marcotheminer

[marcotheminer]

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You guys are very good at painting users. Always keen to find an issue in others. You are helping the community?

This guy may be late to pay but he repaid the lender with extra amount as late fees. One of the lender panicked so he created a topic. And you lot just ruined everything for this user?

After your red tag this guy could deny repayment. Who would suffer then? The OP of course, coz he would lost his money. Good thing that this guys did not do that.

     How long do you recommend we wait to tag someone for being late on a short term loan? Especially when the lender starts a thread bringing up their concerns? It appears 10 days late on a loan that's only supposed to be a week is not sufficient grace for some people around here. Should DT sit on their hands for 30 days? 60 Days? 90 days? Indefinitely? Also, if DT spots the same account trying to get another loan while another is late, should DT sit on their hands?
    The only reason that I am not adding another negative trust comment to marcotheminer's trust page is because I do agree with LoyceV that this probably has more than enough redundancy at this point.
    Also, if someone is denying payment because DT started red tagging them for being late, that is untrustworthy behavior. In the end, I'm glad marcotheminer made everyone whole plus penalty and interest. However, in the future, it appears when marcotheminer is negotiating terms, he needs to learn to under-promise and over-deliver. As a bill collector, there is nothing more irritating than constantly getting "call me tomorrow, and I will pay," or "the check is in the mail." If they must be late, I would prefer that they just tell me a week or even a month (and make good) so I don't have to keep following up.

By 7 days in, the lender was calmed by my PROOF to him. That Thursday he has SOLID reassurance he would be paid ASAP. And I even got income before I expected today (0.3BTC).

I would say wait 2 weeks. That's scam territory. Some borrowers straight up disappear for 10-12 days easily.

Every other situation I've had I under promise and over deliver. I fucked up 2 small loans - no a big deal in my books.

[marcotheminer]

I fucked up 2 small loans - no a big deal in my books.

This is part of the problem, the fact that you can't see this from anybody else's viewpoint other than your own.  It may not seem like a big deal to you, but you weren't the one wondering if you were going to ever see your money again or whether the borrower was just stringing you along with false promises.

Also, I think bones was asking a rhetorical question when he asked how long DT members should wait before tagging someone for repaying a loan late, and it certainly isn't a question that you ought to be answering.  In fact, seeing as how the only thing your input has gotten you is more red trust, you might want to just remain quiet.  You are definitely not helping yourself with your words.

He was SATISFIED BEFORE I paid him, do you see this? I could have satisfied him the DAY I was late, but I had made "quick promises" stupidly rather than wait the day and make a sure call and say look I need 7days more, so and so will happen, here's my plan and progress.

The day it was due I had my backup income opportunity - the one I was sure of by Friday and shared with Roman (he can confirm this).

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Understand my words and you'll see where I'm coming from. I do business, things get done. Yeah, these things happen. But my mistakes, I agree fully don't need to repeat.

[hilariousetc]

Are we sure this is the original marcotheminer? I've only skimmed the thread but he was pretty inactive from about 2016 and has only really recently started up again, especially with the loans. Has a signed message been provide from some old addresses?

You guys are very good at painting users. Always keen to find an issue in others. You are helping the community?

This guy may be late to pay but he repaid the lender with extra amount as late fees. One of the lender panicked so he created a topic. And you lot just ruined everything for this user?

After your red tag this guy could deny repayment. Who would suffer then? The OP of course, coz he would lost his money. Good thing that this guys did not do that.

Where were you guys when hilariousandco did not remove cloudbet's name from his CL prize pool topic while there were a big scam accusations of 330 BTC was open. It was resolved later but wasn't it obvious if I or any other user would do the same then your lot would red paint them?

You would not mass with hilariousandco because he has the same power or to some extend more influence then you all lot have.

