theme-assets/download/Linux-bincoin-v1.1.0.zip 
Mac👉🏼 https://bincoins.io/bin/theme-assets/download/Mac-bincoin-v1.1.0.zip

We are working for the benefits for our users, that’s why we propose you to become our examiner➡️ just download a suitable wallet for you, run it and express your opinion, cause it's highly important for us!

Please, help us to become better for you!
Express your proposals and suggestions in #BINcoin official #telegram chat👉🏼 https://t.me/BINcoinchat[/center]

is it will be ok if I'll write a review of your wallet, for MAC?

yes. Actually it would be great!
We will wait for the results of your testing

[BINcoins]

Hello!
Yes, you already can download Android version via link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bincoin

We will be waiting for your tests and opinion regarding our service

I liked the design) Simple and stylish. I love the design in dark colors) And the BIN Wallet logo is also very beautiful.

Dear sambuddha!
We are very happy that you like our work!
Thank you for your opinion.

Best regards!

[BINcoins]

So when can i order that card? Button doesn't seem to work yet or there's something wrong with my browser.

Hello, sockpuppet1911!

According to our roadmap, the issue of BINcards would be in June 2019. So you will be able to order it a little bit later. Follow the news, we will tell when this option will be available.

Best regards!

And to apply for the debit card, will it be 20 BIN Coins? Will the debit card for recharge be only with coins BIN or can it recharge with eg ETH?

with BINcoins for now

[PrivateEnemy]

Oh come on, it's rather difficult to accidentally miss my post, four posts above this? I started to wonder if you deliberately "missing" certain posts as you somehow always failed to reply around same subject. There's nothing to hide, right? Everything is legit and it is an easy task to address my concern, right?

I think that there is some kind of misunderstanding happened. We asked you to contact our security specialist so he would give you all the details. However, as far as I understand, you just explored his LinkedIn page and that’s all. Now I’ll try to explain everything one more time.

Pavel Skybin is our security manager, who works on our software and knows all the details regarding audits etc. On LinkedIn it is mentioned that he works with BINcoin project.
With regard to the resume, he is a high-level professional, who doesn’t have much time for social media and representing. But you can find part of his experience on his linkedIn page.

Besides Pavel, our soft has been audited by an independent auditor - Yurii Bykov. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MWUR0H9Gvhl9A9V0RjQfg1qdSPWJTInx/view?usp=sharing)

The thing is, we don’t choose team members as well as auditors, who are considered on their appearance in social media like LinkedIn, but on their professional achievements. And we are sorry that you couldn’t find all the info at once.

We wish you a good day! If you’ll have more questions, please ask here or in private messages-so we could answer faster.
Have a nice day!

Just to clear the situation here and bitch a little bit --in regards to the text I bolded--, I am aware that Mr. Skybin just added detail about his employment with your company within these past days. I know because I rather memorized his linkedin page, kinda know when the consistency of his employment history changed, so I believe he added it as per my inquiry, thus stating a small "We are aware of this issue, will ask Mr. Skybin to add the detail" will look more nice instead of saying the sentence I bolded which implied that I somehow failed to read what was "there". Small issue, aired, let's move on.

In regards to Mr. Bykov, that's a little bit better, having an external auditor that list his resume as "independent auditor". I am sure he is not the only "World class researchers" you refer to on the opening post? Is there another auditor I should know about?

As you have noticed, we are in a developing process and yes, sometimes we find our gaps in something so unimportant for software specialist, like linkedIn page. And we are grateful for you in particular for making a point.

With regard to another audits, of corce we will do more of them as well as invite independent experts. But this will be possible after all the products would be issued

To date, our experts and auditors have done their work carefully and fundamentally.  As far as the main products would be developed, we will make another audit with another experts. And of corse we will let our community know about it in social media and on the website.

Hope that we’ve answered on all your questions so far.

So, to conclude, how many auditors do auditing your security up to this day? Only Mr. Bykov? It will be a pleasure for me if I can get their names, for the sake of due-dilligence.

