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April 15, 2019, 04:15:08 AM
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I was randomly going through some of the posts and found out that a user randomly posts same post. I don't know how far is it acceptable by this forum but i am damn sure if it was any lower rank account, it would have been permanently banned.

Username: yogg
Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=140827

Post 1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5040120.msg48292294#msg48292294

Post 2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5108823.msg49816502#msg49816502

If you check "Post 1" you will see that this user yogg made a mistake and posted again with correction. (change*) But in "Post 2" this user didn't care about the spelling mistake and simply copy pasted the post.

Now, i can see it was against account buy/sell which is really appreciated by the forum but what he did can simply be defined as COPY-PASTE which isn't entertained by the forum. According to the forum rules, any post copied should result in perm ban.

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April 15, 2019, 04:21:09 AM
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He has basically copied his own post so it does not count as plagiarizing.

This would not get him banned too.
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April 15, 2019, 04:24:36 AM
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It's self-plagiarism and in general, there should be a note that he mentioned it before but in that particular case, it's not necessary.
The context is too common for a notification.

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April 15, 2019, 04:25:37 AM
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Plagiarism is the copying of someone else's work and passing it off as your own, in violation of the original author's copyright. You're allowed to copy your own work, since you're not harming anyone else. Why would you even think there was anything wrong with that? Roll Eyes

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April 15, 2019, 04:26:53 AM
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It is weird that he didn’t just edit his post. I am curious if he can edit his post, or if he just didn’t think to do so.
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It is weird that he didn’t just edit his post. I am curious if he can edit his post, or if he just didn’t think to do so.

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It is weird that he didn’t just edit his post. I am curious if he can edit his post, or if he just didn’t think to do so.
Auctions section.
Ahhh, so it was because he is unable to edit his post in that thread.

There are a lot of forum accounts for sale in auctions that aren’t actually auctions.

Anyway this is very far from plagiarism.
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April 15, 2019, 04:55:28 AM
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I do not think this will come under self plagiarism.

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Self-plagiarism occurs when a student submits his or her own previous work, or mixes parts of previous works, without permission from all professors involved. For example, it would be unacceptable to incorporate part of a term paper you wrote in high school into a paper assigned in a college course. Self-plagiarism also applies to submitting the same piece of work for assignments in different classes without previous permission from both professors.
https://www.bowdoin.edu/dean-of-students/judicial-board/academic-honesty-and-plagiarism/common-types-of-plagiarism.html

First: Yogg quoted himself.
Second: Do you think. Yogg need anybody permission to repost his own edited post?

 if it was unedited repost,then it can be reported for multiposting  but not for plagiarism.

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if it was unedited repost,then it can be reported for multiposting  but not for plagiarism.
He could have quoted his first post, but I don't really see anything wrong with this. Both threads deserve the warning.
If you want to report the posts, you can probably say both posts are off-topic.

There's another guy who posts the same thing many times Tongue As long as it's not spam, I wouldn't worry about it Smiley

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There's another guy who posts the same thing many times Tongue As long as it's not spam, I wouldn't worry about it Smiley

Very nice example  Smiley

I am waiting for someone who is going to report that guy and in the end what happen with that report + reporter.

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April 15, 2019, 06:57:08 AM
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I am waiting for someone who is going to report that guy and in the end what happen with that report + reporter.
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=theymos:
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The kind of posting approach is somehow violates the rule #12 of the forum.
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Nevertheless, I saw so many newbies or low rank users spread out their advertisements around bunches of topics with the same contents. I have not seen perma ban appeals from them (maybe I missed their ban appeals), but I have a feeling that the sort of violation does not result in perma bans. If posters get bans due to violate the rule #12, maybe they will only get temp bans, not perma bans.
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April 15, 2019, 07:12:54 AM
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Gee, how strange. You receive negative feedback from Yogg and now you're trying to dig up dirt. Next time just report a post (if you feel like it breaks the forum rules) instead of making these poluting threads.
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I am waiting for someone who is going to report that guy and in the end what happen with that report + reporter.
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=theymos:
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Theymos was not the admin/moderator of this forum from day1. I have read in some earlier post that trio of  Satoshi, Sirius and Gavin used to administrate/moderate the forum. Most probably that post was deleted by any one of them.

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Theymos was not the admin/moderator of this forum from day1.
BPIP doesn't exist that long either Wink

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I am waiting for someone who is going to report that guy and in the end what happen with that report + reporter.
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=theymos:
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Theymos was not the admin/moderator of this forum from day1. I have read in some earlier post that trio of  Satoshi, Sirius and Gavin used to administrate/moderate the forum. Most probably that post was deleted by any one of them.

The post in question was deleted since bpip was created in mid 2018, well after Satoshi, Sirus and Gavin stopped participating in the management, administration and moderation of the forum.

If you see any additional posts by theymos that break the rules, I would suggest you press the "report to moderator" button, and indicate the person writing the post already has one strike against them, and that the person deserves both a ban and the maximum negative trust possible  Cheesy
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Gee, how strange. You receive negative feedback from Yogg and now you're trying to dig up dirt. Next time just report a post (if you feel like it breaks the forum rules) instead of making these poluting threads.

The moment I saw his example I went directly to his trust score, and as expected, he had a negative trust from yogg.
And it is possible that he did report it, but probably he was unsuccessful.

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April 15, 2019, 01:45:03 PM
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Maybe sounds strange, but theymos_away have a whole topic removed :
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=theymos_away

Anyway it's not something strange. When theymos posted the HoweyCoins ICO I opened a thread that his account might have been compromised (didn't click any of the links as everything was quite suspicious and I didn't knew that it was a prank). Then he wrote with his alt account that it's just a joke and I moved the thread into archive. Some time later i found that the thread is gone together with the posts, so sometimes even admins posts get trashed, it shouldn't be surprising if he gets some posts deleted.

The other admin also have some posts deleted by the mods : https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=cyrus
Cheesy

Back to the topic. My full support to Yogg. Every time i report someone I write the same sentence, so that makes me also a self-plagiarist.

Advice to @yogg, next time just quote your earlier message you refer to, it's the same and no more shit will come your way.

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Theymos was not the admin/moderator of this forum from day1. I have read in some earlier post that trio of  Satoshi, Sirius and Gavin used to administrate/moderate the forum. Most probably that post was deleted by any one of them.
I have what you mentioned. In reality, theymos took over the form from Sirius, sometime between 2012 and 2013.
It's surprising how well-documented history can become totally forgotten... Satoshi created the forum on Nov 22, 2009, and was head administrator until almost 2011. Then Sirius was head administrator until 2012, which is when I took over.

Cobra also owns the bitcointalk.org domain name. I consider the forum to be basically owned by or at least dedicated to the Bitcoin community, though; I don't call anyone an owner of the forum.

That wiki article is kind of terrible...
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Nice one OP, I’ve tagged you as well now, Yogg is decent and you ain’t son

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