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July 27, 2025, 02:34:03 PM
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The above picture is correct, it is not as easy as we think, we think we will buy Bitcoin and hold it. But past history shows that holding Bitcoin has to face various problems, as shown in the picture above. But if we have a long-term mindset, then holding Bitcoin will be like a straight road. On the other hand, if we have a short-term plan, then it will seem like a winding road, which will not be possible for us to hold for a long time. So everyone can invest but not everyone can hold for a long time. So if we want to invest in Bitcoin, we have to make a long-term plan, which will bring success in the future.
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July 27, 2025, 05:16:50 PM
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The above picture is correct, it is not as easy as we think, we think we will buy Bitcoin and hold it. But past history shows that holding Bitcoin has to face various problems, as shown in the picture above. But if we have a long-term mindset, then holding Bitcoin will be like a straight road. On the other hand, if we have a short-term plan, then it will seem like a winding road, which will not be possible for us to hold for a long time. So everyone can invest but not everyone can hold for a long time. So if we want to invest in Bitcoin, we have to make a long-term plan, which will bring success in the future.
Yes, you are right it is best to invest in Bitcoin with a long term view and invest according to the DCA method. And those who set their minds in the beginning that they will invest for the long term, they do not worry about whether the price increases or decreases. They just continue to invest regularly.But one thing is being observed now, that is, many people start with the intention of investing for the long term, but they face various problems, such as any financial problems or emergencies in the future. And to deal with that situation, many times they have to sell their Bitcoin.Therefore, fund management is very important before starting the investment. One should not start investing without creating a reserve fund and an emergency fund. When those funds are created, then one can safely continue investing according to the DCA method and will definitely achieve success.And the time required for this success should be at least 4 to 10 years.
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July 27, 2025, 07:22:45 PM
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The above picture is correct, it is not as easy as we think, we think we will buy Bitcoin and hold it. But past history shows that holding Bitcoin has to face various problems, as shown in the picture above. But if we have a long-term mindset, then holding Bitcoin will be like a straight road. On the other hand, if we have a short-term plan, then it will seem like a winding road, which will not be possible for us to hold for a long time. So everyone can invest but not everyone can hold for a long time. So if we want to invest in Bitcoin, we have to make a long-term plan, which will bring success in the future.

Holding Bitcoin for long term is not easy but only those that are determined can actually do that and long term is where all the good things one seek from Bitcoin lies. You seems to contradict something, having a long term plan doesn't mean everything will go straight for that investor rather you will have to work everything out yourself remember Bitcoin investment is not all rosey and knowing this will help guide an investor sometimes especially when they come across any temporary challenge.

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July 27, 2025, 08:40:12 PM
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The above picture is correct, it is not as easy as we think, we think we will buy Bitcoin and hold it. But past history shows that holding Bitcoin has to face various problems, as shown in the picture above. But if we have a long-term mindset, then holding Bitcoin will be like a straight road. On the other hand, if we have a short-term plan, then it will seem like a winding road, which will not be possible for us to hold for a long time. So everyone can invest but not everyone can hold for a long time. So if we want to invest in Bitcoin, we have to make a long-term plan, which will bring success in the future.

Holding Bitcoin for long term is not easy but only those that are determined can actually do that and long term is where all the good things one seek from Bitcoin lies. You seems to contradict something, having a long term plan doesn't mean everything will go straight for that investor rather you will have to work everything out yourself remember Bitcoin investment is not all rosey and knowing this will help guide an investor sometimes especially when they come across any temporary challenge.

Holding Bitcoin for a long term is not difficult don't make him scared he just need to have a good source of income and have a good investment plan before holding so that he can't be tired along the way, long term or short term is achieved if you make up your mind but holding for long term gives you the assurance of maximizing profit because there is a possibility of a price increase in future and if you are patient enough in your holding you are sure of making more profit. No investment is rosey don't make it seem like Bitcoin investment is different but it is better than most of the other investments out there which is the more reason why you should invest in Bitcoin then any other investment.