I see that Bincoin has a strong team and they do not shame to show themselves. Also Bincoin has a ready product.

Not agree. About a half of team members looks fake. And a word about genius naming.

~snip~

Moreover, if you don’t trust the site, check ICO trackers like icoholder and find out that we all passing the verification + soon we will pass the verification process on the ICObench.

~snip~

And then, there is this... proud statement of being listed on ICOHolder and, soon, ICOBench. Yeah, I personally think it's a good way to kill trust.

wow...very weird point of view.
personally, I think that passing verification on above-mentioned portals - is a big plus to trust, cause all the team is represented clearly. I don't know why, but I can see that you just split hairs here. Look, the guys do a good job, lets be happy that truthful and useful projects still exist

[StephenJH]

Debit cards are not stable in many companies due to reasons behind the VISA and its sister companies. Wirex cards are only one that works flawless as far as i know from the feedback of other users. Is situation same with your cards?

[CaVO32]

wow...very weird point of view.
personally, I think that passing verification on above-mentioned portals - is a big plus to trust, cause all the team is represented clearly. I don't know why, but I can see that you just split hairs here. Look, the guys do a good job, lets be happy that truthful and useful projects still exist

this forum is open to all criticisms. so don't be surprised with discussions like this between holydarkness and BINcoins. 

if the dev team has strong grounds and they are confident with themselves, nothing to worry about. they can always address those questions directed to them. it will also show how robust the platform is. if they can overcome individuals like holydarkness, then i would say, they pretty conquer other major obstacles on their way.

[SixFigures]

Debit cards are not stable in many companies due to reasons behind the VISA and its sister companies. Wirex cards are only one that works flawless as far as i know from the feedback of other users. Is situation same with your cards?

But have you had problems with VISA in the past? You could have the same problems with Wirex if they decide to block your card or a transaction or want authorization before they send the debit, although that can be considered a security feature which these cards should have for larger amounts.

[holydarkness]

wow...very weird point of view.
personally, I think that passing verification on above-mentioned portals - is a big plus to trust, cause all the team is represented clearly. I don't know why, but I can see that you just split hairs here. Look, the guys do a good job, lets be happy that truthful and useful projects still exist

Ah well, I would rather not counting on ICO "review" portals, as most of them are either paid promote or doesn't really do their research deeply, passing ratings with a somewhat rather weak bases. And I see that I'm not alone on thinking so.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1139440
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1206615

If I also may point out one of their attempt to explain how their "research" ends in an unexpected way:

The data for the rating is cross-referenced from different sources. The project Yudi Token, for example, received a 4.7, as it is aggregated on all other sites with an average rate 4.7. When we figured out that it is a scam and team members have fake accounts, we updated the information immediately and placed a note: "Warning. It may be a Scam". Officium project was also marked with a Scam Warning.
Our experts do not make any ratings. It is aggregated using information from all rating sites. The rating may rise or fall and, generally speaking, change during an ICO.

~snip~

Can you guarantee that same thing won't happen to this project? That it won't, for unforeseen reason, ends up as a bad or even scam project "during an ICO" after more and more evidences are given by cryptocommunity, namely us? A DYOR is always the best way to judge a project, and what I do here is merely giving as many materials for whoever interested on this project. If they are legit, and have nothing to hide, then they surely can easily answer my questions and provide the evidences asked, otherwise they'll stutter. And rest assured, if they turn to be legit, I'm more than happy to stop bombarding questions (and move to pester other project, lol).

If you have a reason for being already so loyal with the project? Finished conducting DYOR perhaps? If so, and you could vouch for them, then kindly give your ID to be hold as collateral and to be hold as responsible if this project gone wrong, and I'll happily apologize for the statement I said on previous post. Otherwise, let this split hair do whatever it want to do.

this forum is open to all criticisms. so don't be surprised with discussions like this between holydarkness and BINcoins.  

if the dev team has strong grounds and they are confident with themselves, nothing to worry about. they can always address those questions directed to them. it will also show how robust the platform is. if they can overcome individuals like holydarkness, then i would say, they pretty conquer other major obstacles on their way.

