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March 21, 2019, 01:07:51 AM
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You paid for the coins or tokens and you can do whatever you like to do with them, if that is selling them at a lower price then you bought them, that would only be the owners choice and only him, of course there has to be buyers, but there is. It is frustrating but that's the part of the game here and with stocks.
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March 21, 2019, 01:35:28 AM
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I think there is a way to fix this dumping problem plaguing crypto space ,its very annoying to see dumpers dumping coins or tokens at a very lower price than that of the ICO price ,dumping kills coins easily ,I think developers should have some kind of deals with exchanges that won't allow people to dump coins at a particular price ,what are your thought?
This is decentralization at its full realization hence the market is set that traders are free to trade at what price they deem fit. I don't think any trader will intentionally dump a coin. The dumping of a coin has a triggering factor which in most circumstance from the creation of FUD. Some investors understand the need to hold after buying from ICO but once the FUD sets in, every investor intends to cut losses by selling at another low price.
I think the dumping must be addressed from this point of view instead of tampering with the decentralized nature of the market.
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March 21, 2019, 01:46:21 AM
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You paid for the coins or tokens and you can do whatever you like to do with them, if that is selling them at a lower price then you bought them, that would only be the owners choice and only him, of course there has to be buyers, but there is. It is frustrating but that's the part of the game here and with stocks.
I guess everyone already knows it. When many are selling and no buying then dump will definitely occur. We cannot anticipate it. where the ability to buy the market must be limited.

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March 21, 2019, 03:44:01 AM
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I think there is a way to fix this dumping problem plaguing crypto space ,its very annoying to see dumpers dumping coins or tokens at a very lower price than that of the ICO price ,dumping kills coins easily ,I think developers should have some kind of deals with exchanges that won't allow people to dump coins at a particular price ,what are your thought?
Exchange can't do this because people will sell it at the price they want and buyer will buy it at the place they want and so, when the seller and buyer met their both expectation,  there will be a transaction. If there is no meeting in the mind, there will be no trading that will happen.

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March 21, 2019, 04:01:08 AM
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Some strategies ICO projects use, they lock their tokens until MVP (Minimum Viable Product) is launched, give their token a utiity so hunters/investors at least give second thought before dumping.

Anyway, if someone is selling, someone is buying. I guess it's okay.

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March 21, 2019, 05:34:13 AM
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Some strategies ICO projects use, they lock their tokens until MVP (Minimum Viable Product) is launched, give their token a utiity so hunters/investors at least give second thought before dumping.

Anyway, if someone is selling, someone is buying. I guess it's okay.
It will only be okay if the cycle continues but there are instances where everyone sells but almost no one wants to buy and that stops everything.

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March 21, 2019, 05:43:12 AM
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I believe that the only true solution to this problem will be if the developers of the project will themselves buy some of their own coins from investors and bounty hunters. That is, they will be able to control the price of their coin on the exchange. This will be a good solution and all parties will benefit.

With the availability of funds for this, it would be a very good way. But devs often do not have enough money. In most cases, after receiving the money no one cares about the asset. So, this is the concern of investors.

This as a compromise solution is sometimes used:
The problem can be fixed within seconds and the best way to solve this is to share collected funds with bounty hunters. I mean paying them in ETH, BTC or whatever coin but not with your own one. But the most projects are too greedy for this.
But payment in $ equivalent is much less.

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March 21, 2019, 05:44:05 AM
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I think there is a way to fix this dumping problem plaguing crypto space ,its very annoying to see dumpers dumping coins or tokens at a very lower price than that of the ICO price ,dumping kills coins easily ,I think developers should have some kind of deals with exchanges that won't allow people to dump coins at a particular price ,what are your thought?
I have always doubted the fact that hunter derive pleasure in dumping tokens at a very low price until knew I heard from my friend who said she dump her bounty token at any price immediately they get it and even if the price goes up she doesn't regret then I understood how stupid many bounty hunters has become. When teams take drastic actions, we see it as a bad move but this hunters are just way very stupid

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March 22, 2019, 01:31:33 PM
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I think there is a way to fix this dumping problem plaguing crypto space ,its very annoying to see dumpers dumping coins or tokens at a very lower price than that of the ICO price ,dumping kills coins easily ,I think developers should have some kind of deals with exchanges that won't allow people to dump coins at a particular price ,what are your thought?
I have always doubted the fact that hunter derive pleasure in dumping tokens at a very low price until knew I heard from my friend who said she dump her bounty token at any price immediately they get it and even if the price goes up she doesn't regret then I understood how stupid many bounty hunters has become. When teams take drastic actions, we see it as a bad move but this hunters are just way very stupid
Sometimes, dumping is the best way for bounty hunters to survive and it serves as assurance that they are paid off with all there efforts. It may sound stupid for many but for them, that's the best thing to do at that moment.

