Another assault for wearing MAGA hat, retaliates with a sword #magasamurai

[TECSHARE]

What have I been saying over and over people? It has become acceptable practice for deranged leftists to attack people for wearing a MAGA hat, and I said it was only a matter of time before there is serious retaliation resulting in bloodshed. How much longer will this kind of behavior be tolerated before some one is shot? What do you think the reaction in retaliation will be after that?

I can already hear the cries now "oh but he just knocked off his hat!". The fact is if some one on the street jumps at you and assaults you, you first of all do not know their intent, nor do you know how far they are willing to go with that violent act. Even if they were just knocking his hat off it is STILL ASSAULT, and no one has a right to do this to others regardless of how upset they are. When you are assaulting people on the street, you do not then get to cry about the level of force used.

I do not condone violence, but particularly in this case, the man attempted to first run but was then chased, and then eventually turned to fight off his attackers using a sword. As expected everyone is casting the man defending himself as the perpetrator and the attacker as the "victim". I am sure nothing bad will result of this continuation of denial of reality...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-09/he-was-just-gushing-blood-man-maga-hat-retaliates-against-hat-flipper-using-samurai

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[unocash]

I never know whether to believe such stories
anyone can wear a maga hat and put the blame on Trump supporters

[mOgliE]

I do not condone violence, but particularly in this case, the man attempted to first run but was then chased, and then eventually turned to fight off his attackers using a sword. As expected everyone is casting the man defending himself as the perpetrator and the attacker as the "victim". I am sure nothing bad will result of this continuation of denial of reality...

Someone "assaults" a stranger in the street by knocking off his hat.

The "assaulted" person draws a samurai sword and cut the hand of the "assaulter".

Seems pretty obvious who's at fault there.


Remove the MAGA hat of the balance. If someone is pushing you around, do you have the right to draw a motherfucking sword and cut their hand?

If yes your country is very strange and I wouldn't dare visit it.

[KonstantinosM]

The guy with the sword needs to see some jail time, he was clearly in the wrong.

Even if the side you put forward, which is a false narrative is to be taken as fact, which it shouldn't, if someone knocks another persons hat off, that doesn't justify the use of lethal force, which a cut with a sword definitely is.

The fact is that MAGA hat man, was a dangerous weirdo who probably came in with a sword hidden up his jacket looking for trouble, he was probably yelling homophobic slurs at people and some idiot fell for the trap.

That's how I see it without getting all the facts.


This is a false narrative. I'm glad that the sword guy at least didn't have a gun.

edit: Grammatical correction

[DireWolfM14]

I do not condone violence, but particularly in this case, the man attempted to first run but was then chased, and then eventually turned to fight off his attackers using a sword.

The article you linked to claims the alleged "assailant" slashed at the guy who knocked his hat off.  Carrying a knife with a blade longer than 3" in San Francisco is a violation, which is probably why this guy is getting treated the way he is.  But obviously he was instigating the situation by wearing his assault hat, so there's that.

My kids came to pick me up from SFO the other night, so we stopped in the Mission for burritos.  I got, not one, but three dirty looks for wearing a woodland camo hat.  The only reason those dirty looks didn't turn into dirty words, chaffed knuckles, and bloody noses is because the woodland camo hat in question is adorned with a SF 49ers logo.

For such peace-loving, hippy-filled, progressive city it sure is full of intolerant bigots.

[yesiam6]

What have I been saying over and over people? It has become acceptable practice for deranged leftists to attack people for wearing a MAGA hat, and I said it was only a matter of time before there is serious retaliation resulting in bloodshed. How much longer will this kind of behavior be tolerated before some one is shot? What do you think the reaction in retaliation will be after that?

I can already hear the cries now "oh but he just knocked off his hat!". The fact is if some one on the street jumps at you and assaults you, you first of all do not know their intent, nor do you know how far they are willing to go with that violent act. Even if they were just knocking his hat off it is STILL ASSAULT, and no one has a right to do this to others regardless of how upset they are. When you are assaulting people on the street, you do not then get to cry about the level of force used.

