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Earths Team is currently part of the Hatch Team. Hatch Team has been known to everyone since last year Hatch doesn't even work. In this topic, the Earths platform has been announced. If you don’t have a Hatch Core wallet that is used only for a HATCH coin, you need to contact HATCH support. You are Hatch Support. See? I only brought it up because you used it to defend remaining anonymous while requiring users to send you personal information. To reduce risks, the entire Earths Team is completely private.
Reduce risk of what? Being held responsible for your actions? If you don’t know or pretend you don’t know what risk is, including bank risk, use Google. I know what risk is. What specific risks you are reducing by remaining anonymous while requiring users to hand over personal information? Earths Team will remain private and will continue to issue money only after passing verification. What specific risks you are reducing by remaining anonymous? Waves has no problem putting their real names and photos on their project, why do you? Earths Team are many of the Hatch Team, but not all. Hatch Team is completely private, so the Earths Team is also completely private. You still haven't explained why you insist on remaining anonymous. Why did you change TotalEarths from 100000000L to 92233000000L after forking it from Waves? (It was called TotalWaves initially) this is going to be hilarious!!! lol they insist that they remain to be private to reduce the risk. risk of what? exposing their true identities? while they are asking for copy of passports of their potential clients, they want to remain anonymous. i hope people will be smart enough on this one and not fall for another trap. they need to answer also those above basic questions... We also hope that you and those who, together with you, bully and mock Hatch Team projects will ever get tired.
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Why did you change TotalEarths from 100000000L to 92233000000L after forking it from Waves? (It was called TotalWaves initially)
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October 29, 2019, 03:50:23 AM |
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Hello,
What identification methods do you want us to add for those who wish to participate in the UBI program?
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Hello,
What identification methods do you want us to add for those who wish to participate in the UBI program?
You should probably identify yourselves so people know who they are sending their information to, in case something goes wrong, like you end up selling it, losing it, or otherwise have it compromised. You need some sort of accountability if you expect people to take you seriously. Seeing as how EARTHS coin has no volume (no buyers), that's going to be a very hard task to accomplish.
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October 29, 2019, 08:00:25 AM |
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Hello,
What identification methods do you want us to add for those who wish to participate in the UBI program?
You should probably identify yourselves so people know who they are sending their information to, in case something goes wrong, like you end up selling it, losing it, or otherwise have it compromised. You need some sort of accountability if you expect people to take you seriously. Seeing as how EARTHS coin has no volume (no buyers), that's going to be a very hard task to accomplish. I didn’t say hello to a scammer like you and did not ask a question. If you think that this question was asked of you, then you are mistaken. If you hope that something will happen to one of the members of the Earths Team, then you will not wait. You can no longer try to whitewash yourself. You harmed and continue to harm our projects. Get out.
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October 29, 2019, 08:09:57 AM |
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Project is a total fraud, an attempt to steal your personal ID-documents at first and possibly your money later.
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October 29, 2019, 08:22:10 AM Last edit: October 29, 2019, 08:36:59 AM by Hatch Support |
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You are a scammer and liar, we didn’t have a single complaint. You write that I am a known scammer. Do you have a mental disorder? We do not collect documents but carry out identity verification to participate in the universal basic income program.
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October 29, 2019, 11:19:20 AM |
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You are a scammer and liar, we didn’t have a single complaint. You write that I am a known scammer. Do you have a mental disorder? We do not collect documents but carry out identity verification to participate in the universal basic income program. I just don't understand how you can make that happen when EARTHS coin has zero volume. Can you explain how you plan to obtain buyers for the EARTHS coin? By the way, I don't think my suggestion of publicly identifying yourself is unreasonable. After all, you are asking people to give their identities to you. Why shouldn't they be allowed to ask for the same?
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October 30, 2019, 07:12:32 AM |
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You are a scammer and liar, we didn’t have a single complaint. You write that I am a known scammer. Do you have a mental disorder? We do not collect documents but carry out identity verification to participate in the universal basic income program. I just don't understand how you can make that happen when EARTHS coin has zero volume. Can you explain how you plan to obtain buyers for the EARTHS coin? By the way, I don't think my suggestion of publicly identifying yourself is unreasonable. After all, you are asking people to give their identities to you. Why shouldn't they be allowed to ask for the same? You are a scammer and a liar. You are one of those who accuses the honest Hatch Team and Earths Team of fraud. We do not deal with fraudsters. Any of your questions and advice will be ignored. Get out.
