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March 26, 2019, 01:01:30 PM
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20190402

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ORIGINAL QUESTION

Hello there,

I am trying to understand who is going to pay 1500+ $ for raw Binance historic data... https://coinograph.io/binance-historical-data/ | https://www.kaiko.com/pages/kaiko-pricing

I am trying to develop such a service but with a fee of 100~200 $.

What do you think?

Will anyone here, be interested in such service?

What price do you think is fair?

Thanks a lot.
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March 26, 2019, 11:26:07 PM
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Just use it for your own good mate, you might make a fortune on that. So far, i think no one has fall for it as you mentioned since the cost too was very high and why would you have to make a service from raw trading data when most people can do it on their own? A lot of information is widely scattered all over the internet and people can just simply use it to analyze everything.
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March 26, 2019, 11:46:52 PM
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They don't need to pay for raw or historical data for trading because you can just get it free from well-known tools online.

Check this sample of historical data below.

- https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/binance-coin/historical_data/usd
- https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/binance-coin/historical-data/

So you don't need to offer a service like this because no one would be interested.

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March 27, 2019, 07:11:18 AM
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They don't need to pay for raw or historical data for trading because you can just get it free from well-known tools online.

Check this sample of historical data below.

- https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/binance-coin/historical_data/usd
- https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/binance-coin/historical-data/

So you don't need to offer a service like this because no one would be interested.

Thank you for your answer.

I am talking for tick by tick raw data - all trades.

Can you find this kind of info for free?

Ty in advance!
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March 27, 2019, 07:28:36 AM
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...since the cost too was very high and why would you have to make a service from raw trading data when most people can do it on their own?

I don't think that the average trader can make a service like this, (I am talking for tick by tick raw data), since it is a very challenging (+expensive) project.

Since the prices out there is out of reach for many traders (like me), I was thinking to only charge a fair amount after expenses.

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March 27, 2019, 07:40:57 AM
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I have a problem to understand these raw data

raw Binance historic data...

Does it mean the spreadsheet contains every individual trade ever made on every currency pair?

If so, I can see why this information can be pricey, but I still have a problem to see the usability in trading. Can you share something about how people use these data in practice?

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March 27, 2019, 07:59:47 AM
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Does it mean the spreadsheet contains every individual trade ever made on every currency pair?

If so, I can see why this information can be pricey, but I still have a problem to see the usability in trading. Can you share something about how people use these data in practice?


Yeap I am talking for this kind of information.

In practice, you can use that info to train an AI trader bot or test your strategy (bot or manual).

You can use the tick by tick data to extract all kind of useful info (point and figure, technical analysis, etc...)
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March 27, 2019, 04:26:51 PM
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Does it mean the spreadsheet contains every individual trade ever made on every currency pair?

If so, I can see why this information can be pricey, but I still have a problem to see the usability in trading. Can you share something about how people use these data in practice?


Yeap I am talking for this kind of information.

In practice, you can use that info to train an AI trader bot or test your strategy (bot or manual).

You can use the tick by tick data to extract all kind of useful info (point and figure, technical analysis, etc...)


Ok, now I understand why you guys needed such information.

And so you are asking if everyone here is interested to the bot that you are going to create?

Well there's a lot of bots already, but if you have something unique to offer then why not?

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March 27, 2019, 05:07:24 PM
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Honestly, I don't think this will be of interest to the regular and local traders of Binance, however this may be of interest to some analysts and researchers that checks whether trading volumes and trades are being faked or not (the topic is being revived now, so yeah). Also, if you mean 'trade-by-trade' data, this, to me suggests that there is something wrong with how Binance handle their trading history and data for you to be able to come up with an updated and raw data on your own. Anyhow, you won't get some luck into posting such offer here but perhaps try another forum, or use the Services section instead and post it there.
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March 28, 2019, 08:52:54 AM
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Also, if you mean 'trade-by-trade' data, this, to me suggests that there is something wrong with how Binance handle their trading history and data for you to be able to come up with an updated and raw data on your own.

Thank you for your answer and suggestion, but I am not sure what do you mean by this sentence?

No Binance is handling their trading history as expected, you need to know programming/networks/devops and spend some (a lot) money to build such service.... it is not an easy task

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March 28, 2019, 09:21:26 AM
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you should focus on whether anybody would even want this type of data. I don't think it is even needed because most important of all, it won't help you trade any better by having or analyzing such data types. the altcoin market  doesn't work like that.

you need to know programming/networks/devops and spend some (a lot) money to build such service.... it is not an easy task
really? I have not done something like this ever since I never needed it but I think it is easy to fetch the trading history of an exchange as long as it is public and then store it somewhere.