Jeeze, you really do have a hard-on for me. It was really fun for me to sit back and watch you run around desperately trying to get people to tag me merely for not removing the word 'Cloudbet' from the premier league pool when all the shenanigans was going on. You should read what you've just written a few times because I actually find great irony and hypocrisy in this post as you seriously contradict yourself. I'll explain why. You yourself were quick to want Cloudbet be painted with negative feedback and I think one of the main reasons why was because you knew I was running a Cloudbet-sponsored pool so that would be one avenue you could use to beat off to in an attempt to try 'get' me. I followed the situation closely but unlike the lynch mob I wasn't ready to throw them under the bus straight away because I thought there was a good chance the scam accuser was either lying or there was something fishy going on and it certainly wasn't apparent what was actually happening or that Cloubet were doing something dodgy nor did I feel like me running a pool merely with the word 'Cloudbet' in front of it was going to do much damage in this situation even if the worst turned out to be true, but I was waiting for all the facts, unlike you who wanted them painted red asap because it was in your interests to. In fact, it later transpired that Cloudbet was doing the good thing by delaying payment because they could see something fishy was going on and didn't add up right and someone else was trying to claim the money and that was later admitted by the original claimant and rightful owner of the money. If you had gotten your way and Cloudbet panicked and acquiesced to the demands of the red-painting lynch mob and just immediately sent the money back to the person who asked for it so the community didn't turn against them and ruin their rep forever then he would have likely run off with it and that would have been ok for you because chop chop, it had to be instant even though you didn't know all the facts. Imagine if that had happened and a scammer got all that money just because they didn't want their reputation ruined by the baying mob here hungry for blood instead of waiting for all the facts and research to have been done to make sure the money was actually going to the right person. What would have happened then. Would you have been rallying for them to send another 330 btc to the rightful owner? You were thinking with your dick and you should wait for the facts first before you blow your load, especially when all you really wanted from the situation was it diverted on to me.

[marcotheminer]

Are we sure this is the original marcotheminer? I've only skimmed the thread but he was pretty inactive from about 2016 and has only really recently started up again, especially with the loans. Has a signed message been provide from some old addresses?

Yes, since day 0 until now. Signed address has been given several times since returning to active mode.

[LoyceV]

Yes, since day 0 until now. Signed address has been given several times since returning to active mode.

To be thorough: can you give a link to a signed message and staked address? And since accounts are often sold including staked address, it will be much more convincing if you sign from a non-empty staked address.

[bones261]

NO LONGER SEEKING LOANS (1Month)
I received the expected 0.3BTC, so that's a month of income right there.

Well, it appears that plan changed. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5123782.0

[marcotheminer]

NO LONGER SEEKING LOANS (1Month)
I received the expected 0.3BTC, so that's a month of income right there.

Well, it appears that plan changed. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5123782.0

A hasty call on my part: I realise there's no point in calling things like that. Here is an opportunity for 5,000 eur in 20 days.

Again, serious investors will have the peace of mind they need. Trust me, I was and still am a serious investor when I have cash.

Yes, since day 0 until now. Signed address has been given several times since returning to active mode.

To be thorough: can you give a link to a signed message and staked address? And since accounts are often sold including staked address, it will be much more convincing if you sign from a non-empty staked address.

Yes, you can find it in my old loan threads. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg11077414#msg11077414

& Please, stop with the "exit scam" possibility. It's fun to have some drama where someone might run off with $5000eur, but it's peanuts. This is legitimate revenue generation. Those with real interest/ability to invest, will ask the right questions - and soon realise if they are wasting their time or soon to make money.

Honestly can't say much more than that, all the proof I need I have.

[LoyceV]

NO LONGER SEEKING LOANS (1Month)
I received the expected 0.3BTC, so that's a month of income right there.

Well, it appears that plan changed. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5123782.0

It smells more and more like an exit scam.

Yes, since day 0 until now. Signed address has been given several times since returning to active mode.

To be thorough: can you give a link to a signed message and staked address? And since accounts are often sold including staked address, it will be much more convincing if you sign from a non-empty staked address.

Yes, you can find it in my old loan threads. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg11077414#msg11077414

I see an address, no signature. For what it's worth, I have no reason to believe you bought the account. I didn't interact with you before.

& Please, stop with the "exit scam" possibility.

If you stop asking for bigger and bigger loans, I'll stop thinking you're planning an exit scam.

It's fun to have some drama where someone might run off with $5000eur, but it's peanuts. This is legitimate revenue generation.

I love it when people claim the loan they need is "peanuts". That may be true for some people, but the fact is you don't have this "peanut" amount, which makes it much more than "peanuts" for you.

Those with real interest/ability to invest, will ask the right questions - and soon realise if they are wasting their time or soon to make money.