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July 27, 2025, 10:16:02 PM
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The above picture is correct, it is not as easy as we think, we think we will buy Bitcoin and hold it. But past history shows that holding Bitcoin has to face various problems, as shown in the picture above. But if we have a long-term mindset, then holding Bitcoin will be like a straight road. On the other hand, if we have a short-term plan, then it will seem like a winding road, which will not be possible for us to hold for a long time. So everyone can invest but not everyone can hold for a long time. So if we want to invest in Bitcoin, we have to make a long-term plan, which will bring success in the future.

Long term investment can only be difficult for those that does not have the strong determination, that is why we need to be very  discipline and also learn about decision-making if your decision is to focus on the Long term investment then you Stick to it regardless the challenges that might come your way but if you don't know about decision-making the accumulating process becomes tougher . And sure, is good to focus in chasing the long term goal this way the stress will be lesser for us than when we are investing for short term profit I believe those who have experienced it will testify how stressful and difficult it was for them so is better we just stick to long term investment as this is the right way to approach bitcoin investment, this way you won't undergo any stress so long as you have the determination.
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July 27, 2025, 10:51:08 PM
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The above picture is correct, it is not as easy as we think, we think we will buy Bitcoin and hold it. But past history shows that holding Bitcoin has to face various problems, as shown in the picture above. But if we have a long-term mindset, then holding Bitcoin will be like a straight road. On the other hand, if we have a short-term plan, then it will seem like a winding road, which will not be possible for us to hold for a long time. So everyone can invest but not everyone can hold for a long time. So if we want to invest in Bitcoin, we have to make a long-term plan, which will bring success in the future.

What I can say about both visuals is that there is no finish line for Bitcoin. The journey continues forever. The longer you hold on to it, the more you earn. You don't even have to sell it, your money keeps increasing in value. If you focus on the big picture instead of worrying too much about short-term (2-3 year) declines, you will be on the winning side.
Most people suffer losses because they cannot take a long-term view.

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July 27, 2025, 11:35:31 PM
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The above picture is correct, it is not as easy as we think, we think we will buy Bitcoin and hold it. But past history shows that holding Bitcoin has to face various problems, as shown in the picture above. But if we have a long-term mindset, then holding Bitcoin will be like a straight road. On the other hand, if we have a short-term plan, then it will seem like a winding road, which will not be possible for us to hold for a long time. So everyone can invest but not everyone can hold for a long time. So if we want to invest in Bitcoin, we have to make a long-term plan, which will bring success in the future.

Holding Bitcoin for long term is not easy but only those that are determined can actually do that and long term is where all the good things one seek from Bitcoin lies. You seems to contradict something, having a long term plan doesn't mean everything will go straight for that investor rather you will have to work everything out yourself remember Bitcoin investment is not all rosey and knowing this will help guide an investor sometimes especially when they come across any temporary challenge.

Holding Bitcoin for a long term is not difficult don't make him scared he just need to have a good source of income and have a good investment plan before holding so that he can't be tired along the way, long term or short term is achieved if you make up your mind but holding for long term gives you the assurance of maximizing profit because there is a possibility of a price increase in future and if you are patient enough in your holding you are sure of making more profit. No investment is rosey don't make it seem like Bitcoin investment is different but it is better than most of the other investments out there which is the more reason why you should invest in Bitcoin then any other investment.

I was not trying to scared that folk dude, I was just stating the fact and holding for long term is not just having a good source of income but rather it is all about mindset and shaping your thoughts towards what one desire. Remember there are folks that has good source of income but they are struggling to hold for long term maybe it is because of the mindset they have or the desire they have who knows. Lastly, not all folks can withstand the pressure of seeing the price of Bitcoin dropping even though they have a good source of income, so it is not all rosey.

