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[BINcoins]

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is it will be ok if I'll write a review of your wallet, for MAC?

yes. Actually it would be great!
We will wait for the results of your testing

[BINcoins]

Hello!
Yes, you already can download Android version via link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bincoin

We will be waiting for your tests and opinion regarding our service

I liked the design) Simple and stylish. I love the design in dark colors) And the BIN Wallet logo is also very beautiful.

Dear sambuddha!
We are very happy that you like our work!
Thank you for your opinion.

Best regards!

[BINcoins]

So when can i order that card? Button doesn't seem to work yet or there's something wrong with my browser.

Hello, sockpuppet1911!

According to our roadmap, the issue of BINcards would be in June 2019. So you will be able to order it a little bit later. Follow the news, we will tell when this option will be available.

Best regards!

And to apply for the debit card, will it be 20 BIN Coins? Will the debit card for recharge be only with coins BIN or can it recharge with eg ETH?

with BINcoins for now

[PrivateEnemy]

Oh come on, it's rather difficult to accidentally miss my post, four posts above this? I started to wonder if you deliberately "missing" certain posts as you somehow always failed to reply around same subject. There's nothing to hide, right? Everything is legit and it is an easy task to address my concern, right?

I think that there is some kind of misunderstanding happened. We asked you to contact our security specialist so he would give you all the details. However, as far as I understand, you just explored his LinkedIn page and that’s all. Now I’ll try to explain everything one more time.

Pavel Skybin is our security manager, who works on our software and knows all the details regarding audits etc. On LinkedIn it is mentioned that he works with BINcoin project.
With regard to the resume, he is a high-level professional, who doesn’t have much time for social media and representing. But you can find part of his experience on his linkedIn page.

Besides Pavel, our soft has been audited by an independent auditor - Yurii Bykov. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MWUR0H9Gvhl9A9V0RjQfg1qdSPWJTInx/view?usp=sharing)

The thing is, we don’t choose team members as well as auditors, who are considered on their appearance in social media like LinkedIn, but on their professional achievements. And we are sorry that you couldn’t find all the info at once.

We wish you a good day! If you’ll have more questions, please ask here or in private messages-so we could answer faster.
Have a nice day!

Just to clear the situation here and bitch a little bit --in regards to the text I bolded--, I am aware that Mr. Skybin just added detail about his employment with your company within these past days. I know because I rather memorized his linkedin page, kinda know when the consistency of his employment history changed, so I believe he added it as per my inquiry, thus stating a small "We are aware of this issue, will ask Mr. Skybin to add the detail" will look more nice instead of saying the sentence I bolded which implied that I somehow failed to read what was "there". Small issue, aired, let's move on.

In regards to Mr. Bykov, that's a little bit better, having an external auditor that list his resume as "independent auditor". I am sure he is not the only "World class researchers" you refer to on the opening post? Is there another auditor I should know about?

As you have noticed, we are in a developing process and yes, sometimes we find our gaps in something so unimportant for software specialist, like linkedIn page. And we are grateful for you in particular for making a point.

With regard to another audits, of corce we will do more of them as well as invite independent experts. But this will be possible after all the products would be issued

To date, our experts and auditors have done their work carefully and fundamentally.  As far as the main products would be developed, we will make another audit with another experts. And of corse we will let our community know about it in social media and on the website.

Hope that we’ve answered on all your questions so far.

So, to conclude, how many auditors do auditing your security up to this day? Only Mr. Bykov? It will be a pleasure for me if I can get their names, for the sake of due-dilligence.

I see that Bincoin has a strong team and they do not shame to show themselves. Also Bincoin has a ready product.

Not agree. About a half of team members looks fake. And a word about genius naming.

~snip~

Moreover, if you don’t trust the site, check ICO trackers like icoholder and find out that we all passing the verification + soon we will pass the verification process on the ICObench.

~snip~

And then, there is this... proud statement of being listed on ICOHolder and, soon, ICOBench. Yeah, I personally think it's a good way to kill trust.

wow...very weird point of view.
personally, I think that passing verification on above-mentioned portals - is a big plus to trust, cause all the team is represented clearly. I don't know why, but I can see that you just split hairs here. Look, the guys do a good job, lets be happy that truthful and useful projects still exist

[StephenJH]

Debit cards are not stable in many companies due to reasons behind the VISA and its sister companies. Wirex cards are only one that works flawless as far as i know from the feedback of other users. Is situation same with your cards?

[CaVO32]

wow...very weird point of view.
personally, I think that passing verification on above-mentioned portals - is a big plus to trust, cause all the team is represented clearly. I don't know why, but I can see that you just split hairs here. Look, the guys do a good job, lets be happy that truthful and useful projects still exist

this forum is open to all criticisms. so don't be surprised with discussions like this between holydarkness and BINcoins. 

if the dev team has strong grounds and they are confident with themselves, nothing to worry about. they can always address those questions directed to them. it will also show how robust the platform is. if they can overcome individuals like holydarkness, then i would say, they pretty conquer other major obstacles on their way.