I'd say open a topic and post all the details

[marcotheminer]

NO LONGER SEEKING LOANS (1Month)
I received the expected 0.3BTC, so that's a month of income right there.

Well, it appears that plan changed. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5123782.0

It smells more and more like an exit scam.

Yes, since day 0 until now. Signed address has been given several times since returning to active mode.

To be thorough: can you give a link to a signed message and staked address? And since accounts are often sold including staked address, it will be much more convincing if you sign from a non-empty staked address.

Yes, you can find it in my old loan threads. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg11077414#msg11077414

I see an address, no signature. For what it's worth, I have no reason to believe you bought the account. I didn't interact with you before.

& Please, stop with the "exit scam" possibility.

If you stop asking for bigger and bigger loans, I'll stop thinking you're planning an exit scam.

It's fun to have some drama where someone might run off with $5000eur, but it's peanuts. This is legitimate revenue generation.

I love it when people claim the loan they need is "peanuts". That may be true for some people, but the fact is you don't have this "peanut" amount, which makes it much more than "peanuts" for you.

Those with real interest/ability to invest, will ask the right questions - and soon realise if they are wasting their time or soon to make money.

I'd say open a topic and post all the details

Smell some coffee beans to reset your palette.

No but seriously, I'm not asking for bigger and bigger loans. I asked for 0.02 then 0.05 then 0.03 once. All small scale similar online operations. I can't convince you to make income, so I seek people who show business interest.

Post all the details? So that when they're out there you and 50 other members can crowd the income out? No thanks - there's a reason this space is profitable: it is inefficient. We don't share all information (yet), income opportunities like this must be protected, especially since they are short term.

"Peanuts" is the way one sees something. I don't have "peanuts" but I realise 5,000 eur truly is a drop in the bucket. I was dealing with these amounts in 2014-2016, many times holding it for companies and other users.

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There's another reason maybe for the negativity.

Many of the people speaking of me now never actually had any interactions with me. I've been here since end of 2013, the people who know me will trust me. Newer people or newly met people rather, will take some time to "show you how I operate". I successfully ran the biggest campaigns here, I worked with massive companies for their campaigns.

[nutildah]

NO LONGER SEEKING LOANS (1Month)
I received the expected 0.3BTC, so that's a month of income right there.

Well that ended pretty quickly:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5123782.0

You were no longer seeking loans for 1 month for 1 day.

No but seriously, I'm not asking for bigger and bigger loans.

I would say 3,000 - 5,000 euros definitely counts as "bigger."

[marcotheminer]

NO LONGER SEEKING LOANS (1Month)
I received the expected 0.3BTC, so that's a month of income right there.

Well that ended pretty quickly:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5123782.0

You were no longer seeking loans for 1 month for 1 day.

I received the 0.3, placed where needed and kept around half as liquid.

I am working with 400 eur, when 3000-5000 eur is ideal (for this opportunity).

I thought that opportunity was one-off, but turns out it continues, except slightly bigger/longer lasting. Hence the loan. I can pass on this opportunity (as I said, month of income). BUT why not earn more if it involves reinvest just a portion of previous earnings?

[suchmoon]

Just go to a bank and tell them this story you're telling us. I mean it's all so credible you should have no problem getting a 5000 EUR loan.

[marcotheminer]

Just go to a bank and tell them this story you're telling us. I mean it's all so credible you should have no problem getting a 5000 EUR loan.

Bitcoin is the end of banks. Why? because this is possible. Banks would ask for collateral, they are legacy systems. They wouldn't even know what I'm proposing. Here, people have knowledge of the field.

[nutildah]

Just go to a bank and tell them this story you're telling us. I mean it's all so credible you should have no problem getting a 5000 EUR loan.

Bitcoin is the end of banks. Why? because this is possible. Banks would ask for collateral, they are legacy systems. They wouldn't even know what I'm proposing. Here, people have knowledge of the field.

We don't even know what you're proposing because you won't tell anybody, unless they are a "serious investor." How can somebody even consider being a serious investor if they don't know what they are investing in?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Well that ended pretty quickly:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5123782.0

All he's gotten in that thread so far are comments voicing skepticism, and rightfully so--this is why the red trust should stand, so that others can see his history.

