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April 19, 2019, 01:06:57 AM
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Show me the numbers for how AMD polaris has the best price performance.

https://whattomine.com/coins/151-eth-ethash?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=30&p=130&fee=2&cost=0.1&hcost=100&commit=Calculate

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April 19, 2019, 12:52:00 PM
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Using your numbers with whattomine I get the following:

1x rx580 8gb daily return mining Ethash @ 130 watts:
$0.46 revenue
$0.14 profit

1x 1660 or 1660ti or 1070 or P106-100 daily return mining RVN @ 106 watts:
$0.64 revenue
$0.38 profit

Used P106-100 are the same price as used Rx580 8gb; its a no brainer: over 2x profit and way more mineable algos.

New rx580 8gb are $180 lowest I can find.  The second you buy this, its resale value is $100.

New 1660s are $220 and its resale value is $200 at worst; its a no brainer.


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April 19, 2019, 01:11:14 PM
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Using your numbers with whattomine I get the following:

1x rx580 8gb daily return mining Ethash @ 130 watts:
$0.46 revenue
$0.14 profit

1x 1660 or 1660ti or 1070 or P106-100 daily return mining RVN @ 106 watts:
$0.64 revenue
$0.38 profit

Used P106-100 are the same price as used Rx580 8gb; its a no brainer: over 2x profit and way more mineable algos.

New rx580 8gb are $180 lowest I can find.  The second you buy this, its resale value is $100.

New 1660s are $220 and its resale value is $200 at worst; its a no brainer.




That's the big issue (bolded), rx cards are so flooded on the second hand market, I could hardly even sell a like new rx470, they're not even worth $100 these days lol -- and this point is profits aside

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April 19, 2019, 07:59:56 PM
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But buying 2nd hand cards is high risk and pure gamble. You can get broken parts, or simply nothing. And this will drop your profits massively.
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April 19, 2019, 08:09:13 PM
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If somebody can't find a new rx 570 for $100 then is their fault, it was sold in retail stores for a long time at that price.

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Made a couple of adjustments:
Those 1660TI are looking really, really good...



And while some get better results at lower PL ratings, over a longer average, with my rigs, I find these numbers close to my averages - on the GPUs I have, 1070, 1070TI and 1660TI.

And yes, tuning your rigs can gain you 5-10% improvement on ROI. Also, I strongly recommend looking at your Electric bill. I live in Chicago and changed from Com Ed's "fixed rate" to "daily live pricing" and over the past year have saved about 16% - literately thousands of dollars.

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April 19, 2019, 11:09:00 PM
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But buying 2nd hand cards is high risk and pure gamble. You can get broken parts, or simply nothing. And this will drop your profits massively.

I prefer buying new GPUs myself. 

Buying used GPUs is not a pure gamble when you know the person you're buying from.

Newbie accounts with no trust; or eBay sellers posting a single pic for 150 GPUs: yes that is high risk.

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April 19, 2019, 11:09:55 PM
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If somebody can't find a new rx 570 for $100 then is their fault, it was sold in retail stores for a long time at that price.

Show me one link with an rx570 8gb or rx580 8gb for anywhere near $100 new.

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April 19, 2019, 11:13:45 PM
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Made a couple of adjustments:
Those 1660TI are looking really, really good...

And while some get better results at lower PL ratings, over a longer average, with my rigs, I find these numbers close to my averages - on the GPUs I have, 1070, 1070TI and 1660TI.

And yes, tuning your rigs can gain you 5-10% improvement on ROI. Also, I strongly recommend looking at your Electric bill. I live in Chicago and changed from Com Ed's "fixed rate" to "daily live pricing" and over the past year have saved about 16% - literately thousands of dollars.

I find 106 watt powerlimit, 100 OC core clock and 500 OC memory clock is best over time for 1660 or 1660ti or 1070 or P106-100.

I strongly suggest you get a 1660; it performs almost identically to the 1660ti with RVN and costs $60 less.


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April 19, 2019, 11:14:09 PM
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If somebody can't find a new rx 570 for $100 then is their fault, it was sold in retail stores for a long time at that price.

Show me one link with an rx570 8gb or rx580 8gb for anywhere near $100 new.

As per my post, " it was sold in retail stores for a long time at that price.".

https://wccftech.com/score-a-sapphire-radeon-rx-570-4gb-right-now-for-only-99/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdUAecssqAg
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/a7i5so/is_this_worth_it_sub_100usd_brand_new_rx_470_4gb/

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April 19, 2019, 11:19:13 PM
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If somebody can't find a new rx 570 for $100 then is their fault, it was sold in retail stores for a long time at that price.

Show me one link with an rx570 8gb or rx580 8gb for anywhere near $100 new.

