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Time and again we are just worrying about one thing and that is *the improvements in Bitcoins*. What it can do better to tackle the new currencies , how it is still at the top of the game and why should people start choosing it. I stumbled accross this article and it seemed pretty interesting to me since it answered many of the questions. But it was over technical thus let me simplify it. There are few things that are going to Mark a jump in our beloved cryptocurrency . They are as following:- - Bitcoins is going to become more private
- It will have better support for the lightning network
- The lightning network will be integrated with mobile( it's still working though )
- The block chain won't gain size , it will try and stay small
[/list] Also there will be a upcoming fork most probably and many companies are thinking of investing in 2020. Let's explain every single one of them listed above now :- 1. Privacy: Now the transactions are made on a public ledger so they are easily trackable but some users try to make it invisible using *multisig* that is multiple inputs so it makes it difficult to track. Now as deviced by Schnorr signatures they are going to allow one signature to allow all of the input broadcast, right now we need one signature one input. This will make sure that no one will be able to know from where the money came from and from where it going. 2.Right now lightning network caused many people to loose their funds so system integration is needed here. There has been proposed a solution called eltoo which kills the older version or intermediate version of events and ensure only the latest ones. The reason it's important is because some users make mistakes and submit the older version so it can cause them to loose a lot of money. But right now you cannot reverse what you do therefore, a new code has to be integrated by the core developers for this to work properly. 3. The reason we use a wallet is because the block chain itself is a lot for a mobile to handle. Bitcoin is something that gives us full privacy and we can use it without the wallet itself but that's impossible right now , who will let 208 giga bytes into their mobile ? Therefore wallets are a good solution. But what if a wallet went down and was shut ? It will cause all the holders loose a lot of money and that's not something that can be resolved easily. We are now building a SPV lightning client called neutrino that will allow us to keep this block weight to minimum and we won't have to use any third party or wallet. It would be easily integrated with our mobiles without us buying more space , like moooooorrreee much more space because right now it's impossible without the wallets. 4. Since smaller block chain is easy to handle and at the same time it makes it easier to run the node therefore there are things that are being programmed to make it stay small and stop growing fat overtime. One option is using MAST transactions that was proposed in 2017 but not taken into account because of some reasons . But now we have an alternative option that is * TAPROOT* which is equivalent to MAST transaction but more importantly they don't seem different from the normal ones and thats the reason MAST wasn't getting Integrated yet. Are there some other things that you know for sure that are gonna get Integrated ? Comment down below and let's discuss about this.
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I stumbled accross this article and it seemed pretty interesting to me since it answered many of the questions. But it was over technical thus let me simplify it. There are few things that are going to Mark a jump in our beloved cryptocurrency . They are as following:- - Bitcoins is going to become more private
I don't think bitcoin needs to be private more than ever. It works on where it is right now and IMO that doesn't need to change. Many privacy freaks could use any other form of money or crypto if they wish. - It will have better support for the lightning network
This is one of the things I'm wondering about: why would the bitcoin client complement the specifications and technicalities of the lightning network when the lightning network itself should adjust to bitcoin's specification and technicalities? Again, I don't hate LN all in all but being an off-chain, independent solution for congestion, it should have its own ways of addressing what 'incompatibilities' it may have with bitcoin. - The lightning network will be integrated with mobile( it's still working though )
Does it need to be centered about LN, always, and not bitcoin? - The block chain won't gain size , it will try and stay small
Impossible, unless someone would come up with a bright solution that would technically render any next blocks to not fill up hard drive storage. It will try to stay small and cram many transactions inside a block but it's a given that as time passes by, blockchain would gain and gain in terms of size.
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In my opinion, Bitcoin is perfect the way it was if there is a need for an upgrade may be the things that add up to bitcoin that need an adjustment to collaborate with bitcoin, this cryptocurrency is perfect the way it was and I really think there is no need for adjustments, We are seeing the past Fork that there is no change at all with bitcoin but actually produce another coin that is separated with Bitcoin, I truly think that we don't need another coin from bitcoin but bitcoin alone.