My thoughts exactly. If they are legit and have nothing to hide, or... to borrow your word, robust, then my annoying questions are nothing for them

[PrivateEnemy]

Debit cards are not stable in many companies due to reasons behind the VISA and its sister companies. Wirex cards are only one that works flawlessly as far as i know from the feedback of other users. Is situation same with your cards?

wirex..is not that bad i guess

[BINcoins]

Debit cards are not stable in many companies due to reasons behind the VISA and its sister companies. Wirex cards are only one that works flawless as far as i know from the feedback of other users. Is situation same with your cards?

hello StephenJH
Our agreement with "Contis Financial Services Ltd" is going to provide all our users with the stable as well as flawless work of debit cards. With regard to Wirex, this company may show good results now, however they are too young and they haven't gain so much trust.

[BINcoins]

So, to conclude, how many auditors do auditing your security up to this day? Only Mr. Bykov? It will be a pleasure for me if I can get their names, for the sake of due-dilligence.




And then, there is this... proud statement of being listed on ICOHolder and, soon, ICOBench. Yeah, I personally think it's a good way to kill trust.

For now, our auditors are Mr. Bykov and Mr. Skybin.

As for ICOHolder and ICOBench, we are not responsible for the other projects or situation that "killed your trust", we just do all the necessary in the right way. We pass KYC, go through the verification in order to show that we are real and ready for adequate dialog in order to gain users trust.

[BINcoins]

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[sockpuppet1911]

Are you planning to list to other exchanges or will you keep this as an internal token on your exchange?

[BINcoins]

Are you planning to list to other exchanges or will you keep this as an internal token on your exchange?

Hello sockpuppet1911!
We are planning to list our token on the most popular crypto exchanges.

[BINcoins]

Dear BINcoin community!
We’ve got some exiting news for you👏🏼

Our development team has finally finished testing IOS Wallet soft and now it is available for download✅🚀

As is the case with Android APP, we kindly asking you to test our application and write your opinion in comments, cause itэs extremely important for us! And don’t forget to evaluate an app in the App Store📲

Download link👉🏼 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/bin-coin/id1455963307?ls=1&mt=8

[koldirkaev]

We kindly asking you not to throw around wild accusations at our team without any objective reasons.

But I did not raise any accusations, neither wild nor domestic. I just said they looks fake. I left myself the right to make mistakes. And yes, I have reason. Not objective but subjective. Zahar asked me once: Do I understand anything at all in marketing? So I decided to find out, maybe not, and maybe you are impeccable marketers?

Ok, for example, tell us a little about these people:

• Leonard Bintolsky
• Greg Linenfelser
• Michael Garcia

Who they are? Not legend. Just facts and links, we can prove. What we can learn on them from the web?

About iOS application. In terms of design, your developers are great. But the application is still buggy. I tried to pair it with web-wallet. Application throws me out from the Create PIN code screen.

In general it is good, that your developers are doing their best. But the algorithm used is hopelessly outdated. According info from developers its a little customized ASIC-friendly CryptoNight Classic. And generally it doesn't even matter, becouse of indecent, obscene premine. The only thing is your team doing right IMO is infrastructure. Wallets for all platforms, POS application is subject to my applause. But I would still like to see how it works. I wish you good luck, despite a lot of mistakes and wrong decisions (IMO) you made.

[BINcoins]

Hello koldirkaev!

Thank you for your opinion, we will continue improving our service and speak about our team in our social media.
Best regards

[holydarkness]

So, to conclude, how many auditors do auditing your security up to this day? Only Mr. Bykov? It will be a pleasure for me if I can get their names, for the sake of due-dilligence.




And then, there is this... proud statement of being listed on ICOHolder and, soon, ICOBench. Yeah, I personally think it's a good way to kill trust.

For now, our auditors are Mr. Bykov and Mr. Skybin.

As for ICOHolder and ICOBench, we are not responsible for the other projects or situation that "killed your trust", we just do all the necessary in the right way. We pass KYC, go through the verification in order to show that we are real and ready for adequate dialog in order to gain users trust.

