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April 02, 2019, 04:03:47 AM |
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To use Bitcoin as a regular currency, we need a support center for these payment transactions. There is a need for an application provider that supports private exchange like banks' online payment applications.
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April 02, 2019, 04:17:17 AM |
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it is difficult to use Bitcoin if it is not illegal in your the country and does not accept payments at shopping stores with Bitcoin. if want to spend a day with Bitcoin then must have a lot of BTC on account card to exchange for fiat money. in my country Bitcoin is also not illegal and I usually have to exchange BTC first with fiat money for shoping, same like you.
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April 02, 2019, 04:22:19 AM |
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From your story I think you trouble yourself because if you accept the suggestion from your friend to convert all BTC that you will need in your vacation then you will be fine, without having to wake up your friend and even wait 5 hours to pay a hotel. We must be aware to use bitcoin in all daily lives we need government, they have authority to accept bitcoin and to ban bitcoin in theirs country, we must respect it. However, in your story we have a learning and we can take it for those people who will go to vacations, if you have bitcoin in wherever a place you are then you don't need to be afraid to run out of paper money and find a place for money changers. Just find someone in this forum then you can find it easily.
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April 02, 2019, 05:40:00 AM |
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This shows that bitcoin is not used in some countries. This doesn't mean that one can purchase goods on some online store with the use of bitcoin. I believe with time, although I don't know how long, bitcoin will be globally used for different transactions. This is very possible because bitcoin has come a long way, starting from a low price ten years ago to what it is now. It has promising positive impact in our financial world.
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April 02, 2019, 06:51:23 AM |
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Your story is not exactly the story of using bitcoin directly. It's just that you have exchanged bitcoin for local fiat and used that as a currency. I do it every month and it is very normal for a lot of people here. If you had used bitcoin directly, that would have been interesting!
I wish I were in a place where I can purchase anything with bitcoin. I would use direct bitcoin if it was available here. The problem is there's no merchant is accepting bitcoin. The purpose of this adventure (I call it adventure) is only to show how much hassle spending bitcoin is if you are living in a country where bitcoin isn't accepted in any shop or anywhere. Some are mentioning Japan, Switzerland. Not everywhere you will find bitcoin accepted shop. If you only oath to spend bitcoin, trust me, you will face more hassle than me.
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April 02, 2019, 06:55:13 AM |
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In my local, it's not illegal but no one accepts bitcoin as currency or payment method.
that is the problem with adoption not bitcoin. it is a slow process that can take years before you can call it adopted and see it accepted in most places. for example when something like PayPal first came out, nobody even trusted it let alone want to use it. if you went to some shop and wanted to pay with it, nobody would have accepted it. but nowadays it is used a lot more although it is terrible and has a lot of issues. and even today in some countries they don't even know what PayPal is! bitcoin is the same, except that unlike PayPal there is a lot of FUD against it which is slowing the adoption down even more.
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April 02, 2019, 07:10:03 AM |
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You should have been using your fiat money. If nobody in your place accepts bitcoin as payment then, it will be bad for your situation. If you will force yourself in having bitcoin as a payment with your current situation, then you're risking yourself out of your own mistake. Stick with fiat, there would be a day when bitcoin will be used by many. Don't force it out yet.
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April 02, 2019, 07:35:11 AM |
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In conclusion, it is impossible to live with no fiat if you live in a place when there is no store/merchant that accepts bitcoin as payment method. I'll have the same experience with you if I try to do the same thing in my country.
I think that is simply what point Op is making. Having bitcoin in your wallet while you can not disburse it freely and directly to take care of what you want because there are no direct usage can be frustrating for anybody. This is the reason we need to understand whether the area we are travelling to uses bitcoin rather than believing that it is used there to avoid being frustrated.
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April 02, 2019, 10:59:03 AM |
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In the future, crypto (especially Bitcoin) will be used as a means of payment in all developed countries and in developing countries. But it will not happen too soon, because most traders are not open minded, and they are afraid to adopt this method of payment. The crypto market needs a better promotion so that people get curious and inform about that market. FIAT currencies will never disappear from the world.
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April 03, 2019, 02:58:58 AM |
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In the future, crypto (especially Bitcoin) will be used as a means of payment in all developed countries and in developing countries. But it will not happen too soon, because most traders are not open minded, and they are afraid to adopt this method of payment. The crypto market needs a better promotion so that people get curious and inform about that market. FIAT currencies will never disappear from the world.