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October 30, 2019, 07:53:50 AM |
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You are a scammer and liar, we didn’t have a single complaint. You write that I am a known scammer. Do you have a mental disorder? We do not collect documents but carry out identity verification to participate in the universal basic income program. I just don't understand how you can make that happen when EARTHS coin has zero volume. Can you explain how you plan to obtain buyers for the EARTHS coin? By the way, I don't think my suggestion of publicly identifying yourself is unreasonable. After all, you are asking people to give their identities to you. Why shouldn't they be allowed to ask for the same? You are a scammer and a liar. You are one of those who accuses the honest Hatch Team and Earths Team of fraud. We do not deal with fraudsters. Any of your questions and advice will be ignored. Get out. Oppss! Seems that the tone here is not so good. I think the situation is rooting from the fact that you are asking for important data from the users like passport details and scan of this doc for identity verification, whereas we couldn't see who are behind this project. I understand that it is part of your verification purposes, however, some individuals wanted to know who are managing this platform in return. By the way, are there customers who already did submit their form to receive this Universal Basic Income? Can you give us approx number of those clients? Thanks.
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October 30, 2019, 08:20:56 AM Last edit: October 30, 2019, 08:35:25 AM by Hatch Support |
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You are a scammer and liar, we didn’t have a single complaint. You write that I am a known scammer. Do you have a mental disorder? We do not collect documents but carry out identity verification to participate in the universal basic income program. I just don't understand how you can make that happen when EARTHS coin has zero volume. Can you explain how you plan to obtain buyers for the EARTHS coin? By the way, I don't think my suggestion of publicly identifying yourself is unreasonable. After all, you are asking people to give their identities to you. Why shouldn't they be allowed to ask for the same? You are a scammer and a liar. You are one of those who accuses the honest Hatch Team and Earths Team of fraud. We do not deal with fraudsters. Any of your questions and advice will be ignored. Get out. Oppss! Seems that the tone here is not so good. I think the situation is rooting from the fact that you are asking for important data from the users like passport details and scan of this doc for identity verification, whereas we couldn't see who are behind this project. I understand that it is part of your verification purposes, however, some individuals wanted to know who are managing this platform in return. By the way, are there customers who already did submit their form to receive this Universal Basic Income? Can you give us approx number of those clients? Thanks. This is not the only message from this scammer, a direct answer was given on this. The UBI project was created by the Earths Team, which is part of the Hatch Team. In UBI, everything is simple, if you can confirm your identity and need help, we will help. We do not want to be visible to everyone and to be recognized on the streets because in the end, this can harm the confidentiality of EARTHS coin holders. Before launching our first HATCH project, we conducted market research and made conclusions. Which is due to the fact that the Hatch Team consists of people located in different countries with different laws. In some of these countries, the legalization of cryptocurrencies is just beginning and the laws are not worked out to the end. Therefore, we decided to be a completely private Team to reduce risks. For the same reason, the Earths Team is completely private. We are considering the possibility of using VeraCrypt when processing the data of participants in the UBI program. Maybe someone can suggest something better?
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October 30, 2019, 08:49:25 AM |
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A private, anonymous "team", collecting your passport info in exchange for worthless tokens... What could go wrong? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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October 30, 2019, 11:25:21 AM |
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A private, anonymous "team", collecting your passport info in exchange for worthless tokens... What could go wrong? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) You are a scammer and everything went wrong with you. You want to get the money, but you don’t want us to know who you are. And then get some accounts and get UBI. It will not work.
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October 30, 2019, 12:17:27 PM |
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A private, anonymous "team", collecting your passport info in exchange for worthless tokens... What could go wrong? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) You are a scammer and everything went wrong with you. You want to get the money, but you don’t want us to know who you are. And then get some accounts and get UBI. It will not work. Its going to be hard for you to give anybody UBI when your token has a total buy support of 0.000006 BTC (and 0.000252 ETH, and 0.0226 LTC)... The last time anybody traded it was in May. https://www.probitex.com/trade/index/market/earths_btchttps://www.probitex.com/trade/index/market/earths_ethhttps://www.probitex.com/trade/index/market/earths_ltcDidn't it occur to you at some point that you need buyers for your scheme to work? Or did you just never care because the whole point is to trick people into giving you their passport information?
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October 30, 2019, 12:38:36 PM |
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Truly scam project that collect people data and sell it ! beware of this project guys, do not provide any kyc on their website. i dont see any picture of their them, then ask people to kyc on website, BIG SCAM
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October 30, 2019, 11:13:42 PM |
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Why did you change TotalEarths from 100000000L to 92233000000L after forking it from Waves? (It was called TotalWaves initially)
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October 31, 2019, 10:21:57 AM |
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Why did you change TotalEarths from 100000000L to 92233000000L after forking it from Waves? (It was called TotalWaves initially)
I already wrote to you more than once. We do not answer scam questions. Get out.
