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April 10, 2019, 11:17:25 PM
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If you can play in the USA isn't the bitcoin gambling site unfair since every single "big" "good" "fair" casinos do not let USA players play?
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April 10, 2019, 11:52:58 PM
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If you can play in the USA isn't the bitcoin gambling site unfair since every single "big" "good" "fair" casinos do not let USA players play?

Truly not fair...

Play truly decentralized games without operator, KYC and other bs and be happy.

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sounds like you are shilling

after looking at that site, it doesnt look like it is probably fair or there is no way to check that it is
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April 11, 2019, 02:08:46 AM
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If you can play in the USA isn't the bitcoin gambling site unfair since every single "big" "good" "fair" casinos do not let USA players play?

Try using Casino Dapps.

House-edge is kinda an issue but some of them provide their services to USA.

No KYC when you won a big amount.
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April 11, 2019, 02:45:56 AM
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If you can play in the USA isn't the bitcoin gambling site unfair since every single "big" "good" "fair" casinos do not let USA players play?

It's not the casinos to decide so I won't say casinos are being unfair! It's the local legislative structure due to which US online casinos are not allowing US players.  So it's no unfairness from the casino's part! I believe every US online casinos will be happy to welcone US players because they are considered as the "big pocket' customers!

Also in the era of VPN, who really cares till the time online casinos don't ask for KYC!

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April 11, 2019, 03:08:55 AM
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If you can play in the USA isn't the bitcoin gambling site unfair since every single "big" "good" "fair" casinos do not let USA players play?

It's not the casinos to decide so I won't say casinos are being unfair! It's the local legislative structure due to which US online casinos are not allowing US players.  So it's no unfairness from the casino's part! I believe every US online casinos will be happy to welcone US players because they are considered as the "big pocket' customers!

Also in the era of VPN, who really cares till the time online casinos don't ask for KYC!

Exactly, so every online bitcoin casino that lets USA players play, is breaking the law, so if they are okay with breaking that law, why wouldn't that not be "fair" or pay out jackpots, etc.
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April 11, 2019, 04:35:00 AM
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Exactly, so every online bitcoin casino that lets USA players play, is breaking the law, so if they are okay with breaking that law
Not sure about that since they already took necessary steps to prevent US IP address and under 18 years old to enter. By using VPN and clicking "I am 18 yo" button, I think they are free from legal problems.

It would help if you tried casino dApps as @EastSound said.

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April 11, 2019, 04:54:22 AM
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If you can play in the USA isn't the bitcoin gambling site unfair since every single "big" "good" "fair" casinos do not let USA players play?

No, they are fair in my opinion because of not all bitcoin gambling sites prohibited USA player to gamble. People who lived in the USA could still search the other bitcoin gambling so they can play with the other gambler. It doesn't matter if they cannot play in one or two sites because there are many another website who will allow them.

Or maybe it's because the regulations in the USA that don't allow people to play gambling. I guess that there will be no problem for people who live in the USA because they can solve that thing so they could still play gambling.
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April 11, 2019, 05:18:29 AM
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If you can play in the USA isn't the bitcoin gambling site unfair since every single "big" "good" "fair" casinos do not let USA players play?
I don't think that it is appropriate to say that it is unfair to other people if you can play in bitcoin gambling in USA. I think it's just a technique for you to play. I'm not saying I'm doing this since I'm not a US citizen and nothing is prohibiting me in playing bitcoin casino but you can use VPNs so that you can play.
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April 11, 2019, 05:46:34 AM
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Everyone that says to use a VPN doesn't realize using a VPN voids the TOS of every gaming site that blocks USA residents. They do not have to process your withdrawal if you are caugyt?. That is not worth the risk
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April 11, 2019, 06:01:19 AM
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Everyone that says to use a VPN doesn't realize using a VPN voids the TOS of every gaming site that blocks USA residents. They do not have to process your withdrawal if you are caugyt?. That is not worth the risk

You can be always caught if you use a VPN to access a site, website administrators keep logs of all the ip addresses that access the site.

Why do you want to play in an US casino when there are thousand others without any limitation in the crypto world ?
Casinos are no different from each other, each one has a fixed house edge and for the provably fair there are discussions going on from a long time here, personally I believe that many are provably fair casinos.

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April 11, 2019, 06:03:21 AM
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Everyone that says to use a VPN doesn't realize using a VPN voids the TOS of every gaming site that blocks USA residents. They do not have to process your withdrawal if you are caugyt?. That is not worth the risk
So that's the risk of it. I don't know I'm sorry I haven't done that, I just think that as a solution to your problem. If so, then it's really unfair to US residents because they can't play bitcoin casinos. Is bitcoin casino banned in US? Or is there any floating reason for this?
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April 11, 2019, 06:22:34 AM
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VPN can be use to bypass restriction, but there's also a risk on that.
It's only the IP that you bypass but in reality you are not allowed to gamble.
I'm just lucky I am not from US and I can gamble in majority of the crypto sites, that makes it more satisfying to me since
with the advent of crypto and the big competition in created in the market, I can gamble anytime at any sites I like.

