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March 18, 2019, 07:13:47 AM
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At first, this thread aims to somewhat find a gambling site that make an activity such as doing charities with the help of their money came from bets of the users. As I have known that there we're only few, it's not a bad thing though, atleast there were one or two making this happen.

As a fellow gambler of some gambling sites, I created and started a project in which will do a charity for the homeless, sick people, calamity victims and other people that need the help. In my case, for every play and winnings, I'll share it to the project.And also, I want this to be a way of introducing crypto to the community.

Besides, here in our country, crypto have a really bad background due to scammers abused it back then. And now I'm planning on having my claims on faucets and gambling winnings to be on these plan.

Note: No one is enforcing you to make charity or donate, if you don't feel like donating then don't. Just enjoy your money, that's all.

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March 18, 2019, 08:34:12 AM
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Every Legitimate Casino Platform should allot a fund for social obligation. A good example is a charity based gambling is the Philippine charity sweepstakes office - The Lion share of their profits are being funneled thru charity and foundation.  

But given the nature of the online casino business most of them are profit centered company and there's no law that requires them to set aside a charity fund from their profit.


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March 18, 2019, 09:09:55 AM
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2- if you loose ... well thats not why you came to casino. If you would like to spend your money on charity you would do that without casino.
But some people do gamble for fun/entertainment because they have lots of money. So channeling some money to charity would be wonderful from that point of view.

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But some people do gamble for fun/entertainment because they have lots of money. So channeling some money to charity would be wonderful from that point of view.

What gives them fun from gamble? Stare at the steel ball? I think that its excitement from winning. If it comes with taking money from charity it kills fun from winning.

Also to be honest i don't think that there are dozens of those who have enough money to gamble for fun without thinking about money. For sure there are some but its marginal.
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March 18, 2019, 09:34:14 AM
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Isn't that because people gamble to win? Gamble for charity kills fun from gambling.

You should read the context.

This was about the CASINO giving money to charity, not gamblers splitting their gains.
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March 18, 2019, 10:05:37 AM
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You did not understand me. I'm talking exact about that. If casino is giving their earnings to charity means that if you win jackpot you are decreasing casino earnings and that means that they will give less to charity. The more you will the less charity will get. That steals fun out of your win. That's my point.
Maybe i wasn't precise enough with my sentence you quoted.
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March 18, 2019, 10:16:47 AM
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You did not understand me. I'm talking exact about that. If casino is giving their earnings to charity means that if you win jackpot you are decreasing casino earnings and that means that they will give less to charity. The more you will the less charity will get. That steals fun out of your win. That's my point.
Maybe i wasn't precise enough with my sentence you quoted.

I think you have no idea where the earnings come from. You should look into the business model of a casino. They earn money as long as you play. winning or loosing makes no difference. If you don't win, someone else will. And most importantly the casino always wins.
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I think you have no idea where the earnings come from. You should look into the business model of a casino. They earn money as long as you play. winning or loosing makes no difference. If you don't win, someone else will. And most importantly the casino always wins.

You are right and I agree with you. I know that casino always wins due to statistic advantage in every game (more gamblers - more profit) and each win is calculated with probability it appears. I'm only saying that its not fun to win for single individual if he knows that casino profit is going for charity (in my opinion).


Maybe it was just to make publicity, and when they noticed it didn't bring them more customers they stopped?

I was only trying to argument why such a generous idea may not bring more customers (as you posted).
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March 18, 2019, 10:57:03 AM
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As the subjects says, is there any gambling sites that runs some charities?

Never heard of it and if there is one then most probably that it would turn into a scam. Those charity event would only be publicize on major broadcasting companies and media outlet, so that people who view or heard about it will think that its a legit charity event.

Setting up a charity event here where gamblers play for a cause is like writing a letter in the water.

The idea came from my own thread, in which I'm planning to hold a charity for who are in need and at the same time introduce crypto.

As good as it my sound, majority of the gamblers here in this forum only wants profit and does`nt care if it`s for a cause.

Besides, here in our country, crypto have a really bad background due to scammers abused it back then. And now I'm planning on having my claims on faucets and gambling winnings to be on these plan.

Faucet claims cant even buy a sack of rice. How long do you think you can win if you gamble? Of course you will lose on some bet. Its not feasible in my opinion.



The problem that you will be facing here will be vast.

