UFC 236: Holloway vs Poirier 2 Info and Prediction Thread

[tokeweed]

Date: Saturday, April 13
Preliminary Card (ESPN+): 23:15 BCT / 3:15pm PST / 6:15pm EST
Preliminary Card (ESPN): 1:00 BCT / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (ESPN): 3:00 BCT / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://www.fìrstrow.eu/




Main Card (ESPN+)

Max Holloway (20-3) vs. Dustin Poirier (24-5) (Interim Lightweight Championship)
Kelvin Gastelum (15-3) vs. Israel Adesanya (16-0) (Interim Middleweight Championship)
Eryk Anders (11-3) vs. Khalil Rountree Jr. (7-3) (Light Heavyweight)
Alan Jouban (16-6) vs. Dwight Grant (9-2) (Welterweight)
Ovince Saint Preux (23-12) vs. Nikita Krylov (24-6) (Light Heavyweight)

Preliminary Card (ESPN)

Jalin Turner (8-4) vs. Matt Frevola (6-1-1) (Lightweight)
Wilson Reis (23-9) vs. Alexandre Pantoja (20-3) (Flyweight)
Max Griffin (14-6) vs. Zelim Imadaev (8-0) (Welterweight)
Boston Salmon (6-1) vs. Khalid Taha (12-2) (Bantamweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Curtis Millender (17-4) vs. Belal Muhammad (14-3) (Welterweight)
Montel Jackson (7-1) vs. Andre Soukhamthath (13-6) (Bantamweight)
Lauren Mueller (5-1) vs. Poliana Botelho (7-2) (Women's Flyweight)
Brandon Davis (9-5) vs. Randy Costa (4-0) (Bantamweight)

Thanks to the Puertorican for letting me use this content.

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[tokeweed]

Here are some vids to start.  I hope this gets more of you to get into watching the event.  I wish the UFC uploaded Poirier vs Gaethje.  The vid below they have vs Holloway doesn't show his development as a fighter.  It mostly feels like a promotion mostly for Holloway.  

Anyway, I'll look for a boot leg vid of that match and post it itt if I can find it...  Enjoy.  

UFC 236 Free Fight:  Holloway vs Poirier 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqMwkVu3RNs

UFC 236 Free Fight:  Holloway vs Ortega
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBU4Hxqe8vY

UFC 236 Free Fight:  Adesanya vs Silva
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr8AhulhFuE

UFC 236 Free Fight:  Gastelum vs Bisping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9kkFb6cQ_M

Edit:  Found it!  The quality's not as good tho.

Poirier vs Gaethje
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlEiKM5wJGU

Watch eeeet!!!

[YuginKadoya]

Max Halloway now had a chance for revenge against Dustin Poirier But I can see that this is going to be hard for him because of the advantage Poirier had, His experience and reach is pretty much a threat against Halloway, but this can be a great fight because both fighters would surely give their all in the fight, Like in my previous post I will bet for Dustin Poirier because of his experience in the league.

[Bitinity]

It is a bit confusing to see 2 same thread discussing about this event although the other one is created by other member.
As I know you are the first member who are focusing to create thread about UFC predictions, so I think it is better if you make 1 thread only for all UFC events instead creating many threads so all discussion related to UFC will be on 1 thread only. You only need to update the main post once there is new events so it can be tracked easily. Just my 2 cents

[tokeweed]

Max Halloway now had a chance for revenge against Dustin Poirier But I can see that this is going to be hard for him because of the advantage Poirier had, His experience and reach is pretty much a threat against Halloway, but this can be a great fight because both fighters would surely give their all in the fight, Like in my previous post I will bet for Dustin Poirier because of his experience in the league.

^  I'd be betting on Poirier cos I think the line on Holloway is kinda steep.  But if it moved giving a bit more for Holloway, maybe 1.70ish - 1.80ish then that's gonna be some nice value for Holloway.

[eaLiTy]

Max Halloway now had a chance for revenge against Dustin Poirier But I can see that this is going to be hard for him because of the advantage Poirier had, His experience and reach is pretty much a threat against Halloway, but this can be a great fight because both fighters would surely give their all in the fight, Like in my previous post I will bet for Dustin Poirier because of his experience in the league.

Max Holloway is the bigger man but Poirier has the reach advantage, but if you are counting experience, Holloway is the champion at 145 and moving up the division for his next belt and how can you neglect that and he is riding a 13 fight winning streak that dates back from 2013 and his striking skills are excellent, i go for Max to win the fight if he is healthy.

so I think it is better if you make 1 thread only for all UFC events instead creating many threads so all discussion related to UFC will be on 1 thread only. You only need to update the main post once there is new events so it can be tracked easily. Just my 2 cents

That is the best option rather than creating new threads for every events and now we have two threads for the same event.

[BRE]

Thanks tokeweed  for taking your time on making such a nice and full of info threat of the event!! with out doubt it's better than the other one.

In this ufc event my heart and my wallet are with Max and Israel. I have my btc placed in aparlay that pays X2.2

[tokeweed]

^  No problem...  I just want more of you guys getting into MMA cos it's an awesome sport.  And it's really fun to put some action in the matches.  

...  And here are some staple vids to watch before any UFC PPV event.  Enjoy. 

UFC 236:  Inside the Octagon - Holloway vs Poirier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRIt9lQThmE

UFC 236 Countdown:  Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGp7F-WuCBg

UFC 236:  Vlog Series 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD0mQh1R_P4

[peter0425]

Max Halloway now had a chance for revenge against Dustin Poirier But I can see that this is going to be hard for him because of the advantage Poirier had, His experience and reach is pretty much a threat against Halloway, but this can be a great fight because both fighters would surely give their all in the fight, Like in my previous post I will bet for Dustin Poirier because of his experience in the league.

