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March 30, 2019, 04:34:27 AM
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Stack, read this again.

No payout.
You cheated.
We've proven it.

Stop lying.



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You and I both know that I won on your site fair and square, and you're desperately coming up with any excuse possible to not pay me my winnings. In any case, the only way I see this ending good for you is if you do the right thing and pay me back. I've seen the future... in all other timelines, you lose. Let's hope you make the right choice! Don't drop the soap.

Naw, I didn't cheat. It's alright though, you can keep living in your fantasy world. Goodbye.

Edit: I have received a porn blackmail/extortion threat saying that a video of me will be released if I don't pay 0.5 BTC. The extent these people go to is sickening.

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March 30, 2019, 04:48:15 AM
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Post screenshots of it, bc it wasn't us.  .5 btc to us isn't much bud. 


Stack, read this again.

No payout.
You cheated.
We've proven it.

Stop lying.



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You and I both know that I won on your site fair and square, and you're desperately coming up with any excuse possible to not pay me my winnings. In any case, the only way I see this ending good for you is if you do the right thing and pay me back. I've seen the future... in all other timelines, you lose. Let's hope you make the right choice! Don't drop the soap.

Naw, I didn't cheat. It's alright though, you can keep living in your fantasy world. Goodbye.

Edit: I have received a porn blackmail/extortion threat saying that a video of me will be released if I don't pay 0.5 BTC. The extent these people go to is sickening.
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March 30, 2019, 04:50:58 AM
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Post screenshots of it, bc it wasn't us.  .5 btc to us isn't much bud. 


Stack, read this again.

No payout.
You cheated.
We've proven it.

Stop lying.



Get a life.  



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You and I both know that I won on your site fair and square, and you're desperately coming up with any excuse possible to not pay me my winnings. In any case, the only way I see this ending good for you is if you do the right thing and pay me back. I've seen the future... in all other timelines, you lose. Let's hope you make the right choice! Don't drop the soap.

Naw, I didn't cheat. It's alright though, you can keep living in your fantasy world. Goodbye.

Edit: I have received a porn blackmail/extortion threat saying that a video of me will be released if I don't pay 0.5 BTC. The extent these people go to is sickening.

.5 BTC to you is half of a very large sum, because you're not willing to pay me back and restore your bustabit licenses + rep. Very sad. Now fuck off, loser.

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March 30, 2019, 04:54:15 AM
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If Ryan and Daniel do not take off the scam accusation after seeing all the shit pointing to you cheating then they are as fucked up as you.

Hey stack, can you explain the details of your involvement in the GambleCrash scam?

Not sure where the 0.5 btc deal comes from, we never stated we had a video of you.  We simply posted info you stated to us about having nude pictures of a 16 year old girl.
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March 30, 2019, 04:58:45 AM
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If Ryan and Daniel do not take off the scam accusation after seeing all the shit pointing to you cheating then they are as fucked up as you.

Hey stack, can you explain the details of your involvement in the GambleCrash scam?

Not sure where the 0.5 btc deal comes from, we never stated we had a video of you.  We simply posted info you stated to us about having nude pictures of a 16 year old girl.

Woah, calling the operators of the world's most trusted bitcoin gambling site "fucked up" is a major accusation. No, they won't take down that scam accusation until you pay me back. Three days, tick tock.

Also, gamblecrash was an old project of mine. Nobody was scammed. You're welcome to discuss the report with zev#9302 on Discord, the troll who posted my information on doxbin. He had no involvement with gamblecrash.

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March 30, 2019, 05:01:12 AM
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If Ryan and Daniel do not take off the scam accusation after seeing all the shit pointing to you cheating then they are as fucked up as you.

Hey stack, can you explain the details of your involvement in the GambleCrash scam?

Not sure where the 0.5 btc deal comes from, we never stated we had a video of you.  We simply posted info you stated to us about having nude pictures of a 16 year old girl.