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Does it mean the spreadsheet contains every individual trade ever made on every currency pair?

If so, I can see why this information can be pricey, but I still have a problem to see the usability in trading. Can you share something about how people use these data in practice?

Why would it be pricy when you can get the data is public. I didn't need any such data when I'm trading. These people who wish to sell the data when in fact you don't need such a thing when your trading a coin.
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March 28, 2019, 01:21:54 PM
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OP, honestly if anyone were interested initially and then seeing that you're just a Newbie would make them lose interest in your project. Who even pays for a bot services that high in price. BTW, there's nothing special about what you intend to supply as it can be found online already.

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This is incomplete in my opinion and might be confusing for AI bots without full order book all the time. Big (fake or real) walls in order book very often push price in various directions that won't be visible for AI bot with only trade history.
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OP, honestly if anyone were interested initially and then seeing that you're just a Newbie would make them lose interest in your project. Who even pays for a bot services that high in price. BTW, there's nothing special about what you intend to supply as it can be found online already.

How exactly did you conclude that I am a Newbie? (on the forum yes)

BTW, there's nothing special about what you intend to supply as it can be found online already.

Please provide links, to check if you really understand what I am saying.

Ty

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March 28, 2019, 03:25:40 PM
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This is incomplete in my opinion and might be confusing for AI bots without full order book all the time. Big (fake or real) walls in order book very often push price in various directions that won't be visible for AI bot with only trade history.

Fair enough....

So do you think, that raw data in sync with an order book of say 100 positions, in both directions, is a good sample? 

Ty in advance
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March 28, 2019, 09:06:08 PM
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It depends. For litecoin in the worst case 100 positions on binance might be 0.6% which is definitely not enough while on IOST its 50%. +-20% of current price would be great.

You know what i mean? Sometimes whale put huge sell wall +5 to +10% higher and another whale seeing that being in accumulation phase run for it because he knows that its more than he would get constantly buying for few days pushing price even higher doing that. Seeing that in data would be helpful to understand that for AI bot.
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March 29, 2019, 08:33:45 AM
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I am trying to understand who is going to pay 1500+ $ for raw Binance historic data... https://coinograph.io/binance-historical-data/ | https://www.kaiko.com/pages/kaiko-pricing

I am trying to develop such a service but with a fee of 100~200 $.

What do you think?

Will anyone here, be interested in such service?

What price do you think is fair?
Raw data from Binance? is it not the same way you got it that others too can get it, I doubt if many people will make this as priority because I personally don’t see how their raw data can be of help to my trade, if you need to develop anything that will really be of help to many people, I will advise you develop what will help people make profit in their trading.

Moreover, the amount you are talking about is quite too expensive, do you know how much I will get if I just invest that in bitcoin and leave it for a very long term. $20 dollars would have been a fair price for many potential people that will patronize it.
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Raw data from Binance? is it not the same way you got it that others too can get it, I doubt if many people will make this as priority because I personally don’t see how their raw data can be of help to my trade, if you need to develop anything that will really be of help to many people, I will advise you develop what will help people make profit in their trading.

Moreover, the amount you are talking about is quite too expensive, do you know how much I will get if I just invest that in bitcoin and leave it for a very long term. $20 dollars would have been a fair price for many potential people that will patronize it.


You do not understand the value of this data. That's a lot of data that can feed AI bot. You can test your AI bot on those data. 1 clever algorithm and you have AI bot that has multiple times better performance than traditional bots and is "learning" and improving with every new trade that came to database.
This is not data than average trader will look in and perform his trades better. Its huge database for smart programists and their algorithm
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March 29, 2019, 07:31:14 PM
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OP, honestly if anyone were interested initially and then seeing that you're just a Newbie would make them lose interest in your project. Who even pays for a bot services that high in price. BTW, there's nothing special about what you intend to supply as it can be found online already.

How exactly did you conclude that I am a Newbie? (on the forum yes)
It can be really funny how people can just judge the expertise of a forum user by their forum tag, I do that a lot too and until one day, it dawn on me that I was already an expert in trading before getting to know about bitcointalk and opening an account with on it.

So for the fact that you are a newbie here doesn’t mean you are not an expert in your field but the service you intend rendering is quite on a high side for now and if you can proof to us that it will help the market out of the situation it is now, maybe I can try it out too and probably broadcast it to more crypto users too who might find it useful.
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