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March 18, 2019, 02:16:34 PM
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A STORY OF A SELF-MADE SENIOR MEMBER

Welcome all to my topic,

Today, I will tell you my second story and give you some advice (if you not need them, just skip) for your later time spent in the forum.
More than one year ago, I felt like I will never hit the Full Member finish line, but I actually hit that line on December 13, 2018, or even some days sooner, I don't remember.
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tranthidungtranthidungtranthidungtranthidung0: -0 / +0activeInformation expected
I felt happily when I hit that line. After that, I move my next finish line to Senior Member rank, and felt that journey will take around one more year.
Amazingly when after around 3 months (a little bit more than 3 months later), I hit the line.
Congratulations myself to become a new self-made Senior Member.

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tranthidungtranthidungtranthidungtranthidung0: -0 / +0activeInformation expected
It is important to take a note here, do you see the image below?

My activity count is 406, and my merit points is 258.
With the old ranking system, to hit Senior Memer line, you should have 250 activity count.
So, the ratio between  my current activity count / the required activity count of old ranking system for Sr. member is:
Code:
. di 406/250
1.624
~ 1.6, it means that to hit the same line (Sr. member) I need to spend around 60 percent more time.
Personally, it's not too hard, not too long. It's acceptable, I thought.  Roll Eyes

To be honest with you all, I did not imagine that I could be promoted to a Senior Member within only three months.
It is a big, very big shocking journey for myself.

Now, my story stopped there, and I will start giving you some advice if you want to move up with merit challenge.

To promote with merit system and new rank requirements, you should do following things.

(1) Never begging for merits
Reasons:
- Doing this will highly result in Red Trust, it is just the matter of time. Sooner or later, if you keep begging for merits, you will get Red Trust, certainly.
- Doing this don't help you to improve yourself. In long-term journey in the forum, it's not good for you, generally.

(2) Spending most of your time to read and learn
Only start composing your posts when you have something extremely constructive to discussions, topics.
Reasons:
- You are noobs, newbies (lack of knowledge, and experience), so what you think are constructive most likely unconstructive in reality.
- When you actually have reasons to start composing your posts, after finishing it, please re-read again and again to check that your posts are good in grammar, vocabularies, and good enough to express most of your ideas. I wrote most of your ideas because sometimes it is difficult for non-native English speakers to write down and completely express ideas by words. It's a challenge for non-native English speakers, who don't have English as their mother tongue.

(3) Never copy and paste without links to sources, or without quotes
Reasons:
- It is plagiarism, and punishments on plagiarism is kind of strictest ones in the forum.
Plagiarists who got permanent bans almost won't be allowed to come back.
There are new changes by @theymos, that allow perma-banned users give proofs, evidence of their contributions to the forum to come back.
But, the probabilty to have second chance is very very low.
There's been no policy change. redsn0w wasn't permanently banned due to several factors which made me think that permabanning him would be a net negative for the forum. Nobody is banned strictly because of "the rules"; it's always handled case-by-case, but almost always, plagiarists deserve to be permabanned.

If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.
You should not expect that chance when perma-banned due to plagiarism.
- How to insert quote, please look at the image. It is very easy, click on the quote button at the upper corner on the right side of each post you want to quote.
You need statistics on perma-banned users due to plagiarisms? There you go:
How many banned users have you merited? (by LoyceV)

(4) Never mind of bounties, campaigns when you are noobs
Reasons:
- Campaigns are there, open then close, then others open and close, from time to time. You should never worry that you miss this chance, that chance, this campaign, that campaign, something like this.
It is the same as merits. Lots of users complain that merits are rare, I can not get merits due to it is rare. Nope, merits (more exactly, sMerits - sendable merits) are available, everywhere in the forum. There are so many merit sources, normal users, who have lots of sMerits readily to send out. They kept them partially due to quality posts are rare, not sMerits.
- Instead of paying too much attention, and time on hunting for bounties, especially bounties that have easy rules and joinable for low rank users; you should start learning, reading, and build up your accounts.
When you hit your finish lines, it's time for you to seriously think of joining bounties.

(5) Learn from inspirational stories. Learn from merited users, topics, posts
Reading and learning from most merited users, and most merited topics, posts are one of the best way to improve your post quality, coherence and cohesion when you compose your posts, topics.
I have a topic on: Inspirational stories from self-made promoted users

(6) Spend your time to improve your English, especially Reading and Writing skills
Reasons:
- If you can not read posts or topic in English well, can not get ideas of posts' / topics' authors, it means that you have nothing to do in the forum.
Remember that you have to get their ideas well enough to not misunderstand their core ideas.
- Next, after reading good enough to catch authors' ideas, it is time for you to express your own ideas in case you have something to ask for help, something to discuss, or something meaningful to help others. This is the time you need to have good enough Writing skill.
This is why I mentioned you should improve your English skills, step by step, from Reading to Writing. Of course, you can improve both skills simultaneously.
The forum is the place almost solely for discussions via Reading and Writing.
You can find available sources for English learning in the References at the end of this OP.


