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March 27, 2019, 11:46:26 PM
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With both gambling and porn, there is an argument that both are harmful and unethical in various ways. I don't subscribe to the logic in making these arguments, however I do not find these arguments to be outright frivolous.

In addition to the suggestions of many above to make sure the signatures are not explicit, and to consider not linking directly to explicit material, I would suggest doing due diligence on the site itself. I would want to have confidence the site is not going to be spreading malware when visitors visit the site, nor when visitors try to download content, and does not have an excess amount of advertisements.

I do find it somewhat strange that a porn site would want to advertise here. I would not find bitcointalk the most effective venue to advertise on for this kind of business.

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I have no problem with pornsites and those sites' advertisements in the forum.
I have only several worry about them:
- Pornsites are one of the most dangerous in aspect of potential threats for visitors, virures, malwares, trojans, and other threats to visitors.
So, if you make sure that sites you aggreed to advertise for them are good pornsites, it is totally welcome. By saying 'good', I meant they are safe, without threats.
- And, if sites have options to pay with crypto, it is amazing for porn-lovers. They can easily to pay for their favorite videos with crypto.
It is one of good way to spread crypto around and help it invading more into real life.

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March 28, 2019, 02:24:06 AM
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As far as I can remember, there were two Porn-related campaigns that had ran for a few months last year or last 2017.
One was handled by Yahoo (AFAIK).

Based form those, there shouldn't be any issue to the forum, DTs and the signature campaigners as long as the project is legal.
By the way, both were ICO-based startups; that said, the idea of advertising here in bitcointalk made sense.

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March 28, 2019, 02:39:54 AM
Merited by LoyceV (1), Hhampuz (1)
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My vote is go for it. You are simply providing a service to find and monitor participants to wear their signature. Some people may be offended or think it's out of place, they can disable signature ads and move on. It's a product/service that is legal and free to people in most parts of the world if I'm not mistaken so it's not really out of place.

As for past examples the best I can think of was this campaign Eroiy.io. It wasn't a site per say, but a coin dedicated to anonymous payments for Porn sites.

If anything would come up that they've been doing some shenanigans later on, could I get in trouble for marketing it here? Should I consider it in any way immoral to promote pornographic content here?

To answer these questions, I can only speak for myself and how I'd deal with it here on the forum. If they start doing Shady shit ( underage or non consensual videos, or theft) I would judge you only by how you handle things after you find out or it's brought to your attention. I have no doubt you would act appropriately in those cases so I don't have any worries there. The immoral question comes down to your own personal values, personally if they're here they have access to the internet and have been shown the way already.

I also can't see the forum having an issue, we've allowed at the very least cam girl promotions to be an ongoing thing. They likely still would be if not for a scammer being outed.

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March 28, 2019, 04:19:02 AM
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Next week: BTCT is full of scat porn links..

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March 28, 2019, 04:28:05 AM
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Next week: BTCT is full of scat porn links..
Such campaigns should have rewards in two separating parts:
One part will be paid in BTC, ETH, etc.
The rest part will be paid in token of those porn sites or specific free times to download HD porn videos from those sites for qualifying participants of those campaigns. Those free download times will be allocated after weekly check- and pay-day of those campaigns.
Then, bitcointalkers will have one more thing to entertain, and totally free.

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March 28, 2019, 04:46:20 AM
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Still there is no any rules about signature campaign or bounty campaign. I am not sure if you are going to manage btc campaign. Previously we have seen many porno ICO has been promoted here on this forum. I have not noticed any action against them or they had not tagged by any DT(if they were legit). So I think you can proceed with disclaimer since it a adult site. It would be more better if you add a warning/disclaimer on signature about adult or 18+. So people's will aware before click the link that they are going to visit porno/18+ website  from signature.

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March 28, 2019, 04:56:07 AM
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It would be more better if you add a warning/disclaimer on signature about adult or 18+. So people's will aware before click the link that they are going to visit porno/18+ website  from signature.
Warnings or disclaimers are necessary as we all see on cigarette boxes or violent videos on Youtube, etc. Therefore, it is required for sure.
However, the fact is such warnings/ disclaimers tend to increase the attention of readers, visitors.
One of basic human charateristics is curiosity, and they tend to find out which prohibited/ warned.  Cheesy

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March 28, 2019, 06:04:59 AM
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As far as I can remember we have one before, [CLOSED] THE LEGENDS ROOM Signature Campaign. So I'm sure it is allowed in the community. So I'd say go for it and as long as you don't violate any terms here. Goodluck.

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March 28, 2019, 07:03:34 AM
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I think that before watching porn sites, people should be informed that the porn is addictive and causes erectile dysfunction.
That's it, I'm broken for life Sad

It is one of good way to spread crypto around and help it invading more into real life.
I was going to say the same thing: it means the real world (porn) is mixing more with Bitcoin, instead of just the usual mixers and casinos. That's a good thing for Bitcoin adoption.

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March 28, 2019, 07:18:22 AM
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Think it's pretty clear by now that you've got your confirmation survey: in general, we believe people don't care too much about what they're promoting if the rates are good. When it does come to discerning members, though, you've got some of the most liberal attitudes, and the adult industry isn't going to raise eyebrows.

