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April 04, 2019, 01:02:22 AM
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Ever since crypto gambling came alive, many of us have enjoyed these services without the need of know your customer aka KYC and avoided any territorial restrictions that come with most of our fiat casino and sports books. But what am really interested to learn about this industry...is do we have users, shills or competitors that are in it to give false reviews or generally bad press in the name of discrediting these companies?? I don't know about you guys but I have seen many crypto companies being put on the chopping board even when we customer's/players are in the wrong but still the company has to take the bullet and put it's reputation on the line....Are these business practices of saying the customer is always right justifiable? And who protects these companies if reputation is gold in the crypto world??
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April 04, 2019, 08:46:47 PM
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Gambling sites would be put up on chopping boards if those shilling,false reviews and issues are being proven yet the community would really make such move for
the site to be sued on what they have done but in terms of countries jurisdiction these gambling sites doesnt really have the problem if they arent committing serious
shady acts.


I still have faith in the gambling system, especially now that projects like faireum.io has revolutionized it.
Stop shilling out your faireum.io site. You are spamming everywhere.

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April 04, 2019, 10:01:22 PM
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It is not bad faith and all we may consider it as bad understanding over gambling investment and way of approaching. Plenty of gambling investors still available to make their fund on gambling and loose the money without proper knowledge on games.
KYC things and restrictions notice were poped up on site they may pin the VPN and using it who knows.

 
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April 04, 2019, 11:11:08 PM
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Business is business and a company will do anything to profit including posting fake reviews, fake subscribers etc. We still dont know if thats real or just spreading fake news again but i still trust the gambling system. Black propagandas are everywhere.

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April 05, 2019, 02:54:12 AM
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When there's a competition, it's part of it. It's not just about gambling and casino's but in any industry, you see reviews that are being published to give bad publicity to reduce their customers pool. There's some reviews too that has a main thing to do but to give good reviews. Every company is open for critic but those reviews that's giving them bad impression intentionally is a desperate move from their competitors. And if you're worried about protecting them, don't worry customers who are loyal to their casino and experiences heaven will not listen to hearsays.

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April 05, 2019, 04:44:11 AM
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If it is false accusations then it won't hold anything right?

The casino that's been put into the spotlight will have nothing to lose since it's a fake review and fake accusations. They can simply put all the proof out and it's up to the gaming public which one to believed.

You will noticed that there are accusations around the forum, again, if it's baseless, that thread will simply die and be forgotten because gamblers are also smart people, they don't just listen to anyone, specially if they smell something fishy or the real motive of the accuser.

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April 05, 2019, 05:03:52 AM
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When there's a competition, it's part of it. It's not just about gambling and casino's but in any industry, you see reviews that are being published to give bad publicity to reduce their customers pool. There's some reviews too that has a main thing to do but to give good reviews. Every company is open for critic but those reviews that's giving them bad impression intentionally is a desperate move from their competitors. And if you're worried about protecting them, don't worry customers who are loyal to their casino and experiences heaven will not listen to hearsays.

You have a good point, we cant deny that this "fake reviews" practice is happening everywhere. That's why we should not rely on reviews completely, we should be able to filter which reviews are honest and which reviews are fake. This is why this forum is very helpful, I will only trust reviews made by users with good trust or good experiences, obviously there should be valid proofs of the review as well.

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April 05, 2019, 05:29:41 AM
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I wouldn't say it's normal, but it's been practice not just in gambling industry, but almost business when there is a stiff and cut-throat competition. So I don't rely on reviews, but I closely watch the gambling site or the gamblers response to that particular site. Maybe if someone trusted or reputable here reported that he didn't have a good experience on that website, so that's a red flag already.

Perhaps you can also try it for yourself, and see the experience, if it's true or not. It's a fraudulent practice, I agree, so not only in investing we need to investigate, we also need to dig deeper on gambling sites that we wanted to play our money with.

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April 05, 2019, 06:33:16 AM
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Fake reviews were quite common. This can be seen with everywhere, even with reputed networks this can be seen. It is a kind of marketing tool that's been used to make them listed top on the specific service rendering. Till date gambling network with cryptocurrency isn't that untrusty. As gambling industry has contributed big to the growth of bitcoin, the ecosystem is highly recommended from my view.

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April 05, 2019, 06:49:06 AM
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It's with the house/gambling site to prove it wrong, and coming out from that type of bad publicity will bring them more be trusted, how they handle this type of issue can bring them much stronger business, we can't deny it that there's really competitors that will try to make the site looks bad, though it will be hard to prove it but in some cases it's really happened.

Reputable gambling business got established with same fate, they just got a good solutions that's why gamblers still using their services.
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April 05, 2019, 07:29:16 AM
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Ever since crypto gambling came alive, many of us have enjoyed these services without the need of know your customer aka KYC and avoided any territorial restrictions that come with most of our fiat casino and sports books. But what am really interested to learn about this industry...is do we have users, shills or competitors that are in it to give false reviews or generally bad press in the name of discrediting these companies?? I don't know about you guys but I have seen many crypto companies being put on the chopping board even when we customer's/players are in the wrong but still the company has to take the bullet and put it's reputation on the line....Are these business practices of saying the customer is always right justifiable? And who protects these companies if reputation is gold in the crypto world??
There are some crypto gambling sites using shill to show that they are also a trusted site but if you spand 10 or more minutes on google about researching a gambling site you can find the actual review about the site so they are not a big threat to the reputation of gambling site.Don't just blindly play on any gambling sites just read few reviews from different sources.









