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March 28, 2019, 09:58:55 PM
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Do you think something illegal to do would be live on youtube for long? It is obviously not illegal, you can race rats as much as you want, the legality comes down to how well you look after the mice and if you give one different food (for better performance) or not and stuff like that, when its about legality its not about animal cruelty or not it is only about if casino tries to take advantage of the situation and makes the one they want to win somehow manage to win over others, which I think they wouldn't wanna do at least right now since its brand new.

Animal cruelty is never the question when its about horses but when it is about rats somehow people think there is cruelty involved, horses are LOVED by their owners and worth a lot, why would mouse be any different, I am sure these guys take care of their mice carefully, after all its not just a business for them but they are taking care of a living creature which eventually makes them connect with those animals like pets you have such as dogs and cats.

So all in all as long as they are not trying to make their favorite win in a shady way the legality is fine. Of course, that is the legal part of it, I have to say website doesn't really look professional and well designed, if you are spending that much money on this setup you might as well just find a better designer and developer for the website, right now the mouse that is racing and the "current bet" are different from each other unfortunately.

thats where provably fair system put into uncertainty here. is there a way to confirm that those mice are receiving equal opportunities and not giving an edge to one or more of them?
how is provably fair system implemented in this kind of racing? this is a unique experience but gamblers should be confident that they are not being cheated by their system.

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March 29, 2019, 04:20:49 AM
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thats where provably fair system put into uncertainty here. is there a way to confirm that those mice are receiving equal opportunities and not giving an edge to one or more of them?
how is provably fair system implemented in this kind of racing? this is a unique experience but gamblers should be confident that they are not being cheated by their system.

That's for casino games.

No sports event or prop bet is "provably fair" for obvious reasons.

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March 29, 2019, 06:14:14 AM
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how is provably fair system implemented in this kind of racing? this is a unique experience but gamblers should be confident that they are not being cheated by their system.

Probably can only be included in an online casino where you are against the house program and not into online racing. In a race like this, you are against other bettors and not against the house. There is no point incorporating probably fair system here.
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March 29, 2019, 09:04:48 AM
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thats where provably fair system put into uncertainty here. is there a way to confirm that those mice are receiving equal opportunities and not giving an edge to one or more of them?
how is provably fair system implemented in this kind of racing? this is a unique experience but gamblers should be confident that they are not being cheated by their system.

That's for casino games.

No sports event or prop bet is "provably fair" for obvious reasons.

I have a feeling the obvious reasons are not so obvious to people everywhere,,, I do not think everyone understands this concept of provably fair. In fact,,, even some casinos are misusing that label. I have seen casinos say they can sow you a certificate for RNG, and for them, that is their proof that they play fair. So what? You can tell me your edge is 1% but your RNG is fixed to 2%, I have no method to find out if this is true,,, the RNG machination works maybe, but I do not know you changed it for me.

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March 29, 2019, 11:38:23 AM
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Thanks for all the positive feedback guys!


The races are online!


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March 29, 2019, 12:17:53 PM
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Thanks for all the positive feedback guys!


The races are online!


Best regards!  Roll Eyes

Nice gambling site this is something new in my eyes and I can say it has a potential like top gambling site in the internet.
All you need todo is to maintenance the speed of the site if theres a bug then fix it as fast as  you can.
Do you plan to add more features to this site?
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March 29, 2019, 02:18:17 PM
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Thanks for all the positive feedback guys!


The races are online!


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Nice gambling site this is something new in my eyes and I can say it has a potential like top gambling site in the internet.
All you need todo is to maintenance the speed of the site if theres a bug then fix it as fast as  you can.
Do you plan to add more features to this site?

Hi jazzmuzika217, thanks for your comment. we plan on adding lots of great new features very soon.
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March 29, 2019, 05:29:16 PM
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I think you should lessen the minimum amount for the small players because not everyone could try it out at that amount.
There are gamblers who just plays with a small capital so I think you should also consider them just to attract more gamblers at your site.
I think it wouldn't affect anything who knows maybe there would be more gamblers when you lessen the minimum amount.

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March 29, 2019, 06:28:14 PM
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I think we can't make sure if it is provably fair in a casino system way but we can make sure if it is provably fair in a way that one mouse doesn't get streoid version of what mouses get for example. Just to give an example after every horse race the horses are forced to pee in order to check at the labs and see if they were given anything suspicious or not.

Now horses are owned by different people who all come together to race against each other and they try to win in order to make money. However all of these mouses are owned by the same people, so for them whoever wins there is really not a big difference to them, it looks like its just a small operation of a guy who owns many rats and that is it.

In order to make sure the game doesn't cheat us we need to get different mouse owners racing their own mouses against each other, that would be at least more reliable.
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March 29, 2019, 06:53:04 PM
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I think we can't make sure if it is provably fair in a casino system way but we can make sure if it is provably fair in a way that one mouse doesn't get streoid version of what mouses get for example. Just to give an example after every horse race the horses are forced to pee in order to check at the labs and see if they were given anything suspicious or not.