Fair point for ICO reviewers, perhaps I am a bit too harsh and personal on it. Kindly accept my apology for the matter.

Moving forward with Mr. Bykov and Mr. Skybin, as your auditor were "only" these two users, with one being your staff taking care of security issue and the other just started his experience as independent auditor just on 2018, then I'd like to suggest you to revise your site and WP and OP about the claim of being audited by "World class researchers" because:

1. The plural form indicates that there were several entities doing regular checks for the security issue. Although two (2) is considered as more than singular (thus, plural), but the context of the announcement would lead people to assume there actually more than what is, like perhaps three to five entities at once. Thus, misleading.

2. The claim of world class researchers would clearly mislead people into trust and faith due to the (without any disrespect) lack of actual experience of the auditor themselves that's yet to prove themselves on worldwide scope, with one being freelancer of VBA and Phyton and the other as independent auditor within one year. I didn't find any detail on how their past experience could entitle them with "world class" calibre. Or, is there an article about their past experience and reputation to banish my dispute?

[BINcoins]

So, to conclude, how many auditors do auditing your security up to this day? Only Mr. Bykov? It will be a pleasure for me if I can get their names, for the sake of due-dilligence.




And then, there is this... proud statement of being listed on ICOHolder and, soon, ICOBench. Yeah, I personally think it's a good way to kill trust.

For now, our auditors are Mr. Bykov and Mr. Skybin.

As for ICOHolder and ICOBench, we are not responsible for the other projects or situation that "killed your trust", we just do all the necessary in the right way. We pass KYC, go through the verification in order to show that we are real and ready for adequate dialog in order to gain users trust.

Fair point for ICO reviewers, perhaps I am a bit too harsh and personal on it. Kindly accept my apology for the matter.

Moving forward with Mr. Bykov and Mr. Skybin, as your auditor were "only" these two users, with one being your staff taking care of security issue and the other just started his experience as independent auditor just on 2018, then I'd like to suggest you to revise your site and WP and OP about the claim of being audited by "World class researchers" because:

1. The plural form indicates that there were several entities doing regular checks for the security issue. Although two (2) is considered as more than singular (thus, plural), but the context of the announcement would lead people to assume there actually more than what is, like perhaps three to five entities at once. Thus, misleading.

2. The claim of world class researchers would clearly mislead people into trust and faith due to the (without any disrespect) lack of actual experience of the auditor themselves that's yet to prove themselves on worldwide scope, with one being freelancer of VBA and Phyton and the other as independent auditor within one year. I didn't find any detail on how their past experience could entitle them with "world class" calibre. Or, is there an article about their past experience and reputation to banish my dispute?

It's okay, everyone has a right for a personal opinion
As we have said before, we will attract new auditors and place the information about them on our official social media as well as the website. We appreciate your attention to our project and we will fix the info until new audits would appear.

[tmfp]

Any reason/excuse/fairy story?

[ICOEthics]

How much money did you make on your previous project?


SCAM ACCUSATION
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120221.0

[sockpuppet1911]

SCAM ACCUSATION
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120221.0

Thanks for this, i got out of their sig bounty.

[BINcoins]

Hello, ICOEthics!

We strongly believe that you do a good job, by finding scam projects. However, sometimes your accusations can be false and totally unproven.
We don't know what is that "buncoin" and have no relevance to that project.
The thing is, sometimes we all make mistakes like in the pics you downloaded. Our developer made a simple misprint and is going to fix it.

We are glad that we found that mistake and now able to fix it, however, we think that it wasn't fair and good from you to post this acquisition.

Our team consists of real people, who make mistakes sometimes. You can communicate with each person of our team in social media, you can also explore the KYC passed on ICObench https://icobench.com/ico/bincoin - that proves our words.

Hope that you will make deeper research and will see that we are totally truthful. Maybe after that, you will stop throwing false charges.

BINcoin team!

[tmfp]

Our developer made a simple misprint and is going to fix it.

Three exactly the same "simple misprints"?
Not "bitcoin" or "bigcoin", but "buucoin"?