(7) Don't pay your attention on post-length  (Ideas that I took from theymos' Writing a welcome message)
If you make ten thousand posts in a week, your activity will be capped and you will still be a Newbie. If you make ten thousand useless posts over any period of time, you will gain zero merit and you will still be a Newbie. You can rank up only by making good posts consistently. It's quality over quantity.

When trying to write quality posts, a lot of people act as though they're writing a book report for school: putting facts that we already know into their own words. Nobody wants to read that, and you will not get merit for it. Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.



Remember that promoting with merit system is a challenge, but you can do make it.
And, when got promoted, you are different, different from airdroped users at the same rank.
It means you will become more competitive when applying to join campaigns.


Now, let's get started with your own journey that lead to your finish lines!


References:
The most fundamental list of guides, that you should spend most of your time to read.
Those guides are helpful not only for promotions, but also for your crypto lives in general.
GUIDES] on Bitcointalk. Index thread (until there is a dedicated subforum?) (by LoyceV)

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March 18, 2019, 04:05:23 PM
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Congratulations,it takes a lot of effort and determination to get to senior member ranks, you have to read learn and implement what's learn to achieve such a milestone.
Your 5th point is the one I like the most, when we see inspirational stories such as yours, it gives an extra motivation to continue developing oneself, congratulations.

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First of all congratulations, isn't easy to grow accounts nowadays on the forum, and is great to see how people is really growing. keep moving with the good quality posts that will bring you more merits to grow more, and thanks for the recommendations, all those points are so true!

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March 21, 2019, 04:13:29 AM
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Thanks for your compliments, that give me more motivations, more power to keep going to the next finish line, Hero Member line.
First of all congratulations, isn't easy to grow accounts nowadays on the forum, and is great to see how people is really growing. keep moving with the good quality posts that will bring you more merits to grow more, and thanks for the recommendations, all those points are so true!

Exactly! Let's keep reading, learning from stories, merited posts/ topics, and from celebrities in the forum, then growing up.
Some day you will reach your finish line (Full Member).
Your 5th point is the one I like the most, when we see inspirational stories such as yours, it gives an extra motivation to continue developing oneself, congratulations.

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March 21, 2019, 07:32:19 PM
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Congratulations on ranking up to Snr member, it is a reflection of how the forum rewards quality posts.

(3) Never copy and paste without links to sources, or without quotes
This portion does not really increase ones chances of ranking up, it only ensures you do not get banned. Following the rules does not earn you merits.

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March 21, 2019, 07:49:46 PM
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(3) Never copy and paste without links to sources, or without quotes
This portion does not really increase ones chances of ranking up, it only ensures you do not get banned. Following the rules does not earn you merits.

It might not increase your chances of ranking up (due to low merit) but it can earn you some merit. I have gotten merited severally for providing answer to questions asked and link source of information in the process, also I have personally taken my time to search through user post history to merit their decent post just because they practice decent posting habit like avoiding quote spam or off topic replies and If I  remember clearly, jet cash has merited all those that commented before him on a thread without unnecessary qouting OP.

What I'm trying to say is obeying forum rules can also help you in ranking up as well as avoiding ban.

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March 22, 2019, 04:11:11 AM
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It is the key point, fella.
Avoiding plagiarism does not help you to earn merits, but it do help you to avoid account ban, especially perma ban.
And, it makes sense.
Why do you have to put massive, continuous efforts over days, months, or years to earn 100, 250, 500, or even higher amount of  merits, and finally got perma ban due to some of your posts are plagiarims?
It sounds like the stupidiest way to do.
This is one of main reasons why we usually see perma bans due to plagiarism on newbies, or lower rank members. Higher rank members known the rules well, and they don't stupid enough to intentionally violate that rule.
This portion does not really increase ones chances of ranking up, it only ensures you do not get banned. Following the rules does not earn you merits.

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March 22, 2019, 04:51:58 AM
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This is one of main reasons why we usually see perma bans due to plagiarism on newbies, or lower rank members. Higher rank members known the rules well, and they don't stupid enough to intentionally violate that rule.

Another possibility is that the 'plagiarism' post from those high-ranked users are hard to be found (maybe he did that when he's still newbie). But yeah, it's definitely a waste of time when you finally ranked up but then you got banned because plagiarism when you're still Jr. Member.




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Another possibility is that the 'plagiarism' post from those high-ranked users are hard to be found (maybe he did that when he's still newbie). But yeah, it's definitely a waste of time when you finally ranked up but then you got banned because plagiarism when you're still Jr. Member.
This is why I wrote 'intentionally or un-intentionally'.
Sometimes, we did stupid things un-intentionally when we were noobs due to not know forum rules.
Sometimes, we did stupid things but naively thought that we were smart in noobihood or even in higher ranks.

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One thing that counted in your favour was your good writing skills in English. A lot of forum members struggle with the communication skills in English and the sub-forums for their language has a much smaller audience.

