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April 01, 2019, 08:50:35 AM
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Due to all this demand boom, for many it turns out to be very bad regulations, since it is a way to know who is behind the big money operations, the KYC a problem for those who want to continue operating under anonymity, the solution Are the coins anonymous? The market will take the direction there in the future?

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April 01, 2019, 10:28:47 AM
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Anonymous coins don't change the fact that you need to do KYC at an exchange. Anonymous coins needs exchange where you can stay anonymous. The problem is that only a few still exists. And the volume of exchange is very low compare to big exchanges which requires KYC. And exchanging your anonymous coins to fiat make you no more anonymous. But it can protects the fact that nobody really know how much coins you are holding on your wallet. As you can't know how much hold a wallet on the blockchain.
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April 01, 2019, 11:08:01 AM
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Anonymous coins don't change the fact that you need to do KYC at an exchange. Anonymous coins needs exchange where you can stay anonymous. The problem is that only a few still exists. And the volume of exchange is very low compare to big exchanges which requires KYC. And exchanging your anonymous coins to fiat make you no more anonymous. But it can protects the fact that nobody really know how much coins you are holding on your wallet. As you can't know how much hold a wallet on the blockchain.

It depends on the trader, if you are not withdrawing more than 2BTC per day, Binance will make you to use their exchange without KYC and some other few exchanges allow this. As for Privacy coins it will take time for them to gain tract the way they did in 2017, because for me most people still don't use them unlike BTC

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April 01, 2019, 12:04:12 PM
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this KYC that you are talking about here only concerns exchanges and when you buy any coin (including the anonymous coins) from an exchange you do NOT have any kind of anonymity! so whatever else you are trying to conclude here based on this anonymous thing is wrong since it doesn't make any difference to investors that are already submitting their documents on exchanges and are trading all the coins from bitcoin to anonymous coins and down to every single shitcoin in the same manner!

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April 01, 2019, 12:24:40 PM
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Complete anonymity is possible only if a person everywhere pays with only anonymous cryptocurrencies. The first change on the fiat will ruin all anonymity. IMHO all anonymous coins will be restricted in the nearest future. 

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April 01, 2019, 04:15:39 PM
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Due to all this demand boom, for many it turns out to be very bad regulations, since it is a way to know who is behind the big money operations, the KYC a problem for those who want to continue operating under anonymity, the solution Are the coins anonymous? The market will take the direction there in the future?
It depends upon how you make those transactions that you remain anonymous even with privacy based coins like monero or dark or Zcash and its variant coins which forked off from them, if you are going to purchase something you are doing so with the help of an exchange where you have submitted all your documents revealing your identity, these privacy coins will help to make transactions so that no one follows your steps on where you spent those coins.
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April 01, 2019, 04:30:16 PM
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Anonymous coins don't change the fact that you need to do KYC at an exchange. Anonymous coins needs exchange where you can stay anonymous. The problem is that only a few still exists. And the volume of exchange is very low compare to big exchanges which requires KYC. And exchanging your anonymous coins to fiat make you no more anonymous. But it can protects the fact that nobody really know how much coins you are holding on your wallet. As you can't know how much hold a wallet on the blockchain.

yep,, and maybe a decentralized exchange is the answer to stay anonymous in our trading activity my friend
for now, a dex is not so popular if we compared with a centralized exchange,, but maybe in the future dex will be greater than centralized exchange

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April 01, 2019, 05:14:57 PM
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if you are used to doing transactions with bitcoin then I suggest you to use mixing service especially use chipsmixer, with mixing service your fund will be split to some part and will be send randomly. This thing will be confusing for some people who want to track your transaction and most likely they won't be able to track it. For another coins, you can use monero, zcash, komodo, Zcoin and dash to stay anonymous.

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April 01, 2019, 05:21:59 PM
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Due to all this demand boom, for many it turns out to be very bad regulations, since it is a way to know who is behind the big money operations, the KYC a problem for those who want to continue operating under anonymity, the solution Are the coins anonymous? The market will take the direction there in the future?

I think you're mistaking coins with tokens. Tokens and investing in ICO cease to be anonymous due to the requirement to pass the KYC verification. Coins and trade still remain anonymous - except you go through KYC to exchange, but you can always use the decentralized exchange and remain completely anonymous.

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April 01, 2019, 05:50:27 PM
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Due to all this demand boom, for many it turns out to be very bad regulations since it is a way to know who is behind the big money operations, the KYC a problem for those who want to continue operating under anonymity, the solution Are the coins anonymous? The market will take the direction there in the future?

Except bitcoin all the project release the founder to last developer information. So there is no anonymity for the project itself. If you are looking for the project which can give anonymous factor to the investors, contributors and participants. There are plenty of decentralized projects available on the various projects.

You may check for decentralized without KYC for the better anonymity.

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April 02, 2019, 03:16:13 AM
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It's not the coins that does require KYC but the projects that allows you to invest and those exchanges. These businesses that are fully operational are conducting KYC for the compliance of their local regulations and law.