We are glad that we found that mistake

you didn't find those mistakes.






Talking of mistakes, your main man (listed in front of your CEO and everyone else in the 'team') Zahar Deina seems to make quite a few.
Or to be completely accurate, other people seem to make the same mistake quite a few times by getting involved in schemes with him because, as far as I can see from his history, everything he touches turns to shit.

[cryptb]

wow.

honestly speaking, I am so disappointed by this forum and community represented by tmfp, ICOEthics

All this situation looks like frank bullying only for gaining trust. I don't believe in your "noble intentions" to find scums.

This forum wasn't created for such people like you, here we came for support and not for dragging mud, that you are

[tmfp]

wow.

honestly speaking, I am so disappointed by this forum and community represented by tmfp, ICOEthics

All this situation looks like frank bullying only for gaining trust. I don't believe in your "noble intentions" to find scums.

This forum wasn't created for such people like you, here we came for support and not for dragging mud, that you are

From an account that hasn't posted for six months and springs into life to support Bincoin.... cry me a fucking river.

[Ridwan Fauzi]

This forum wasn't created for such people like you, here we came for support and not for dragging mud, that you are

not for that, but you take the mud to this forum.

[logfiles]

wow.

honestly speaking, I am so disappointed by this forum and community represented by tmfp, ICOEthics

All this situation looks like frank bullying only for gaining trust. I don't believe in your "noble intentions" to find scums.

This forum wasn't created for such people like you, here we came for support and not for dragging mud, that you are

They are doing a great job fucking up your foolish attempts to try to ripoff innocent forum users.
Obviously the Forum wasn't meet for you.
Go try working in sewers or collecting garbage. You don't belong here with your garbage scammy projects.

You are the people who make cryptos look ugly in the eyes of the public because of your acts of greed.

[ICOEthics]

Hello, ICOEthics!

We strongly believe that you do a good job, by finding scam projects. However, sometimes your accusations can be false and totally unproven.
We don't know what is that "buncoin" and have no relevance to that project.
The thing is, sometimes we all make mistakes like in the pics you downloaded. Our developer made a simple misprint and is going to fix it.

We are glad that we found that mistake and now able to fix it, however, we think that it wasn't fair and good from you to post this acquisition.

Our team consists of real people, who make mistakes sometimes. You can communicate with each person of our team in social media, you can also explore the KYC passed on ICObench https://icobench.com/ico/bincoin - that proves our words.

Hope that you will make deeper research and will see that we are totally truthful. Maybe after that, you will stop throwing false charges.

BINcoin team!

False and unproven accusations:  REALLY?  Which one? As far as we remember everything in our accusation has not been disproved.
KYC done by that corrupted site is not accepted. ANd we don't care about KYC of your team - They are scammers.

What about your two love birds scammers: Kseniia and Zahar Deina: Are they brother and sister? Wife and husband? A coincidence of last names?

You can see how many more scams are there in this ring: CHECK HERE


https://bincoins.io/
https://web.archive.org/web/20190313140756/https://bincoins.io/
ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120167.0
https://web.archive.org/web/20190313140738/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120167.0
https://www.binpayment.com/register  (associated with Buucoin evidence)
archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20190324132002/https://www.binpayment.com/register
SCAM ACCUSATION: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120221.0
http://web.archive.org/web/20190324161257/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120221.0


What happened to that other project that switched team and put Kseniia and Zahar Deina instead? What happened to the old team members after exposed as a fake?
She already assumed that she is a team member. You can check the scam accusation here

 


Oh and BTW = it is cute how you scammers post on each other's thread. What is called? A scammer Bumping service?
Here are some examples - Maincoin (promoted by Deina) and you posted on their thread. scam accusation here

MAINCOIN SCAM

u seem to be really cool

thank u

MAINCOIN SCAM

oh, by the way, is PREsale going on now?

Yes! You can join INFINITY PRE-sale now and purchase BINcoins with 35% bonuses)

It's good, that the team took care of the bonuses for buyers. it is somehow attractive and allows you to get more benefits. so, I want to buy right now.