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March 26, 2019, 04:54:14 PM |
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In my opinion, Bitcoin is perfect the way it was if there is a need for an upgrade may be the things that add up to bitcoin that need an adjustment to collaborate with bitcoin, this cryptocurrency is perfect the way it was and I really think there is no need for adjustments, We are seeing the past Fork that there is no change at all with bitcoin but actually produce another coin that is separated with Bitcoin, I truly think that we don't need another coin from bitcoin but bitcoin alone.
I think I don't agree with he fact that there is no need for adjustments. Because in simple words * would you still use a mobile from 2000?* Why do we need upgradations ? The reason we need upgradations is because new things are established and old things are improved for good. Bitcoin is very advanced in a way it was amazing that someone could come up with something like that that too in 2009 and the fact that it's able to survive till 2019 and jot taken over by any coin until now is really amazing but we need to remember this that there are faults itself here . For example let's compare it with the etherum , but keep in mind that it's not something that competing with Bitcoin it's a very different source but at the same time the time it takes to confirm transactions is seconds and about our Bitcoins ? We need to pay high fee . The only reason this exists is because etherum was programmed in 2014 and the programming language is a little bit better , ofc Bitcoin was the base for every coin but yet it needs to be upgraded to save it's place . Upgradation is needed as self improvement , rather not as generating any other coin because even I agree on that point it's useless to fork.
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March 26, 2019, 04:59:08 PM |
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I stumbled accross this article and it seemed pretty interesting to me since it answered many of the questions. But it was over technical thus let me simplify it. There are few things that are going to Mark a jump in our beloved cryptocurrency . They are as following:- - Bitcoins is going to become more private
I don't think bitcoin needs to be private more than ever. It works on where it is right now and IMO that doesn't need to change. Many privacy freaks could use any other form of money or crypto if they wish. - It will have better support for the lightning network
This is one of the things I'm wondering about: why would the bitcoin client complement the specifications and technicalities of the lightning network when the lightning network itself should adjust to bitcoin's specification and technicalities? Again, I don't hate LN all in all but being an off-chain, independent solution for congestion, it should have its own ways of addressing what 'incompatibilities' it may have with bitcoin. - The lightning network will be integrated with mobile( it's still working though )
Does it need to be centered about LN, always, and not bitcoin? - The block chain won't gain size , it will try and stay small
Impossible, unless someone would come up with a bright solution that would technically render any next blocks to not fill up hard drive storage. It will try to stay small and cram many transactions inside a block but it's a given that as time passes by, blockchain would gain and gain in terms of size. By the way I wonder if you would have noticed that the transactions are stored in the blockchain and one can easily see any transaction and then redirect to the address it's going to and the fact that this address is usually tied to our personal identities is the fact it's easily trackable. The reason why our wallet always pops up an option like * use another address * is the reason because if we use the same address at many places we become trackable . It's pseudo transparent, it still have many flaws when it comes to tracking. Because most wallet companies now require full identification our information is actually stored in the blockchain , every move is monitored and can be taken action against if something happens.[/list][/list]
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The most optimal thing that the bitcoin team can do for users is to further optimize the fee for transferring bitcoins to other wallets. The smaller the Commission, the more demand it will have. In addition, it is better to consider the acceleration of the transaction speed for this blockchain as it is one of the slowest in connection with its long-standing existence.
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The most optimal thing that the bitcoin team can do for users is to further optimize the fee for transferring bitcoins to other wallets. The smaller the Commission, the more demand it will have. In addition, it is better to consider the acceleration of the transaction speed for this blockchain as it is one of the slowest in connection with its long-standing existence.
In some points optimizing it is good but upgrading bitcoin is better but let the developers put this implementation since bitcoin is still a developing program and it has a lots of room for improvement. There must be a "first things first" on their list and by upgrading it would also occur a hard fork which could lead to make another altcoin.