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July 27, 2025, 11:54:53 PM
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The above picture is correct, it is not as easy as we think, we think we will buy Bitcoin and hold it. But past history shows that holding Bitcoin has to face various problems, as shown in the picture above. But if we have a long-term mindset, then holding Bitcoin will be like a straight road. On the other hand, if we have a short-term plan, then it will seem like a winding road, which will not be possible for us to hold for a long time. So everyone can invest but not everyone can hold for a long time. So if we want to invest in Bitcoin, we have to make a long-term plan, which will bring success in the future.
Investing in bitcoin involves planning for a long term. The picture above indicates or shows entirely what it’s like to  go on the bitcoin investment journey. You need patience, discipline and good financial planning. That’s why money you can afford to lose is advised (that’s your discretionary money) because with that you wouldn’t be bothered by the dips in the journey. Just like Life people make plans that life will be a straight line but the reality takes you through some curves and up & downs but with determination, resilience and hard work you get to your desired point. So it is with bitcoin, you have to adapt, re-strategise and cross check your plans but what’ should be constant is that you keep accumulating and holding. With consistency you’ll surely get to your finish line.

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July 28, 2025, 12:00:14 AM
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Actually people keep on emphasizing on Bitcoin being easy or not easy to invest or HODL for the long term forgetting that Bitcoin investment is is an investment that allows you to invest what you can afford to lose or what you can invest comfortably with your discretion fund without being affected.  The problem is that those guys that keeps saying that Bitcoin is difficult to invest or HODL are the ones that either invest what they can't afford to lose or are impatient guys who can't HODL for the long term. This are often traders even as they appear to be the Long term traders who invest less than a circle. They are easily moved by taking profit so quickly.

You seems to contradict something, having a long term plan doesn't mean everything will go straight for that investor rather you will have to work everything out yourself remember Bitcoin investment is not all rosey and knowing this will help guide an investor sometimes especially when they come across any temporary challenge.
Yes thats for sure, Bitcoin journey is not always rosey, its journey is not a smooth ride but continuous investment without looking how rough the movement is for the long term will make it look as if it's a smooth ride. Let's take for example starting from the Early part of 2011 till date, Bitcoin has experience Alot of ups and down, which if a person decide to panic during this mountain and valley movement, may sell too soon. maybe the person will not be patient to HODL this long. But if such person don't mind the ups and down and continue buying and HODLing till date, he will be super rich compeard to a person who panic and sold and buy again repeatedly.

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July 28, 2025, 12:02:57 AM
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Sitting idly and waiting for dips to happen before you buy Bitcoin is a bad practice that should be discouraged by all because it has made a lot of people to miss buying Bitcoin at decent prices instead jumped in when then felt price was leaving them behind with some ending up in problems. The only condition I will support someone keeping some funds for dips is when the person is using a hybrid system of DCA combined with buying the dips, This way you can keep the DCA ongoing while allocating some funds for buying the dips so that you will not miss your chances of getting Bitcoin at any market condition. Apart from this, I will always go with the DCA method which is easier to use for everyone.
Some people just initiate the habit of procrastinatiion and tag it that they are waiting for the dip not knowing that they are indirectly doing their bad, this habit is always common with newbies,

On the contrary, these ideas are not common amongst just the newbies but also with some persons who have known and been with bitcoin over some time.
I believe there are several other reasons why one might not be able to buy bitcoin at a particular time but one easy thing to do is simply blame it on waiting for the dip and for the few years I’ve been in the crypto space, I have also realized that, bitcoin can’t be easily predicted that’s why we only speculate and one reason the DCA method has been invoked all these while is simply because it supports the principle of speculations and gives room for people to buy bitcoin at anytime regardless of the market price.
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July 28, 2025, 01:12:38 AM
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The above picture is correct, it is not as easy as we think, we think we will buy Bitcoin and hold it. But past history shows that holding Bitcoin has to face various problems, as shown in the picture above. But if we have a long-term mindset, then holding Bitcoin will be like a straight road. On the other hand, if we have a short-term plan, then it will seem like a winding road, which will not be possible for us to hold for a long time. So everyone can invest but not everyone can hold for a long time. So if we want to invest in Bitcoin, we have to make a long-term plan, which will bring success in the future.
What I can say about both visuals is that there is no finish line for Bitcoin. The journey continues forever. The longer you hold on to it, the more you earn. You don't even have to sell it, your money keeps increasing in value. If you focus on the big picture instead of worrying too much about short-term (2-3 year) declines, you will be on the winning side.
Most people suffer losses because they cannot take a long-term view.