It's no longer decentralized if you will comply to those and it won't be called 'anonymous' anymore if there will be a coin that wants to take your privacy. That's why there are privacy coins made and that's the issue that they want to solve.

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April 02, 2019, 11:53:50 AM
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Anonymous coins have long been popular among those who do not want their transactions and transaction amounts tracked by someone, but recently government officials have often said that it is necessary to de-anonymize wallet users and refuse listing anonymous coins on large exchanges. I don’t know what this will lead to, but I continue to use anonymous coins, mostly Zcash.
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April 02, 2019, 02:08:17 PM
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Maybe you can use anonymous coins, but not to cash out on exchanges and trade with who want this kind of coins, you will be better without need to buy from exchanges and do kyc, but before you should find a seller and send him bitcoin or an altcoin.
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April 02, 2019, 02:14:04 PM
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Due to all this demand boom, for many it turns out to be very bad regulations, since it is a way to know who is behind the big money operations, the KYC a problem for those who want to continue operating under anonymity, the solution Are the coins anonymous? The market will take the direction there in the future?
So can you tell me about can we still remain anonymous by used anonymous coin if even that anon coin still pegged with the centralized exchange site? The solution is DEX and centralized exchange will always forced the users to do KYC.

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April 02, 2019, 02:15:15 PM
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Bitcoin is anonymous. You do not need send any kind of documents, photo or anything to create a wallet. The difference between Bitcoin and Monero is the ledger. Anyone is able to see the transaction made by a Bitcoin address, but in Monero you can not see.

But if you will buy any coin in a legal exchange, you will probably need verify your documents.

Anonymous coins serves only to make it harder to know what you are using your coins. Not to avoid kyc.
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April 02, 2019, 02:33:58 PM
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all crypto is anonymous
it's just that excange must follow regulations from the government for people registered in the exchange they must fill in the KYC.
but if you have crypto in your personal wallet. no one knows ready to deflect the wallet
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April 02, 2019, 03:20:01 PM
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all crypto is anonymous
it's just that excange must follow regulations from the government for people registered in the exchange they must fill in the KYC.
but if you have crypto in your personal wallet. no one knows ready to deflect the wallet
how can you say that all crypto currencies are anonymous? please explain to me in more detail, I do not understand why you speak like that?
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April 02, 2019, 03:22:20 PM
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all crypto is anonymous
it's just that excange must follow regulations from the government for people registered in the exchange they must fill in the KYC.
but if you have crypto in your personal wallet. no one knows ready to deflect the wallet
In my opinion, they can be private but not all cryptocurrencies are anonymous such as bitcoin becaue anyone can easily see the records of all of the transactions that have ever involved your btc address, KYC contrasts with anonymous coins because they are anonymous coins and have great privacy that focus on secure and anonymous transactions such as Mennero, Zcash, PIVX..ect, but large transaction volume is the only negative in the anonymous coins, But I think KYC is good so that criminals do not benefit from the anonymous coins system.

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April 02, 2019, 03:58:16 PM
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all crypto is anonymous
it's just that excange must follow regulations from the government for people registered in the exchange they must fill in the KYC.
but if you have crypto in your personal wallet. no one knows ready to deflect the wallet
In my opinion, they can be private but not all cryptocurrencies are anonymous such as bitcoin becaue anyone can easily see the records of all of the transactions that have ever involved your btc address, KYC contrasts with anonymous coins because they are anonymous coins and have great privacy that focus on secure and anonymous transactions such as Mennero, Zcash, PIVX..ect, but large transaction volume is the only negative in the anonymous coins, But I think KYC is good so that criminals do not benefit from the anonymous coins system.
You're with what you said because all crypto currency are not anonymous and I believe Pamsugas definitely dont know the concept behind most crypto currency. Besides, the last time I checked bitcoin itself was not totally anonymous if you look deeply But I'm really surprise with Pamsugas statement though.

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April 02, 2019, 06:02:16 PM
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all crypto is anonymous
it's just that excange must follow regulations from the government for people registered in the exchange they must fill in the KYC.
but if you have crypto in your personal wallet. no one knows ready to deflect the wallet
In my opinion, they can be private but not all cryptocurrencies are anonymous such as bitcoin becaue anyone can easily see the records of all of the transactions that have ever involved your btc address, KYC contrasts with anonymous coins because they are anonymous coins and have great privacy that focus on secure and anonymous transactions such as Mennero, Zcash, PIVX..ect, but large transaction volume is the only negative in the anonymous coins, But I think KYC is good so that criminals do not benefit from the anonymous coins system.
You're with what you said because all crypto currency are not anonymous and I believe Pamsugas definitely dont know the concept behind most crypto currency. Besides, the last time I checked bitcoin itself was not totally anonymous if you look deeply But I'm really surprise with Pamsugas statement though.
I would agree with Pamsugas here .
If crypto or Bitcoin is so easy to track or know who is behind every wallet then why Satoshi Nakamot is still unknown at the moment?
They would only know who you are if you would submit your info through KYC and only exchange and local wallet does that.
But if you are using a hard ware wallet then it is impossible that they would know who you are.
They could only have the transaction record but not your information.

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