They still using this as a financial assets instead of using it for daily basis, transactions can be done smoothly if more and more people who will be willingly adopt the system, for now we can't argue about the actual usage especially to those place where knowledge about bitcoin is not that much.
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April 03, 2019, 05:20:51 AM |
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Bitcoin isn't legal in some countries but even if in some countries, it's legal, one still have to face hassle if they want to use bitcoin in every step of real life. Most of the shops don't accept it. In my local, it's not illegal but no one accepts bitcoin as currency or payment method. However, last week, I was in vacation and decided to use bitcoin for a whole 1 day. As bitcoin isn't allowed here, I choose one local guy(he owns a local exchange) who exchange bitcoin for my native currency. I decided not to use any fiat directly from my pocket. What I did, whenever I was in need of fiat, I had to contact with that local guy and sent him BTC for fiat. I could have done it at once but I choose to exchange only if I need. I could have used localbitcoin but it requires more time. 10 PMI need approx $30 for transportation cost and I talked with the guy over phone and exchanged 0.02 BTC for fiat. I bought ticket and spent some fiat for foods. I had a few bucks left in my pocket. I reached at destination at 04:00 am and I had to have rent a room but I didn't have enough fiat. I called that guy at 4 am, he didn't picked the phone since he was sleeping. So, I had to spend some times at waiting room, at some point I slept for a while ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I had a few bucks left from yesterday, spent these on breakfast. Again, I called that guy and this time, he picked up the phone. We had talked for some minutes, he was asking me to exchange all the amount I need to but I decided not to exchange these at once. So, I exchanged 0.05 BTC this time and rented a room. I spent couple of hours there. Later, went out for having some fun. After completing my lunch, I came back to room and had a rest for some times. In afternoon, I had visited some places, had some food.Then I came back to my room and had rest for couple of hours before going to dinner. I had left some fiat from the previous exchange. I used these for dinner and left almost nothing. I decided to exchange the rest 0.03 BTC because I had to have breakfast at morning. I slept till 8 am. Later, I got freshed and took my breakfast before getting back to my home. ConclusionYou probably have easily read the whole story but only I know how much pain it was when I had to wait almost 5 hours without a single fiat money. I had done this only out of my curiosity. We are still far away from using bitcoin as our daily currency. P.S- I had fiat option to pay since I had my card with me. I took it to avoid any unexpected issue. This thing indicates that the majority of the population there's still unfamiliar with the existence of bitcoin perhaps due to a lack of socialization. Besides that maybe bitcoin in your location hasn't been fully supported by the government, so you can not feel the positive benefits that bitcoin brings especially in making transactions. But the good thing is that bitcoin there's considered not illegal so this condition can trigger the presence of new influencers there, and your whole story will probably be different with what will happen in the future.
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April 03, 2019, 05:41:12 AM |
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Your story is not exactly the story of using bitcoin directly. It's just that you have exchanged bitcoin for local fiat and used that as a currency. I do it every month and it is very normal for a lot of people here. If you had used bitcoin directly, that would have been interesting!
