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March 15, 2019, 10:00:58 PM Last edit: March 18, 2019, 02:56:42 PM by IdiotCoder |
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I have gotten some free web hosting space and a domain name. I wanted to create a forum - like the services section - in where members can find jobs paid in any kind of cryptocurrency. I want to do this because of the state of the services section - it is too cluttered and unorganized. I don't think I will have signature campaigns on the site since that is what Bitcointalk is for - posting in topics relating to btcoin you have a genuine interest in. I know there's XBTFreelancer and other sites like that but I like the forum format better. I will mod it to include a reputation system like this forum have I haven't given such a modification much thought but I want to be able to flag scammers, lazy employees, and people who are unqualified to do the job. My questions are: would you use it and does it serve a good purpose? EDIT: Link to demo https://basicssoft.com/phpbb
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If it looked nice and had traffic I would certainly use it. If it operated like an Ebay but for services then I think it could be successful. However user liquidity will be important, you need people to offer services but also need daily visitors of people who are looking for cryptocurrency related services.
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Definitely a yes from me, but if you're not going to entertain signature campaigns, will you also not be supporting bounties (as they're seen more as a job and very time-consuming if done for too many projects).
Your intention is great to keep scammers away as well as don't pay lazy guys who can't really manage to do anything but waste employers time, but trust me you'll really need good space for that forum to work smooth as if you're expecting people from Bitcointalk to hover at your place, you must be knowing what amount of audience you'll be entertaining and the hardest job after that will be to keep your forum free from those who won't really give anything after having their work done. It'd be great if you hire a reputed member of this forum at your place to work as an escrow and keep some funds from employers and release it to employees after the job done (although, even this is a win-win for employers as they can say that their given work hasn't been completed as expected and they get their BTC back).
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March 15, 2019, 10:38:18 PM Last edit: March 16, 2019, 03:55:47 PM by IdiotCoder |
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Definitely a yes from me, but if you're not going to entertain signature campaigns, will you also not be supporting bounties (as they're seen more as a job and very time-consuming if done for too many projects).
Your intention is great to keep scammers away as well as don't pay lazy guys who can't really manage to do anything but waste employers time, but trust me you'll really need good space for that forum to work smooth as if you're expecting people from Bitcointalk to hover at your place, you must be knowing what amount of audience you'll be entertaining and the hardest job after that will be to keep your forum free from those who won't really give anything after having their work done. It'd be great if you hire a reputed member of this forum at your place to work as an escrow and keep some funds from employers and release it to employees after the job done (although, even this is a win-win for employers as they can say that their given work hasn't been completed as expected and they get their BTC back).
I like your idea of hiring an escrow from here to make sure nobody gets scammed. I will support bounties as they can be good for say a programmer who needs to have a bug in their code fixed and are willing to pay to fix their issue (as I'm still a student developer who doesn't want to post their problem on Stackoverflow sometimes, or just have a deadline they just have to meet). Thanks for the feedback.
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March 15, 2019, 11:30:55 PM |
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My questions are: would you use it and does it serve a good purpose?
Absolutely yes on my side and i do somehow agree about on the "organized" thing on services section of this forum but people already get used to it even its isnt arranged but overall people will able to seek out on. Traffic or gaining users would be the biggest challenge for you yet you had mentioned that you wont support Signature campaigns/Bounties which most people on this forum do really seeks out and with that alone you already lose big percentage.
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March 16, 2019, 12:04:22 AM |
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My questions are: would you use it and does it serve a good purpose?
Absolutely yes on my side and i do somehow agree about on the "organized" thing on services section of this forum but people already get used to it even its isnt arranged but overall people will able to seek out on. Traffic or gaining users would be the biggest challenge for you yet you had mentioned that you wont support Signature campaigns/Bounties which most people on this forum do really seeks out and with that alone you already lose big percentage. Are you saying it would be more appealing if it had signed campaigns?
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March 16, 2019, 12:39:21 AM |
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My questions are: would you use it and does it serve a good purpose?
I wouldn't use it. More choice at a larger job board, and anyone knowing my requested skills would accept bitcoin.
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March 16, 2019, 01:06:26 AM |
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My questions are: would you use it and does it serve a good purpose?
Absolutely yes on my side and i do somehow agree about on the "organized" thing on services section of this forum but people already get used to it even its isnt arranged but overall people will able to seek out on. Traffic or gaining users would be the biggest challenge for you yet you had mentioned that you wont support Signature campaigns/Bounties which most people on this forum do really seeks out and with that alone you already lose big percentage. Are you saying it would be more appealing if it had signed campaigns? Not necessarily but if you tend to look on the current board of this forum you will really see the things much preferred as Vod said larger board do have more choices.So, you main problem is on how to make it big. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Just some input on this. I was looking at starting something very similar so if you want any help give me a shout, I'm not good with coding stuff from crap but know some basic PHP CSS HTML and stuff. I also have access to a server so if you need some better hosting let me know, I've run my digital marketing company for six years now so no fear of your hosting ever vanishing and I have pretty good up time too.