Woah, calling the operators of the world's most trusted bitcoin gambling site "fucked up" is a major accusation. No, they won't take down that scam accusation until you pay me back. Three days, tick tock.

Also, gamblecrash was an old project of mine. Nobody was scammed. You're welcome to discuss the report with zev#9302 on Discord, the troll who posted my information on doxbin. He had no involvement with gamblecrash.

I didn’t say they were fucked up, I said if they do not remove the scam accusation after seeing how you cheated then they are fucked up.

Maybe I will contact zev for additional info on you  Wink
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March 30, 2019, 05:09:57 AM
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If Ryan and Daniel do not take off the scam accusation after seeing all the shit pointing to you cheating then they are as fucked up as you.

Hey stack, can you explain the details of your involvement in the GambleCrash scam?

Not sure where the 0.5 btc deal comes from, we never stated we had a video of you.  We simply posted info you stated to us about having nude pictures of a 16 year old girl.

Woah, calling the operators of the world's most trusted bitcoin gambling site "fucked up" is a major accusation. No, they won't take down that scam accusation until you pay me back. Three days, tick tock.

Also, gamblecrash was an old project of mine. Nobody was scammed. You're welcome to discuss the report with zev#9302 on Discord, the troll who posted my information on doxbin. He had no involvement with gamblecrash.

I didn’t say they were fucked up, I said if they do not remove the scam accusation after seeing how you cheated then they are fucked up.

Maybe I will contact zev for additional info on you  Wink

All the best. Tick tock, Keith.

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March 30, 2019, 05:11:21 AM
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Simple question Stack, were the hashes given to you on March 6?  Are those hashes in a conversation between you and Nightwanderer?
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March 30, 2019, 05:13:44 AM
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Simple question Stack, were the hashes given to you on March 6?  Are those hashes in a conversation between you and Nightwanderer?


Yeah, apparently I was sent the hashes for two games, which I found out today. I didn't make use of them; I didn't even know what they were, and as you can see in the video, I simply ignored them. I know, and you know, that I played fairly and without cheating. If you consider NightWanderer's video enough to not pay me, I can understand your decision. I see why you think I cheated, and I see why this is your new excuse. It's a good one. I, on the other hand, don't believe my funds should be withdrawn until you can actually prove that I made use of the two hashes (which I didn't). Ball's in your court now.

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March 30, 2019, 05:18:42 AM
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Simple question Stack, were the hashes given to you on March 6?  Are those hashes in a conversation between you and Nightwanderer?


Yeah, apparently I was sent the hashes for two games, which I found out today. I didn't make use of them; I didn't even know what they were, and as you can see in the video, I simply ignored them. I know, and you know, that I played fairly and without cheating. If you consider NightWanderer's video enough to not pay me, I can understand your decision. I see why you think I cheated, and I see why this is your new excuse. It's a good one. I, on the other hand, don't believe my funds should be withdrawn until you can actually prove that I made use of the two hashes (which I didn't). Ball's in your court now.

Thank you for the honesty.  Let’s discuss it on discord.
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March 30, 2019, 05:42:52 AM
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If you have the hash to any one game, you can calculate the spins all the way back to the first one. 
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March 30, 2019, 06:09:32 AM
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Simple question Stack, were the hashes given to you on March 6?  Are those hashes in a conversation between you and Nightwanderer?


Yeah, apparently I was sent the hashes for two games, which I found out today. I didn't make use of them; I didn't even know what they were, and as you can see in the video, I simply ignored them. I know, and you know, that I played fairly and without cheating. If you consider NightWanderer's video enough to not pay me, I can understand your decision. I see why you think I cheated, and I see why this is your new excuse. It's a good one. I, on the other hand, don't believe my funds should be withdrawn until you can actually prove that I made use of the two hashes (which I didn't). Ball's in your court now.
When did you receive these hashes? Before or after your wins on CrashDoge?

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March 30, 2019, 06:17:54 AM
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Simple question Stack, were the hashes given to you on March 6?  Are those hashes in a conversation between you and Nightwanderer?