  • Which gambling site do you plan to do this charity? Are you going to create one or talk to a legit gambling site for this event?
  • Will the gambling site that you have talked to will agree to do a charity event for a cause?
  • From which country do you plan to give the money that you will earn from the event?
  • Will the gamblers agree on the Country that you prefer?
  • Where do you plan to get gamblers? Obviously its not here.
  • Where will you get the funds for paying the gamblers who manage to win a lot of money?

The list goes on, as i cant write them all down. The plan is good but not feasible.
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March 18, 2019, 01:19:11 PM
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A lot of feedbacks has been posted but only few of it has been answering the OP, almost the majority of users are from stake sigs in which they're giving shitties.

I'm more inclined on having not just stake, but some other gambling companies or individuals that shares their winnings to charities ( though if you think it very hardly, its quite impossible iin this times especially human beings are full of greed.)

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As the subjects says, is there any gambling sites that runs some charities? The idea came from my own thread, in which I'm planning to hold a charity for who are in need and at the same time introduce crypto.

Besides, here in our country, crypto have a really bad background due to scammers abused it back then. And now I'm planning on having my claims on faucets and gambling winnings to be on these plan.

Note: Please give an honest opinion and not just a simple one. Shitty feedbacks will get deleted.



Getting a positive one on a negative is so nice. The idea is great and it can change the mindset of the people. In the country we have this kind of lottery or charity sweepstakes also and it worked like boom. If you can take a percentage on every winning person and put it in charity then it would be great. Besides,people wants to gambme becauss they have extras. They domt mind if you get some on their winnings.

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March 19, 2019, 05:40:29 AM
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Let me give my honest opinion.

I guess this would not work because most gamblers are losing money due to the fact that we loss most of the time.
Most would prefer to enjoy their winnings that donate for charity, so it's not a better idea to incorporate donation program with gambling winnings.

Usually it's the gambling sites that are giving donations as they are more profitable, I saw that a group from your community and they plan to run a  NBA ending game, why not just realize it then allocate a portion of your profit for donation?

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March 19, 2019, 06:02:46 AM
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Let me give my honest opinion.

I guess this would not work because most gamblers are losing money due to the fact that we loss most of the time.
Most would prefer to enjoy their winnings that donate for charity, so it's not a better idea to incorporate donation program with gambling winnings.

Usually it's the gambling sites that are giving donations as they are more profitable, I saw that a group from your community and they plan to run a  NBA ending game, why not just realize it then allocate a portion of your profit for donation?

No one is enforcing you to do a charity, if you feel like enjoying your money then just enjoy it. I never told anyone to make a donation whenever they win on something. Kindly think first, a charity is an honest activity done by an individual with his free will.

And as an addition, I'm not into betting on NBA Leagues for I don't know the mechanics of them. I'm more interested on playing what is easy to play. Also did anyone said here that Gambling is all about winning? Ofcourse not, we're not dumb. What my point is, if you can play gambling games then why you can't even help a poor guy. You're worried upon losing but not on humanity's existence.
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Usually it's the gambling sites that are giving donations as they are more profitable, I saw that a group from your community and they plan to run a  NBA ending game, why not just realize it then allocate a portion of your profit for donation?

The problem that our community faces regarding this matter.

  • Website - I don't know if they plan to build one or not since it will take a pretty large amount of their time designing and making one.
  • Program - The program itself is hard to get, without worrying about backdoor shit that the programmer might put to steal money.
  • Funds - If there are no funds to be allocated in this project, no matter how good it may look it still won't run.
  • Familiarization - Only the Filipinos know how to play ending and for a foreigner decided to play and bet, they might not be able to enjoy the game since it a passive one.
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March 19, 2019, 08:29:55 AM
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Well, you have a very good idea and only people with generous hearts thinks of coming up with this kind of project.
I know of “spin for goods “ casino that was created with same purpose of charity. It is a new site but has been effective.

It an online gambling site that was created by the co-author of freak economics and it allows donors to bring together support for their favorite charities. Their mission is to create fun and engaging gambling experience, with the intention of been a rival to other social games and over the years they have really had great partners.

I don’t think they accept crypto and introducing yours with a plan to accepting crypto would give you a great edge over all other existing charity gambling sites.
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March 19, 2019, 05:27:01 PM
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Recently I've been killing my time to the newly opened gambling site, though I haven't deposited any money yet but I've been doing good so far.
I already have a profit just by using their free coins. And just like freebitco.in withdrawing your funds doesn't need any deposits first before you can make a request.
Below is my game history, and from here I plan to donate it all for our project.