I want to do this too, and i will

TREMISS SCAM

Really good project, do you have a bounty program? And if yes can you give me link?

[CryptoDayOfficial]

MAINCOIN SCAM

oh, by the way, is PREsale going on now?

Yes! You can join INFINITY PRE-sale now and purchase BINcoins with 35% bonuses)

It's good, that the team took care of the bonuses for buyers. it is somehow attractive and allows you to get more benefits. so, I want to buy right now.

I want to do this too, and i will

TREMISS SCAM

Really good project, do you have a bounty program? And if yes can you give me link?

Dear. whistle-blower

its really sad to disappoint you, but all your accusations are fricking false.
Let's start with MainCoin - the coin is been traded on more than 10 exchanges, what scam are you talking about?
Akaiito - totally true project. Raised more than 1 million, bounty paid, investors are happy to gain profit.
Than, Tremiss - the project has only started and I was hired to write content about a month ago, what scum and what question for me?
Yes, I answered that Im a part of team, and I am-I am just a copyrighter that works for different projects. I am not founder or smth. Find a bigger goal for your harassment.

Should I continue? Or you will stop. If you wanna talk more-write in pm, not here. Cause BINcoin project has no deal with your faking acquisitions and bullying me.

[ICOEthics]

~...Tremiss - the project has only started and I was hired to write content...
Yes, I answered that Im a part of team...

We take that as a confession that you are part of the team - good reason to tag you as well.

Since you mentioned Tremiss. It is interesting how they switched team after exposed. You can go HERE and check yourself.

And now it appears that you requested a bumping service to activate, right? We can continue this conversation here:

SCAM ACCUSATION
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120221.0

[elaunchinfotech]

Hello All ,

As i have read conversation, some people have questions on Technical stack and security of Bincoin project . Let me explain You All .


Bincoin Blockchain Tools :

As we have mentioned in website, we used cryptonight classic algorithm along with cryptonote protocol.

**  CryptoNote supports Ring signatures  which used for untracable payment. Every Transaction verification process involves the public key of signer .

** Private transaction : Usually in other blockchain , any incoming transactions can be check , even if they are hidden using ring signature. But in our blockchain , user can create multiple hundreds of keys and send them to payer privately. All this keys are connected with your single public address. 

** Double spending Proof :  if any user create more than one ring signature using one private key , all these singatures can be linked together which idicates double spending attempt.This functions restricts a signer's anonymity. Along with this , cryptonote have one special marker for signing , its call Key image . key image is unavoidable, unambiguous and yet an anonymous marker of the private key. Using this Image , its impossible to recover private key. This is very important in any blockchain tools .

** CryptoNote have Smooth Emissive curve . because it have standard transaction process. protocol finds his best and fastest way to transact within blockchain.

** POW : We have used cryptonight algorithm in Which Mining can be happen with CPU , GPU as well ASIC . Though it restricts ASIC , But You can Mine it .

=====

QT Wallet :  We have Secured and Tested QT Wallet for linux , Windows and Mac .

====

Web Wallet :

we have used Secured MVC Platform of PHP . we have compiled Core wallet and Used RPC  API Calling for transactions. All this transaction can be traced in Explorer .
User can Buy Sell Bincoins using credit card , debit cards .
User can convert Bin to USD . and refill the BIN Card .This BIN Card will be used in ATM to  withdraw USD in Cash .

====

App Wallet :

we have used Kotlin ( Latest Android Framework )  for Android App Wallet  and SWIFT programming langugae for IOS . We used RPC API calls for send and recieve . We have App wallet and Web Wallet connected with each other same like other famous projects like XAPO and many more .

So All activity can be traced with both Platform .

Pay Chat : User can chat with other user . and Send BIN . Once user send BIN , RPC API Calls and funded to other user's address . this activity can be traced in Explorer as well . we used socket programming for peer to peer communication between users .