Yeah, apparently I was sent the hashes for two games, which I found out today. I didn't make use of them; I didn't even know what they were, and as you can see in the video, I simply ignored them. I know, and you know, that I played fairly and without cheating. If you consider NightWanderer's video enough to not pay me, I can understand your decision. I see why you think I cheated, and I see why this is your new excuse. It's a good one. I, on the other hand, don't believe my funds should be withdrawn until you can actually prove that I made use of the two hashes (which I didn't). Ball's in your court now.
When did you receive these hashes? Before or after your wins on CrashDoge?

Before, but as you can see, I ignored them. I didn't even know what they were or how to use them. So far, what crashingcrypto has provided is not even close to proof of me cheating. Him and I both know I won fairly.

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Simple question Stack, were the hashes given to you on March 6?  Are those hashes in a conversation between you and Nightwanderer?


Yeah, apparently I was sent the hashes for two games, which I found out today. I didn't make use of them; I didn't even know what they were, and as you can see in the video, I simply ignored them. I know, and you know, that I played fairly and without cheating. If you consider NightWanderer's video enough to not pay me, I can understand your decision. I see why you think I cheated, and I see why this is your new excuse. It's a good one. I, on the other hand, don't believe my funds should be withdrawn until you can actually prove that I made use of the two hashes (which I didn't). Ball's in your court now.
When did you receive these hashes? Before or after your wins on CrashDoge?

Before, but as you can see, I ignored them. I didn't even know what they were or how to use them. So far, what crashingcrypto has provided is not even close to proof of me cheating. Him and I both know I won fairly.
If you had the hash before you played then you could calculate the outcome of every round. You also won a ridiculous amount that is very close to certain to not happen fairly. BTW, you were also going into playing trying to 100x your deposit which is also very unlikely to happen.

You need to give back what you withdrew. You are in the wrong.

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March 30, 2019, 06:33:06 AM
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Simple question Stack, were the hashes given to you on March 6?  Are those hashes in a conversation between you and Nightwanderer?


Yeah, apparently I was sent the hashes for two games, which I found out today. I didn't make use of them; I didn't even know what they were, and as you can see in the video, I simply ignored them. I know, and you know, that I played fairly and without cheating. If you consider NightWanderer's video enough to not pay me, I can understand your decision. I see why you think I cheated, and I see why this is your new excuse. It's a good one. I, on the other hand, don't believe my funds should be withdrawn until you can actually prove that I made use of the two hashes (which I didn't). Ball's in your court now.
When did you receive these hashes? Before or after your wins on CrashDoge?

Before, but as you can see, I ignored them. I didn't even know what they were or how to use them. So far, what crashingcrypto has provided is not even close to proof of me cheating. Him and I both know I won fairly.
If you had the hash before you played then you could calculate the outcome of every round. You also won a ridiculous amount that is very close to certain to not happen fairly. BTW, you were also going into playing trying to 100x your deposit which is also very unlikely to happen.

You need to give back what you withdrew. You are in the wrong.

You can speculate, but I know I have not cheated, and there is no evidence of such. You can browse through my channel: I have a history of setting high targets and hitting big. I've bankrupted two gambling sites before, lol. Nothing new for me.

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Regardless of if CrashDoge brought up the topic of alleged cheating, it appears there was cheating going on in their casino, and you were aware of it.

As I said earlier, I became aware of the "cheating" only a few days ago. While I was playing, I had no knowledge that this was going on, nor did the site owners.
When did you meet the dev that was giving out the server seed? How did you meet him? Do you know who else the dev was giving the server seed out to? What was his criteria in deciding who to give the server seed to?
Not supporting anyside. Quickseller, I like the questions you're asking and i respect you for that but i hope the forum polices are watching as said by Suchmoon because there's more to the whole story and I understand the casino owner side if the choose not to pay stack gambler the remaining doges since one of their operator expose something which should be secretive. However, the case seems to be something which will be best solve only if all people involved are question just like Quickseller is doing.

