Craig Wright Threatens Lawsuit Against Bitcoiner

[pushups44]

Craig Wright has sent a legal letter to Hodlonaut, the creator of the Lightning Torch, accusing him of libel for referring to Wright as a "fraud."

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/craig-wright-threatens-libel-suit-letter-bitcoiner-demands-apology/

As a public figure, this lawsuit would be extraordinarily difficult to win in the United States, but it could be filed in the UK, where libel cases are somewhat easier to win, though still difficult.

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[pooya87]

this sounds more like the social media drama that we keep seeing every day. otherwise Craig Wright IS a scammer so calling him "fraud" is only stating the facts. everyone already knows it, he knows it, and the court will also probably know it.
and since the evidence of his fraud is easily to find and prove he doesn't really have much of a case here.

[Kakmakr]

Well, I think it is time that something like this is taken to court. Let them finally get to the facts of this whole matter and show that Craig Wright lied about the claims that he made that he is Satoshi Nakamoto.

I think a lot of people will even donate to Hodlonaut's legal cost to help to expose this snake oil salesman for what he is. Craig Wright will do anything to stay in the limelight, because he thrives on attention. 

Bring it on!

[omone1]

But Craig Wright can't win the case if he eventually hits the court, because he has been masquerading as the real Satoshi Nakamoto. Let him come and prove to us all how he managed to creating the bitcoin or he risked going to jail for misleading the public about such a important issue.

[Bitinity]

So the drama continues...Craig Wright still fighting for his claim as the real Satoshi. It is interesting to see how the end of all this drama, will he be declared as the real Satoshi or he will get the opposite.

[pushups44]

So the drama continues...Craig Wright still fighting for his claim as the real Satoshi. It is interesting to see how the end of all this drama, will he be declared as the real Satoshi or he will get the opposite.

OK, after a quick look at the differences between U.S. and UK laws on defamation, I can see why Craig Wright is threatening to file in the UK. In the U.S., the burden of proof is on the plaintiff to prove he was defamed, whereas in the UK the burden of proof is on the defendant to prove his case. Thus, perhaps Wright will simply make the defendant prove he's not Satoshi - basically proving a negative - but it still may open him up to a lot of negative publicity as the defendant tries to make his case.

Source: https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/03/21/394273902/on-libel-and-the-law-u-s-and-u-k-go-separate-ways

[Ailmand]

I keep seeing Craig Wright's name all over the place. He actually claims he is satoshi and failed to prove it. So, I think it's normal for him to be criticized by a lot of people. He just wanted more exposure, and I think he is butt hurt that is why he filed a lawsuit. If he is going to act that way, why not collect all the names that is bad-mouthing him all over the internet and file a lawsuit against them.

[alisafidel58]

Craig Wright is really out of his mind right now, if he decided to file it up in the US he won't win. Everybody knows that he is a fraud I think that even in the UK he will have a hard time winning his case, just look all the "proof" that he has claiming to be Satoshi.

[snakey]

That was a cheap publicity stunt from craig. He wanna be called himself as Satoshi and now he is threatening bitcoiners to call him a fraud, funny isnt it.
He is none other than a known bitcoin faliure who is just as hurry to make profit as the trade declines.

[figmentofmyass]

Craig Wright has sent a legal letter to Hodlonaut, the creator of the Lightning Torch, accusing him of libel for referring to Wright as a "fraud."

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/craig-wright-threatens-libel-suit-letter-bitcoiner-demands-apology/

As a public figure, this lawsuit would be extraordinarily difficult to win in the United States, but it could be filed in the UK, where libel cases are somewhat easier to win, though still difficult.

this seems particularly hard to win since wright has already been proven to be a fraud! eg backdating a PGP key and claiming it was satoshis or forging a signature to claim he held early satoshi keys.

what does this clown expect to gain from this?

[Johnzky]

That might be taking it a little bit too far.. That's the perfect definition of butthurt.

Indeed atleast Craig seems to accept being hurtful by this issue 😂


But even if the case pursued and Craig wins still this is a bailable suit and needs only small amount

That was a cheap publicity stunt from craig. He wanna be called himself as Satoshi and now he is threatening bitcoiners to call him a fraud, funny isnt it.
He is none other than a known bitcoin faliure who is just as hurry to make profit as the trade declines.

Exactly mate this will only prove that he is not worthy to be known as satoshi in which he was claiming

[Baofeng]

But CZ strikes back: https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1116563034476957699



CZ threatened to de-list Bitcoin SV from Binance itself if CW continue his pursue of doxing Hodlonaut. Everyone should change their twitter handle to Hodlonaut now.  .

[MiguelCryptoss]

Craig Wright has been know for his threat and not sure that he's serious at this particular time. Let remember that, the same Craig Wright was several times be accused of fraud, so, this is not the very first time he's be call such. Let him start the drama again because it has been long for his act.

[Jating]

Craig Wright just make it worst for himself. He just literally shooting his own foot here. I don't know if he can get support from his lawsuit.

Every crypto enthusiast really knows that he is not Satoshi, and it has been proven many times that he can't prove that he is Satoshi. Does he have anything to protect? he has been unmasked already years ago so this case will be just thrown out in the bin again.

And look, CZ entered the picture now, should he file a libel case against Binance CEO as well?