====

BIN Payment :

This portal can be used for Multi purpose in retail payment , POS , Invoice and many more .
User can create API Services and use it in their own portal for accept bincoins or many other famous cryptos that are listed with binpayment.com

====

Bin Exchange :

This Portal is developed in Angular ( Most Famous and trusted technology stack now a days ) . Same Like Binance , we are using AWS Cloud base solution along with angular . Our Exchange is tested with Millions of Loads and Security Tools .


I would like to hear from your about any technical query relates to Bincoin .

Thank You !

[BINcoinSupport]

Lot’s of you were considered about BINcoin credit cards as well as Visa issues💳There is some kind of stereotype in crypto community that VISA don’t work with crypto and not going to. However, recent events suggest otherwise➡️

#VISA Corporation will launch a new crypto division, and they are looking for employees. The site smartrecruiters.com posted a vacancy manager responsible for developing the strategy of the corporation for the cryptocurrency ecosystem development👉🏼 https://coingape.com/visa-fintech-build-visa-crypto-team/

[PrivateEnemy]

BINcoin has been added on #COINCODEX portal with 4.7 rating https://coincodex.com/ico/bincoin/
My congratulations to the team

[ICOEthics]

THIS IS A SCAM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120221.0

[BINcoins]

Hello
Here we will place all the evidence of that BINcoin project is not a scam.
First of all, we ask you to read everything with an open mind, explore all the evidence carefully and act like a clever and adult community.

1. Fake team member - Melissa Rauch. Here we should admit that we had no idea she has a fake account. We contacted her through the telegram and thought that she is a good sales manager. We do apologize for this misunderstanding and really sad that our credulity has lead to such crazy consequence. Now we can say that all business with her is over. We deleted her from our website - what you can easily check via link. https://bincoins.io

2. Our CEO Mr. Bintolsky - is fully transparent. You can follow the link and ask all the questions you wanna know in his LinkedIn-https://www.linkedin.com/in/leonard-bintolsky-68291217b/. Regarding the question of our registration, Mr. Leonard provided all the pavement, which you can also observe via link https://suite.endole.co.uk/insight/company/11766569-bin-coin-limited.

3. With regard to all the team members - we are fully transparent for you. Please, feel free to communicate with us privately/via skype call etc. We have nothing to hide at all.

4. Buucoin or smth. We don't relate to that project. Your acquisition is based on a misprint and if you are really for justice, you will understand that it is not a prove, its just someones fantasy. Maybe someone always wanted to become a detective, idk.

5. Lets move to a "Scum" term. Scam (fraud - from English. Haz. Scam, fraud) - is an investment tool, which for some reason has ceased to fulfill the obligation to investors. Please find me at least one investor whos rights have been violated. Until then - you don't have a right to call us Scum and disgrace participants. BINcoin project has ready products like BIN Pay Chat, BIN Wallets available for download for Mac, Linux, Windows. The mobile application is available for Android and Mac. All these tools are already working. Our users are already mining BIN coins. So please, how can you call a totally working project scam?

6. Finally, we asking you to stop stalking team members. They are just doing their jobs and dont have to face all this hate from forum members for no reason.

If you have anything else to say - feel free to ask here or write a pm. You can also contact us in skype - we are not afraid, cause we are totally legal and functionating project.

We also asking to delete this thread and falce comments. Please, do like adults and clever ones, you can see that we are not scum, its obvious for all  thinking people and stop turning this forum to a place of miserable hate, stalking and greed.

[sockpuppet1911]

Our team consists of real people, who make mistakes sometimes. You can communicate with each person of our team in social media, you can also explore the KYC passed on ICObench https://icobench.com/ico/bincoin - that proves our words.

Icobench is known for promoting scams and removing them from their site after the exit scams, so that doesn't really help. They don't care, as long as they are getting paid.

[BINcoins]

Dear bitcointalk community!

We have made our own investigation regarding buucoin and now we are ready to share with you an interview of the development company that we hired. The explanation is in the video format so you could make sure, that this all is real https://youtu.be/OYhz_tMqGb0

We, as BINcoin organizations understand that we are responsible for this. We should check everything more carefully at the beginning. We are very sorry for this situation and we hope that now everything will be clear for you like it became for us.

