Bitcoin Forum
November 02, 2024, 11:05:24 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 28.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1] 2 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Have The BITCONNECT PROMOTERS Paid Their VICTIMS Back?  (Read 309 times)
CryptoEntrepreneur (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 6
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 06, 2019, 05:47:23 PM
 #1

I heard BitConnect Promoters got put into a Lawsuit and the SEC charged them. Did they pay any money to the victims or pay any fines etc?
cellard
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1372
Merit: 1252


View Profile
April 07, 2019, 04:12:28 AM
 #2

I heard BitConnect Promoters got put into a Lawsuit and the SEC charged them. Did they pay any money to the victims or pay any fines etc?

The question is, did they? I have seen that Carlos guy trolling around with youtube videos and in social media, so apparently he isn't in jail at all.

There's also many youtubers that made a killing promoting this ponzi scheme with affiliate links, with millions of views on their channels, and they still have their channels up and going.

So unless they are waiting for court, nothing happened. The victims will most likely never see their coins again, however they leased the most valuable lesson: trust only Bitcoin.
CryptoEntrepreneur (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 6
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 07, 2019, 07:10:58 AM
 #3

I put in $40,000 into a ponzi platform similar to BitConnect. Do you think I can sue my promoter or get him charged? I live in Australia.

MOST IMPORTANTLY - Is it even worth going after him you think if he was just using their referral program?
Potato Chips
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2940
Merit: 934


yesssir! 🫡


View Profile
April 11, 2019, 02:19:21 PM
Merited by Oilacris (1)
 #4

The lawsuit is still ongoing. Silver miller handles it and is still on their "Active cases" (https://www.silvermillerlaw.com/active-cases/)

And pretty sure there would be news of the outcome. For now, the latest is [feb 2019]FBI Seeking Potential Victims of BitConnect to Assist Investigation

▄▄███████▄▄
▄██████████████▄
▄██████████████████▄
▄████▀▀▀▀███▀▀▀▀█████▄
▄█████████████▄█▀████▄
███████████▄███████████
██████████▄█▀███████████
██████████▀████████████
▀█████▄█▀█████████████▀
▀████▄▄▄▄███▄▄▄▄████▀
▀██████████████████▀
▀███████████████▀
▀▀███████▀▀
.
 MΞTAWIN  THE FIRST WEB3 CASINO   
.
.. PLAY NOW ..
Oilacris
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 3192
Merit: 621



View Profile
April 11, 2019, 06:29:54 PM
 #5

I put in $40,000 into a ponzi platform similar to BitConnect. Do you think I can sue my promoter or get him charged? I live in Australia.

MOST IMPORTANTLY - Is it even worth going after him you think if he was just using their referral program?
You would surely cost up some money even more. The question is that why did you invest into a project similar to Bitconnect?
$40k is big but wont really be that much if you tend to fight out but still you can make some actions through legal means on your place.
This is the hardest part when you are really being victimized online because due to anonymity and irreversible transactions you cant really easily
sue them out incase problem arises.

boyptc
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 3178
Merit: 681


~!BTC to $100k!~


View Profile
April 11, 2019, 09:26:46 PM
 #6

I put in $40,000 into a ponzi platform similar to BitConnect. Do you think I can sue my promoter or get him charged? I live in Australia.

MOST IMPORTANTLY - Is it even worth going after him you think if he was just using their referral program?
What's this scam platform you invested? is this before bitconnect or after that? why put such amount with similar to bitconnect.

That referral would probably isn't aware too that it is a scam and only you can answer your own question, do you think it's worth of your time and money including the process?


░▄██████████████▀█▀▀████████▄░
███████████░░▀██▄░▀▄░█████████
███████████▄▄▄░▀▀▄░░█░████████
██████████▀▀░░░▄▄░░░▀░░███████
████████▀░░░░▀▀█▀░░░░░████████
███▀████▀░░░░░░░░░░░░████▀▀██
███▄████▀▀▀████░░░░░░░████▄▄██
█▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀█████░░░░░░██▀▀▀▀▀█
█▄▄▄███████▀█░░░░░░░░▀███▄▄▄█
█████▄▄▄▄███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄█████████
█████▀▀▀███████████████▀▀██▄██
░▀████████████████▄▄▄▄██████▀░
First Ever⠀⠀⠀───── Powered by: BSC Network
Leverage Driven CLMM + DLMM Model
───▸Dynamic Fee Structure   ───▸Revenue Sharing⠀
.
.       █
.  █   ███
. ███  ███   █
. ███▄▀███▄ ███
▀▀███  ███ ▀███ ▄
. ███  ▀█▀  ███▀█▀
. ███   ▀   ███
.  █        ▀█▀
.            ▀
Trade
.
. ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄    ▄▄▌‎▐▄▄
▄█▀  ▄  ▀█ ███▀▄▄▀███
█    █    ████ ▀█▄████
█    ▀▀▀▀ ████▀█▄ ████
▀█▄      ▄ ███▄▀▀▄███▀
. ▀▀█▄▄█▀   ▀▀█▌‎▐█▀▀
.▄▄▄▄▄
.████████▀▄ ▄▄▄██▀
.   ▀▀▀██████▀▀
Lend
.
.        ▄█
.     ▄███▄▄▄
.   ▀██████████
.     ▀███▀▀▀███
▄    ▄▄  ▀    ▀█
███▄▄███▄
▀█████████▄
. ▀▀▀████▀
.    █▀
Swap
.
.     ██▄▄
.   ██████
.    ████
.  ▄██▄▄▄██▄
.▄████▀ ▀█████
▄█████ ▀███████
██████▀▀ ██████
███████▄███████
.▀▀█████████▀▀
Earn
.
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
WHITELIST ME

