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April 09, 2019, 02:39:51 PM Last edit: April 09, 2019, 11:11:48 PM by frodocooper |
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Nice one! Looking forward to adding these to my GekkoScience rack. The R808's may have to go as I never got around to mounting them the way I'd like to. For the space I have available left to mine, it's great to see a piece of your gear being sold in a case.
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April 09, 2019, 03:28:03 PM Last edit: April 09, 2019, 11:12:04 PM by frodocooper |
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Nice one! Looking forward to adding these to my GekkoScience rack. The R808's may have to go as I never got around to mounting them the way I'd like to. For the space I have available left to mine, it's great to see a piece of your gear being sold in a case.
And that case is prime for some modding/painting if it can be disassembled of course ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I'm still finishing the details but it'll have a sweet logo and the jacks will be labeled. Nothing that can't be undone, of course. And have I ever built a thing that can't be disassembled? I wouldn't do that to you guys. Or myself, frankly, because then warranty work would suck.
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April 09, 2019, 03:52:47 PM Last edit: April 09, 2019, 11:12:51 PM by frodocooper |
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I'm still finishing the details but it'll have a sweet logo and the jacks will be labeled. Nothing that can't be undone, of course. And have I ever built a thing that can't be disassembled? I wouldn't do that to you guys. Or myself, frankly, because then warranty work would suck.
I can't wait to get my hands on this one ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) They should work with Cgminer like Newpacs just connect and done? Can you put one on Youtube working ?
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April 09, 2019, 04:06:14 PM |
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I'm still finishing the details but it'll have a sweet logo and the jacks will be labeled. Nothing that can't be undone, of course. And have I ever built a thing that can't be disassembled? I wouldn't do that to you guys. Or myself, frankly, because then warranty work would suck.
It seems you've beaten me to it. I'm not one for complaining about function over form, but the first pictures you put (I know it is a work in progress ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ) could've done with some colour ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Needless to say ALL of your gear (and VH's cgminer) have always been, hands down, the best gear ive owned.
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April 09, 2019, 05:38:06 PM Last edit: April 09, 2019, 11:13:33 PM by frodocooper |
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It seems you've beaten me to it. I'm not one for complaining about function over form, but the first pictures you put (I know it is a work in progress ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ) could've done with some colour ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Needless to say ALL of your gear (and VH's cgminer) have always been, hands down, the best gear ive owned. Can't wait to do 2Tb with my 20 Newpacs and this unit about 250watts or so? I have setup 2 200watt solar panels and 200ah battery in my shed, I will be using solar to mine ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 09, 2019, 08:17:11 PM Last edit: April 09, 2019, 11:13:51 PM by frodocooper |
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Can't wait to do 2Tb with my 20 Newpacs and this unit about 250watts or so? I have setup 2 200watt solar panels and 200ah battery in my shed, I will be using solar to mine ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Ideally i would do the same but weather is just too hit or miss in the UK.
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April 10, 2019, 05:16:36 AM |
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Looking forward to another excellent GekkoScience product!
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April 10, 2019, 03:51:24 PM Last edit: April 11, 2019, 12:15:48 AM by frodocooper |
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A forum member is shipping five sticks to me this means we will have nine compacs in the raffle.
I think I will do two raffles one for North American orders from any dealer that is sidehack approved
And one from Europe from any dealer that is sidehack approved.
Six sticks in the North American raffle. Three sticks in the european raffle.
I will need to check them all out to see how they run. I will need to figure a way to do it all should be easy enough.
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April 10, 2019, 07:57:33 PM |
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Can't wait to do 2Tb with my 20 Newpacs and this unit about 250watts or so? I have setup 2 200watt solar panels and 200ah battery in my shed, I will be using solar to mine ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) In the photos, it looks like Sidehack is running it off a 6 pin PCIe connector which would be 75 watts max.
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April 10, 2019, 08:17:58 PM Last edit: April 11, 2019, 12:16:14 AM by frodocooper |
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In the photos, it looks like Sidehack is running it off a 6 pin PCIe connector which would be 75 watts max.
You are getting mistaken. the PCIe slot on a mobo is 75w the 6Pin PCIe Cable can handle 150w give or take a few (possibly more if someone wants to confirm).