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April 05, 2019, 08:14:05 AM
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In business, there are always competitions in each company and gambling is a sort of business. Correct, they are spreading bad faith in gambling system because they know that this industry will get more profit from the investors. Of course, we can't deny the fact that it is possible to happen that black propaganda was always there to destroy the reputation in the gambling system. But I won't listen to them even others if they know how gambling works.
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April 05, 2019, 08:40:48 AM
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But what am really interested to learn about this industry...is do we have users, shills or competitors that are in it to give false reviews or generally bad press in the name of discrediting these companies??

Yes, there are people who are paid a big amount of money to do a review and make the site look good or not, especially the well-known review site.

Are these business practices of saying the customer is always right justifiable?

Every business that you know has this motto, but there is some extent that business has the right to refuse a customer.


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April 05, 2019, 11:27:39 AM
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There will always be false reviews just to pretend that the company was making a great thing for their customer. But in the end, the good customer will know that is a fake review. Besides that, if the companies want to make a competition, the good company will always be the winner, and they don't make a mistake by making a false review or anything that could lead them to lose the customer.

The customer cannot make in any mistake (and if they are already made a mistake) the company will tell the situations with the details explanation, and if the customer can know and understand what the mistake is, I am sure that they will admit that they are making a mistake and not the company.

The customer will protect these companies by making the right review and honest. They will support the company if the company is right and still making good things to the customer. And related to the gambling industry, there will always be a bad and good inside the gambling business and only the right company that will survive and could gain more customer because they are very recommended and have a good reputation among the others.
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April 05, 2019, 12:04:31 PM
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People have always viewed gambling with negative perceptions and at that either the mistake come from them they always pass the blame to the casino I don't know why, ever since the arrival of cryptocurrency gambling they have eradicated the traditional casino houses that always place lots of restrictions on participation and location problem but that is a thing of the past now it great to see more gambling sites coming up and with incredible features.
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April 05, 2019, 05:02:01 PM
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Without the trust we cannot survive here in gambling and is the income only came along with your luck and the trust based system so it can be important to be faith among the the gambling sites and also the profit that we can be we made by ourselves in this field.
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April 05, 2019, 07:24:44 PM
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I still have faith in the gambling system, especially now that projects like faireum.io has revolutionized it.
I have faith in gambling industry and it is highly important we are able to keep faith with the blockchain related one.  I find it very difficult to said anything negative against any gambling project that has cryptocurrencies relationship.  We should no that investments in trading and gambling entails alot of FOMO and that is why we should takes responsibility for our actions on cryptocurrencies.
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April 05, 2019, 08:22:56 PM
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There will always be false reviews just to pretend that the company was making a great thing for their customer. But in the end, the good customer will know that is a fake review. Besides that, if the companies want to make a competition, the good company will always be the winner, and they don't make a mistake by making a false review or anything that could lead them to lose the customer.

The customer cannot make in any mistake (and if they are already made a mistake) the company will tell the situations with the details explanation, and if the customer can know and understand what the mistake is, I am sure that they will admit that they are making a mistake and not the company.

The customer will protect these companies by making the right review and honest. They will support the company if the company is right and still making good things to the customer. And related to the gambling industry, there will always be a bad and good inside the gambling business and only the right company that will survive and could gain more customer because they are very recommended and have a good reputation among the others.

Fake reviews are everywhere. Most of the paid listing sites do that in favor of their clients.
But the real gamer knows the real deal. They will try it for themselves and verify if the claims are true or not.
And he will check for legit feedbacks from fellow gamers. In time, we will know who is saying the truth.
Actual experience also will testify what is really going on in that gambling site. Just test it with small amount and see for yourself.
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April 05, 2019, 10:47:53 PM
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Are these business practices of saying the customer is always right justifiable? And who protects these companies if reputation is gold in the crypto world??
It's different. Every case is unique.

Fake reviews and shilling are part of the industry. Bad PR is nothing new really but there's a way to not get confused by it.
When you go online you're bombarded with information good and bad, real and fake. You have to learn to trust only verified information and do the work to check every bit yourself before you believe it.

When I see advertising I check it if it's real and not fake. Fake advertising is shilling and you can really notice it if you try
When I see scam accusations I also look for proof to confirm it.
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April 06, 2019, 12:20:10 AM
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It is not bad faith and all we may consider it as bad understanding over gambling investment and way of approaching. Plenty of gambling investors still available to make their fund on gambling and loose the money without proper knowledge on games.
KYC things and restrictions notice were poped up on site they may pin the VPN and using it who knows.
I am also more directed to it, not a non-trusting company or a fake identity, but rather to the company that knows its customers, and maybe they give a limit to each customer, for example multiple accounts are prohibited. this is not a bad thing, and kyc can still be accepted.
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