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
magneto
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1666
Merit: 753


View Profile
April 11, 2019, 11:55:07 PM
 #7

I heard BitConnect Promoters got put into a Lawsuit and the SEC charged them. Did they pay any money to the victims or pay any fines etc?

From what I've heard in the past, there were a bunch of outspoken youtubers that were put into the class action lawsuit as defendants.

The only one that I've heard updates about though is Trevon James, and apparently he didn't even lodge a response to the lawsuit which led to a default being entered against him.

Whether or not any sum has been reimbursed or not I don't know, but i'd expect that if any funds were to be reimbursed there would be at least some sort of media coverage around it. There has been virtually no updates that is visible for months now regarding the situation. Plus, I don't even think that this is relevant to you given that you said you live in Australia your other thread.

Also, I don't think that the SEC has charged them, though there has been an investigation:

Quote
In a parallel storyline, James is a person of interest in an ongoing SEC investigation into BitConnect. For some of the remaining defendants, namely Glenn Arcaro, Ryan Hildreth, Ryan Maasen and YouTube, the case appears headed to mediation.

On August 29th a joint notice was filed advising the court that a mediator had been agreed upon. Pending approval by the court, the class plaintiff representatives and the defendants above are expected to enter into negotiation later.
coin-investor
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 3010
Merit: 603


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile
April 13, 2019, 05:34:38 AM
 #8

I heard BitConnect Promoters got put into a Lawsuit and the SEC charged them. Did they pay any money to the victims or pay any fines etc?

I am one of its early investors and have been scammed but not that big amount compared to those who invested hundreds of thousands of dollars, mine was only $200 I even participated in their bounty campaign back then because they are paying with Bitcoin, this has become a big lesson for me, if it's too good to be true, you better think twice.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
smyslov
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2030
Merit: 269


View Profile
April 15, 2019, 03:06:50 PM
 #9

The lawsuit is still ongoing. Silver miller handles it and is still on their "Active cases" (https://www.silvermillerlaw.com/active-cases/)

And pretty sure there would be news of the outcome. For now, the latest is [feb 2019]FBI Seeking Potential Victims of BitConnect to Assist Investigation

People who are victimized should come out and help the FBI prosecutes and win the case, FBI victory is a victory for a fake and ponzi scheme in the cryptocurrency, now we know that Ponzi Scheme has no place in the community I lost $200 but those who invested thousands of dollars and never gain should help prosecutors.
GreatArkansas
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2492
Merit: 1394



View Profile WWW
April 16, 2019, 10:10:57 PM
 #10

Do you think I can sue my promoter or get him charged? I live in Australia.
It's difficult to this, because what if your promoter will say he/she also have promoter? This can be a long process, because what if your promoter also a victim by another promoter?
What I saw in Bitconnect is something like MLM, you have your network and their commission is quite huge, you make a lot of downlines, you can make a lot of money also. I remember when I was a newbie in crypto before when I started on something HYIP, since I am a newbie, I don't have money to invest in, what I do is I invite people, so my commission per invite will be used to invest on the platform.

timerland
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1526
Merit: 596


View Profile
April 16, 2019, 11:17:26 PM
 #11

I've never heard of anyone pay a fine and just walk away with fraud, if they were charged with it.

But no, I don't think that anyone has paid their victims back. There are a bunch of them including Craig Grant, Trevon James etc. among others that have deleted their bitconnect content altogether, probably meaning that they are concerned at least to a degree about this ongoing lawsuit.

But some of them are still active on Youtube, posting new vids or whatnot, with no signs that they've been ordered to pay anything. I remember Trevon even continuing to shill for the scam even after they collapsed.

