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April 15, 2019, 10:14:47 AM
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More use of the Hegelian Dialectic to strip us of our freedoms piece by piece. Never submit.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-13/austria-wants-ban-online-anonymity-and-urges-world-follow-its-footsteps
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April 15, 2019, 10:27:48 AM
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More use of the Hegelian Dialectic to strip us of our freedoms piece by piece. Never submit.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-13/austria-wants-ban-online-anonymity-and-urges-world-follow-its-footsteps

It really feels surreal that it is 2019 and places in Europe are still trying to silence people's speech.

It is one thing to filter certain words from being used. It is another thing to ban people for using words that are allowed.

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April 15, 2019, 10:28:33 AM
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I may not support the ban of online anonymity when it comes to financial transactions such as  blockchain and cryptocurrencies, but on the issue of trying to stop hate speech on the social media I believe that is a food move in the right direction of you consider the havoc hate speech have cause in our society recently and social media is the vehicle use to convey this hate speech all around the world.
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April 15, 2019, 10:34:54 AM
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I may not support the ban of online anonymity when it comes to financial transactions such as  blockchain and cryptocurrencies, but on the issue of trying to stop hate speech on the social media I believe that is a food move in the right direction of you consider the havoc hate speech have cause in our society recently and social media is the vehicle use to convey this hate speech all around the world.

That's not how it works. Either you have it or you don't, you don't get to pick and choose. Also if you think finances are more important than freedom of speech then you are quite naive.
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April 15, 2019, 11:58:40 AM
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So look like facebook/twitter is going to lose a lot of userbase in Austria. Might be all the user shift to some other platform that would not come in jurisdiction of EU and Austria.

So what Austria will be going to do next?
Selectively banning the websites in Austria. Look like they are moving towards the internet censorship and this is their first step.

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April 15, 2019, 12:07:40 PM
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It's not fair to say that Austria as a whole wants to ban anomity because some far right or left group introduced a bill that will never get passed.


Bills get brought up all the time in America that are a joke in order to prove a point,
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April 15, 2019, 12:34:34 PM
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I may not support the ban of online anonymity when it comes to financial transactions such as  blockchain and cryptocurrencies, but on the issue of trying to stop hate speech on the social media ....

In the USA for several years, we have seen over and over, banning of conservative writers and thinkers by Facebook and Twitter based on something they said being "hate speech."

I no longer take this type of thing seriously and consider it nothing more than one sided political repression.

Maybe it is one of those kind of things that sounds nice in the abstract, but when implemented becomes evil very quickly.
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April 15, 2019, 12:47:41 PM
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"Hate Speech" is becoming the new "Terrorism".  Anything that stood in the way of the United States was labeled as terrorism.  "Terrorism" allowed in the Patriot Act to spy on Americans.  "Terrorism" gave reason for USA to invade other countries for resources.

Now calling anything they don't agree with Hate Speech will allow them to push their agendas once again.
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April 15, 2019, 02:01:33 PM
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Conspiracy theory: most Internet control legislation aim at Bitcoin.

Think about it: if you control the Internet, you control Bitcoin.

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April 15, 2019, 02:05:50 PM
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More use of the Hegelian Dialectic to strip us of our freedoms piece by piece. Never submit.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-13/austria-wants-ban-online-anonymity-and-urges-world-follow-its-footsteps

It really feels surreal that it is 2019 and places in Europe are still trying to silence people's speech.

It is one thing to filter certain words from being used. It is another thing to ban people for using words that are allowed.
Everything has been coming to that for a long time. Recently, with all those Facebook scandals all EU countries made their changes in laws, that are related to data storage.
Such policy can be provided in different ways, for example in Poland you have to verify your sim card with your ID to activate it, then it became easy for the government to identify the user in social networks. Media platforms like FB or twitter would kindly help with that.
This hate speech shit was started by US leftists and spread to the entire western world.
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April 15, 2019, 02:54:45 PM
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The EU (and its member states) is an authoritarian regime which is steadily marching in the same direction as the USSR. Every year they reduce individual freedoms. If I was in the EU, I'd be trying to leave ASAP.

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April 15, 2019, 02:59:45 PM
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And to think some here believes in the goodness of a centralized anything, especially thoughts, as long as they are in control...

I don't know if the Allies can keep saving you from your own destruction over and over again Europe...



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April 15, 2019, 03:00:13 PM
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The reason why Austria is banning online anonymity is that Europe was dominated by money laundering cases and fraud. More European banks are being drawn into money-laundering allegations centered on dirty Russian money, adding to the scandal in an industry still recovering from the financial crisis.

A big percentage of money laundering was operated and executed using the cryptocurrencies as well. So we have to expect that KYC will become with us always.

Check this article for more information.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-05/dirty-money-scandal-widens-with-reports-on-nordea-and-lithuania

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April 15, 2019, 03:37:24 PM
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If that is the case then they just banned bitcoin partly. Bitcoin promotes the idea of being anonymous. Is bitcoin banned in Austria?




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April 15, 2019, 04:38:12 PM
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I may not support the ban of online anonymity when it comes to financial transactions such as  blockchain and cryptocurrencies, but on the issue of trying to stop hate speech on the social media I believe that is a food move in the right direction of you consider the havoc hate speech have cause in our society recently and social media is the vehicle use to convey this hate speech all around the world.

Think of the havoc caused by the oppression and suppression of freedom of speech, be it hate speech or any speech... I just can't comprehend how people can fall into this trap of thinking anything good can come of this, especially those in the Bitcoin community.
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April 16, 2019, 01:09:51 PM
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"We need less anonymity to find hate groups" they said. "Criminals are abusing anonymity of crypto" they said. All the same thing over and over. Cyberbullying. Money laundering. Criminal activity. These are trigger words used to justify the gradual reduction of rights.
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April 16, 2019, 05:21:51 PM
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Austria can do that but only within it's own jurisdiction. It's not going to put the country in a good light among the international community but if their government would implement such a backward law, the citizens would have no choice but to comply. But they can't influence other countries to follow suit.


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April 16, 2019, 07:18:11 PM
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It's looking very grim for the future of europe regarding privacy and a lot of citizens don't even give a frick about it
"oh i have nothing to hide"
But i guess it's the same thing all around the world even after the NSA Snowden leaks it only took a few weeks to get back to the usual status quo...
What can we do about this when the majority of people just doesn't care about anything as long as their nutella doesn't taste like feces?

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April 16, 2019, 10:57:20 PM
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It's looking very grim for the future of europe regarding privacy and a lot of citizens don't even give a frick about it
"oh i have nothing to hide"
But i guess it's the same thing all around the world even after the NSA Snowden leaks it only took a few weeks to get back to the usual status quo...
What can we do about this when the majority of people just doesn't care about anything as long as their nutella doesn't taste like feces?

You know what you tell those "if you are doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide" people? You tell them "In that case, you won't mind if I show your mother what kind of pornography you like."
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April 17, 2019, 01:26:52 AM
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More use of the Hegelian Dialectic to strip us of our freedoms piece by piece. Never submit.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-13/austria-wants-ban-online-anonymity-and-urges-world-follow-its-footsteps
Oh this Austria, what a wonderful country... Mountains, rivers, Schönbrunn Palace and a lot of another amazing stuff.
By the way, it's also a Hitler's birthplace.
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