[talkbitcoin]

since when does stating the obvious facts are leading to a lawsuit? it is like suing someone for saying the sky is blue.

what does this clown expect to gain from this?

publicity! what else? he is never going to go ahead with the lawsuit. it is just something he is trying to make himself look "not fraud" and continue his scam for a little bit longer.

[stompix]

But CZ strikes back: https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1116563034476957699

CZ threatened to de-list Bitcoin SV from Binance itself if CW continue his pursue of doxing Hodlonaut. Everyone should change their twitter handle to Hodlonaut now.  .

Hmm, I don't like this at all.
Of course, CW is a fraud and probably he will not get anywhere with his lawsuit but were opening Pandora's box here.

Are we going to use exchanges to threaten people?
How the *** is this different from Paypal stopping donations to Wikileaks?

OK, after a quick look at the differences between U.S. and UK laws on defamation, I can see why Craig Wright is threatening to file in the UK. In the U.S., the burden of proof is on the plaintiff to prove he was defamed, whereas in the UK the burden of proof is on the defendant to prove his case. Thus, perhaps Wright will simply make the defendant prove he's not Satoshi - basically proving a negative - but it still may open him up to a lot of negative publicity as the defendant tries to make his case.

Source: https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/03/21/394273902/on-libel-and-the-law-u-s-and-u-k-go-separate-ways

Yeah, that's the problem with this lawsuit in the UK.
And your assumption is unfortunately correct, he will have to prove he is not Satoshi without demanding evidence from CW like a signed message.

It's like me knowing you hit my car but I have no footage, just that I saw you, BUT I must prove this without demanding that police check your car. So unless he finds proof somebody else is Satoshi he won't be able to sustain the fraud accusation.

[pushups44]

But CZ strikes back: https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1116563034476957699

CZ threatened to de-list Bitcoin SV from Binance itself if CW continue his pursue of doxing Hodlonaut. Everyone should change their twitter handle to Hodlonaut now.  .

Hmm, I don't like this at all.
Of course, CW is a fraud and probably he will not get anywhere with his lawsuit but were opening Pandora's box here.

Are we going to use exchanges to threaten people?
How the *** is this different from Paypal stopping donations to Wikileaks?

OK, after a quick look at the differences between U.S. and UK laws on defamation, I can see why Craig Wright is threatening to file in the UK. In the U.S., the burden of proof is on the plaintiff to prove he was defamed, whereas in the UK the burden of proof is on the defendant to prove his case. Thus, perhaps Wright will simply make the defendant prove he's not Satoshi - basically proving a negative - but it still may open him up to a lot of negative publicity as the defendant tries to make his case.

Source: https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/03/21/394273902/on-libel-and-the-law-u-s-and-u-k-go-separate-ways

Yeah, that's the problem with this lawsuit in the UK.
And your assumption is unfortunately correct, he will have to prove he is not Satoshi without demanding evidence from CW like a signed message.

It's like me knowing you hit my car but I have no footage, just that I saw you, BUT I must prove this without demanding that police check your car. So unless he finds proof somebody else is Satoshi he won't be able to sustain the fraud accusation.

I think it's a mistake to assume everything has to be decentralized. Bitcoin itself is decentralized, and Binance is known to be a centralized exchange with people behind it. If CZ wants to delist Faketoshi, so be it. People can collect that shitcoin somewhere else. Not everything has to be decentralized.

[dothebeats]

Just proves CSW isn't really the man behind bitcoin because he's easily offended by remarks about him being fraud. If I was the real Satoshi and I was being remarked as such, I'll just laugh it off and do nothing about it, considering that I know to myself that I am the real deal behind bitcoin. Also, this proves that CSW can't take the heat of what he had caused, leading to an eventual spur of negative events toward his way. Never been amazed of this man since I read about him, and never will I ever be.

Yeah, that's the problem with this lawsuit in the UK.
And your assumption is unfortunately correct, he will have to prove he is not Satoshi without demanding evidence from CW like a signed message.

It's like me knowing you hit my car but I have no footage, just that I saw you, BUT I must prove this without demanding that police check your car. So unless he finds proof somebody else is Satoshi he won't be able to sustain the fraud accusation.

That sucks, so basically if Hodlonaut can't present a good case, he basically loses the lawsuit and gets jail time. Clever thinking, CSW, but still negative publicity from the community.

[stompix]

I think it's a mistake to assume everything has to be decentralized. Bitcoin itself is decentralized, and Binance is known to be a centralized exchange with people behind it. If CZ wants to delist Faketoshi, so be it. People can collect that shitcoin somewhere else. Not everything has to be decentralized.

I'm willing to bet that nobody said the same when PayPal blocked WikiLeaks..
If I remember correctly that was commented as threats, abuse, illegal, etc etc..
Now, it's a free market and everybody should do what they want.

Although I hope it won't happen let's see your attitude on a major bank bans again crypto purchases.
Will you still keep this everyone is free to do what they want attitude?

That sucks, so basically if Hodlonaut can't present a good case, he basically loses the lawsuit and gets jail time. Clever thinking, CSW, but still negative publicity from the community.

Yeah, it sucks and it doesn't depend on the accusations. In this case, it does..
But if anyone is accusing you of embezzling money or getting a bribe good luck proving you didn't take money from the mob 20 years ago at a dinner. This is one case where the one accused is better off in this system.

[rjp55]

I hope they just delist bitcoin sv. I mean, what is bitcoin sv? What they are worth for? Just some rich guys playground nothing more.

I wonder, can they recover from delisting on binance.