I do not condone violence, but particularly in this case, the man attempted to first run but was then chased, and then eventually turned to fight off his attackers using a sword. As expected everyone is casting the man defending himself as the perpetrator and the attacker as the "victim". I am sure nothing bad will result of this continuation of denial of reality...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-09/he-was-just-gushing-blood-man-maga-hat-retaliates-against-hat-flipper-using-samurai

He "just" flipped his hat off that's assault i guess i don't really know much about the american law, but retaliating with a samurai sword sounds flipping insane
why was he carrying a katana in the first place ?

[TECSHARE]

I do not condone violence, but particularly in this case, the man attempted to first run but was then chased, and then eventually turned to fight off his attackers using a sword. As expected everyone is casting the man defending himself as the perpetrator and the attacker as the "victim". I am sure nothing bad will result of this continuation of denial of reality...

Someone "assaults" a stranger in the street by knocking off his hat.

The "assaulted" person draws a samurai sword and cut the hand of the "assaulter".

Seems pretty obvious who's at fault there.


Remove the MAGA hat of the balance. If someone is pushing you around, do you have the right to draw a motherfucking sword and cut their hand?

If yes your country is very strange and I wouldn't dare visit it.

You conveniently skipped over the part where he tried to flee and they chased him before he turned to defend himself. If some one is physically attacking some one they have a right to defend themselves, yes. I am glad you don't care to visit, we are already have too many brain dead commies born and raised here thanks.

He "just" flipped his hat off that's assault i guess i don't really know much about the american law, but retaliating with a samurai sword sounds flipping insane
why was he carrying a katana in the first place ?

Again, you conveniently skipped the part where he tried to flee but was chased down before he then decided to fight back. He was probably armed because of the almost daily occurrence of people being physically assaulted and harassed simply because they chose to wear a MAGA hat. Swords are not legal in California as far as I know, but that is besides the point. He was attacked and he defended himself, which other than the fact that he did so with a contraband sword was completely legal.  

The guy with the sword needs to see some jail time, he was clearly in the wrong.

Even if the side you put forward, which is a false narrative is to be taken as fact, which it shouldn't, if someone knocks another persons hat off, that doesn't justify the use of lethal force, which a cut with a sword definitely is.

The fact is that MAGA hat man, was a dangerous weirdo who probably came in with a sword hidden up his jacket looking for trouble, he was probably yelling homophobic slurs at people and some idiot fell for the trap.

That's how I see it without getting all the facts.


This is a false narrative. I'm glad that the sword guy at least didn't have a gun.

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As the person being attacked, how do you know all they want to do is knock off his hat? At what point in an assault does it become justifiable to defend yourself? They did chase him down after all. What is some one to expect after being chased down by multiple people, that they only want to talk? He may be a weirdo and may have been shouting homophobic slurs, but HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO DO SO LEGALLY. Again, the sword was not legal to posses AFAIK by California law, but that is irrelevant. If he is charged with anything it should be for having the sword, not using it to defend himself from an attack.

[mOgliE]

You conveniently skipped over the part where he tried to flee and they chased him before he turned to defend himself. If some one is physically attacking some one they have a right to defend themselves, yes. I am glad you don't care to visit, we are already have too many brain dead commies born and raised here thanks.

You mean the part where they "pursued him" without harming him in any way?

Oh I'm very sorry I skipped this part. It changes everything. So if you follow me I have the right to cut your hand? Great justice idea you have.

You're crazy. Completely crazy.

The guy haven't been attacked stop saying that, they haven't hit him, they have merely... Annoyed him. Attack means use of physical aggression, here they did nothing more but... Harassed him. It happens every day at every bar you go.

You don't defend yourself from "being chased". The guy insulted them then they harass him, if you want to legalize the use of deadly weapon here, you're going to get a crazy city.

Crazy asshole.

[TECSHARE]

You conveniently skipped over the part where he tried to flee and they chased him before he turned to defend himself. If some one is physically attacking some one they have a right to defend themselves, yes. I am glad you don't care to visit, we are already have too many brain dead commies born and raised here thanks.

You mean the part where they "pursued him" without harming him in any way?

Oh I'm very sorry I skipped this part. It changes everything. So if you follow me I have the right to cut your hand? Great justice idea you have.

