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maybe i used the provably fair aspect in different perspectives here but this is what im trying to say. how can you guarantee that a specific mouse is not receiving any additional treatment ? is there a way to test them, if theres any sort of test for mice?
What kind of treatment are you looking for? You mean like a specific mouse is being injected or fed with a performance drug? Possibilities that a those 4 mices are well trained and knows how to work with the gambling owners, who knows but it's still possible to happen, really needs to play and enjoy trying your luck with small bets if you are interested to play with this types of gamble.
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It is great to know all mouses are kept at the same conditions but unfortunately this is not something we can definitely test out. The difference between a digital gambling game and provably fair game is just that you let the trust to a machine instead of to the casino, with provably fair (just like the name suggests) you prove people its not rigged.
Now on horse games, it is totally out of owners hands and maybe some shady stuff goes down there too but in the end everyone is at a fair game against each other, here with the fact that you basically own the mouses (and even if you lease/sell because you control them) it can't be "technically" provably fair, we have to trust you. I have no idea what the solution would be but I know its a bit of a problem for people.
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It is great to know all mouses are kept at the same conditions but unfortunately this is not something we can definitely test out. The difference between a digital gambling game and provably fair game is just that you let the trust to a machine instead of to the casino, with provably fair (just like the name suggests) you prove people its not rigged.
Now on horse games, it is totally out of owners hands and maybe some shady stuff goes down there too but in the end everyone is at a fair game against each other, here with the fact that you basically own the mouses (and even if you lease/sell because you control them) it can't be "technically" provably fair, we have to trust you. I have no idea what the solution would be but I know its a bit of a problem for people.
I think for now, trust is the only factor in play here. The owner/s of this gambling site should earn trust from the community by not giving us any single reason of inconsistency during the game. I know, it is vague for now. But what I mean is, hopefully we will not see any cheating tactic within the racing game. Because one mistake can ruin their reputation and that would be the end of their life in crypto gambling business.
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March 31, 2019, 04:39:25 AM |
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Decentralization should be considered deeply. Hi OP, this is something interesting to look at and even I think a lot of people would consider, and if you got all the mice to be owned by people, then it's something like "decentralized" as in none of the competitors are owned by you, you only organize the games.
I like the idea to breed mice, and if some features like CryptoKitties with natural / crypto selections over time, over generations is a good way to develop the game. Lifespan, in that aspect, I think that mice in the game should have lifespan, but randomly for each mice, not a fixed lifespan for all. And, mice should be able match each other to generate new generations of mice. I have a few questions, what is the lifespan of the mice, and do you also breed them or how do you pick them to be suited for races? I think we could really do something useful for the space as long as we ensure ethical treatment.
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I have been breaking my brain thinking how do we really turn this into a decentralized or provably fair game and I couldn't find anything reasonable. I thought about having cameras on the living spaces as well, that way we could know whats what with the mouses and constantly check them, never off-air they will always be in front of a camera and that would make it a bit more fair but if someone wants to meddle with it there could always be reasons and excuses to get them off camera even for couple seconds which is enough.
I thought about doing this in a more public way instead of just online so people would be there for being a witness but honestly how do we get the feedback on that, so this is just a game where the trust is key and nothing else is available in the fair situation.
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I have been breaking my brain thinking how do we really turn this into a decentralized or provably fair game and I couldn't find anything reasonable. I thought about having cameras on the living spaces as well, that way we could know whats what with the mouses and constantly check them, never off-air they will always be in front of a camera and that would make it a bit more fair but if someone wants to meddle with it there could always be reasons and excuses to get them off camera even for couple seconds which is enough.
I thought about doing this in a more public way instead of just online so people would be there for being a witness but honestly how do we get the feedback on that, so this is just a game where the trust is key and nothing else is available in the fair situation.
Streaming them 24/7 I believe, is impractical at the moment. Trust is really the factor in play here. Even undergoing them for specific tests would not guarantee because the owner is holding those mice and their results as well. They really need to build trust from potential clients.
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Mice race indeed something new for me and maybe this could be another option instead of horse racing or something else but f.a.q seems interesting for me when i read for withdrawal explanations that it says on the page When you've decided that you've had enough fun, you can head over to the withdraw page to withdraw your funds and actually what means of this because i didn't see limit amount to withdraw which mean this could be no minimum amount for withdraw or not
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I have been breaking my brain thinking how do we really turn this into a decentralized or provably fair game and I couldn't find anything reasonable. I thought about having cameras on the living spaces as well, that way we could know whats what with the mouses and constantly check them, never off-air they will always be in front of a camera and that would make it a bit more fair but if someone wants to meddle with it there could always be reasons and excuses to get them off camera even for couple seconds which is enough.
I thought about doing this in a more public way instead of just online so people would be there for being a witness but honestly how do we get the feedback on that, so this is just a game where the trust is key and nothing else is available in the fair situation.
Streaming them 24/7 I believe, is impractical at the moment. Trust is really the factor in play here. Even undergoing them for specific tests would not guarantee because the owner is holding those mice and their results as well. They really need to build trust from potential clients. Even if you stream them 24/7 who is going to watch them all the time? I think even if they did that,,, no one would believe it and they can still find many holes to pick if they wanted to cheat. Basically it is as you said,,, it is all about trust. Why do we bet on horse racing and dog racing when we also have the same issues of being fair? Because we trust. That is all it is and that is all we can do!