[SixFigures]

Debit cards are not stable in many companies due to reasons behind the VISA and its sister companies. Wirex cards are only one that works flawless as far as i know from the feedback of other users. Is situation same with your cards?

But have you had problems with VISA in the past? You could have the same problems with Wirex if they decide to block your card or a transaction or want authorization before they send the debit, although that can be considered a security feature which these cards should have for larger amounts.

[holydarkness]

wow...very weird point of view.
personally, I think that passing verification on above-mentioned portals - is a big plus to trust, cause all the team is represented clearly. I don't know why, but I can see that you just split hairs here. Look, the guys do a good job, lets be happy that truthful and useful projects still exist

Ah well, I would rather not counting on ICO "review" portals, as most of them are either paid promote or doesn't really do their research deeply, passing ratings with a somewhat rather weak bases. And I see that I'm not alone on thinking so.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1139440
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1206615

If I also may point out one of their attempt to explain how their "research" ends in an unexpected way:

The data for the rating is cross-referenced from different sources. The project Yudi Token, for example, received a 4.7, as it is aggregated on all other sites with an average rate 4.7. When we figured out that it is a scam and team members have fake accounts, we updated the information immediately and placed a note: "Warning. It may be a Scam". Officium project was also marked with a Scam Warning.
Our experts do not make any ratings. It is aggregated using information from all rating sites. The rating may rise or fall and, generally speaking, change during an ICO.

~snip~

Can you guarantee that same thing won't happen to this project? That it won't, for unforeseen reason, ends up as a bad or even scam project "during an ICO" after more and more evidences are given by cryptocommunity, namely us? A DYOR is always the best way to judge a project, and what I do here is merely giving as many materials for whoever interested on this project. If they are legit, and have nothing to hide, then they surely can easily answer my questions and provide the evidences asked, otherwise they'll stutter. And rest assured, if they turn to be legit, I'm more than happy to stop bombarding questions (and move to pester other project, lol).

If you have a reason for being already so loyal with the project? Finished conducting DYOR perhaps? If so, and you could vouch for them, then kindly give your ID to be hold as collateral and to be hold as responsible if this project gone wrong, and I'll happily apologize for the statement I said on previous post. Otherwise, let this split hair do whatever it want to do.

this forum is open to all criticisms. so don't be surprised with discussions like this between holydarkness and BINcoins.  

if the dev team has strong grounds and they are confident with themselves, nothing to worry about. they can always address those questions directed to them. it will also show how robust the platform is. if they can overcome individuals like holydarkness, then i would say, they pretty conquer other major obstacles on their way.

My thoughts exactly. If they are legit and have nothing to hide, or... to borrow your word, robust, then my annoying questions are nothing for them

[PrivateEnemy]

Debit cards are not stable in many companies due to reasons behind the VISA and its sister companies. Wirex cards are only one that works flawlessly as far as i know from the feedback of other users. Is situation same with your cards?

wirex..is not that bad i guess

[BINcoins]

Debit cards are not stable in many companies due to reasons behind the VISA and its sister companies. Wirex cards are only one that works flawless as far as i know from the feedback of other users. Is situation same with your cards?

hello StephenJH
Our agreement with "Contis Financial Services Ltd" is going to provide all our users with the stable as well as flawless work of debit cards. With regard to Wirex, this company may show good results now, however they are too young and they haven't gain so much trust.

[BINcoins]

So, to conclude, how many auditors do auditing your security up to this day? Only Mr. Bykov? It will be a pleasure for me if I can get their names, for the sake of due-dilligence.




And then, there is this... proud statement of being listed on ICOHolder and, soon, ICOBench. Yeah, I personally think it's a good way to kill trust.

For now, our auditors are Mr. Bykov and Mr. Skybin.

As for ICOHolder and ICOBench, we are not responsible for the other projects or situation that "killed your trust", we just do all the necessary in the right way. We pass KYC, go through the verification in order to show that we are real and ready for adequate dialog in order to gain users trust.

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[sockpuppet1911]

Are you planning to list to other exchanges or will you keep this as an internal token on your exchange?

[BINcoins]

Are you planning to list to other exchanges or will you keep this as an internal token on your exchange?

Hello sockpuppet1911!
We are planning to list our token on the most popular crypto exchanges.

[BINcoins]

Dear BINcoin community!
We’ve got some exiting news for you👏🏼

Our development team has finally finished testing IOS Wallet soft and now it is available for download✅🚀

As is the case with Android APP, we kindly asking you to test our application and write your opinion in comments, cause itэs extremely important for us! And don’t forget to evaluate an app in the App Store📲

Download link👉🏼 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/bin-coin/id1455963307?ls=1&mt=8

[koldirkaev]

We kindly asking you not to throw around wild accusations at our team without any objective reasons.