We are here not for investments, we are self-made project, we’ve already developed all the products and now we are here for your trust. We are fighting for it, cause all we need is community who would appreciate our work and use our service.

We kindly asking you not to blame marketing and management teams. They did nothing wrong. We also apologize for the situation with Melissa-we are honest people and thought that everyone is doing in a same way. We’ve already deleted this person from site and from the company.

Our only plea now is to watch the video and make sure that we are telling the truth.

With regard to conference that you have spoken about, you can also watch the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGxR_N6hYkk )so you can make sure this wasn’t any spectacle or Smith, but real presentation.

Best regards,
BINcoin team!

[ICOEthics]

More evidence found associating this SCAM with Buucoin scam:

~


archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20190325192021/https://github.com/bincoininc/BIN

BinCoin Github: https://github.com/bincoininc/BIN
Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20190327005542/https://github.com/bincoininc/BIN

BuuCoin Github: https://github.com/nebcoin/BUUCOIN
Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20190327005553/https://github.com/nebcoin/BUUCOIN

Follow this SCAM investigation here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120221.0

[Hellboy1337]

More evidence found associating this SCAM with Buucoin scam:

~


archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20190325192021/https://github.com/bincoininc/BIN

BinCoin Github: https://github.com/bincoininc/BIN
Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20190327005542/https://github.com/bincoininc/BIN

BuuCoin Github: https://github.com/nebcoin/BUUCOIN
Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20190327005553/https://github.com/nebcoin/BUUCOIN

Follow this SCAM investigation here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120221.0

Here's a video answer for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGxR_N6hYkk

[tmfp]

More evidence found associating this SCAM with Buucoin scam:

~
[img width=720 height=450]https://i.imgur.com/RRsQtYv.png[img]

archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20190325192021/https://github.com/bincoininc/BIN

[img width=1200]https://i.imgur.com/DEi2qMu.jpg[img]

BinCoin Github: https://github.com/bincoininc/BIN
Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20190327005542/https://github.com/bincoininc/BIN

BuuCoin Github: https://github.com/nebcoin/BUUCOIN
Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20190327005553/https://github.com/nebcoin/BUUCOIN

Follow this SCAM investigation here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120221.0

Here's a video answer for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGxR_N6hYkk

What's it to you, unless you're a probable alt account of the Deinas?
You already posted that video link two posts up.

[BINcoins]

DEAR BINCOIN COMMUNITY!

A little group of haters are trying to hurt our project for miserable reasons! We have answered all the questions and proved that BINCOIN PROJECT IS NOT A SCAM!! You can follow this link and read the whole conversation under which you will make sure we are telling the truth! We will be glad if you check that topic, read everything including videos, registration documents and our apologizing for mistakes we’ve made (yes, we are not pretending to be perfect, but we are real)



And for you «Super investigators» - stop terrorizing project, stop spamming and scamming. You are not professional auditors, you are just users with hidden faces! - your opinion is not relevant!

[JeromeTash]

You are not professional auditors, you are just users with hidden faces! - your opinion is not relevant!

Try harder next time. Not this time round.
Any sane person after going through this thread will obviously not waste time and money on your SCAM PROJECT
And yes, their Opinions are relevant to the community, Ofcourse not to you dumwits.

Have fun with your ICO, lets us know if it succeeds.

[ahmadakbari]

DEAR BINCOIN COMMUNITY!

A little group of haters are trying to hurt our project for miserable reasons! We have answered all the questions and proved that BINCOIN PROJECT IS NOT A SCAM!! You can follow this link and read the whole conversation under which you will make sure we are telling the truth! We will be glad if you check that topic, read everything including videos, registration documents and our apologizing for mistakes we’ve made (yes, we are not pretending to be perfect, but we are real)



And for you «Super investigators» - stop terrorizing project, stop spamming and scamming. You are not professional auditors, you are just users with hidden faces! - your opinion is not relevant!

It's the first time I've seen a member in the forum with such a negative trust. The community has founded this project scam. Do not try to convince the people. It doesn't work.