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Thanks for the feedback guys! Once we have received a funding, we will inform you further. We are up and running! come take a look! ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Best regards!
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Thanks for the feedback guys! Once we have received a funding, we will inform you further. We are up and running! come take a look! ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Best regards! Nice this a new and a unique way to bet using crypto curreny. I recently visited the site and i saw there are no bettors that are active at that time.
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Thanks for the feedback guys! Once we have received a funding, we will inform you further. We are up and running! come take a look! ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Best regards! We are releasing "fixed-odds" betting within the next few weeks, which will allow users to play without the need of another player. Best Regards ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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We are releasing "fixed-odds" betting within the next few weeks, which will allow users to play without the need of another player.
With this, I think it will be more complicated since bettors will think twice on betting since the mice will have fixed odd. Trust would play a big role in this new mechanic that you will introduce.
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We are releasing "fixed-odds" betting within the next few weeks, which will allow users to play without the need of another player.
With this, I think it will be more complicated since bettors will think twice on betting since the mice will have fixed odd. Trust would play a big role in this new mechanic that you will introduce. Horses have fixed odds, Dogs have fixed odds, yet there is a reasonable amount of people betting on them ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Races are now online for the next 10 hours! Best Regard ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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We are releasing "fixed-odds" betting within the next few weeks, which will allow users to play without the need of another player.
With this, I think it will be more complicated since bettors will think twice on betting since the mice will have fixed odd. Trust would play a big role in this new mechanic that you will introduce. Horses have fixed odds, Dogs have fixed odds, yet there is a reasonable amount of people betting on them ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Races are now online for the next 10 hours! Best Regard ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) But the difference is that they have their own owners, unlike this one you are the sole owner of those mice that are racing.
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We are releasing "fixed-odds" betting within the next few weeks, which will allow users to play without the need of another player.
With this, I think it will be more complicated since bettors will think twice on betting since the mice will have fixed odd. Trust would play a big role in this new mechanic that you will introduce. Horses have fixed odds, Dogs have fixed odds, yet there is a reasonable amount of people betting on them ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Races are now online for the next 10 hours! Best Regard ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) But the difference is that they have their own owners, unlike this one you are the sole owner of those mice that are racing. We are working on updates like: viewing the mice's cages, live stream of when they being loaded in the gates from the cages, so that the players can be 100% sure of, the mice they bet on, is actually the mice that they have bet on. Also, Horse races, and Dog Races requires a big track, and the operation costs are expensive. This is the first animal race, that can be ran 24/7. Because it's easy to operate and maintain, and it's cheap to operate, compared to the other 2 and yet it's still live animal racing. Best Regards ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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I really love this new micerace good job team you did a best keep the site smooth and good looking👌👌 By the way do you have plan to take a promotion like bounty campaign for your site?
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We are releasing "fixed-odds" betting within the next few weeks, which will allow users to play without the need of another player.
With this, I think it will be more complicated since bettors will think twice on betting since the mice will have fixed odd. Trust would play a big role in this new mechanic that you will introduce. Horses have fixed odds, Dogs have fixed odds, yet there is a reasonable amount of people betting on them ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Races are now online for the next 10 hours! Best Regard ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Good answer, for those who's willing to take the risk or finding other ways to be entertained playing this game, with this delightful music background, its a good alternatives spending your spare time and to try your luck choosing the best mice to place your bets, currently waiting for the game to start as I wanted to watch how things works before trying my own money to play.
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The difference between dog and horse races is that it is totally decentralized most of the time, the people who race the horses and the people who own the horses are totally different so that is why the people who arrange the horse races do not have any favorites, they do not have to care about who wins at all because in the end they won't win it, the horse owners win.
This place owns the rats themselves which means they do have favorites, whoever usually wins people will bet on that rat but if they someone arrange something that will make the less favorite rat win than they can and they will win money from it. If the rats racing were owned by different people than the people who make the race than the trust would have been much bigger in my opinion.
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April 02, 2019, 04:24:28 PM |
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Good clarification for MiceRace's racers and gamblers. Also, Horse races, and Dog Races requires a big track, and the operation costs are expensive.
This is the first animal race, that can be ran 24/7.
24/7, I deeply think that during golden hours, the site should have promotions to catch attention of gamblers. During those period each day, gamblers tend to be more actively on gambling sites, and playing more than usual. Golden hours are different from nations to nations, but the team should collect data to see which nations have dominant total percentage of active gamblers on the site. Golden hours should focus on those target nations, and give them more advantages.
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Will there be different odds for different mouses depending on the races won or depending on what people are betting on? Last I remember the sportsbooks and horse racing usually starts with certain odds but in some places when a horse gets too much betting they change the bet odds after a while and the ones who bet on earlier odds keep their odds but after the change the new people who want to bet will have to use the new odds.
So, if its going to be a dynamic depending on the betting it should be much better, because if it is dynamic than we all know who bets on which mouse and which one is the favorite right on the time whereas the other type of "this is the odd forever" type is open to meddling. I favor the dynamic always changing odds for better trust system.
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