If we take a long term view, and we also recognize that there are going to be ups and downs along the way, then we figure out our position size so that we are not feeling over invested and that we can keep buying through the whole period... so then perhaps after 4-10 years or longer we are able to see progress in the amount of bitcoin that we hold, and we had not gotten shaken out of our position during that time.

It is better to still be in the game after 4-10 years or longer rather than scrambling to recover whatever ways that we might have had over done it, and also if we Under do it, then we might have regrets, too.. We have to find a balance that is sufficiently aggressive, but not so aggressive that we are going to become overly emotional about our investment through the ups and downs along the way.. which also might include extended periods of nonperformance that could be a combination of down and failure to go up.

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Yes thats for sure, Bitcoin journey is not always rosey, its journey is not a smooth ride but continuous investment without looking how rough the movement is for the long term will make it look as if it's a smooth ride. Let's take for example starting from the Early part of 2011 till date, Bitcoin has experience Alot of ups and down, which if a person decide to panic during this mountain and valley movement, may sell too soon. maybe the person will not be patient to HODL this long. But if such person don't mind the ups and down and continue buying and HODLing till date, he will be super rich compeard to a person who panic and sold and buy again repeatedly.

We do not have to go back to 2011 to find examples of guys who either sold too much BTC too soon or they failed/refused to buy bitcoin at various points along the way when the could have either achieved overaccumulation status or have had been working towards achieving overaccumulation status.

Of course, there are guys who repeatedly made the same mistake of selling too much of their bitcoin too soon, and then failed to re-accumulate.. Considered that it was too late to establish a bitcoin position.. and those guys perhaps will take a long time to learn that they should be accumulating bitcoin at any price, not selling it even if the process might take a while to get to overaccumulation status. as compared with some guys at some point learn along the way that they need to focus on ongoingly buying bitcoin not selling it and just continuing to buy it.. .. and sure in the beginning bitcoin accumulating guys might not always be in the positive in regards to their bitcoin holdings, yet is seems that after 4-10 years or longer of continuing to accumulate bitcoin through buying and not selling any of it, at some point they are going to get to a level of bitcoin accumulation in which they have enough bitcoin or more than enough bitcoin. .and their bitcoin status will help to inform them how to go forward from there in regards to either being in maintenance status or perhaps at some later point being able to employ sustainable withdrawal to the extent those kinds of practices might be within their way of dealing with their BTC stash..

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July 28, 2025, 05:33:45 AM
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Sitting idly and waiting for dips to happen before you buy Bitcoin is a bad practice that should be discouraged by all because it has made a lot of people to miss buying Bitcoin at decent prices instead jumped in when then felt price was leaving them behind with some ending up in problems. The only condition I will support someone keeping some funds for dips is when the person is using a hybrid system of DCA combined with buying the dips, This way you can keep the DCA ongoing while allocating some funds for buying the dips so that you will not miss your chances of getting Bitcoin at any market condition. Apart from this, I will always go with the DCA method which is easier to use for everyone.
Some people just initiate the habit of procrastinatiion and tag it that they are waiting for the dip not knowing that they are indirectly doing their bad, this habit is always common with newbies,

On the contrary, these ideas are not common amongst just the newbies but also with some persons who have known and been with bitcoin over some time.
I believe there are several other reasons why one might not be able to buy bitcoin at a particular time but one easy thing to do is simply blame it on waiting for the dip and for the few years I’ve been in the crypto space, I have also realized that, bitcoin can’t be easily predicted that’s why we only speculate and one reason the DCA method has been invoked all these while is simply because it supports the principle of speculations and gives room for people to buy bitcoin at anytime regardless of the market price.