You're crazy. Completely crazy.

The guy haven't been attacked stop saying that, they haven't hit him, they have merely... Annoyed him. Attack means use of physical aggression, here they did nothing more but... Harassed him. It happens every day at every bar you go.

You don't defend yourself from "being chased". The guy insulted them then they harass him, if you want to legalize the use of deadly weapon here, you're going to get a crazy city.

Crazy asshole.

What is some one on the street who was just assaulted by one or more people he does not know and then chased supposed to assume, that they just wanted to have a little chat with him? He was assaulted, he tried to get away from the assailant(s), they chased him. Self defense is perfectly justified. He was in fact physically assaulted, hitting someones head to knock of his hat is assault, this is where the criminal activity began. This is an illegal form of physical aggression unless you are insinuating they yelled loud enough to make his hat fly off. I have no problem with him being charged with having the sword, but by no means should he be charged for defending himself from assault.

[mOgliE]

What is some one on the street who was just assaulted by one or more people he does not know and then chased supposed to assume, that they just wanted to have a little chat with him? He was assaulted, he tried to get away from the assailant(s), they chased him. Self defense is perfectly justified. He was in fact physically assaulted, hitting someones head to knock of his hat is assault, this is where the criminal activity began. This is an illegal form of physical aggression unless you are insinuating they yelled loud enough to make his hat fly off. I have no problem with him being charged with having the sword, but by no means should he be charged for defending himself from assault.

Following your explanation, I just have to insult you and your mother and wife strong and long enough to make you angry enough so you push me then I can cut your hand with a sword.

If you don't see a problem here, you're the problem.

[TECSHARE]

What is some one on the street who was just assaulted by one or more people he does not know and then chased supposed to assume, that they just wanted to have a little chat with him? He was assaulted, he tried to get away from the assailant(s), they chased him. Self defense is perfectly justified. He was in fact physically assaulted, hitting someones head to knock of his hat is assault, this is where the criminal activity began. This is an illegal form of physical aggression unless you are insinuating they yelled loud enough to make his hat fly off. I have no problem with him being charged with having the sword, but by no means should he be charged for defending himself from assault.

Following your explanation, I just have to insult you and your mother and wife strong and long enough to make you angry enough so you push me then I can cut your hand with a sword.

If you don't see a problem here, you're the problem.

Words are not physical assault. Hitting some one is. Try again fat man.

[mOgliE]

What is some one on the street who was just assaulted by one or more people he does not know and then chased supposed to assume, that they just wanted to have a little chat with him? He was assaulted, he tried to get away from the assailant(s), they chased him. Self defense is perfectly justified. He was in fact physically assaulted, hitting someones head to knock of his hat is assault, this is where the criminal activity began. This is an illegal form of physical aggression unless you are insinuating they yelled loud enough to make his hat fly off. I have no problem with him being charged with having the sword, but by no means should he be charged for defending himself from assault.

Following your explanation, I just have to insult you and your mother and wife strong and long enough to make you angry enough so you push me then I can cut your hand with a sword.

If you don't see a problem here, you're the problem.

Words are not physical assault. Hitting some one is. Try again fat man.

Can you read?

I said that following your explanations, I just have to provoke you into pushing me so I have the right to kill you. Or mutilate you at least.

If someone start insulting me and my loved ones in front of me there is a 80% chance I will assault him physically. Everyone with a grain of dignity would do that.

So in your world, I could kill ANYONE just by insulting them enough so they push me around, then I would be justified to cut their limbs of.

You're really a dangerous person!

[TECSHARE]

What is some one on the street who was just assaulted by one or more people he does not know and then chased supposed to assume, that they just wanted to have a little chat with him? He was assaulted, he tried to get away from the assailant(s), they chased him. Self defense is perfectly justified. He was in fact physically assaulted, hitting someones head to knock of his hat is assault, this is where the criminal activity began. This is an illegal form of physical aggression unless you are insinuating they yelled loud enough to make his hat fly off. I have no problem with him being charged with having the sword, but by no means should he be charged for defending himself from assault.

Following your explanation, I just have to insult you and your mother and wife strong and long enough to make you angry enough so you push me then I can cut your hand with a sword.