But I did not raise any accusations, neither wild nor domestic. I just said they looks fake. I left myself the right to make mistakes. And yes, I have reason. Not objective but subjective. Zahar asked me once: Do I understand anything at all in marketing? So I decided to find out, maybe not, and maybe you are impeccable marketers?

Ok, for example, tell us a little about these people:

• Leonard Bintolsky
• Greg Linenfelser
• Michael Garcia

Who they are? Not legend. Just facts and links, we can prove. What we can learn on them from the web?

About iOS application. In terms of design, your developers are great. But the application is still buggy. I tried to pair it with web-wallet. Application throws me out from the Create PIN code screen.

In general it is good, that your developers are doing their best. But the algorithm used is hopelessly outdated. According info from developers its a little customized ASIC-friendly CryptoNight Classic. And generally it doesn't even matter, becouse of indecent, obscene premine. The only thing is your team doing right IMO is infrastructure. Wallets for all platforms, POS application is subject to my applause. But I would still like to see how it works. I wish you good luck, despite a lot of mistakes and wrong decisions (IMO) you made.

[BINcoins]

Hello koldirkaev!

Thank you for your opinion, we will continue improving our service and speak about our team in our social media.
Best regards

[holydarkness]

So, to conclude, how many auditors do auditing your security up to this day? Only Mr. Bykov? It will be a pleasure for me if I can get their names, for the sake of due-dilligence.




And then, there is this... proud statement of being listed on ICOHolder and, soon, ICOBench. Yeah, I personally think it's a good way to kill trust.

For now, our auditors are Mr. Bykov and Mr. Skybin.

As for ICOHolder and ICOBench, we are not responsible for the other projects or situation that "killed your trust", we just do all the necessary in the right way. We pass KYC, go through the verification in order to show that we are real and ready for adequate dialog in order to gain users trust.

Fair point for ICO reviewers, perhaps I am a bit too harsh and personal on it. Kindly accept my apology for the matter.

Moving forward with Mr. Bykov and Mr. Skybin, as your auditor were "only" these two users, with one being your staff taking care of security issue and the other just started his experience as independent auditor just on 2018, then I'd like to suggest you to revise your site and WP and OP about the claim of being audited by "World class researchers" because:

1. The plural form indicates that there were several entities doing regular checks for the security issue. Although two (2) is considered as more than singular (thus, plural), but the context of the announcement would lead people to assume there actually more than what is, like perhaps three to five entities at once. Thus, misleading.

2. The claim of world class researchers would clearly mislead people into trust and faith due to the (without any disrespect) lack of actual experience of the auditor themselves that's yet to prove themselves on worldwide scope, with one being freelancer of VBA and Phyton and the other as independent auditor within one year. I didn't find any detail on how their past experience could entitle them with "world class" calibre. Or, is there an article about their past experience and reputation to banish my dispute?

[BINcoins]

So, to conclude, how many auditors do auditing your security up to this day? Only Mr. Bykov? It will be a pleasure for me if I can get their names, for the sake of due-dilligence.




And then, there is this... proud statement of being listed on ICOHolder and, soon, ICOBench. Yeah, I personally think it's a good way to kill trust.

For now, our auditors are Mr. Bykov and Mr. Skybin.

As for ICOHolder and ICOBench, we are not responsible for the other projects or situation that "killed your trust", we just do all the necessary in the right way. We pass KYC, go through the verification in order to show that we are real and ready for adequate dialog in order to gain users trust.

Fair point for ICO reviewers, perhaps I am a bit too harsh and personal on it. Kindly accept my apology for the matter.

Moving forward with Mr. Bykov and Mr. Skybin, as your auditor were "only" these two users, with one being your staff taking care of security issue and the other just started his experience as independent auditor just on 2018, then I'd like to suggest you to revise your site and WP and OP about the claim of being audited by "World class researchers" because:

1. The plural form indicates that there were several entities doing regular checks for the security issue. Although two (2) is considered as more than singular (thus, plural), but the context of the announcement would lead people to assume there actually more than what is, like perhaps three to five entities at once. Thus, misleading.

2. The claim of world class researchers would clearly mislead people into trust and faith due to the (without any disrespect) lack of actual experience of the auditor themselves that's yet to prove themselves on worldwide scope, with one being freelancer of VBA and Phyton and the other as independent auditor within one year. I didn't find any detail on how their past experience could entitle them with "world class" calibre. Or, is there an article about their past experience and reputation to banish my dispute?

It's okay, everyone has a right for a personal opinion
As we have said before, we will attract new auditors and place the information about them on our official social media as well as the website. We appreciate your attention to our project and we will fix the info until new audits would appear.

[tmfp]

Any reason/excuse/fairy story?