Now horses are owned by different people who all come together to race against each other and they try to win in order to make money. However all of these mouses are owned by the same people, so for them whoever wins there is really not a big difference to them, it looks like its just a small operation of a guy who owns many rats and that is it.

In order to make sure the game doesn't cheat us we need to get different mouse owners racing their own mouses against each other, that would be at least more reliable.
Now that you mention it maybe we couldn't really tell if they are cheating or not ,
After all the site owner could also bet on the mouse and they could just make it looks like that this is fair.
And make the other mouse lock up or their track doesn't have an end.

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March 29, 2019, 07:02:18 PM
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I think you should lessen the minimum amount for the small players because not everyone could try it out at that amount.
There are gamblers who just plays with a small capital so I think you should also consider them just to attract more gamblers at your site.
I think it wouldn't affect anything who knows maybe there would be more gamblers when you lessen the minimum amount.

The limits currently implemented are to ensure fairness while we are still only doing Pool Betting. We are working very hard at implementing fixed odds and combo betting soon. Once this is implemented there will be no minimum and the maximum bet will also be increased.
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I think we can't make sure if it is provably fair in a casino system way but we can make sure if it is provably fair in a way that one mouse doesn't get streoid version of what mouses get for example. Just to give an example after every horse race the horses are forced to pee in order to check at the labs and see if they were given anything suspicious or not.

Now horses are owned by different people who all come together to race against each other and they try to win in order to make money. However all of these mouses are owned by the same people, so for them whoever wins there is really not a big difference to them, it looks like its just a small operation of a guy who owns many rats and that is it.

In order to make sure the game doesn't cheat us we need to get different mouse owners racing their own mouses against each other, that would be at least more reliable.

Hi Coinplus, and thanks for your comment. The mice are all kept in the same conditions and fed the same food. Also, mice behaviour is quite erratic which would in any event make it very hard to rig any races even if someone wanted to. We are very open to any suggestions on how to ensure fairness.

We are also toying with the option of leasing/selling mice to owners, so all the mice aren't owned by us, but very similar to horse racing, where you could possibly trade the mouse again at a later stage and earn some profit on that.

As mentioned we are just getting started and we are looking to improve and consider all suggestions to provide players with the most fun, fair mice betting site.
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March 29, 2019, 07:17:41 PM
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I think we can't make sure if it is provably fair in a casino system way but we can make sure if it is provably fair in a way that one mouse doesn't get streoid version of what mouses get for example. Just to give an example after every horse race the horses are forced to pee in order to check at the labs and see if they were given anything suspicious or not.

Now horses are owned by different people who all come together to race against each other and they try to win in order to make money. However all of these mouses are owned by the same people, so for them whoever wins there is really not a big difference to them, it looks like its just a small operation of a guy who owns many rats and that is it.

In order to make sure the game doesn't cheat us we need to get different mouse owners racing their own mouses against each other, that would be at least more reliable.
Now that you mention it maybe we couldn't really tell if they are cheating or not ,
After all the site owner could also bet on the mouse and they could just make it looks like that this is fair.
And make the other mouse lock up or their track doesn't have an end.
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Hi xvids, and thanks for your comment. Please see our reply to Coinplus regarding your concerns.
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I think we can't make sure if it is provably fair in a casino system way but we can make sure if it is provably fair in a way that one mouse doesn't get streoid version of what mouses get for example. Just to give an example after every horse race the horses are forced to pee in order to check at the labs and see if they were given anything suspicious or not.

Now horses are owned by different people who all come together to race against each other and they try to win in order to make money. However all of these mouses are owned by the same people, so for them whoever wins there is really not a big difference to them, it looks like its just a small operation of a guy who owns many rats and that is it.

In order to make sure the game doesn't cheat us we need to get different mouse owners racing their own mouses against each other, that would be at least more reliable.
Now that you mention it maybe we couldn't really tell if they are cheating or not ,
After all the site owner could also bet on the mouse and they could just make it looks like that this is fair.
And make the other mouse lock up or their track doesn't have an end.
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Hi xvids, and thanks for your comment. Please see our reply to Coinplus regarding your concerns.
I just want to suggest that make the race track visible with all of the runners(mouse).
And a clear view of them running live,A shot from the top angle so that we could see them run clear in the race track.
So we could make sure that it is fair for all if you could remember the toy Tamiya race car I suggest use the same race track like that .

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I think we can't make sure if it is provably fair in a casino system way but we can make sure if it is provably fair in a way that one mouse doesn't get streoid version of what mouses get for example. Just to give an example after every horse race the horses are forced to pee in order to check at the labs and see if they were given anything suspicious or not.

Now horses are owned by different people who all come together to race against each other and they try to win in order to make money. However all of these mouses are owned by the same people, so for them whoever wins there is really not a big difference to them, it looks like its just a small operation of a guy who owns many rats and that is it.