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March 19, 2019, 06:01:20 PM
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Gambling for charities can really turn crypto grow because some people worldwide want to help like they will donate here so they can spread this also by doing that like to the person that they know then i think better to try also this in trading site,different faucets and more another thing this will turn well if your really trusted like you will go popular

Requesting or donation and begging is not accepted in forum but this is community who help for charity with the name of gambling I believe everyone could contribute that but not sure how forum rules allow these things.
If there is any token kind of thing investors may help them to make good amount of money.
Or they may start any petition site to grab the people who wishes to help them.

 
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March 19, 2019, 06:52:27 PM
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Requesting or donation and begging is not accepted in forum ...

Donation is allowed,... Begging is Not,... Requesting depends on the situation, for it may also sound like begging or not...
Refer to this >>> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300631.0
Charity Works/Activities is allowed, it is just being abused by shitty assholes that's why it's being prohibited in some ways.
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Gambling for charities can really turn crypto grow because some people worldwide want to help like they will donate here so they can spread this also by doing that like to the person that they know then i think better to try also this in trading site,different faucets and more another thing this will turn well if your really trusted like you will go popular

Requesting or donation and begging is not accepted in forum but this is community who help for charity with the name of gambling I believe everyone could contribute that but not sure how forum rules allow these things.
If there is any token kind of thing investors may help them to make good amount of money.
Or they may start any petition site to grab the people who wishes to help them.
Do really love this charity motive of yours and checking out that thread you have given it do prioritizes those paranaque kids.Donation out of gambling isnt really bad at all
but actually if we do like to donate it isnt really necessary for us to play gambling yet we can donate directly in kind. I'll might make some donation later on if i do have that extra.

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March 20, 2019, 03:59:55 AM
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Let me give my honest opinion.

I guess this would not work because most gamblers are losing money due to the fact that we loss most of the time.
Most would prefer to enjoy their winnings that donate for charity, so it's not a better idea to incorporate donation program with gambling winnings.

Usually it's the gambling sites that are giving donations as they are more profitable, I saw that a group from your community and they plan to run a  NBA ending game, why not just realize it then allocate a portion of your profit for donation?

No one is enforcing you to do a charity, if you feel like enjoying your money then just enjoy it. I never told anyone to make a donation whenever they win on something. Kindly think first, a charity is an honest activity done by an individual with his free will.

And as an addition, I'm not into betting on NBA Leagues for I don't know the mechanics of them. I'm more interested on playing what is easy to play. Also did anyone said here that Gambling is all about winning? Ofcourse not, we're not dumb. What my point is, if you can play gambling games then why you can't even help a poor guy. You're worried upon losing but not on humanity's existence.

Sorry to offend you, it's not my purpose.
I'm just giving an honest opinion and that's nothing personal, it's not that I am not interested to help, I'm just speaking my opinion on the viability of the project and it's normal to hear all this comments and please take it a constructive criticism.

Please remember this, your biggest critics could be your biggest supporter if you can convince them about your project.

Good luck mate!

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What I'm hoping is all of you aren't just full of words and not only talks a lot but never done anything. Hoping that you'll do whatever you are saying in this thread.

And just in case, you should visit the link given in this thread. Thanks. Let's have a good purpose here not just by having ourselves comfortable with sigs.



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Just deleted some posts that is about Stake, and non sense off topic replies. I don't care about a shitty thing on why stake remove their charity activities or not, I'm more inclined of having some users here interested on helping and doing such community service for free. Or even the fund raising activity will be atleast be somewhat having some support.

Post that is irrelevant to the OP will get deleted, I don't f*****g care on your non sensible  shitposts.
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March 20, 2019, 03:56:11 PM
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Why exactly did you remove my perfectly valid post?

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Do you have any information about why there stopped?

Maybe it was just to make publicity, and when they noticed it didn't bring them more customers they stopped?

That would be a really charitable mindset.
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March 20, 2019, 04:43:13 PM
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Why exactly did you remove my perfectly valid post?

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Do you have any information about why there stopped?

Maybe it was just to make publicity, and when they noticed it didn't bring them more customers they stopped?

That would be a really charitable mindset.

It is valid at some point but it refers to the Stake which I have mostly deleted, am I wrong? I wouldn't delete anything in general if its a direct feedback for the OP.And at some other point I haven't deleted some of your posts which I find valid for the OP.
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Why exactly did you remove my perfectly valid post?

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Do you have any information about why there stopped?

