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April 06, 2019, 12:42:26 AM
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In my opinion, this is only a natural phenomenon from humans, which is a mistake.

In a post on his Facebook page, Zuckerberg announced, "the future of communication will focus on data protection services, so people will be more confident and feel safe, because messages and content will no longer be stored forever".

I feel much safer, knowing that billions of years in the future, when our Sun has became a red giant star, whose diameter is beyond the orbit of the Earth, and the Earth has burned to a cinder, that our data will no longer be stored.

It will NOT BE STORED FOREVER.

Trick words, and phrases designed to lull you into complacency, are what you have here.
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April 08, 2019, 08:49:41 PM
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In my opinion, this is only a natural phenomenon from humans, which is a mistake.

In a post on his Facebook page, Zuckerberg announced, "the future of communication will focus on data protection services, so people will be more confident and feel safe, because messages and content will no longer be stored forever".

He had a lead cryptographer reach out to him and still didn't take the offer. Idk how safe I feel putting my trust into someone who doesn't even register data protection
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April 11, 2019, 12:34:16 AM
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In my opinion, this is only a natural phenomenon from humans, which is a mistake.

In a post on his Facebook page, Zuckerberg announced, "the future of communication will focus on data protection services, so people will be more confident and feel safe, because messages and content will no longer be stored forever".

He had a lead cryptographer reach out to him and still didn't take the offer. Idk how safe I feel putting my trust into someone who doesn't even register data protection

Real question. does mark even know what cryptography is?
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April 11, 2019, 01:09:52 AM
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Zuckerberg is not the evil genius you think he is. He is just the pawn jew they put in for public appearances.
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April 12, 2019, 08:26:49 PM
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It possible and Facebook WhatsApp and Instagram can operate within the privacy policy after the media giant Facebook is on the way with it plans to created it own Facebook tokens mark have realize the potential of decentralization and the blockchain in he is now ready to tap into it.
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April 12, 2019, 08:57:24 PM
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It possible and Facebook WhatsApp and Instagram can operate within the privacy policy after the media giant Facebook is on the way with it plans to created it own Facebook tokens mark have realize the potential of decentralization and the blockchain in he is now ready to tap into it.

Really the only question here is what can be proven.

Can you prove Zuck is following reasonable privacy policy?

If not, you must assume the worst opposite.

There is no trust or belief in this.

The only way proof is possible is through an open encryption standard.
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April 12, 2019, 09:06:32 PM
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It possible and Facebook WhatsApp and Instagram can operate within the privacy policy after the media giant Facebook is on the way with it plans to created it own Facebook tokens mark have realize the potential of decentralization and the blockchain in he is now ready to tap into it.

You can still capture data even if they use 'end to end encryption' thats what David Chaum is trying to tell people is that through keeping metadata private that is true privacy with his new platform ellixxir
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April 12, 2019, 09:27:00 PM
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It possible and Facebook WhatsApp and Instagram can operate within the privacy policy after the media giant Facebook is on the way with it plans to created it own Facebook tokens mark have realize the potential of decentralization and the blockchain in he is now ready to tap into it.

You can still capture data even if they use 'end to end encryption' thats what David Chaum is trying to tell people is that through keeping metadata private that is true privacy with his new platform ellixxir

Even if all the software is perfect, the hardware itself is full of back doors.
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April 13, 2019, 06:22:10 AM
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Seriously, FB is being marketed as a privacy watchdog now?  Grin

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There's a big difference between Marketing and Spying.....
Not after Spying became a necessary and profitable tool for Marketing.

Even without snooping, the amount of data they can legitimately look into and aggregate gives them so much insight into our patterns. It's not about Facebook but a grocery chain but I remember reading a book (I believe the title is Numerati) where a father complained that they started receiving pamphlets for baby care products but then later sent the store an apology letter. It turns out their algorithm correctly predicted the daughter is pregnant - even before she found out! Just imagine how much more data FB have access to.
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April 13, 2019, 07:35:12 AM
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Seriously, FB is being marketed as a privacy watchdog now?  Grin

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There's a big difference between Marketing and Spying.....
Not after Spying became a necessary and profitable tool for Marketing.

Even without snooping, the amount of data they can legitimately look into and aggregate gives them so much insight into our patterns. It's not about Facebook but a grocery chain but I remember reading a book (I believe the title is Numerati) where a father complained that they started receiving pamphlets for baby care products but then later sent the store an apology letter. It turns out their algorithm correctly predicted the daughter is pregnant - even before she found out! Just imagine how much more data FB have access to.

This is how they continue to operate. People refuse to acknowledge how much power they give these companies because it is too terrifying to even look at objectively, so they choose to ignore it and go back to their Facefucks, Twatters, and Googlags feeding them more and more as they bury their heads in the sand.
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April 13, 2019, 09:27:49 AM
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How can you say that Mark Zuckerberg wont like privacy?
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April 13, 2019, 02:56:32 PM
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How can you say that Mark Zuckerberg wont like privacy?
Data protection should always be implemented. However, it is really hard to let a person keep it if you don't trust them. Mark Zuckerberg is a great person, a simple one but we won't even know who are the people he is with today. Even though the CEO is the best one to trust, we also have to mind the people behind his operations.