I think it's still a grey area given that they are only affiliates, and not running the scheme. But the lawsuit should be interesting as it unfolds, perhaps some of their assets will be seized to reimburse investors, but that would be the best case scenario and imo, quite unlikely.

Smiley
judeafante
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2254
Merit: 258



View Profile
April 17, 2019, 12:54:38 AM
 #12

I heard BitConnect Promoters got put into a Lawsuit and the SEC charged them. Did they pay any money to the victims or pay any fines etc?

Do you have a link for this, that's very interesting to see, because we'll find out if affiliate is also liable and an accessories to the case, because some of these affiliates for all we know are also victim, remember Bitconnect is implementing recruitment rewards, that means all bitconnect investors can recruit new investors.

██▄     ▄▄░
▀██▄ ▄██▀
▄▄███████████████████▄▄
▄█████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀█████▄
████▀                   ▀████
████       ▄▄█████▄▄  ▀▄   ████
████      ▄██████████▄▀    ████
████      ████████▀▀       ████
████  ▄▀ ▄██▀▀▀   ▄██      ████
████   ▀▀     ▄▄███▀       ████
████▄                   ▄████
▀█████▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄█████▀
▀▀███████████████████▀▀
.
SECONDLIVE
.
CHOOSE LIFE      CHOOSE SPACE      CHOOSE FRIENDS
.
|    Twitter    |  Telegram  |   Medium   |  YouTube  |   Discord   |    TikTok    |    GitHub    |
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
   S T A K E   L I T T L E   W I N   B I G   
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
        ▄▄███████▄▄▄
    ▄▄████████████████▄▄
   ████████████████████▄
  ███████▀▀▀█████████████
 ██████▌     ▀████████████
███████▀ ▀▀▄▄██▀▀▀█████████
██████             ▀███████
██████▄             ███████
 ███████▄▄        ▄███████
  ███████████▄▄▄▄█████████
   ▀███████████████████▀
     ▀████████████████▀▀
   ██████████████████████
dunfida
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3262
Merit: 1158



View Profile
April 17, 2019, 08:28:05 PM
 #13

I heard BitConnect Promoters got put into a Lawsuit and the SEC charged them. Did they pay any money to the victims or pay any fines etc?

Do you have a link for this, that's very interesting to see, because we'll find out if affiliate is also liable and an accessories to the case, because some of these affiliates for all we know are also victim, remember Bitconnect is implementing recruitment rewards, that means all bitconnect investors can recruit new investors.
On general sense you cant include those affiliates and tracking it out wont really be that simple.Only the main man would really need to face up the law.

Regarding on this question "Did they pay any money to the victims or pay any fines etc?" - The lawsuit is still on progress and theres still no updates or words regarding compensations.

olliecrypto
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 50
Merit: 0


View Profile WWW
April 20, 2019, 11:20:56 AM
 #14

I heard BitConnect Promoters got put into a Lawsuit and the SEC charged them. Did they pay any money to the victims or pay any fines etc?

if a decision was issued stating they had to pay fines, i'm assuming they would or already have filed for bankruptcy, so it wouldn't mean much to people that were scammed, as you can't be forced to pay if you have no resources.
klaaas
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1568
Merit: 544



View Profile
April 20, 2019, 01:58:32 PM
 #15

wonder how it will go if the refund will happen if it is the fiat price at the time or crypto refunds.

if a decision was issued stating they had to pay fines, i'm assuming they would or already have filed for bankruptcy
It wont clear him but the company but i think the same, hes broke on paper.

Shopping online and sats back as a discount! (satsback) + LightningNetwork
robelneo
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3416
Merit: 1225



View Profile WWW
April 20, 2019, 02:36:34 PM
 #16

I put in $40,000 into a ponzi platform similar to BitConnect. Do you think I can sue my promoter or get him charged? I live in Australia.

MOST IMPORTANTLY - Is it even worth going after him you think if he was just using their referral program?

Validate first his ranking in the affiliate system, some marketers are part of the team, and most referral based program had a hierarchy, where they first announce it to their leaders and they blow it to their network, some leaders are advisors of the project, so better check, you don't wanna sue a guy who just made 5% of the cut to your investment and losses double of the amount you've invested.

..cryptomus..   
  