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i think, that is enough., very perfect, BTC integration in the future will be a good mainstream, BTC will have integration with every social media, easily, and the spread of BTC reaches climax, every transaction is crypto / BTC. THE FUTURE IS BTC
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There are few things that are going to Mark a jump in our beloved cryptocurrency .
They are as following:- Bitcoins is going to become more private It will have better support for the lightning network The lightning network will be integrated with mobile( it's still working though ) The block chain won't gain size , it will try and stay small. 1. Isn't it already private? Is there any other fiat currency available that is more private than bitcoin? I am not comparing it with any other tor or onion initiative though! 2 and 3. Lightening network is indeed a very important initiative that is going to have a long lasting effect on bitcoin network in a positive way. Once it is fully implemented, the cost and time of transactions will come down to a very nominal level which will definitely a step closer to mainstream adoption. We already have mobile wallets available for bitcoin lightening network. The technology is already there but we all are lacking from the acceptability perspective. 4. Small blockchain size would not excite a lot of persons from the cryptospace as it doesn't have any impact on the acceptability. Bitcoin is popular but can we really buy our daily needs using it? Not really! The development on that perspective should start getting some momentum for a holistic improvement.
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If bitcoin needs to upgrade, then it will be improved because the technology will always develop in a better way. We always need to upgrade something, and it's not just a "thing" but for ourselves too. We adjust many things so it could be used for the situations and conditions we lived. So if in the future, the era will change, then I think everything will be upgraded including the blockchain technology itself. I think right now, and we see many things were change comparing to the last 5 years ago, we saw many projects develop and grow, it fills what we want although not much of them was already did that.
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I think bitcoin is already good. But I want some improvement but I don't know if my idea is possible. What if?We can use and we can process our transaction without using internet. When it's happened I think we can do transaction more cheaper because we don't need load to have an internet connection to use in bitcoin transaction.
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The Lightning Network is just one second layer solution that was developed to solve Bitcoin's scaling problems, I foresee a future where we will see improvements on the Bitcoin protocol, where even the Lightning Network will be obsolete. I think one of the main reasons why the Lightning Network was developed was that we needed a fast solution to address the scaling problems and the developers did not want to implement something that would compromise the integrity of the core Bitcoin protocol. We will also see a lot more second layer solutions like the Lightning Network that might solve other problems. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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What the bitcoin team can do for users is to further optimize the cost of transferring bitcoin to another wallet In some ways optimizing it is good but increasing bitcoin is better but let the developers implement this because bitcoin is still a development program and has plenty of room for improvement. There must be "first things first" on their list and by updating them there will also be a strong branching that can lead to other altcoins.
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You stumbled across an article,but there's no link to it and no credit for the article author. Who is the article author?He sounds like some bitcoin core developer that has control over the blockchain and plans to implement those improvements(which is highly unlikely to be true). ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Interesting ideas,though...
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I stumbled accross this article and it seemed pretty interesting to me since it answered many of the questions. But it was over technical thus let me simplify it. There are few things that are going to Mark a jump in our beloved cryptocurrency . They are as following:- - Bitcoins is going to become more private
I don't think bitcoin needs to be private more than ever. It works on where it is right now and IMO that doesn't need to change. Many privacy freaks could use any other form of money or crypto if they wish. - It will have better support for the lightning network
This is one of the things I'm wondering about: why would the bitcoin client complement the specifications and technicalities of the lightning network when the lightning network itself should adjust to bitcoin's specification and technicalities? Again, I don't hate LN all in all but being an off-chain, independent solution for congestion, it should have its own ways of addressing what 'incompatibilities' it may have with bitcoin. - The lightning network will be integrated with mobile( it's still working though )
Does it need to be centered about LN, always, and not bitcoin? - The block chain won't gain size , it will try and stay small
Impossible, unless someone would come up with a bright solution that would technically render any next blocks to not fill up hard drive storage. It will try to stay small and cram many transactions inside a block but it's a given that as time passes by, blockchain would gain and gain in terms of size. By the way I wonder if you would have noticed that the transactions are stored in the blockchain and one can easily see any transaction and then redirect to the address it's going to and the fact that this address is usually tied to our personal identities is the fact it's easily trackable. The reason why our wallet always pops up an option like * use another address * is the reason because if we use the same address at many places we become trackable . It's pseudo transparent, it still have many flaws when it comes to tracking. Because most wallet companies now require full identification our information is actually stored in the blockchain , every move is monitored and can be taken action against if something happens.[/list][/list] Actually there are some ways of create a untraceable transaction. And these ways not so hard. If you want to use it, you can do it easily. And todays, Bitcoin adress can connect our information but in future if everyone use it I think it will get harder. We create a real decentralization. Then all problem easily will be solved.