As per my post, " it was sold in retail stores for a long time at that price.".

https://wccftech.com/score-a-sapphire-radeon-rx-570-4gb-right-now-for-only-99/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdUAecssqAg
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/a7i5so/is_this_worth_it_sub_100usd_brand_new_rx_470_4gb/

Those are 4gb.

Even if they were 8gb; you can't use old prices to justify your reasoning.


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April 19, 2019, 11:46:22 PM
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Those are 4gb.

Even if they were 8gb; you can't use old prices to justify your reasoning.

A 4GB has no difference on hashrate.

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April 19, 2019, 11:47:58 PM
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Those are 4gb.

Even if they were 8gb; you can't use old prices to justify your reasoning.

A 4GB has no difference on hashrate.

It will soon not be able to mine Ethash; and its resale value is significantly less.

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April 20, 2019, 12:05:39 AM
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Those are 4gb.

Even if they were 8gb; you can't use old prices to justify your reasoning.

A 4GB has no difference on hashrate.

It will soon not be able to mine Ethash; and its resale value is significantly less.

https://investoon.com/tools/dag_size

4gb 17/DEC/2020

eth will move to progpow which will already turn it useless x nvidia. AMD cards will move to other coins example, monero which at moment gives the same value as mining eth and memory wise will never die off as monero can be mined with less than 1gb memory.

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April 20, 2019, 12:50:27 PM
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Those are 4gb.

Even if they were 8gb; you can't use old prices to justify your reasoning.

A 4GB has no difference on hashrate.

It will soon not be able to mine Ethash; and its resale value is significantly less.

https://investoon.com/tools/dag_size

4gb 17/DEC/2020

eth will move to progpow which will already turn it useless x nvidia. AMD cards will move to other coins example, monero which at moment gives the same value as mining eth and memory wise will never die off as monero can be mined with less than 1gb memory.

4gb GPUs have less resale value than 8gb.

Yes progpow will make AMD useless for ETH as well.

Which is why I told you earier:

If you really only want to mine XMR; sure get an AMD GPU.


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April 20, 2019, 07:01:47 PM
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I have one EVGA GTX 1660 TI single fan model and I am thinking about picking up a couple more, I was thinking about the 1660 model but I do like the idea of having faster memory bandwidth for those algos that require it.  Do you guys like the two fan models or do you find the single fan models to be adequate for your cooling and overclock needs?

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April 20, 2019, 07:05:38 PM
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I have one EVGA GTX 1660 TI single fan model and I am thinking about picking up a couple more, I was thinking about the 1660 model but I do like the idea of having faster memory bandwidth for those algos that require it.  Do you guys like the two fan models or do you find the single fan models to be adequate for your cooling and overclock needs?

That 3-slot EVGA 1 fan editions are great for mining and cool enough. But the resale value of 2 or 3 fan cards are higher, because its more the style of "Gamers". Also every blinki LED shit is a good bonus on top.
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April 20, 2019, 07:55:54 PM
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I have one EVGA GTX 1660 TI single fan model and I am thinking about picking up a couple more, I was thinking about the 1660 model but I do like the idea of having faster memory bandwidth for those algos that require it.  Do you guys like the two fan models or do you find the single fan models to be adequate for your cooling and overclock needs?

That 3-slot EVGA 1 fan editions are great for mining and cool enough. But the resale value of 2 or 3 fan cards are higher, because its more the style of "Gamers". Also every blinki LED shit is a good bonus on top.

Thanks for the feedback, that makes me more inclined to stick with the single fan fat heatsink cards although I may pick up one of those MSI two fan versions for the same price just to compare.

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April 20, 2019, 08:14:55 PM
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Those are 4gb.

Even if they were 8gb; you can't use old prices to justify your reasoning.

A 4GB has no difference on hashrate.

It will soon not be able to mine Ethash; and its resale value is significantly less.

Prices have already fallen in anticipation of changes. But it is necessary to calculate economically, he may have to wait a bit when newer options to mine its become cheaper.
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April 21, 2019, 01:41:41 PM
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Using your numbers with whattomine I get the following:

1x rx580 8gb daily return mining Ethash @ 130 watts:
$0.46 revenue
$0.14 profit

1x 1660 or 1660ti or 1070 or P106-100 daily return mining RVN @ 106 watts:
$0.64 revenue
$0.38 profit

Used P106-100 are the same price as used Rx580 8gb; its a no brainer: over 2x profit and way more mineable algos.

New rx580 8gb are $180 lowest I can find.  The second you buy this, its resale value is $100.

New 1660s are $220 and its resale value is $200 at worst; its a no brainer.


rx vega 56 @240$ second hand doing 1,3$/day merged mining,  power consumption around 0.3$
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and just to remember, not all algo showing on whattomine
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