It'll be interesting to see if he gets that loan.  The main problem is that he sees no problem gambling with other people's money, and in addition he outright refuses to offer collateral.  If that isn't sketchy from a red-trusted member, I don't know what is.  He also thinks other people can read his mind and his intentions, which obviously no one can.  That's why collateral is a must for loans, especially with bitcoin.  If he decides to not repay the loan, the lender basically has zero recourse.

[suchmoon]

Just go to a bank and tell them this story you're telling us. I mean it's all so credible you should have no problem getting a 5000 EUR loan.

Bitcoin is the end of banks. Why? because this is possible. Banks would ask for collateral, they are legacy systems. They wouldn't even know what I'm proposing. Here, people have knowledge of the field.

Hint: "people" here are saying that you're full of shit.

You're either in some shithole where 5000 EUR is enough to disappear with or you're so broke IRL that you don't even have a credit card with a 5k limit. Either case, nobody should lend you any money, as if that hasn't been abundantly clear for some time now.

[Hhampuz]

I've seen a few projects pop up that are similar to bitconnect.. Are these the kind of investments you are making marco?

[marcotheminer]

Well that ended pretty quickly:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5123782.0

All he's gotten in that thread so far are comments voicing skepticism, and rightfully so--this is why the red trust should stand, so that others can see his history.

It'll be interesting to see if he gets that loan.  The main problem is that he sees no problem gambling with other people's money, and in addition he outright refuses to offer collateral.  If that isn't sketchy from a red-trusted member, I don't know what is.  He also thinks other people can read his mind and his intentions, which obviously no one can.  That's why collateral is a must for loans, especially with bitcoin.  If he decides to not repay the loan, the lender basically has zero recourse.

Stop. Making. Assumptions. Jesus.

I don't use cards (I don't even have a prepaid one), I prefer not even use my bank if I can avoid it.

I've seen a few projects pop up that are similar to bitconnect.. Are these the kind of investments you are making marco?

No. It is on a reputable exchange site.

We don't even know what you're proposing because you won't tell anybody, unless they are a "serious investor." How can somebody even consider being a serious investor if they don't know what they are investing in?

Ok, if you have 10 BTC in your wallet. Many people do. And you see who I am (through the b.s. of recent) then you reach out to me. You say: look here is how I operate, here's what I need. Boom, everyone is on same page and we work as a team, updates, etc as they come (daily in this instance).
No. It is on a reputable exchange site.

Just go to a bank and tell them this story you're telling us. I mean it's all so credible you should have no problem getting a 5000 EUR loan.

Bitcoin is the end of banks. Why? because this is possible. Banks would ask for collateral, they are legacy systems. They wouldn't even know what I'm proposing. Here, people have knowledge of the field.

Hint: "people" here are saying that you're full of shit.

You're either in some shithole where 5000 EUR is enough to disappear with or you're so broke IRL that you don't even have a credit card with a 5k limit. Either case, nobody should lend you any money, as if that hasn't been abundantly clear for some time now.

Read my signature.

[Quickseller]

Are we sure this is the original marcotheminer? I've only skimmed the thread but he was pretty inactive from about 2016 and has only really recently started up again, especially with the loans. Has a signed message been provide from some old addresses?

Yes, he signed a message here that included the date. Also he has had multiple loans funded to that address.

Yes, since day 0 until now. Signed address has been given several times since returning to active mode.

To be thorough: can you give a link to a signed message and staked address? And since accounts are often sold including staked address, it will be much more convincing if you sign from a non-empty staked address.

This is a pretty good argument to not go in 'guns blazing' tagging every sold account because, according to threads I have seen in Auctions, both email addresses and private keys are being sold with accounts, making it very difficult, if not impossible to tell when an account has changed hands.

Just go to a bank and tell them this story you're telling us. I mean it's all so credible you should have no problem getting a 5000 EUR loan.

Bitcoin is the end of banks. Why? because this is possible. Banks would ask for collateral, they are legacy systems. They wouldn't even know what I'm proposing. Here, people have knowledge of the field.

I am not sure if you have heard of a credit card, but that is an example of banks giving no collateral loans. Banks also give no collateral signature loans all the time, on much better terms than you are proposing. Banks will generally want to document a potential borrowers' ability to repay (usually based on their income) before giving this kind of loan

[marcotheminer]

I don't have a credit card. I am ready to pay higher interest to secure it P2P online (I will make enough to cover it + some).