Mark Zuckerberg's founded company Facebook has made a critical decision yesterday with nominating Peggy Alford to join their board. Peggy has deep experience in many areas related to commerce and will also be a person who could solve this privacy issue. Facebook became the largest social media platform globally and the government is looking for something that they can see as a loophole to find a vulnerable spot and attack.
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April 13, 2019, 11:52:48 PM
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How can you say that Mark Zuckerberg wont like privacy?
Data protection should always be implemented. However, it is really hard to let a person keep it if you don't trust them. Mark Zuckerberg is a great person....

There is no need to say things like this, for which there is no basis.

We are discussing a subject, the direction of which indicates directly that he is a very evil person.

Face it.
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April 14, 2019, 12:25:07 AM
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Seriously, FB is being marketed as a privacy watchdog now?  Grin

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There's a big difference between Marketing and Spying.....
Not after Spying became a necessary and profitable tool for Marketing.
...I remember reading a book (I believe the title is Numerati) where a father complained that they started receiving pamphlets for baby care products but then later sent the store an apology letter. It turns out their algorithm correctly predicted the daughter is pregnant - even before she found out!...

Who says this lame story pushed by a Fuckbook lawyer paid to protect Fuckbook should be believe for one microsecond?

This is the kind of BS that has to be instantly DISBELIEVED.
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April 14, 2019, 06:13:53 AM
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I think everything is a game of words that are beautiful to never be fulfilled, I think it is a hoax and that everything is part of a plan where the main thing is to decipher the anonymity in which many people exercise their full right to do so. I do not think that initiative will go very far and if it is fulfilled I think some will no longer use these networks. I think that nothing is safe, today everything is very easy to decipher if you have the right computer tools, everything is traceable, except for those who know the art of disappearance without a trace on the web.

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April 14, 2019, 10:35:39 PM
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Downloading My Private Google Data, this is what I found

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April 15, 2019, 09:39:24 AM
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Seriously, FB is being marketed as a privacy watchdog now?  Grin

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This is how they continue to operate. People refuse to acknowledge how much power they give these companies because it is too terrifying to even look at objectively, so they choose to ignore it and go back to their Facefucks, Twatters, and Googlags feeding them more and more as they bury their heads in the sand.

If the product is free, you likely are the product. If only it's all innocuous as Target sending you a coupon for a crib coz they predicted through you buying pattern that you likely are pregnant. But it's not, as that Cambridge Analytica scandal has shown.

We can try to give them the middle finger by switching platforms but at this point they've already become large enough to buy up or outright destroy competing startups. And they already have our data anyway.
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April 17, 2019, 01:27:32 AM
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Seriously, FB is being marketed as a privacy watchdog now?  Grin

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This is how they continue to operate. People refuse to acknowledge how much power they give these companies because it is too terrifying to even look at objectively, so they choose to ignore it and go back to their Facefucks, Twatters, and Googlags feeding them more and more as they bury their heads in the sand.

If the product is free, you likely are the product. If only it's all innocuous as Target sending you a coupon for a crib coz they predicted through you buying pattern that you likely are pregnant. But it's not, as that Cambridge Analytica scandal has shown.

We can try to give them the middle finger by switching platforms but at this point they've already become large enough to buy up or outright destroy competing startups. And they already have our data anyway.


Couldn't have said it better "if the product is free, you're likely the product'
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April 17, 2019, 12:59:59 PM
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We can try to give them the middle finger by switching platforms but at this point they've already become large enough to buy up or outright destroy competing startups. And they already have our data anyway.

There is no cause for hopelessness.

As an example, suppose you dl an app to your phone, it wants you to set up an account using your facebook (or google) login before it activates.

You would be giving your FB info to some totally unknown small company. Regardless of how evil FB is, this is still a step not to take.

Many, many examples like this exist.
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April 17, 2019, 08:56:44 PM
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,,,,,
We can try to give them the middle finger by switching platforms but at this point they've already become large enough to buy up or outright destroy competing startups. And they already have our data anyway.

There is no cause for hopelessness.

As an example, suppose you dl an app to your phone, it wants you to set up an account using your facebook (or google) login before it activates.

You would be giving your FB info to some totally unknown small company. Regardless of how evil FB is, this is still a step not to take.

Many, many examples like this exist.

I share the same mentality. I am not naive enough to think they will not get my information, because no matter what I do I have friends, family, or associates who use those products and feed them my personal details without my permission or knowledge regardless of all their little subplatforms. The way I see it I can at least not submit my consent to these groups and make sure they get slightly less detailed information while at least knowing personally I never willingly went along with their systems.
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