I'd say that privacy concerns might apply, for those concerned about future shenanigans, as you say, any association with pron, past or present, would jeopardise their other professional relationships. I couldn't participate because of that, for example. This is something you might want to think about. Would future potential clients avoid looking you up if they knew you'd run such a campaign? I would, in addition to "the community" also ask the opinion of existing clientele. Not that it's their business, of course. But it might give you insight.

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Principal Issues Based on the background of the problem above, then I can say it's your right to implement a porn campaign.

How do people view ethics against pornographic campaigns?

For this forum, there are various countries and religions here, such as, Christianity, Buddhism, Catholicism, Hinduism, Islam, each of them has different opinions and views on pornography, advertising, media, Kapamye porn, this one internet container of course there are pros and cons.
for me this is not a problem, implemented a porn campaign, while it does not deviate from human nature.

The point: to make money, and even then as a picture that is seen is not a crime that is done real / direct. if this is contrary to their respective religions, do not see or participate in pornographic campaigns, and if you feel this is entertainment or life, please participate in the porn campaign.

Likened to like onlein gambling. Many religions forbid gambling, but instead act, so a pornographic campaign depends on the thinking of each person, positive or negative ways of thinking.

I see (@Hhampuz) have done a lot of campaigns to produce BTC for bitcointak members here,
do something that you think is good, useful for everyone.

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March 28, 2019, 09:37:41 AM
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Remove the signatures completely so that you wont be able to receive money from scam ICOs.
Most of the bounties are useless right now because of the current market conditions,so its better to remove these spams.
Yes,spams like your post. Tongue

For op it is nothing wrong on promoting such site until it is legit and there are many signature campaigns were run on bitcointalk based on porn and adult related ICOs.But you think it is not right thing to promote then you can simply avoid those kind of project it depends on your wish since nothing wrong on promoting a legit site here.

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March 28, 2019, 09:44:23 AM
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Should I consider it in any way immoral to promote pornographic content here?

Imho as long as the already discussed parts (NSFW marking near the links, no porn in avatars or signatures..) it should be fine.

If anything would come up that they've been doing some shennanigans later on, could I get in trouble for marketig it here?

Well.. this is the same for all signature campaigns.
A good campaign manager need to do a bit of background check to make sure he doesn't endorse scams. And always be prepared to stop the campaign (and reimburse participants) if anything shady comes to surface.
If you don't do this then you can have troubles indeed. You know as good as me that the ones enrolling for a signature campaign don't do the background checks (some may simply rely on you!) and if anything is bad, they'll blame you.
As I said, this is no different from non-porn campaigns, after all. So no extra worries.



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Looking around online and offline you cant dodge erotica nor casinos, cigarettes and booze as advertisement or sponsor.
Bring it on hhampuz, girls4bitcoins
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March 28, 2019, 10:41:18 AM
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The most important question payments in bitcoin or bonus consummations  Grin ? Just kidding.

If you add a +18 should be ok, we got few of them on the past like even if they are now dead or scam.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2685864.0 Dead/scam?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2375309.0 scam

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March 28, 2019, 12:13:20 PM
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Fine as long as it's not 'oh we take lots of cryptos' - too scammy to be using altcoins imnvho.
and - do hurry up
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March 28, 2019, 12:28:50 PM
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Should be no problem as long it would be handled right as many other Signature Campaigns have done that !

There are for sure a few Users maybe that dont would be like this but i have no problem to see some kind of Signature from Porn Sites,
because in today's age you see everywhere some Porn like on TV and other places.
Porn is something normal today in my opinion and guess the most will have no problems with it !
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March 28, 2019, 12:53:57 PM
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As long as these site have something to do with cryptocurrencys, I think this shouldn't be a problem to do a signature campaign for them. Only if the site does not accept crypto as payment, i wouldn't like a signature campaign here in the forum so much.
I can still remember Redcoin (not Reddcoin). They also advertise their own adult site here in the forum and it was no problem as they accepted crypto as a payment.  Smiley
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March 28, 2019, 02:49:35 PM
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As most of you probably know by now, I like to listen to the community before I do anything definitive.

I've been approached about a pornsite who may want me to run a Signature Campaign here at Bitcointalk. Now there's nothing illegal with legit porn sites and as far as I know there's nothing against promoting such sites here either but I'd still like to hear what you guys think about it, would people apply? (With good payrates people don't seem to care what they advertise but still). If anything would come up that they've been doing some shennanigans later on, could I get in trouble for marketig it here? Should I consider it in any way immoral to promote pornographic content here?

Feel free to discuss, I'd prefer it to be on topic and without multiple posts about "Your campaign, your decision" etc. One post is enough and different opinions are always welcome.

I have the best example that will make it very easy for you to decide whether to take the campaign or not.
Sunny Leone who has acted in many pornographic films is well respected by many because it was her own decision to act in porn movies.
I respect her too since I believe that there is no work that leads to discrimination. Every job should be respected unless it does not harm anybody in anyway.

So, if the campaign that you are receiving does not harm anybody in anyway then you should probably take it if you are willing to.
There is no harm in accepting a porn campaign.



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