Maybe it was just to make publicity, and when they noticed it didn't bring them more customers they stopped?

That would be a really charitable mindset.

It is valid at some point but it refers to the Stake which I have mostly deleted, am I wrong? I wouldn't delete anything in general if its a direct feedback for the OP.And at some other point I haven't deleted some of your posts which I find valid for the OP.

Self moderated are a bad idea in general in my opinion and kill free speech.
You created the thread without clear moderation rules. No clue why the stake topic was deleted.

I'll refrain from posting in your self mod and treads in the future.
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March 20, 2019, 05:04:54 PM
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OK, is this a simple fundraiser or are you planning on holding an online tournament? If it's the latter have you already found a site that is willing to help?

I know the purpose is for people to donate their earnings but you'd attract more people if there are at least small prizes. Maybe even a raffle would earn enough.

Anyway, best of luck on your project.
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Why exactly did you remove my perfectly valid post?

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Do you have any information about why there stopped?

Maybe it was just to make publicity, and when they noticed it didn't bring them more customers they stopped?

That would be a really charitable mindset.

It is valid at some point but it refers to the Stake which I have mostly deleted, am I wrong? I wouldn't delete anything in general if its a direct feedback for the OP.And at some other point I haven't deleted some of your posts which I find valid for the OP.

Self moderated are a bad idea in general in my opinion and kill free speech.
You created the thread without clear moderation rules. No clue why the stake topic was deleted.

I'll refrain from posting in your self mod and treads in the future.

The OP is being trampled by the Stake topic and users are not reading the OP, as I'm gathering for infos that can help the project, I'm not interested on why Stake has removed their feature. Though if partcipants of the the STAKE wants to discuss it continuously, then I think it's better on the other threads.

I didn't create some rules for I know this is quite an interesting discussion and for some reason there wont be any misleading discussions , but for what I have seen users are more inclined with STAKE. That's the reason why I ended up deleting those, and changed the OP.



It's your decision whether you'll refrain from posting on my threads, what I just did is for the best. And I don't see anything wrong with that, but if you're offended just like that, then I'm sorry. My aim is to help and bring support to the project. Their are people who might want to see something like that and might also want to help.



OK, is this a simple fundraiser or are you planning on holding an online tournament? If it's the latter have you already found a site that is willing to help?

Visit the link, and it might answer your question.
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This is a good idea, but remember that not all countries, with their regulations, will receive charity from the gambling proceeds. but this is very good for humanitarian activities.
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This is a good idea, but remember that not all countries, with their regulations, will receive charity from the gambling proceeds. but this is very good for humanitarian activities.

How would you even incorporate the two though? If you're really serious about giving to charity why do it through gambling where there's a chance you may lose everything. If you have a lot of capital for gambling, wouldn't it be more sensible to just donate it to charity straight away? And if people will say that the amount to be donated xan increase for better, there's a bigger chance there won't be anything left to donate at all.


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March 21, 2019, 11:05:59 AM
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I don't think that any gambling site is doing charity for their earnings. They are keeping all in their own pocket. Some gamblers may donate a large portion, if they win big.

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How would you even incorporate the two though? If you're really serious about giving to charity why do it through gambling where there's a chance you may lose everything. If you have a lot of capital for gambling, wouldn't it be more sensible to just donate it to charity straight away? And if people will say that the amount to be donated xan increase for better, there's a bigger chance there won't be anything left to donate at all.

It's like hitting two birds with ones stone. Playing because you're finding for some entertainment, and if you win make a big win-win, will donate a portion of the earning to charity.

Though you're also quite right about that, there aren't maybe left, but donation is done only by free will not forcibly, if they want to spend all of there money then its their decision.
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How would you even incorporate the two though? If you're really serious about giving to charity why do it through gambling where there's a chance you may lose everything. If you have a lot of capital for gambling, wouldn't it be more sensible to just donate it to charity straight away? And if people will say that the amount to be donated xan increase for better, there's a bigger chance there won't be anything left to donate at all.

It's like hitting two birds with ones stone. Playing because you're finding for some entertainment, and if you win make a big win-win, will donate a portion of the earning to charity.

Though you're also quite right about that, there aren't maybe left, but donation is done only by free will not forcibly, if they want to spend all of there money then its their decision.

If you have a choice: simply donate to charity or, instead of that allocate the same amount as the entrance to the poker tournament from which the whole / or half of pole would be donated to the charity, the choice is simple - the goal will be achieved and you will have also a lot of fun. In addition, you will never lose any money because you play for money that you already give for charity and if you win you will not get money but a  lot of satisfaction.

