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March 20, 2019, 09:47:24 AM
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I've an ordered something and sent bitcoins normally with electrum 5 days ago.But the orde progressing stuck at "waiting confirmations" step.When ı tell it to support they said There is a double spend problem u have to wait until we'll solve it.I can't understand is the problem with me or their system? What can ı do . I guess the money went to their wallet twice.I can't understanding.

İt's transaction ID: 8e2ba5985a025caa11cc109b57160aeb3ae542cc4d86fe6450eb2034cf6226cc
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March 20, 2019, 10:07:27 AM
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In what site you made the order, I dont see something wrong with the tx id. Perhaps the problem is at the site where you made the order. What you can do is keep on asking the support of the site, as they are the one who can solve the problem. It seems that the site got some double spend attacks that forces them to verify everything manually.
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March 20, 2019, 10:09:14 AM
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As far as i know double spending issued get resolve automatically,basically there are people who abuse that double spending trick way back 2017 to trick sellers/merchants on p2p trading system,ive read that double  spent bitcoins still gets to the seller account ( to the address you sent the bitcoin) but it will take a really long time

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March 20, 2019, 10:31:44 AM
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As far as i know double spending issued get resolve automatically,basically there are people who abuse that double spending trick way back 2017 to trick sellers/merchants on p2p trading system,ive read that double  spent bitcoins still gets to the seller account ( to the address you sent the bitcoin) but it will take a really long time

I think you miss understood me dude ı don't want to do double spend everything done spontaneously
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March 20, 2019, 10:43:54 AM
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In what site you made the order, I dont see something wrong with the tx id. Perhaps the problem is at the site where you made the order. What you can do is keep on asking the support of the site, as they are the one who can solve the problem. It seems that the site got some double spend attacks that forces them to verify everything manually.


I understand . Can you guess when it will be solved? İt's been 5 days.
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March 20, 2019, 10:59:17 AM
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Centralized Websites do give such lame reasons while trying to scam newbies. Double spending doesn't occur as we wish and it is quite not simple to perform such attacks. Going by the txid the transaction has been included in block #567176 and has got more than 750+ confirmations till now. Either they are trying to scam you or you need to pressurize them to get your money back.

I guess the money went to their wallet twice.I can't understanding.
Is 3E2M262zMphpi6mCd6NvZfA113QcbTxWKr the receiving address of the website? I don't see any such transactions to their wallet twice. The first tx is that you have sent 0.0065 and second one is that they have withdrawn the amount and moved it to another one of their wallets.

Last year I was caught in a similar situation. I used the MEW bity service and sent btc from my wallet to their address for Btc - Eth swap. The tx got enough confirmations and the page didn't redirect further nor I got my eth in my wallet. Then it took around 3 days for me to follow them and get my eth back to my wallet. After such instances, I have stopped using such stupid centralized services.
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March 20, 2019, 11:14:31 AM
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Centralized Websites do give such lame reasons while trying to scam newbies. Double spending doesn't occur as we wish and it is quite not simple to perform such attacks. Going by the txid the transaction has been included in block #567176 and has got more than 750+ confirmations till now. Either they are trying to scam you or you need to pressurize them to get your money back.

I guess the money went to their wallet twice.I can't understanding.
Is 3E2M262zMphpi6mCd6NvZfA113QcbTxWKr the receiving address of the website? I don't see any such transactions to their wallet twice. The first tx is that you have sent 0.0065 and second one is that they have withdrawn the amount and moved it to another one of their wallets.

Last year I was caught in a similar situation. I used the MEW bity service and sent btc from my wallet to their address for Btc - Eth swap. The tx got enough confirmations and the page didn't redirect further nor I got my eth in my wallet. Then it took around 3 days for me to follow them and get my eth back to my wallet. After such instances, I have stopped using such stupid centralized services.


Yes  3E2M262zMphpi6mCd6NvZfA113QcbTxWKr is their receiving adress. what should ı do ı am sure they are not scamming me ı could refund from them before and ı ordered another things before.
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March 20, 2019, 11:40:20 AM
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blhacked, your transaction is properly sent and has almost 800 confirmation. What that service is saying is that you try to double-spend same coins sended to them, and since you did not that for some reason problem is in their service. You should write to their support with indisputable evidence that bitcoin is on address they provide for payment, and that there is no problem with double-spend.

This is link with your transaction : https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/8e2ba5985a025caa11cc109b57160aeb3ae542cc4d86fe6450eb2034cf6226cc

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March 20, 2019, 11:57:59 AM
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blhacked, your transaction is properly sent and has almost 800 confirmation. What that service is saying is that you try to double-spend same coins sended to them, and since you did not that for some reason problem is in their service. You should write to their support with indisputable evidence that bitcoin is on address they provide for payment, and that there is no problem with double-spend.