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My opinions about the matter in question are my own and have no associations with the owners of CrashingCrypto Or it users. Other than I am a Mod on Crashdoge.com Chat server.

Stack, You are correct I am a mod on the Crashdoge. I have never said or suggested anything other wise. The fact I am posting on this thread has nothing to do with my trust value here.
 

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(a mod on your site and your mouthpiece on bitcointalk, because he has green trust)
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If I was a mouthpiece, I would have post comments way before this or added trust to their account, in which you can see I have done nether.

The reasoning behind why I choose not to add my two cents in because for one there was no proof before of scamming yet and you winning and crying all of the net about scamms had nothing to do with me in any way shape or form. As you said I am a MOD. I mod a server I insure the users do not get out of hand and mute any one that does. As I do with all the games I mod and have modded before, I treat every one with the upmost respect and try to keep my opinions to my self. Since they should have no Merritt or weight on how I mod a server.  

Now as a Mod I must look for proof before performing any actions for a site, such as muting and or banning. Which is how I try to look at everything I do. Why speculate and cause havoc and accuse before hand it will only make some one look foolish in the end.

But lets get back these allegations towards the site from you and from the site towards you and as to why I am adding my two cents now.

Again these are my own opinions and have no associations with the owners of CrashingCrypto or it users.

I am going to break it down to the simplest of events on how everything went down on March 6th 2019 till now that that had to due with scamming of users and or stealing from a site to the best of my knowledge.

march 6th Stackgods wins a insane amount of Doge coins on Crashingdoge 6 million coins if I remember right. Of what 5k was from his deposit and rest from winnings. Tries to withdraw. Based off the past months players  and wagering I am guessing the hotwallet on had 250k doge coins in it. From my understanding.  Stack withdraw the 250k and asks site for the rest.

Sites response they are working on it and hotwallet will be refilled shortly.

Site is suspects cheating or foul play but doesn't tell any one. ( was this the right thing to do probably not but I am not the owner or admin so has nothing to do with me)

Site Asks Stack for KYC due to prior conversations Stackgod had with Admin Herpes, suspecting he is underage.

KYC, Should they have - of course I would with that amount of money being won in such a short period of time and with suspects of underage gambling or cheating. Can they - I would think of course it is there site you chose to play there. Do they have a right too and do you have to provide it to receive you winnings - That I don't know since I am only a mod and know nothing about legal laws of bitcoin gambling.

There was no TOS on the site that I saw, Does this make it right that they shouldn't need to ask you for KYC, Again That I don't know since I am only a mod and know nothing about legal laws of bitcoin gambling.      

KYC is denied by Stackgod so site says it wont pay out till KYC is complete.

Site admins mention to me rumors stackgod may have cheated but have no proof yet.

I am fast forwarding past all of the videos and nonsense in the middle because it has nothing to do with me or my modding of the site.

Month later Stackgod is still not paid or the users that still have balances on the server including myself.

Developer tells me he helped you win when asked him about the rumor inwhich Instantly forward to another mod and to site admins. I am asked to get more information if I can and they will speak with developer

Developer comes forward to the site owners with numerous  screen shots and video of showing Stackgod was given the game hash's the same day prior / before to him winning a massive amount on site.

So I think that sums up what has transpired so far.

Now my opinion as to why I think your in the wrong and why the site shouldn't pay you.

The fact there is real proof of you having the game hash's before you placed the winning bets should make the wins null and void in my own opinion  regardless if you used the information or not. You were given an inside edge.  

I think of it this way.

It is kinda like card counting in a Casino. They can never really prove you card counted but they can tell you cheated by the bets you placed and won, of course  they aren't going to let you keep the money you cheated the system and they will kick you out and bar you from playing because they know you have a inside edge.

This whole situation has gotten way out of hand in my opinion. I truly openly honestly feel you have no grounds to call scam against the site when you were given inside information to win, regardless if you used the information or not. And I will back that opinion up with this thought.