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March 22, 2019, 04:49:48 PM
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What you are suggesting is impossible, exchange can't dictate the value at which a seller or buyer is willing to part with his or her asset, demands aren't high therefore dumping is indispensable in a market condition we are witnessing at the moment.
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March 22, 2019, 05:33:44 PM
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You can't manipulate the market. If they dump it's their decision. I think a good fix for this is either make token holders get profits from the token they are holding for example every month or the developers buy tokens from the profit they got from their platform.
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March 22, 2019, 06:06:50 PM
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So the problem is the people who dump their tokens or coins?
The devs and team have no responsibility? It's very simple to think like this and to encourage the creation of ICOs.
People wishing to do ICO should consider all post listing possibilities in some exchange.
Why do they supercharge the price on ICOs? Lack of transparency and reality for many projects.
Bitcoin is the target of speculators all the time and even having 'Bitcoins' in their hands they are trading for dollars.
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March 22, 2019, 08:02:24 PM
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The dumpers are always going to manifest, the creators of the projects can not control this type of behavior, there is only one way to try to control the dumpers, it is to place some conditions within the project where they limit the amount of tokens they use. You can receive if your balance is reduced by around 25% of what you should have.

Another way to avoid it is due to the degree of development found in the project or the fact that the white book has been promised that the currency or the token will reach a Level 1 Exchange, that way they can control the Dumpers a bit. and that is what very few projects apply, since it is very difficult to include them in level 1 exchanges.

Because at the moment of entering the dump, the project loses credibility in the investors, it is necessary apart from all this to have a support at an economic level by the team so that it does not fall completely.

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March 22, 2019, 08:15:07 PM
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What you suggest is just impossible to enforce.
Also, it completely goes against the idea of an open sourced, distributed, decentralized market.
We all love blockchain because it gives power back to the people.
It allows for direct p2p transactions to take place without the need for regulating middlemen.

So having an exchange set a specific price for it goes against everything that makes crypto great.

Unfortunately, we are in a market that is volatile and will continue to be.

However, you can still come out ahead if you educate yourself and study market patterns.

In the case of ICOs that you mentioned.
The simple solutions is: don't invest in ICOs.
For a full year it's been obvious that ICOs were no longer profitable.
If you really wanted to, then you would buy it after it gets dumped and the price crashed, not before.

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March 22, 2019, 08:57:28 PM
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You can't manipulate the market. If they dump it's their decision. I think a good fix for this is either make token holders get profits from the token they are holding for example every month or the developers buy tokens from the profit they got from their platform.
On this principle, it will also be possible to build a strong system for manipulating the cryptocurrency market. Where will the profit come from?

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March 22, 2019, 09:07:10 PM
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I think there is a way to fix this dumping problem plaguing crypto space ,its very annoying to see dumpers dumping coins or tokens at a very lower price than that of the ICO price ,dumping kills coins easily ,I think developers should have some kind of deals with exchanges that won't allow people to dump coins at a particular price ,what are your thought?

Project developers should develop a proof plan against dumping from presale, private sale investors and bounty hunters who usually dump their tokens on listing. Aergo and content protocol had such plan and they are currently doing massively well in the market 


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March 22, 2019, 09:58:32 PM
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You can't stop people from dumping coins especially people who got tokens in campaign. Company needs to have a decent plan on how to avoid their token getting dump but i think it's hard considering no one can easily manipulate the market. I had join some bounty campaigns that give their tokens in a weekly basis and some bounty hunters got furios because of it. Also it does not help because after each week that they gave the tokens. Someone will sell the tokens even below the price. If they want their token not to get dump. Development is the key to the success of the project.

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March 22, 2019, 10:02:57 PM
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It is very easy to blame bounty hunters when a token starts dumping but when we look closely, we can see that even projects that has not paid hunters still dump in price after listing, this is quite annoying, I usually wonder who sells below their buy price.
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March 22, 2019, 10:13:50 PM
Last edit: March 23, 2019, 02:24:14 PM by adzino
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I think there is a way to fix this dumping problem plaguing crypto space ,its very annoying to see dumpers dumping coins or tokens at a very lower price than that of the ICO price ,dumping kills coins easily ,I think developers should have some kind of deals with exchanges that won't allow people to dump coins at a particular price ,what are your thought?
Its actually those bounty hunters and those who received those coins for free dump the coin with a price that is lower than the ICO price. Well, there is a reason behind it. They worked for those tokens, kept on holding it until it was announced/listed on an exchange and then they sell it to make some quick bitcoin/profit. They mainly do that because most of them either don't know the real value of the coins or just don't want to risk losing any kind of its value in the future.
Just hold the coin for a while. If the price is meant to recover, it will recover.

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March 22, 2019, 10:15:03 PM
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ICOs that collected money in 2017 shouldn´t have any existing problems, but where are the products, where are the results? Why 99% of all ICOs are in silent mode?
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