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October 31, 2019, 11:48:34 AM |
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So I went through the github for Earths. It's a fork of Waves. https://github.com/wavesplatform/Waveshttps://github.com/earthspay/EarthsPretty much all the commits since they forked it, except 1, are just replacing any mention of "Wave" with "Earths". Every variable, filename, directory, documentation etc. There was one commit called "fix" that caught my eye: https://github.com/earthspay/Earths/commit/4aaca912c9da5424b76499e8f957baec4e76c6fd![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2Ff9b71dbde95bc421c0e92d1626556bc5.png&t=665&c=a8dSSmUTEuV8CA) So the only real technical change they made to the project was in this file: src/main/scala/com/earthspay/settings/Constants.scala The original file looked like this: package com.wavesplatform.settings
import com.wavesplatform.Version import com.wavesplatform.utils.ScorexLogging
/** * System constants here. */ object Constants extends ScorexLogging { val ApplicationName = "waves" val AgentName = s"Waves v${Version.VersionString}"
val UnitsInWave = 100000000L val TotalWaves = 100000000L } They deleted that file, and replaced it with this one (notice the change in TotalEarths goes way up): package com.earthspay.settings
import com.earthspay.Version import com.earthspay.utils.ScorexLogging
/** * System constants here. */ object Constants extends ScorexLogging { val ApplicationName = "earths" val AgentName = s"Earths v${Version.VersionString}"
val UnitsInEarth = 100000000L val TotalEarths = 9223300000000000000L } Then they changed only the TotalEarths, deleting a few zeros: package com.earthspay.settings
import com.earthspay.Version import com.earthspay.utils.ScorexLogging
/** * System constants here. */ object Constants extends ScorexLogging { val ApplicationName = "earths" val AgentName = s"Earths v${Version.VersionString}"
val UnitsInEarth = 100000000L val TotalEarths = 92233000000L } So it looks like the only thing they were interested in changing was TotalEarths. My guess is that first they added too many zeroes and got an error, so they reduced it a bit with a new commit. I'm not familiar with the waves platform so I'll let someone else determine if this actually could be part of a scam. OP, could you just let your users know what's up with the totalEarths please? And let me know if I missed anything.
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October 31, 2019, 12:47:20 PM |
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So I went through the github for Earths. It's a fork of Waves. https://github.com/wavesplatform/Waveshttps://github.com/earthspay/EarthsPretty much all the commits since they forked it, except 1, are just replacing any mention of "Wave" with "Earths". Every variable, filename, directory, documentation etc. There was one commit called "fix" that caught my eye: https://github.com/earthspay/Earths/commit/4aaca912c9da5424b76499e8f957baec4e76c6fd![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2Ff9b71dbde95bc421c0e92d1626556bc5.png&t=665&c=a8dSSmUTEuV8CA) So the only real technical change they made to the project was in this file: src/main/scala/com/earthspay/settings/Constants.scala The original file looked like this: package com.wavesplatform.settings
import com.wavesplatform.Version import com.wavesplatform.utils.ScorexLogging
/** * System constants here. */ object Constants extends ScorexLogging { val ApplicationName = "waves" val AgentName = s"Waves v${Version.VersionString}"
val UnitsInWave = 100000000L val TotalWaves = 100000000L } They deleted that file, and replaced it with this one (notice the change in TotalEarths goes way up): package com.earthspay.settings
import com.earthspay.Version import com.earthspay.utils.ScorexLogging
/** * System constants here. */ object Constants extends ScorexLogging { val ApplicationName = "earths" val AgentName = s"Earths v${Version.VersionString}"
val UnitsInEarth = 100000000L val TotalEarths = 9223300000000000000L } Then they changed only the TotalEarths, deleting a few zeros: package com.earthspay.settings
import com.earthspay.Version import com.earthspay.utils.ScorexLogging
/** * System constants here. */ object Constants extends ScorexLogging { val ApplicationName = "earths" val AgentName = s"Earths v${Version.VersionString}"
val UnitsInEarth = 100000000L val TotalEarths = 92233000000L } So it looks like the only thing they were interested in changing was TotalEarths. My guess is that first they added too many zeroes and got an error, so they reduced it a bit with a new commit. I'm not familiar with the waves platform so I'll let someone else determine if this actually could be part of a scam. OP, could you just let your users know what's up with the totalEarths please? And let me know if I missed anything. Excellent work, good sir. Have my last merit. (They are harder to come by these days for me -- I have to do something "extraordinary" "again," I suppose.) Yes I suppose having more than 9 sextillion EARTHS was just too many, so they scaled it down to a mean 92.233 billion. That way, everybody on the planet can have 12.25 EARTHS. If that's the only change then I would say the software in itself isn't scammy, but the ploy to collect passport data is. I think WAVES is a great platform, as far as they go. Duplicating it is a bit unnecessary. They could have just created a token within WAVES itself.
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November 08, 2019, 03:38:07 AM |
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Unfortunately, we do not support scammers like you.
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