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April 07, 2019, 11:07:29 AM
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics.

I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much.

Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God.

Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit.

What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. Smiley
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April 07, 2019, 11:17:41 AM
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In most religions, God wouldn't help you anything with gambling so there's no relation to it.

I thought that atheists doesn't believe in God? yours is a special case IMO.



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April 07, 2019, 11:25:38 AM
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics.

I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much.

Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God.

Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit.

What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. Smiley

Since gambling is luck based, You can only pray to God that you win the games. If you pray and then you win, your trust in God will be built more and you will pray every time before you play gamble.
If you are superstitious and think a certain color or thing can help you win, then you are totally wrong. You should not relate your winnings/losing with such things.
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April 07, 2019, 11:42:20 AM
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics.

I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much.

Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God.

Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit.

What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. Smiley

Hey gambling is luck based and for luck to be on your side you need to pray to god, however I don’t believe atheists believe in god but I’m glad to see you’re different. When we speak about your superstitions they’re normal, I have seen people sit on a particular spot, or wear a particular arm band to ensure they win. Also many people will say god won’t help you win, but then again why would god hurt his child think about that.
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April 07, 2019, 12:04:18 PM
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I do not think that gamblers should pray to God because God hates gamble. Therefore in most religion, it is forbidden to gamble. I think you should pray to the satan and do some dark ritual instead. Perhaps, you could sell your soul in return of wealth, but I do not recommend it.

PS: there is no real god, satan, and dark ritual. It is just imaginary things.

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April 07, 2019, 12:06:21 PM
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In most religions, God wouldn't help you anything with gambling so there's no relation to it.

I thought that atheists doesn't believe in God? yours is a special case IMO.
Atheist don't believe to any God maybe aside from the God of money, just like in the case of OP.
There's no one can help you in gambling aside from yourself and if you are not lucky on that day whether you're close to God or now, you will still not win. This is just kind of a mindset that every gamblers do because they want to win money and that's their belief for sure.
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April 07, 2019, 12:07:25 PM
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What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. Smiley

I believe in God so I believe that God involves in everything that I do/get. In case of gambling no matter when I win or lose, I believe that God has his plan on it. I cant say it is a God's power, but all is planned by God already.

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April 07, 2019, 12:34:26 PM
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Maybe if that person experiences downfall and said to himself "I will believe in GOD if I win this round" I think there are plenty of people who are into that kind of stuff. I just don't know if they follow through though. It's just a way of "increasing" their chances in their minds. I can't say that it works because it's just chance.

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April 07, 2019, 12:46:24 PM
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics.

I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much.

Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God.

Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit.

What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. Smiley
The story you described sounds like s typical case of people acting religiously under stress. Many start praying when they feel their life is in danger or, more generally, when they believe they can't change the situation but really want it to be changed. Surely, one could start believing if things work out in the end, but I don't think it's a good thing. I think that such matters should be considered via rational calm contemplation, regardley to the conclusion one reaches. Starting to believe in God after winning a bet seems irresponsible to me. Not to mention that many theologists believe that God has nothing to do with things like gambling, because these are matters of chance. If God intervened in the matters of chance or choice, it would diminish free will as well as break the laws of maths, and we don't want that to happen.

I think this kind of believing is closer to getting superstitious.

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April 07, 2019, 01:06:37 PM
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What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. Smiley
Total BS.If you are an atheist on the first place you wont really change that view or belief on the first place even if you do experience problems with gambling.
I do believe that sometimes you can really call to God into those times of hardship but its not really right at all that you do ask for chances on helping you to win.
Theres no such thing because luck do comes randomly.

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April 07, 2019, 01:29:15 PM
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What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. Smiley

I believe in God so I believe that God involves in everything that I do/get. In case of gambling no matter when I win or lose, I believe that God has his plan on it. I cant say it is a God's power, but all is planned by God already.
As long as we believe, it will happen and God will really help us to achieve that.
Atheist may against to God but for sure, there are times in their life that they are also praying for something good to happen to them and in gambling it usually happen. They may not totally become a supporter of God but as long as their are asking for some  guidance then I think they will become like us, one day.
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April 07, 2019, 03:14:49 PM
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics.