I wish I were in a place where I can purchase anything with bitcoin. I would use direct bitcoin if it was available here. The problem is there's no merchant is accepting bitcoin. The purpose of this adventure (I call it adventure) is only to show how much hassle spending bitcoin is if you are living in a country where bitcoin isn't accepted in any shop or anywhere. Some are mentioning Japan, Switzerland. Not everywhere you will find bitcoin accepted shop. If you only oath to spend bitcoin, trust me, you will face more hassle than me. Yes, we understand your motive for posting this and we know Bitcoin to fiat conversion is a pain in the ass, but it is not a Bitcoin limitation. You should save up some money for a holiday in a country where Bitcoin adoption is much higher and then repeat this experiment, where you only deal with direct Bitcoin payment for products and services and then give your opinion on this again. I did this and I had a great time <hassle free> and without any capital control restrictions. <Bitcoin holiday> ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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April 03, 2019, 06:03:00 AM |
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Bitcoin isn't legal in some countries but even if in some countries, it's legal, one still have to face hassle if they want to use bitcoin in every step of real life. Most of the shops don't accept it. In my local, it's not illegal but no one accepts bitcoin as currency or payment method. However, last week, I was in vacation and decided to use bitcoin for a whole 1 day. As bitcoin isn't allowed here, I choose one local guy(he owns a local exchange) who exchange bitcoin for my native currency. I decided not to use any fiat directly from my pocket. What I did, whenever I was in need of fiat, I had to contact with that local guy and sent him BTC for fiat. I could have done it at once but I choose to exchange only if I need. I could have used localbitcoin but it requires more time. 10 PMI need approx $30 for transportation cost and I talked with the guy over phone and exchanged 0.02 BTC for fiat. I bought ticket and spent some fiat for foods. I had a few bucks left in my pocket. I reached at destination at 04:00 am and I had to have rent a room but I didn't have enough fiat. I called that guy at 4 am, he didn't picked the phone since he was sleeping. So, I had to spend some times at waiting room, at some point I slept for a while ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I had a few bucks left from yesterday, spent these on breakfast. Again, I called that guy and this time, he picked up the phone. We had talked for some minutes, he was asking me to exchange all the amount I need to but I decided not to exchange these at once. So, I exchanged 0.05 BTC this time and rented a room. I spent couple of hours there. Later, went out for having some fun. After completing my lunch, I came back to room and had a rest for some times. In afternoon, I had visited some places, had some food.Then I came back to my room and had rest for couple of hours before going to dinner. I had left some fiat from the previous exchange. I used these for dinner and left almost nothing. I decided to exchange the rest 0.03 BTC because I had to have breakfast at morning. I slept till 8 am. Later, I got freshed and took my breakfast before getting back to my home. ConclusionYou probably have easily read the whole story but only I know how much pain it was when I had to wait almost 5 hours without a single fiat money. I had done this only out of my curiosity. We are still far away from using bitcoin as our daily currency. P.S- I had fiat option to pay since I had my card with me. I took it to avoid any unexpected issue. well, your day with btc was actually a day with exchanger....
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April 03, 2019, 11:37:40 AM |
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I also spend 4 hours without fiat money. It is very hard to get a life without fiat money. Still, I tried it once. So I share my experience. One day I went to a meal hotel. I went to the hotel manager before going there. I had to give him ideas about Bitcoin. I told him a lot about Bitcoin. Bitcoin was able to put it into virtual currency. But before that, there was some idea about Bitcoin. Then she expressed interest in buying Bitcoin. Then I said I have Bitcoin and I will sell it. But in return, I will not accept any fiat money. I'll eat your hotel's food and give you a Bitcoin in return. She agreed. And I paid a bill of food with Bitcoin.
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You should have a career in sales. I can't believe you sold bitcoin to someone completely unaware of bicoin before. Most of my experience when introducing bitcoin to a someone is indifference. If everyone have the same acceptance with bitcoin, adoption would be an ease.
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April 03, 2019, 12:01:19 PM |
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When there were no cards and there were only Fiat. I could not imagine that when we will pay with cards. Now we can not imagine life without them. It seems to me that it will be the same with Bitcoin. In the future, it will be perceived as something everyday. I can't even imagine a day without having to look at the course of cryptocurrency.
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April 03, 2019, 12:38:27 PM |
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using bitcoin in a day is very hard because only few merchant tin he world that accept bitcoin, and i think it will be hard to use it like our fiat daily, so i hope in the future we cna use bitcoin daily without worry the price of bitocin is dropping and not stable
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April 03, 2019, 06:28:44 PM |
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There is a service in my country where I can convert bitcoin into fiat in demand. So if I would do what Op have done, it is not that hard. I will not have to wait for someone to pick up the phone and convert my btc to fiat.
But I think, the convenience of converting btc to fiat is counter productive. There is lesser demand for shops to accept btc since most people are converting it to fiat. This is reality, atleast in my country.
i would like to see someone try it in a day without converting btc. I know in some countryit is viable.
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April 03, 2019, 06:37:14 PM |
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There is a service in my country where I can convert bitcoin into fiat in demand. So if I would do what Op have done, it is not that hard. I will not have to wait for someone to pick up the phone and convert my btc to fiat.
But I think, the convenience of converting btc to fiat is counter productive. There is lesser demand for shops to accept btc since most people are converting it to fiat. This is reality, atleast in my country.
i would like to see someone try it in a day without converting btc. I know in some countryit is viable.
Well I think it really depends on your country or where you are going to spend it. In our country we could easily convert crypto into Fiat with just few clicks because of our local wallet, I also hope that in the future we could pay anything with our crypto without converting it so it would save as much time and effort.
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