This will surely be a good fight to watch. Max is really making a lot of improvements lately so it's going to be interesting to see if he can avenge his first lost against Poirier. Dustin is not push-over and wants to prove that his win against Max is no fluke. This could be a bloody and I hope to see the fight goes into full distance so that as fans, our money will be worth.

[tokeweed]

^  But for the line the bookies are giving Poirier, it's def value...  Even at 2.84ish at Nitrogen (got in higher at 3.05 tho  ).  The match is gonna be closer than what almost everybody expects imho.

[tokeweed]

Hey guys, here's part two of the vlog series.  I used to not watch them cos I thought they were more like fillers for the last week before the event starts.  But they actually get you into the mindset of the fighters, the coaches and everyone else behind the scenes.  

And do watch the Top 5 Finishes videos.    The main event could finish itd...

UFC 236:  Vlog Series 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isM1QdkWyxc

Poirier Top 5 Finishes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm4uF4J-dzw

Holloway Top 5 Finishes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDW_PsxYjTE

[alisafidel58]

I would still be going for Poirier in this fight, even though Max is a champion and Dustin is not. Dustin will be more eager to beat Max once again because he has a champion and there a title that is on the line in this fight.

[nydiacaskey01]

I am more interested with the Gastelum and Adesanya fight. Both fighters have an edge but it looks like Adesanya have a bright future with UFC. Whenever he fights, I always think of watching Anderson Silva on his younger years. I just hope he will not be careless like Silva on his later fights in UFC where he fools around, that's where he got caught get KOd.

[bbc.reporter]

I would still be going for Poirier in this fight, even though Max is a champion and Dustin is not. Dustin will be more eager to beat Max once again because he has a champion and there a title that is on the line in this fight.

However, Max will be eager to win a lightweight title also and be a 2 division champion.

It is also not on who is more eager. It is on who has improved more since their fight 7 years ago. I reckon it is Max Blessed Holloway. He will test Dustin Poirier's cardio on the 4th and 5th rounds and I predict Max will win by technical knockout.

[Kemarit]

I am more interested with the Gastelum and Adesanya fight. Both fighters have an edge but it looks like Adesanya have a bright future with UFC. Whenever he fights, I always think of watching Anderson Silva on his younger years. I just hope he will not be careless like Silva on his later fights in UFC where he fools around, that's where he got caught get KOd.

Agree, he is being Adensaya has been compared to the great Anderson Silva. I don't know but I have a feeling that Kevin might pull a upset here.  . As for the Max vs Dustin fight, I will also go with Max Holloway, as everyone noticed, he has improved and developed into a well rounded fighter. His name was always in the discussions to fight either Khabib, Conor and Tony F. So that's how far he his career had grow and matured.

[tokeweed]

^  The line for Adesanya is kinda steep too tho.  I think I'm gonna go for the under 3.5 rounds at 2.09ish.  I can see it finishing early since Gastelum is aggro and moves forward a lot.  You guys should know that there's a huge chance Adesanya didn't give full power vs Anderson Silva.  It was more of a show than a real bout imho.  I think he could have finished him if he really wanted to.

Edit:  UFC 236:  Vlog Series 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzUtNfyTswc

[mich]

The Hawaiian is in top form and I dont see Porier able to keep up.
In the co main, Im giving Gastelum a legit shot at defeating the barely tested Adesanya.
Adesanya looked great in his last fight defeating a over the top Anderon Silva but other then that we dont really know how good he is.
Interesting to see if Gastelum will make weight. 

[nydiacaskey01]

The Hawaiian is in top form and I dont see Porier able to keep up.
In the co main, Im giving Gastelum a legit shot at defeating the barely tested Adesanya.
Adesanya looked great in his last fight defeating a over the top Anderon Silva but other then that we dont really know how good he is.
Interesting to see if Gastelum will make weight. 

Yes I noticed that Gastelum is big and might encounter weight problems on time for the weigh-ins. Have you watched the video where it looks like Adesanya and Gastelum are checking in something at a UFC event and you can see Gastelum with chewing gum and looks nervous or maybe he just feel awkward at that time. And Yes I would also like to see Gastelum win in this fight.

[NavI_027]

I am more interested with the Gastelum and Adesanya fight.
Both fighters have an edge but it looks like Adesanya have a bright future with UFC.

Me too, but I'm still looking forward for our main event of course .

Regarding to that fight, I'll go for Adesanya because he is faster and more versatile fighter than Gastelum and you can really see his dominance on his every match thus making for him not impossible do it again against Gastelum. However, we can't still underestimate his opponent because he is more of a defensive player, the tables could turn once he found a proper timing.

Whenever he fights, I always think of watching Anderson Silva on his younger years. I just hope he will not be careless like Silva on his later fights in UFC where he fools around, that's where he got caught get KOd.

Silva and Adesanya got similarities but they're still way different from one another (IMO). Anyway, I hope the same thing. I love the "careless" style of Silva somehow because it is unique and it's really fun to watch counter punch KOs but this is not advisable at all because sloppy movements creates open spots in which you might get trouble.

[Haunebu]

The Hawaiian is in top form and I dont see Porier able to keep up.

I don't agree. I predict that Poirier will defeat Holloway and win the championship even though Max is in great form currently. Max wants redemption, but he will end up getting more than what he bargained for at the end of the day.

Poirier all the way in my opinion.