The fact you never came forward with the information to the admins or the owner that the sites developer was giving away the game hash's helping to rip the site off. Makes you guilty as a player in my eyes. it shows that you are untrustworthy to the bitcoin community and it's gambling sites. It shows you were willing to receiving stolen information in hopes to use it for profit with no regard to the site or it's owners.

In the conversation you had with the developer there was no signs of remorse or second thought about what you should do with the information. You even asked the developer for a second harsh that was closer to where you were betting. Which makes me in my opinion think you were going to use or did use them to rip the site off. The information was also coming from a person that owed you money. Which leads me to believe he was openly going to to give you more in hope to pay off his debt I would think. Which would allow you to ether use the information to sell or profit and rip the site off even more.

And with regards to a comment you made about me helping the site.
  
Yes I openly admit I sent the site owners and admins any information I received about the site being ripped off.

If that makes me a bad person for helping a site I mod on prove they got ripped. Which I would do for every site I work with so be it. I would do it again.
But that also goes on the other side as well. If it was never proven the user had inside information that could affect the outcome of the game. I would also not side with a site refusing to pay out a legit win as well. Which in this case the wins were not legit.


 






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The fact there is real proof of you having the game hash's before you placed the winning bets should make the wins null and void in my own opinion  regardless if you used the information or not. You were given an inside edge.  

Yep, that pretty much sums it up. Plus StackGambler's answer to Quicksy's question earlier. I don't know if StackGambler actively solicited those hashes, but even if he received them "accidentally" or whatever the excuse was - the right thing to do would be to inform the site's admin and not continue playing.

A gambling site where the "dev" hands out seeds is not to be trusted either.

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The guy who stole the hashes is not the sites dev.  He doesn't work for the sites.  He simply was put on teamviewer to fix some things with the server because he knows the game code very well and he screenshotted the master seed.  They are simply attempting to strong arm a payment out if us.  If it was a legit win, they would have been paid.  It's fraud.  Nothing more.



The fact there is real proof of you having the game hash's before you placed the winning bets should make the wins null and void in my own opinion  regardless if you used the information or not. You were given an inside edge.  

Yep, that pretty much sums it up. Plus StackGambler's answer to Quicksy's question earlier. I don't know if StackGambler actively solicited those hashes, but even if he received them "accidentally" or whatever the excuse was - the right thing to do would be to inform the site's admin and not continue playing.

A gambling site where the "dev" hands out seeds is not to be trusted either.
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Simple question Stack, were the hashes given to you on March 6?  Are those hashes in a conversation between you and Nightwanderer?


Yeah, apparently I was sent the hashes for two games, which I found out today. I didn't make use of them; I didn't even know what they were, and as you can see in the video, I simply ignored them. I know, and you know, that I played fairly and without cheating. If you consider NightWanderer's video enough to not pay me, I can understand your decision. I see why you think I cheated, and I see why this is your new excuse. It's a good one. I, on the other hand, don't believe my funds should be withdrawn until you can actually prove that I made use of the two hashes (which I didn't). Ball's in your court now.
When did you receive these hashes? Before or after your wins on CrashDoge?

Before, but as you can see, I ignored them. I didn't even know what they were or how to use them. So far, what crashingcrypto has provided is not even close to proof of me cheating. Him and I both know I won fairly.
If you had the hash before you played then you could calculate the outcome of every round. You also won a ridiculous amount that is very close to certain to not happen fairly. BTW, you were also going into playing trying to 100x your deposit which is also very unlikely to happen.

You need to give back what you withdrew. You are in the wrong.
Going through what y'all said and I'm surprised how a gambler will continue to gamble to the extent of waging a huge amount on a site which barely pay you all your previous winning in full?
In addition, the guy which expose the hash was the same guy who owe Stack gambler some fund and Stack said he got the hash after his games? I don't see anyone in the world that will see free winning link like that and ignore it not mention we gamblers that usually look for a means nag the house.

The only person that can make us know the truth is the Night wanderer.

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