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April 11, 2019, 06:47:14 AM
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Exactly, so every online bitcoin casino that lets USA players play, is breaking the law, so if they are okay with breaking that law, why wouldn't that not be "fair" or pay out jackpots, etc.

The casino is not breaking the law its the player who is breaking their ToS. If a player uses a VPN that player can bypass the casinos IP restriction and casino operator wouldn't know that. Don't blame the casino, bitcoin gamblers know a lot of steps to bypass any restriction that a casino gave them.
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April 11, 2019, 06:52:09 AM
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Everyone that says to use a VPN doesn't realize using a VPN voids the TOS of every gaming site that blocks USA residents. They do not have to process your withdrawal if you are caugyt?. That is not worth the risk
So that's the risk of it. I don't know I'm sorry I haven't done that, I just think that as a solution to your problem. If so, then it's really unfair to US residents because they can't play bitcoin casinos. Is bitcoin casino banned in US? Or is there any floating reason for this?
No, it isn't what you think. Online crypto casinos or any gambling sites are banned in the US due to its jurisdiction. However, if you're American and not living in US you can technically use the online casinos without worrying that you will be caught. Likewise, afaik, there's still no specific law that make bitcoin gambling illegal, they just simply banned it.

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April 11, 2019, 07:05:04 AM
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I don't see why would that be unfair at least to people. It's probably unfair for governments who are trying to stop people from gambling but that's a different discussion. Big and trusted casinos don't accept USA users because they don't want to get into trouble if anything happens, while for new casinos this is not a problem because if something happens and their casino gets closed they don't lose much.
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April 11, 2019, 07:32:08 AM
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Everyone that says to use a VPN doesn't realize using a VPN voids the TOS of every gaming site that blocks USA residents. They do not have to process your withdrawal if you are caugyt?. That is not worth the risk
So that's the risk of it. I don't know I'm sorry I haven't done that, I just think that as a solution to your problem. If so, then it's really unfair to US residents because they can't play bitcoin casinos. Is bitcoin casino banned in US? Or is there any floating reason for this?
No, it isn't what you think. Online crypto casinos or any gambling sites are banned in the US due to its jurisdiction. However, if you're American and not living in US you can technically use the online casinos without worrying that you will be caught. Likewise, afaik, there's still no specific law that make bitcoin gambling illegal, they just simply banned it.

Their are online crypto casinos which are allowing US citizens by following the rules and regulations stated by US Laws, so if any US citizens want to play they have to follow all rules and then play if not when withdrawal is asked they will get all problems. This has been done for the benefit of the US Citizens so that they can be saved by the gambling addiction so that they dont spoil their life and surrounding them life also.
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April 11, 2019, 09:53:13 AM
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I think people can solve the problem if their country doesn't allow them to play gambling. People will search the way to access the gambling site, and they will find that using a VPN can solve that.
Maybe the USA governments have good things for their people, and they don't want to see people will become addicted to gambling. But with internet on everywhere, people of the USA could still play gambling because if they choose to play online gambling, then that will easy for them to visit on every gambling site with VPN.
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April 11, 2019, 11:09:11 AM
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Everyone that says to use a VPN doesn't realize using a VPN voids the TOS of every gaming site that blocks USA residents. They do not have to process your withdrawal if you are caugyt?. That is not worth the risk
When a certain country been blocked then if you do really eager on playing gambling online then you would really be forced on using it up.You know the risk on the first place.So, once caught then expect on what would possible happen.

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April 11, 2019, 11:37:59 AM
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From the time that the casino tells you that US citizens are not allowed to play, it is up to the gambler if he gambles or not.
Gamblers can use VPN to do so or they can also gamble via DApps that do not require KYC, thus gamblers cannot be identified if they are from the US or not.
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April 11, 2019, 12:04:11 PM
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Everyone that says to use a VPN doesn't realize using a VPN voids the TOS of every gaming site that blocks USA residents. They do not have to process your withdrawal if you are caugyt?. That is not worth the risk
Yeah, it will be more risky if you are caught in action while your big money was already place on the casinos. I don't know why there's a big restriction on so many gambling sites for the US Citizen but you can still find a good site where you can play well. Not sure if bitvest, bustadice, 777 are free for US citizen you can just try and try until you found a good gambling site where you can play and have fun.
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