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March 16, 2019, 02:40:45 AM |
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The problem would be promoting that forum since there already are a few websites with the same concept and also most people come to bitcoin to sell or request different services. If you could convince people to go to your website and post their services there and also promote it so that workers could find clients this could work. But still, creating a forum just for bitcoin jobs is not a great idea and it will probably take a long time until it can get popular enough.
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March 16, 2019, 04:00:41 AM |
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Are you talking about making a forum dedicated to job posting, or a service like recruitment agencies offer, which is companies come over to the agencies/platforms and get them to post their jobs there, and they sift through the job applications until they find one suitable for the client?
If you are recreating, and basically making the bitcointalk services thread with a better UI, you need to actually build a reputation and find companies/users that are looking to hire people. There are a lot of people posting job offers, but not a lot of clients that need them on bitcointalk.
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I have gotten some free web hosting space and a domain name.
i find two things bad about this idea which if they changed i would be more willing to use it. 1. the "forum" part, which i don't get. there is no reason for it to be like a forum in my opinion. it needs to be like a job "board" instead it can have two sections one where people post jobs and the other where people post their skills and what they are willing to do. 2. the "free part". the website needs to look serious from day one for people to go there. nobody is going to bother creating an account on a website that is using free hosting and domain which can go away tomorrow! not to mention that these things don't get high ranks in search engines!
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March 16, 2019, 07:29:51 AM |
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I have ..
Take a look at the Service section we have in itself - it doesn't get nearly enough traffic to sustain a forum like business model. If you plan to earn from it - that might not happen anytime soon.
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My advice is you need to start it right away and don't wait too long. And if the website is ready to use, then you can announce here to invite people to join in your new forum. And if they think that people can get more benefits to stay in your forum, then I am sure that there will be many others will come to the forum.
I will wait and I am sure that other members here will wait for your new forum so they can visit and give a suggestion for the forum. So it's time for you to start something different if you have an idea to make a forum. But I suggest you don't use the free web hosting and free domain name because it does not look elegant.
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Here's the demo: https://basicssoft.com/phpbb/If you're interested in helping me administer the forum, PM me. I can't offer money right now because I'm broke, but if there are any paid staffing jobs in there future I will announce it
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Sure I think it would help a lot specially for the people who only earns in crypto,or those who make crypto their main job or source of income. I hope that you could add more job in your forum .
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Here's the demo: https://basicssoft.com/phpbb/If you're interested in helping me administer the forum, PM me. I can't offer money right now because I'm broke, but if there are any paid staffing jobs in there future I will announce it There will never be any paid staffing jobs, because that would affect your government welfare, correct?
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Here's the demo: https://basicssoft.com/phpbb/If you're interested in helping me administer the forum, PM me. I can't offer money right now because I'm broke, but if there are any paid staffing jobs in there future I will announce it There will never be any paid staffing jobs, because that would affect your government welfare, correct? Don't you know how Revenue Canada classifies Bitcoin? As far as I know, Bitcoin isn't taxable.
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I know there's XBTFreelancer and other sites like that but I like the forum format better.
Your subjective opinion doesn't make this a good idea, in fact, as it stands now your concept sounds terribly inefficient and very cost intensive. I want to do this because of the state of the services section - it is too cluttered and unorganized.
The services section is quite cluttered indeed but replacing that with your forum alternative is only going to partially solve this issue. I'm assuming you're going to make a bunch of sub-fora for each specific job branch. Now this will make things a little bit more organized but still inferior compared to concepts like XBTFreelancer. Since those sites allow you to set specific tags for each gig. That way it's very easy for the freelancer to filter out the gigs that aren't in accordance with their skillset. You could even go as far allowing the freelancer to set default tags on their profile and notify them when a new gig, that fits their criteria, is posted onto the platform. On your forum, on the other hand, freelancers will have to continuously browse the forum (or multiple subfora) for new jobs. Which for obvious reasons is extremely time inefficient. I will mod it to include a reputation system like this forum have I haven't given such a modification much thought but I want to be able to flag scammers, lazy employees, and people who are unqualified to do the job.
I hope you realize this will either require a lot of work or cost a whole lot of money (given this gains traction in the first place). You could avoid unnecessary costs by leaving the majority of the work to the users. For example: After the gig is posted onto the platform freelancers have a certain timeframe to apply for the job. When the timeframe is over the creator of the gig can go through the applications and select a freelancer, based on rating or work history or whatever. This action creates a private environment where the freelancer can view the job details, the creator and the freelancer can interact with one another. The funds are held by the platform and can be released upon request by the creator of the gig (If the creator is not satisfied with the work he/she can open a dispute and the staff will review the case). At the end of the process, the creator of the gig can rate the performance of the freelancer and leave a review. My questions are: would you use it and does it serve a good purpose?
It does serve a good purpose (you're trying to employ people) but if you're determined to stick with the whole forum idea it would be a definite no for me.
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I like the idea but why you need forum for this can just make an app where cryptocurrency can pay employees directly or app that offers job for cryptocurrency only advertising.
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