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How would you even incorporate the two though? If you're really serious about giving to charity why do it through gambling where there's a chance you may lose everything. If you have a lot of capital for gambling, wouldn't it be more sensible to just donate it to charity straight away? And if people will say that the amount to be donated xan increase for better, there's a bigger chance there won't be anything left to donate at all.

It's like hitting two birds with ones stone. Playing because you're finding for some entertainment, and if you win make a big win-win, will donate a portion of the earning to charity.

Though you're also quite right about that, there aren't maybe left, but donation is done only by free will not forcibly, if they want to spend all of there money then its their decision.
There are 2 characteristics of people when playing gambling.
1. Hobbies
If they do because of hobbies, then they do charity while working on their hobbies.
For example:
A rich man in Dubai will not care if he wins or loses gambling. If he wins he will probably buy his wives a Lambo and maybe also do charity at the orphanage.
And if he loses in the playing, he never feels any loss.
Well OP ...
Your objective is to give purpose to people who have characteristics like this.
As you said, hit two birds with a stone. I love that you say.
(Doing hobbies while doing charity).

2. Make money
We don't need to discuss this, because we already know what their purpose is to gamble

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To be fait it's a little bit hard to say how logical it is when gambling website does a  charity because that money is usually collected from people who are gambling addicts, lose their own money and are becoming unhappy (sometimes yeah, there are some people like this) but also they lose money for nothing, it's just spent money in a very silly way and it's better if money would be taken for poor people and for those who really nees it and money matters for them.

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This is a good idea, but remember that not all countries, with their regulations, will receive charity from the gambling proceeds. but this is very good for humanitarian activities.
It is a very good idea but like you said, so many countries have their own strict policies guarding gambling and even if it’s the one done through blockchain technology that makes it anonymous, the charity organization must still ask for the source of money especially when it comes to huge amount which money from gambling might not be accepted.

Moreover, we have lots of charity organizations around us that we can walk into individually, I understand that people don’t take steps except you are being motivated or pressured to do so, if we can be visiting the ones closest to us, there won’t be any need going through a gambling site to donate money for charity.
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Why exactly did you remove my perfectly valid post?

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Do you have any information about why there stopped?

Maybe it was just to make publicity, and when they noticed it didn't bring them more customers they stopped?

That would be a really charitable mindset.
  It should start again because this is best opportunity to make your economical role better as we have some responsibility to pay for our society and for who was not having money to help the charity at better got the chance to help the humanity and give some contribution as gambler in charity funding.
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It’s actually a great idea from someone with a large heart I must say and I am glad to see there are members of the forum who understand the concept so well and ready to give their support, am so impressed. I am personally very cool with the gambling for charity and I’ve always wondered if anything of such exist, but I however think the OP might encounter some challenges on the way.

Maybe it’s just my thought though. I feel there will be donors who will fail to remit their donations and this might lead to challenges in running the site, except he’s financially capable to handle this otherwise might be forced to publish names of those who pledged, those who have and those whom are yet to remit on the site lol Grin.

Just thinking aloud, I know that won’t be possible. But, I truly hope the project will be a great success, am a fan of the idea.
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March 29, 2019, 06:27:39 PM
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Every Legitimate Casino Platform should allot a fund for social obligation. A good example is a charity based gambling is the Philippine charity sweepstakes office - The Lion share of their profits are being funneled thru charity and foundation.  

But given the nature of the online casino business most of them are profit centered company and there's no law that requires them to set aside a charity fund from their profit.
Agree, and for this type of help, they can diminish their taxes by doing charity. A company that helps the needs or sponsoring a team of basketball makes their taxes go low. I don't know if this rule applies to other country but it does to mine.




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March 29, 2019, 06:32:58 PM
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This is a good work you plan to do, portraying gambling in a good light and as well as cryptocurrency. I think gambling industry does not really have a very good reputation and there are still people who do not know much about cryptocurrency. So, your plan of making people raise money in form of cryptocurrency for charity gambling means that it is for good and the project will be very successful. It an act of kindness that I think will go a long way in changing the lives of man.

I hope there will be good members of this forum who would give you all the support you need, both moral and financial. I am totally in agreement with this and you have all my support.
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This is a good idea as that will help the less previllage in the society though it only meant for the people within your community and those who can really see what you guys are doing with the funds will be motivated to contribute.
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