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1. Isn't it already private? Is there any other fiat currency available that is more private than bitcoin? I am not comparing it with any other tor or onion initiative though!
2 and 3. Lightening network is indeed a very important initiative that is going to have a long lasting effect on bitcoin network in a positive way. Once it is fully implemented, the cost and time of transactions will come down to a very nominal level which will definitely a step closer to mainstream adoption.
We already have mobile wallets available for bitcoin lightening network. The technology is already there but we all are lacking from the acceptability perspective.
4. Small blockchain size would not excite a lot of persons from the cryptospace as it doesn't have any impact on the acceptability. Bitcoin is popular but can we really buy our daily needs using it? Not really! The development on that perspective should start getting some momentum for a holistic improvement.
1. Cash is private. No matter what currency you use. it is hard to say what is more private but that's the fact. 2.3. Then you will just have to convince people to use bitcoin. Even not you can buy literally everything you want for it. 4. That is why someone is developing LN
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I think bitcoin is good. But I want some improvements so that it will be improved because the technology will always develop in a better way. We always need to improve something, and it's not just "things" but for ourselves too. We adjust many things so that they can be used for the situations and conditions we live in. So if in the future, the era will change, then I think everything will be improved including the blockchain technology itself. I think now, and we see a lot of things changing compared to 5 years ago, we see a lot of projects developing and growing, fulfilling what we want even though not much
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I do not think Bitcoin needs significant improvements in the future because it's good as it is. Your comparison is not very good with upgrading to your phone. Upgrading to the phone comes from the need for greater security against hacking. Bitcoin uses a decentralized system, and hacking is almost impossible. The only "upgrades" that can be made are trading exchanges, both for their security and investor investment, as well as adjustments to transaction taxes.
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March 27, 2019, 04:42:16 PM |
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I do not think Bitcoin needs significant improvements in the future because it's good as it is. Your comparison is not very good with upgrading to your phone. Upgrading to the phone comes from the need for greater security against hacking. Bitcoin uses a decentralized system, and hacking is almost impossible. The only "upgrades" that can be made are trading exchanges, both for their security and investor investment, as well as adjustments to transaction taxes.
I will say is too early for everyone of us to decide the future improvement of bitcoin network because we still have a long way to go and as time goes on the change needed will show out itself. However, I also believe the community to the platform which will ease the uses of bitcoin as per the mainstream issue.
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The Lightning Network is just one second layer solution that was developed to solve Bitcoin's scaling problems, I foresee a future where we will see improvements on the Bitcoin protocol, where even the Lightning Network will be obsolete. I think one of the main reasons why the Lightning Network was developed was that we needed a fast solution to address the scaling problems and the developers did not want to implement something that would compromise the integrity of the core Bitcoin protocol. We will also see a lot more second layer solutions like the Lightning Network that might solve other problems. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) The lightning network was not a solution from bitcoin developers. This network is quite complex for practical application gives some failures. Because of the existing vulnerabilities, they wanted to use it only for conducting small transactions. Therefore, I do not really hope for a network of lightning. Bitcoin really needs to be improved for a long time, and first of all in increasing its scale. While this problem has not been solved for a long time.
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