In order to make sure the game doesn't cheat us we need to get different mouse owners racing their own mouses against each other, that would be at least more reliable.
Now that you mention it maybe we couldn't really tell if they are cheating or not ,
After all the site owner could also bet on the mouse and they could just make it looks like that this is fair.
And make the other mouse lock up or their track doesn't have an end.
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Hi xvids, and thanks for your comment. Please see our reply to Coinplus regarding your concerns.
I just want to suggest that make the race track visible with all of the runners(mouse).
And a clear view of them running live,A shot from the top angle so that we could see them run clear in the race track.
So we could make sure that it is fair for all if you could remember the toy Tamiya race car I suggest use the same race track like that .

We currently have cameras in each lane as well as a camera with a view of the entire track. Are you saying the visibility is not good enough? We are looking at getting better cameras soon. We know there are a lot of things that we can improve and we are taking in all the feedback in order to provide you with the best possible user experience.

Regards Smiley
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March 29, 2019, 09:56:05 PM
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I think we can't make sure if it is provably fair in a casino system way but we can make sure if it is provably fair in a way that one mouse doesn't get streoid version of what mouses get for example. Just to give an example after every horse race the horses are forced to pee in order to check at the labs and see if they were given anything suspicious or not.

Now horses are owned by different people who all come together to race against each other and they try to win in order to make money. However all of these mouses are owned by the same people, so for them whoever wins there is really not a big difference to them, it looks like its just a small operation of a guy who owns many rats and that is it.

In order to make sure the game doesn't cheat us we need to get different mouse owners racing their own mouses against each other, that would be at least more reliable.
Now that you mention it maybe we couldn't really tell if they are cheating or not ,
After all the site owner could also bet on the mouse and they could just make it looks like that this is fair.
And make the other mouse lock up or their track doesn't have an end.

Hi xvids, and thanks for your comment. Please see our reply to Coinplus regarding your concerns.
I just want to suggest that make the race track visible with all of the runners(mouse).
And a clear view of them running live,A shot from the top angle so that we could see them run clear in the race track.
So we could make sure that it is fair for all if you could remember the toy Tamiya race car I suggest use the same race track like that .

We currently have cameras in each lane as well as a camera with a view of the entire track. Are you saying the visibility is not good enough? We are looking at getting better cameras soon. We know there are a lot of things that we can improve and we are taking in all the feedback in order to provide you with the best possible user experience.

Regards Smiley
Camera image is somehow blur but still considerable yet it can really give out clear image of the mice but it would be better if its more cleared and more broader so
we can see the entire racetrack together with those mice- same as said above. About Tamiya similar racetrack, it would be also a good idea on having this track rather than on
straight line but this will surely cost some penny though but would really add up some thrill.

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March 29, 2019, 10:41:24 PM
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I think we can't make sure if it is provably fair in a casino system way but we can make sure if it is provably fair in a way that one mouse doesn't get streoid version of what mouses get for example. Just to give an example after every horse race the horses are forced to pee in order to check at the labs and see if they were given anything suspicious or not.

Now horses are owned by different people who all come together to race against each other and they try to win in order to make money. However all of these mouses are owned by the same people, so for them whoever wins there is really not a big difference to them, it looks like its just a small operation of a guy who owns many rats and that is it.

In order to make sure the game doesn't cheat us we need to get different mouse owners racing their own mouses against each other, that would be at least more reliable.

maybe i used the provably fair aspect in different perspectives here but this is what im trying to say. how can you guarantee that a specific mouse is not receiving any additional treatment ? is there a way to test them, if theres any sort of test for mice?

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March 30, 2019, 07:51:33 AM
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maybe i used the provably fair aspect in different perspectives here but this is what im trying to say. how can you guarantee that a specific mouse is not receiving any additional treatment ? is there a way to test them, if theres any sort of test for mice?

What kind of treatment are you looking for? You mean like a specific mouse is being injected or fed with a performance drug?
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Hi Coinplus, and thanks for your comment. The mice are all kept in the same conditions and fed the same food. Also, mice behaviour is quite erratic which would in any event make it very hard to rig any races even if someone wanted to. We are very open to any suggestions on how to ensure fairness.

We are also toying with the option of leasing/selling mice to owners, so all the mice aren't owned by us, but very similar to horse racing, where you could possibly trade the mouse again at a later stage and earn some profit on that.

As mentioned we are just getting started and we are looking to improve and consider all suggestions to provide players with the most fun, fair mice betting site.

Hi OP, this is something interesting to look at and even I think a lot of people would consider, and if you got all the mice to be owned by people, then it's something like "decentralized" as in none of the competitors are owned by you, you only organize the games.

I have a few questions, what is the lifespan of the mice, and do you also breed them or how do you pick them to be suited for races? I think we could really do something useful for the space as long as we ensure ethical treatment.

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March 30, 2019, 12:13:28 PM
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What kind of treatment are you looking for? You mean like a specific mouse is being injected or fed with a performance drug?

maybe i used the provably fair aspect in different perspectives here but this is what im trying to say. how can you guarantee that a specific mouse is not receiving any additional treatment ? is there a way to test them, if theres any sort of test for mice?
How the gambling site turn out to be a place to discuss about medical therapies for mice?
I still don't know what you are discussing about because I did not play games on the MiceRace site, just found the site today.
If it relates to the game on MiceRace site, it sounds intersting and I might create account there to find out what it is myself.

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