This is link with your transaction : https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/8e2ba5985a025caa11cc109b57160aeb3ae542cc4d86fe6450eb2034cf6226cc

İs that possible to any double spend error on site ? Because it seems 46 euros order total but ı've ordered 23 euro
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March 20, 2019, 12:30:52 PM
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I tried to track money and ı reached to this adress:
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and it's seems 2 confirmations now
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March 21, 2019, 02:14:12 AM
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There seems to be a lot of confusion here...Huh Undecided

You sent 0.00654146 BTC (~US$26) to 3E2M262zMphpi6mCd6NvZfA113QcbTxWKr around the 15th March, in this transaction: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/8e2ba5985a025caa11cc109b57160aeb3ae542cc4d86fe6450eb2034cf6226cc

What exactly are they claiming? That you didn't send it? That they didn't receive it? or that you didn't send enough? Huh

İs that possible to any double spend error on site ? Because it seems 46 euros order total but ı've ordered 23 euro
Were you supposed to send €46 but you only sent €23? or were you trying to send €23 and they say they got €46? Huh

Note that "Double Spend" is not sending money twice... it doesn't mean you've accidentally sent them 2 transactions or paid the vendor twice etc... it is a (somewhat confusing) term used to describe a situation where you can create and broadcast two different transactions using the same coins.

Generally, this is done to try and trick or scam a receiver of the first transaction that they have been "paid"... but it is the 2nd transaction that gets confirmed, which sends the coins back to the an address owned by the scammer. It is actually quite difficult to pull this off in practice... as most nodes will identify a "double spend transaction" for what it is and refuse it as being "invalid".

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March 21, 2019, 08:55:44 AM
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There seems to be a lot of confusion here...Huh Undecided

You sent 0.00654146 BTC (~US$26) to 3E2M262zMphpi6mCd6NvZfA113QcbTxWKr around the 15th March, in this transaction: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/8e2ba5985a025caa11cc109b57160aeb3ae542cc4d86fe6450eb2034cf6226cc

What exactly are they claiming? That you didn't send it? That they didn't receive it? or that you didn't send enough? Huh

İs that possible to any double spend error on site ? Because it seems 46 euros order total but ı've ordered 23 euro
Were you supposed to send €46 but you only sent €23? or were you trying to send €23 and they say they got €46? Huh

Note that "Double Spend" is not sending money twice... it doesn't mean you've accidentally sent them 2 transactions or paid the vendor twice etc... it is a (somewhat confusing) term used to describe a situation where you can create and broadcast two different transactions using the same coins.

Generally, this is done to try and trick or scam a receiver of the first transaction that they have been "paid"... but it is the 2nd transaction that gets confirmed, which sends the coins back to the an address owned by the scammer. It is actually quite difficult to pull this off in practice... as most nodes will identify a "double spend transaction" for what it is and refuse it as being "invalid".


I supposed to order something and this order's value 23 Euro.But site had an error after ı sent the money and it seems my order valu 46 Euro.
https://anonfile.com/v1o2baTcm1/12_png   İt's a screenshot.I'm really so angry it's been 6 days
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March 22, 2019, 01:28:09 AM
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I supposed to order something and this order's value 23 Euro.But site had an error after ı sent the money and it seems my order valu 46 Euro.
https://anonfile.com/v1o2baTcm1/12_png   İt's a screenshot.I'm really so angry it's been 6 days

That order looks weird. Would you mind telling us which site is this?

Assuming they're legit, looks like their automatic order processing fails to recognise your payment due to difference in total payment (they ask you for 46 euro but you sent 23 euro only based on the order details), so they should revert back to manual verification for this imo. Don't know what caused this error but their order receipt looks strange.

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March 22, 2019, 02:08:18 AM
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I supposed to order something and this order's value 23 Euro.But site had an error after ı sent the money and it seems my order valu 46 Euro.

İt's a screenshot.I'm really so angry it's been 6 days
You still haven't answered the most important question that everyone asked: What is the name of the site?
The invoice (screenshot) looks like came from an unprofessionally designed site which might be a scam.

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March 22, 2019, 07:30:32 AM
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I supposed to order something and this order's value 23 Euro.But site had an error after ı sent the money and it seems my order valu 46 Euro.
https://anonfile.com/v1o2baTcm1/12_png   İt's a screenshot.I'm really so angry it's been 6 days

That order looks weird. Would you mind telling us which site is this?

Assuming they're legit, looks like their automatic order processing fails to recognise your payment due to difference in total payment (they ask you for 46 euro but you sent 23 euro only based on the order details), so they should revert back to manual verification for this imo. Don't know what caused this error but their order receipt looks strange.



I'm thinking it's a error with site because ı've ordered something on here with escrow before.I know the site is reliable but ı can't tell the name of site Cheesy.I'm waiting ı don't have anything to do .
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March 22, 2019, 09:23:43 PM
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You still haven't answered the most important question that everyone asked: What is the name of the site?
The invoice (screenshot) looks like came from an unprofessionally designed site which might be a scam.

(reuploaded your screenshot to imgur to be displayed here)

The image looks no CSS design and it looks like he is dealing on the darknet or deepweb? I never saw this kind of payment request to any well-known payment gateway online.

He might be dealing on the Tor website that is why the payment page looks unprofessional or not well-designed payment page.



I'm thinking it's a error with site because ı've ordered something on here with escrow before.I know the site is reliable but ı can't tell the name of site Cheesy.I'm waiting ı don't have anything to do .

They are asking it because they want to test or check the site if it is legit or scam. So without them, we can't give you a proper answer to why you are having this issue.

It is hard to give a detailed answer without enough details about the issue.

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