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March 25, 2019, 03:46:55 AM |
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As what we see in the past 6 years. The price of bitcoin will increase this year and my estimate for the price will reach to 6,000 USD this November.And the reason behind is the booming of Lightning Network and the Lapps that base on LN.
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March 25, 2019, 04:55:46 AM |
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to reach such a low target as $6000 you don't need something as big as Lightning Network! $6k will be reached so much easier even without any kind of hype whatsoever.
besides the only way Lightning Network is going to contribute to price rise is if it starts being used in something big like by some exchanges or some big businesses,... in short we need it to be adopted. and so far although it has been growing so much lately i don't see that kind of adoption in it. and it is still in beta and kind of buggy. and when that happens you can think about new ATH instead of a low price like $6k!!!
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March 25, 2019, 09:02:25 AM |
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Price will grow when whales will be ready. Not when good news will appear. We are no longer in bull market where good news pumps x2. We are in bear market where average investor is to scared that its last year of bitcoin. No matter if with or without LN. Slow down. Firstly we need to break 4k resistance and huge sell walls in 5200-6000 range. Good news is that price didn't drop after CBOE delisting bitcoin futures news meas that there are no panic sellers anymore. Weak hands left their bitcoins after breaking 6k support. https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/03/cboe-delists-bitcoin-good-or-bad-news/
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March 25, 2019, 09:46:15 AM |
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Price will grow when whales will be ready. Not when good news will appear. We are no longer in bull market where good news pumps x2. We are in bear market where average investor is to scared that its last year of bitcoin. No matter if with or without LN. Slow down. Firstly we need to break 4k resistance and huge sell walls in 5200-6000 range. Good news is that price didn't drop after CBOE delisting bitcoin futures news meas that there are no panic sellers anymore. Weak hands left their bitcoins after breaking 6k support. https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/03/cboe-delists-bitcoin-good-or-bad-news/We’re at the very end of the bear market, possibly beginning to transition into bull market. This is the accumulation phase, time to buy cheap coins. $6,000 may take some time to be breached though, maybe the end of 2019.
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March 25, 2019, 10:55:24 AM |
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Price will grow when whales will be ready. Not when good news will appear. We are no longer in bull market where good news pumps x2. We are in bear market where average investor is to scared that its last year of bitcoin. No matter if with or without LN. Slow down. Firstly we need to break 4k resistance and huge sell walls in 5200-6000 range. Good news is that price didn't drop after CBOE delisting bitcoin futures news meas that there are no panic sellers anymore. Weak hands left their bitcoins after breaking 6k support. https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/03/cboe-delists-bitcoin-good-or-bad-news/We’re at the very end of the bear market, possibly beginning to transition into bull market. This is the accumulation phase, time to buy cheap coins. $6,000 may take some time to be breached though, maybe the end of 2019. Most of the time expectation never comes true so we are all accepting the current situation. But everyone said bear market was end and bull run will soon so we need solid proof of big jump in crypto market otherwise all are panic to participate in Bitcoin investment. I believe end of the year some big pump will occur in Bitcoin so we must buy more crypto is good decision.
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March 25, 2019, 11:48:02 AM |
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Given the importance of bitcoin futures, this is not good or bad news, actually is completely insignificant and therefore does not affect on crypto market. As stated in the article this decision is very likely to have a connection with "growing lack of interest in Bitcoin", and "very low volatility".
Lightning Network is great achievement for bitcoin, but probably it will pass a few more years before it becomes applicable to broad masses. We have SegWit for some time, and fact that it is not so complicated as LN, but still many users do not know what is it all about, shows us that things are developing pretty slowly. LN is just one thing, though very important, but can not change what most people are interested in, and that's the price.
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March 25, 2019, 12:09:40 PM |
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As what we see in the past 6 years. The price of bitcoin will increase this year and my estimate for the price will reach to 6,000 USD this November.And the reason behind is the booming of Lightning Network and the Lapps that base on LN.
Lol,it's 2019 not 2017. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) All the hype regarding LN and it's large impact over the future bitcoin price is over. A 6K USD bitcoin price after 7 months is a pretty conservative prediction.I'm expecting something around 10K. So the applications that are based on LN are called Lapps.Damn,today I learned something new from a low quality forum post. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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March 25, 2019, 12:32:40 PM |
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People are so eager for price to go up again that they are thinking about all possible reasons, arguments and techiques and technologies that could help that happen. But Bitcoin market has its own rules that should be taken into account. Personaly I don't think that LN could influence the price significantly and besides it's not applicable widely.
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March 25, 2019, 12:34:01 PM |
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Price will grow when whales will be ready. Not when good news will appear. We are no longer in bull market where good news pumps x2. We are in bear market where average investor is to scared that its last year of bitcoin. No matter if with or without LN.
we haven't been in a bear market for some time now but the fear is still there in the market because last time the drop was unexpected and manipulated. otherwise we would have been rising already. but i agree that with current market news like this can not change the trend.
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March 25, 2019, 12:34:39 PM |
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I'm not sure the Lightning Network will (drastically or not) increase the price. People will not bother reading about what LN brings to Bitcoin, they will not understand it and they will not feel concerned, like what happened with SegWit. (I am talking about people who aren't yet a crypto user) Also not everyone will want to use LN, whatever reason they have.
This does not prevent the price from reaching $6,000 as the OP expects and there is a good chance that this will happen, but it will happen without LN. Sure we will surely notice a boost from some days but nothing spectacular to expect.