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April 10, 2019, 08:26:52 PM Last edit: April 11, 2019, 12:16:41 AM by frodocooper |
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You are getting mistaken. the PCIe slot on a mobo is 75w the 6Pin PCIe Cable can handle 150w give or take a few (possibly more if someone wants to confirm).
gt_addict is correct, the cables and the connector on the pod themselves are rated at 13A and are run off a external power supply. In sidehacks case, a configurable power source so he can monitor the raw power usage, others use a break out board and a HP common slot power supply, or just a standard PC power supply with decent power ratings. just make sure your using 16 gauge wires. heres an example of the powersupply/breakout board kit https://www.419mining.com/shop/power-supply/complete-power-bundle/
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April 10, 2019, 08:27:40 PM Last edit: April 11, 2019, 12:17:52 AM by frodocooper |
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You are getting mistaken. the PCIe slot on a mobo is 75w the 6Pin PCIe Cable can handle 150w give or take a few (possibly more if someone wants to confirm).
A lot depends on cable gauge say 20ga = 75-100 watts. 18ga = 125-150 watts. 16ga = 175-200 watts. note not official numbers. mostly based on 7 years of mining using various cables.
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PCIe spec for a 6-pin specifies a 75W draw. As anyone that's run any mining gear since at least 2013 will tell you, a good PSU will give you a heck of a lot more than that. Some ASIC miners will ask for up to 300W from a single 6-pin, which is why folks started turning to high-reliable server PSUs and durable aftermarket cables.
Or did you think the S9 needed 20 jacks?
My pod's barrel connector is rated for more than 75W. The miner's internally limited to much less power than the 6-pin could provide (from a good supply).
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April 10, 2019, 08:54:54 PM |
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Cables are rated in Amps, not Watts.
A typical, single core, 16 gauge wire is usually max rated at 15 Amps (times miner 12V) = 180 Watts and 18 gauge at 9.5 Amps x 12V = 114 Watts
A PSU PCI-e connector usually has 3 wires so can deliver 3 times that per cable.
But the limits can be the connectors, which usually are hard to find out what their specs are. (the cables are a lot easier coz they usually say their AWG on them)
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I trusted the 16AWG cables I manufactured to handle 8A per wire for 288W total on a 12V system.
The internal Vcore regulator on this pod is limited to 20A at a peak of about 5.5 volts for 110W total. Add in peripherals, inefficiency and the fan and you should never need more than about 10A of 12V for this guy.
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April 11, 2019, 12:10:01 AM Last edit: April 11, 2019, 12:19:12 AM by frodocooper |
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Can't wait to do 2Tb with my 20 Newpacs and this unit about 250watts or so? I have setup 2 200watt solar panels and 200ah battery in my shed, I will be using solar to mine ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This sounds awesome. Doing this off solar or wind has always been a fascination of mine. You mind sharing the equipment you use and how you set it all up?
Along the lines of discussion above, will any of the resellers be able to provide power supplies? I've always used USB ports and DC adapters because it's easy and I'm a dunce. Sounds like these will force me to up my game a bit.
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I don't know what additional specifics resellers will offer for packages, but everyone should have at least the base option of a quality 8A power brick. That'd serve you pretty well unless you wanted either more efficiency for running a stack of units, or to max the overclock of a single unit.
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April 11, 2019, 01:09:47 AM |
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PCIe spec for a 6-pin specifies a 75W draw. As anyone that's run any mining gear since at least 2013 will tell you, a good PSU will give you a heck of a lot more than that. Some ASIC miners will ask for up to 300W from a single 6-pin, which is why folks started turning to high-reliable server PSUs and durable aftermarket cables.
Or did you think the S9 needed 20 jacks?
My pod's barrel connector is rated for more than 75W. The miner's internally limited to much less power than the 6-pin could provide (from a good supply).
I've run a bunch of different mining gear but only since 2014 and I learned something new today. I'm running my S9 on an Endermax 1800 with the 6+2 PCIe, just not using the extra 2 wires. I thought that to get 150 watts, you needed a 6+2 even if just using 6 and not the +2. I bought extra 6+2 cords, when I might have gotten away with the 6's. Although the wire gauge might not have been the same? However, I guess PSUs differ and of course I was assuming the spec is reality, which is not the case. Obviously you can wire up whatever you want as well but I'm usually not hacking together PSUs like you probably do.
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The high-end ATX generally have a single 12V rail that's piped to all the cables. I don't know that any of them have per-cable current limiting but if one did it'd be completely unsuitable for mining - even GPU mining. The 75W/150W spec is for PCIe compliance on the device end so the PSU is required to source that much as a minimum standard but a good one will be capable of quite a bit more.
Technically the 6-pin PCIe, to be in spec, only has to have power on two of the 12V lines. And the only difference between the 6-pin and 8-pin (6+2 commonly) is power guaranteed on the third line, plus two extra ground lines. But a good PSU will always have power on all three power lines even for a 6-pin.
Anyways, for this miner, if going over about 8A you'll want to use the 6-pin. Shouldn't be possible to get much over 10A draw out of it regardless.
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