If you don't see a problem here, you're the problem.

Words are not physical assault. Hitting some one is. Try again fat man.

Can you read?

I said that following your explanations, I just have to provoke you into pushing me so I have the right to kill you. Or mutilate you at least.

If someone start insulting me and my loved ones in front of me there is a 80% chance I will assault him physically. Everyone with a grain of dignity would do that.

So in your world, I could kill ANYONE just by insulting them enough so they push me around, then I would be justified to cut their limbs of.

You're really a dangerous person!

First of all no one was killed. Second of all, if some one can not control themselves and assaults another person, use of force is ENTIRELY JUSTIFIED under the law in the United States, but probably not in your country where you are a subject without the right to self defense.

[poptok1]

He "just" flipped his hat off that's assault i guess i don't really know much about the american law, but retaliating with a samurai sword sounds flipping insane
why was he carrying a katana in the first place ?

Maybe he was a spiritual samurai, following the bushido codex? It's a form of religion, ya know? Complicated believe system that obliges believers to carry a sword. He was just fulfilling he's religious rights. Or maybe he just bought it, in the souvenir store?
Think about what kind of moron one have to be, to attack a man with a freaking katana... that's what's really insane here.

   

[mOgliE]

First of all no one was killed. Second of all, if some one can not control themselves and assaults another person, use of force is ENTIRELY JUSTIFIED under the law in the United States, but probably not in your country where you are a subject without the right to self defense.

Thank you for proving you're a crazy asshole.

[TECSHARE]

First of all no one was killed. Second of all, if some one can not control themselves and assaults another person, use of force is ENTIRELY JUSTIFIED under the law in the United States, but probably not in your country where you are a subject without the right to self defense.

Thank you for proving you're a crazy asshole.

Thank you for providing even more evidence you don't have two brain cells to rub together to form a cogent reply. I can't blame you though, you would probably stop breathing if you stopped to think that long. Better safe than sorry.

[mOgliE]

Thank you for providing even more evidence you don't have two brain cells to rub together to form a cogent reply. I can't blame you though, you would probably stop breathing if you stopped to think that long.

Dude you're advocating the right for someone to MUTILATE someone else if they dare pushing you. What do you want? You're even worse than Islamist fundamentalist. Even Sharia law doesn't allow that.

[TECSHARE]

Thank you for providing even more evidence you don't have two brain cells to rub together to form a cogent reply. I can't blame you though, you would probably stop breathing if you stopped to think that long.

Dude you're advocating the right for someone to MUTILATE someone else if they dare pushing you. What do you want? You're even worse than Islamist fundamentalist. Even Sharia law doesn't allow that.

I am not advocating for anything. I am stating the FACT that in The United States of America, if some one physically assaults you, you have the CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to use force against them to stop the assault. He was assaulted, he attempted to flea, he was chased. What do you want him to do just stand there and let these people beat him? Would they stop at just beating on him or would they go further? He had no way of knowing. You don't get to assault people then cry when they defend themselves, sorry.

[Astargath]

Thank you for providing even more evidence you don't have two brain cells to rub together to form a cogent reply. I can't blame you though, you would probably stop breathing if you stopped to think that long.

Dude you're advocating the right for someone to MUTILATE someone else if they dare pushing you. What do you want? You're even worse than Islamist fundamentalist. Even Sharia law doesn't allow that.

I am not advocating for anything. I am stating the FACT that in The United States of America, if some one physically assaults you, you have the CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to use force against them to stop the assault. He was assaulted, he attempted to flea, he was chased. What do you want him to do just stand there and let these people beat him? Would they stop at just beating on him or would they go further? He had no way of knowing. You don't get to assault people then cry when they defend themselves, sorry.

It's against the law to have a sword like that with you though.

[TECSHARE]

The polarization has reached to such level that a person is chased for practising his right to free speech and just because he was chased he decided to effing cut off his hand!

Assaulted, then chased.

It's against the law to have a sword like that with you though.

I have no problem with him being charged with having the sword, but by no means should he be charged for defending himself from assault.

Also, he is not the perpetrator here regardless of his possession of contraband.