English is also not my first language, but I work very hard on my spelling and grammar and making it easier for other people to understand my posts. <I can speak and write several languages, so it is easier for me to get more information from non-English boards>

So, my advice will be for people to work harder on their writing skills in the most common language that are used on this forum, because it has a much bigger audience. <Hard work, gets rewarded>  Wink

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March 22, 2019, 03:23:38 PM
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Hi Kakmakar,
Appreciated your good point contributed to my topic, as I saw it shed a light to add new point into the OP.
I will edit OP tomorrow with one additional point on English.
The forum is designed for reading and writing, they are two means for discussions here.
Hence, in general, the ability to join discussion will decrease if users don't have good skills in writing and reading.

I am non-native English speaker, too.
So, your compliments motivate me a lot, but I do know that my English is likey come from third world sometimes.
I can not write perfect English as native English speakers, but at least I tried to sharpen it e ouch to express my ideas, almost exactly what I want to describe.

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March 23, 2019, 02:46:21 AM
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Finished!
Today, I updated the OP with the six point, on English requirements to effectively join the forum.
I think it is one of the first priorities of forum users when they participate the forum.
(6) Spend your time to improve your English, especially Reading and Writing skills
Reasons:
- If you can not read posts or topic in English well, can not get ideas of posts' / topics' authors, it means that you have nothing to do in the forum.
Remember that you have to get their ideas well enough to not misunderstand their core ideas.
- Next, after reading good enough to catch authors' ideas, it is time for you to express your own ideas in case you have something to ask for help, something to discuss, or something meaningful to help others. This is the time you need to have good enough Writing skill.
This is why I mentioned you should improve your English skills, step by step, from Reading to Writing. Of course, you can improve both skills simultaneously.
The forum is the place almost solely for discussions via Reading and Writing.
You can find available sources for English learning in the References at the end of this OP.

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April 03, 2019, 02:00:29 PM
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I BELIVE MY ACCOUNT SOON INCRESS RANK
Nope, you won't if you keep posting bad posts with poor grammar and spelling mistakes like these.
Please come back to improve your English Writing first, before posting again.
(6) Spend your time to improve your English, especially Reading and Writing skills
Reasons:
- If you can not read posts or topic in English well, can not get ideas of posts' / topics' authors, it means that you have nothing to do in the forum.
Remember that you have to get their ideas well enough to not misunderstand their core ideas.
- Next, after reading good enough to catch authors' ideas, it is time for you to express your own ideas in case you have something to ask for help, something to discuss, or something meaningful to help others. This is the time you need to have good enough Writing skill.
This is why I mentioned you should improve your English skills, step by step, from Reading to Writing. Of course, you can improve both skills simultaneously.
The forum is the place almost solely for discussions via Reading and Writing.
You can find available sources for English learning in the References at the end of this OP.

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April 04, 2019, 12:56:11 AM
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Bump for newbies who need stories to inspire them growing up.

Sounds very funny when you say "growing up" like the newbies are all kids. it would be more appropriate saying "ranking up"  because not every account with newbie rank are kids. Some of us got works to do and don't have much spare time to developerd ourself on forum. Loved your post it's inspiring ++1

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There are different ways to describe the process of growth in the forum.
For example:
  • grow up
  • mature
  • promote
  • rank up
Choosing one of them for your words, I don't see issues with any of them.
Sounds very funny when you say "growing up" like the newbies are all kids. it would be more appropriate saying "ranking up"  because not every account with newbie rank are kids. Some of us got works to do and don't have much spare time to developerd ourself on forum. Loved your post it's inspiring ++1

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The only thing I don't understand is, what's the point of chasing rank now if it's worthless? Rank was necessary in order to make more money on the bounty programs, but now this is not true, then why?
It depends upon your original main purpose when you joined the forum, and your current main purposes. I say past and current purposes because people change over time, me too. Maybe at my first days in the forum, I did not have intention to contribute anything, but over months, especially with merit system, that changed me a lot. I am not proud of myself, but I thought I have changed, and become more constructive over months.

For your question on promotions, and money-making, oh, I don't think I can answer this. It's your question, and believe me if you didn't have answer for your question before you raising it here, you would have not raised such question.

You have nearly reached your quota today, 15 for now, congrats!

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A simple and short explaination on how one will get merit is his/her knowledge and expertise. Thus, the ticket in order for one to receive merits that even if how good one to use the enlish language but still good inputs like quality posting will be the key in getting merits. If one does not have the right qualification, then one can't write quality posts and neither can get merits. It os very simple that most of the users here or the merit source itself will favorable on givimg merits to a post like this one OP that requirez good knowledge about the forum and cryptocurrency.

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Congratulations OP in achieving your goal. If you can do it then we can do it too as long as we think positively that we can achieve our goal like you did. I have seen you as full member before until your senior member now. All I can say is that you really deserved on what you have achieved. Your efforts on helping forum users in this forum is fruitful. Congratulations again.

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I am thankful to all of your compliments, @jademaxsuy and @nakamura12. In fact, I ranked up to a Senior Member rank months ago, that actually faster than what I expected at the start of 2019, honestly. So, my target for the end of this year changed a little bit, and I moved up my desired rank to Hero Member rank. I hope that I can hit this line before the year of 2020.

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There are tips from @mikeywith, that are helpful for newbies, whom still struggle with composing their very first constructive posts in the forum.
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