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March 25, 2019, 01:01:17 PM |
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Price will grow as usual due to the incoming events that like halving which is going to be months away by November. Though it will take place by May 2020, some would take it earlier than expected just to be prepared if market takes off.
$6,000 seems to be fine unlike the high predictions that we have heard lately.
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March 25, 2019, 01:14:57 PM |
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We actually need more investors, the feature and the technology of bitcoin for now is enough for people to do transaction and without the lightning we can achieve 6k,the problems now lies in the adoption and investors, I don't see people ever complain again about the speed of the transaction, so I don't think the lightning network is one of the factor that could trigger bull market
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March 25, 2019, 01:33:10 PM |
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$6,000 seems to be fine unlike the high predictions that we have heard lately.
It may seem fine, but it's questionable at the same time. The support level that kept the price above the $6000 mark for so long will form a massive resistance level keeping the price below $6000 for a long time. It doesn't happen all that often in any market that such important resistance levels get broken through without a fundamental change to the asset or stock turning investors into bulls. I remained conservative above $6000 and I still am at current levels. Bitcoin is a speculative asset class at the end of the day, and one that doesn't have a revenue or profit stream to use as measuring stick.
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March 25, 2019, 02:07:22 PM |
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Perhaps it may not be LN that will be the main reason for a push, but some other things. I sense something is happening lately, with high volumes on certain exchanges plus there seems to be no definite movement as to where this market will go. The hype for LN has long been dead, and even the ETFs and futures are on the list of dead hype trends, too, so they are out of the equation as well. $6000 is a realistic estimate for an 8-month journey, though I expect something more, but then again it will depend on what event will spark such movement.
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March 25, 2019, 02:09:05 PM |
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LN is a great technology and it certainly makes it so much better for people to send and receive money. Lets face it one of the biggest challenges during the 2017 peak time at 20 thousand dollars was people sending each other money like crazy and while everyone was buying and selling and all that they had to spend as much as 30 dollar sometimes for it.
I remember receiving 700 dollars for something and it was sent with 33 dollars transaction fee, that was unsustainable and of course the price eventually dropped. This does allow bitcoin to go up a lot more and quickly, I can't say "November" or "6 thousand dollars" because it makes it an objective result but I can say "sometime in the future" and "will go up" because those two things are for sure in my mind, it will certainly happen.
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March 25, 2019, 02:26:50 PM |
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OK. I'm all for Lighting Network and seriously, can't wait to find one of my regular merchants one day telling me they've gone LN. But if LN's had anything to do with price increases, then it hasn't had desired effect in the past year of adoption (which, btw, has really exceeded expectations). Not that I wouldn't welcome it, but I think BTC price has managed to overturn expectations... rising in the face of crisis and plunging at the height of payment tech development.
P.S. I don't think the 30-dollar fees was really about people sending bitcoin to each other like crazy. That was probably speculator transactions... trading, exchanges, altcoin exchange... but that's just my opinion.
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March 25, 2019, 02:41:58 PM |
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Price will grow when whales will be ready. Not when good news will appear. We are no longer in bull market where good news pumps x2. We are in bear market where average investor is to scared that its last year of bitcoin. No matter if with or without LN. Slow down. Firstly we need to break 4k resistance and huge sell walls in 5200-6000 range. Good news is that price didn't drop after CBOE delisting bitcoin futures news meas that there are no panic sellers anymore. Weak hands left their bitcoins after breaking 6k support. https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/03/cboe-delists-bit[Suspicious link removed]d-or-bad-news/ We’re at the very end of the bear market, possibly beginning to transition into bull market. This is the accumulation phase, time to buy cheap coins. $6,000 may take some time to be breached though, maybe the end of 2019. Yeah,that`s why i said in November.
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March 25, 2019, 02:44:45 PM |
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As what we see in the past 6 years. The price of bitcoin will increase this year and my estimate for the price will reach to 6,000 USD this November.And the reason behind is the booming of Lightning Network and the Lapps that base on LN.
Well i think that we hit rock bottom at around 100b market cap (total crypto sector). So speculating a BTC price of 6k usd by November is a very realistic goal. To be honest i will be somewhat disaponted if it is only at 6k after 8 months...
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March 25, 2019, 02:48:47 PM |
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Price will grow when whales will be ready. Not when good news will appear. We are no longer in bull market where good news pumps x2. We are in bear market where average investor is to scared that its last year of bitcoin. No matter if with or without LN. Slow down. Firstly we need to break 4k resistance and huge sell walls in 5200-6000 range. Good news is that price didn't drop after CBOE delisting bitcoin futures news meas that there are no panic sellers anymore. Weak hands left their bitcoins after breaking 6k support. https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/03/cboe-delists-bit[Suspicious link removed]d-or-bad-news/ Since Cobe does not share a big market. It is just a news nothing else. And yes we do not have anything to loose now, cause we already in the bottom.
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I'm very intrigued to see how it pans out.
Outside a few enthusiast circles no one seems to pay much attention or have any understanding of it. The main LN thread on here is several months old and it's only about 20 pages still. I'm part of the furniture here and beyond the barest of ideas I couldn't explain it to someone properly.
I think its effect is going to be far more subtle than most expect. Unlike your average shitcoin there is no launch date, there is no weird baldie hyping it on stage. It's going to slowly sneak up.
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