.
lllllllllllllllllll CRYPTO
PAYMENT GATEWAY
▄█▀▀██▄░░░▄█████▄░░░▄▀████▄
██░▀▄██░░░██▄░▄██░░░██▄▀▀▀█
██░▀▄██░░░███▄███░░░███░░▄█
▀▀▀▀▀░░░░░▀▀▀▀▀░░░░░▀▀▀▀▀
▄▄▄▄▄░░░░░▄▄▄▄▄░░░░░▄▄▄▄▄
███▀▄██░░░██▀░▀██░░░██▀▀▀▀█
██▀▄███░░░██░░░██░░░█▄███░█
▀█▄▄▄█▀░░░▀██▄██▀░░░▀█▄▄▄█▀

▄█████▄░░░▄█▀▀██▄░░░▄█████▄
█▀░█░▀█░░░█░▀░▀▀█░░░██▄░▄██
█▄█▄█▄█░░░███░▀▄█░░░███▄███
▀▀▀▀▀░░░░░▀▀▀▀▀░░░░░▀▀▀▀▀
ACCEPT
CRYPTO
PAYMENTS
..GET STARTED..
buwaytress
Legendary
*
Online Online

Activity: 2982
Merit: 3687


Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!


View Profile
April 20, 2019, 06:43:55 PM
 #17

Considering how big a predecessor called OneCoin got, and how long it's taken for international jurisdictions to take on their organisers, I think we're only seeing the initial beginnings of a long, multi-year, litigation process. As others have pointed out, the guys behind them aren't in hiding yet (unlike the OneCoin bosses) so that's the clearest sign that class action has not yet resulted in proper full blown investigations.

The important thing now is for those affected to get behind the class action and be prepared to dig in.

██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
... LIVECASINO.io    Play Live Games with up to 20% cashback!...██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
Fatunad
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2296
Merit: 360


View Profile
April 20, 2019, 08:04:52 PM
 #18

Considering how big a predecessor called OneCoin got, and how long it's taken for international jurisdictions to take on their organisers, I think we're only seeing the initial beginnings of a long, multi-year, litigation process. As others have pointed out, the guys behind them aren't in hiding yet (unlike the OneCoin bosses) so that's the clearest sign that class action has not yet resulted in proper full blown investigations.

The important thing now is for those affected to get behind the class action and be prepared to dig in.
I remember that Onecoin thing which i have seen on facebook and one of those members trying out to convince me to invest which i do already spot out that this coin isnt really a crypto at all.Unlike on Bitconnect which do have blockchain unlike this Onecoin thingy but overall these both things are total fraud. Losing or running out investors money and about investigations it would be just normal
that these things would take years.
aioc
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 3080
Merit: 578



View Profile
April 22, 2019, 05:42:45 AM
 #19

I'd like this case to finish with all the victims compensated and members of Bitconnect behind bars, this is a big victory for Cryptocurrency, no one can use the blockchain technology and attach it to cryptocurrency anymore if the  victims win the case, Bitconnectcoin has huge money I'm sure they will hire top-notch lawyers to prolong the case.

dothebeats
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3766
Merit: 1354


View Profile
April 22, 2019, 03:26:27 PM
 #20

The operators of the said scam are still free roaming up to this day, and only a few of them have been nabbed by the government and law enforcement. I have few friends who have invested in the said scam who are still not reimbursed up to this day, and I don't think they would ever be reimbursed for the money they have put on in on the now-defunct company/organization/whatever, and I doubt that people who are involved on the said ponzi scheme will ever face serious jail time.

I'd like this case to finish with all the victims compensated and members of Bitconnect behind bars, this is a big victory for Cryptocurrency, no one can use the blockchain technology and attach it to cryptocurrency anymore if the  victims win the case, Bitconnectcoin has huge money I'm sure they will hire top-notch lawyers to prolong the case.

It will take years and years, just like what happened with Mt. Gox, though I don't think people who are behind the said scheme will ever get caught easily (well some of them are roaming around the interwebs and in the real world still.)

█████████████████████████████████
████████▀▀█▀▀█▀▀█▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀████████
████████▄▄█▄▄█▄▄██████████▀██████
█████░░█░░█░░█░░████████████▀████
██▀▀█▀▀█▀▀█▀▀█▀▀██████████████▀██
██▄▄█▄▄█▄▄█▄▄█▄▄█▄▄▄▄▄▄██████████
██░░█░░█░░███████████████████████
██▀▀█▀▀█▀▀███████████████████████
██▄▄█▄▄█▄▄███████████████████████
██░░█░░█░░███████████████████████
██▀▀█▀▀█▀▀██████████▄▄▄██████████
██▄▄█▄▄█▄▄███████████████████████
██░░█░░█░░███████████████████████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
 Crypto Marketing Agency
By AB de Royse

████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
WIN $50 FREE RAFFLE
Community Giveaway

██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
████████████████████████
██
██████████████████████
██████████████████▀▀████
██████████████▀▀░░░░████
██████████▀▀░░░▄▀░░▐████
██████▀▀░░░░▄█▀░░░░█████
████▄▄░░░▄██▀░░░░░▐█████
████████░█▀░░░░░░░██████
████████▌▐░░▄░░░░▐██████
█████████░▄███▄░░███████
████████████████████████
████████████████████████
████████████████████████
Pages: [1] 2 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!