I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much.

Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God.

Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit.

What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. Smiley

Lol!! It's good that you started believing in GOD as addicted gamblers might need his directions sometimes! However, it has no co-relation! What you are thinking as believing in GOD, is mainly superstition and it comes from greed! It may sound harsh to you but it's true! It happens when we don't know what needs to be done to win good amount from the game of luck and take GOD as last resort!

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April 07, 2019, 03:27:51 PM
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This really depends on every person's mentality. Some belive there is a God that helps them in life, others belive that the universe is the one that controls their lives while there are people that are sceptical and don't belive in any of this. There are so many different opinions on God's existence and the way he could help improve our lives and I think people blindly belive in God only because they are looking for a way to stop gambling, thinking he is going to help them win the jackpot.
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April 07, 2019, 03:50:42 PM
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In most religions, God wouldn't help you anything with gambling so there's no relation to it.

Well maybe most religions believe that God dont interferes in gambling since thats a sin but i know some Christian’s that pray and ask for gods grace whenever they go to gamble lol

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April 07, 2019, 04:10:27 PM
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I don't know dude. Been gambling for a while and I must say I'm a superstitious person, so I don't include God in the equation though. Maybe I just wear the wrong shirt that day or that lady luck is not on my side. Grin









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April 07, 2019, 04:17:45 PM
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The success in gambling is always miracle in every time when we are getting the winning in gambling so we can definitely say there is something in this world to be performing our life with proper guidance so I trust it every time when I was doing the gambling investment.

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April 07, 2019, 04:52:30 PM
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In most religions, God wouldn't help you anything with gambling so there's no relation to it.

I thought that atheists doesn't believe in God? yours is a special case IMO.
Atheist don't believe to any God maybe aside from the God of money, just like in the case of OP.
There's no one can help you in gambling aside from yourself and if you are not lucky on that day whether you're close to God or now, you will still not win. This is just kind of a mindset that every gamblers do because they want to win money and that's their belief for sure.
It shoud be god of money, for most gamblers, we can think of crazy things and reasons just to make ourselves better with that.

In most religions, God wouldn't help you anything with gambling so there's no relation to it.

Well maybe most religions believe that God dont interferes in gambling since thats a sin but i know some Christian’s that pray and ask for gods grace whenever they go to gamble lol
I won't have an argument regarding that but it's the reality.

Maybe he just called himself an atheist but the truth is he don’t even know whats an atheist must be,because if you are a true nonbelievers of God these things won’t cross your mind
or it has fixed his mind because he wanted to win badly.



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April 07, 2019, 05:17:05 PM
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lol, even I am a religious person but I have never involved God in every bet I made even though it was money and a big losses in gambling. so, I'm just surprised by you who is an atheist who doesn't believe in God but when you gamble you pray to God. If that is the case, then the possibility that the experience will turn an atheist into a theist, but that doesn't guarantee and I'm not too sure just because gambling atheist can turn into theist.

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April 07, 2019, 05:21:14 PM
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics.

I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much.

Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God.

Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit.

What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. Smiley
I do believe that God is in Everything and because of this believe I do think that God influence whatever happens to us.  If you are winning in gambling and it is through luck I think God favored you and if you are losing you should still believed that God want you to quite gambling and focus on another thing.
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April 07, 2019, 05:46:01 PM
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I don't glorify everything you do like the color of clothes and so on, I believe that God has a way for everyone, whatever religious problems I don't want to know because it is personal belief without having to be published here and I don't know what religion you believe and if you have given the statement that you are an atheist is one that is very wrong because you do not have a position, I personally will never concern the religion with gambling because if you are really optimistic and think then victory will always come naturally.
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