New investors panic when the price of Bitcoin drops, but experienced investors see it as a discount and invest because they are always looking for opportunities. Bitcoin has proven to be a strong asset in the long run. The DCA strategy will work great for you because no matter how much Bitcoin you buy, you can buy Bitcoin regularly and you can continue to do so for a long time. This greatly reduces your risk because you continue to invest even after the market rises and you will continue to move forward as the price of Bitcoin increases.
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July 28, 2025, 06:08:38 AM
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My fellow plebs, it's very important that to those who are left among us to keep HODLing Bitcoin. Retail HODLers have been going down and it's going negative week on week, month on month, then later - YEAR ON YEAR. The institutions have definitely come and will be willing to take your Bitcoin away from you at ANY price. MAKE IT EXPENSIVE FOR THEM - HODL.

Holding and continuing to buy is likely a much better way forward in order to continue to reinforce the ongoing accumulation of bitcoin, especially no low coiners who are in their first cycle or two of BTC accumulation.


What are your shower thoughts for that graph, JJG? Retail accumulated a lot of coins and had higher combined holdings of Bitcoin from July, 2022 through Jaunary, 2024, then the institutions started accumulating and now have more holdings than the retail/pleb investors.

Will that institutional buying surge continue, or will we see another surge for retail buyers during the next cycle?

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July 28, 2025, 06:24:57 AM
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My fellow plebs, it's very important that to those who are left among us to keep HODLing Bitcoin. Retail HODLers have been going down and it's going negative week on week, month on month, then later - YEAR ON YEAR. The institutions have definitely come and will be willing to take your Bitcoin away from you at ANY price. MAKE IT EXPENSIVE FOR THEM - HODL.
Holding and continuing to buy is likely a much better way forward in order to continue to reinforce the ongoing accumulation of bitcoin, especially no low coiners who are in their first cycle or two of BTC accumulation.
What are your shower thoughts for that graph, JJG? Retail accumulated a lot of coins and had higher combined holdings of Bitcoin from July, 2022 through Jaunary, 2024, then the institutions started accumulating and now have more holdings than the retail/pleb investors.

Will that institutional buying surge continue, or will we see another surge for retail buyers during the next cycle?

Your interpretation seems reasonable in terms of institutions seem to be coming into bitcoin BIGGEDLY in recent times, and surely each of us who knows about bitcoin likely needs to continue to accumulate bitcoin to the best of our abilities since we do not know the future and bitcoin prices could continue to go up and then if we wait until later, we may well have to pay more to get bitcoin.  Accordingly, BIGGER players seem to be coming in and sucking up the bitcoin supply which seems to continue to cause upward pressures on the BTC prices. 

We should always be trying to protect ourselves, which I have frequently attributed that to needs to be ongoingly persistently, consistently and perhaps even aggressively buying of bitcoin, whether the graph supports it or not.

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July 28, 2025, 09:09:40 AM
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I believe that convenience and efficiency for Bitcoin must be built some centralization in mind, but the underlying should always be Bitcoin - decentralized and censorship-resistant.
That is for sure, to reach that peak of global use cases of bitcoin, there must be a centralized mindsets of the people to have an Concordia conceptions that everyone should be obligated to be self custodian to their funds and not just limited to that but the flexibility to accepting bitcoin for payments for the exercise and privilege of self custodian as JayJuanGee maybe prioritized.

In the very beginning of accumulating bitcoin, you might not need to be a self-custodian, yet each of us should try to keep some portion of our coins in self-custodian wallets.

The power of bitcoin comes from self-custody, yet no one is forced to self-custody, yet if everyone were to hold their keys with third parties (which means not hold their own coins), then bitcoin would lose its power.

A certain amount of self-custodianship has to continue to happen for bitcoin to retain its power.

On an individual level, you are also protecting yourself from various 3-rd party risks by holding your own keys.

In 2022, there were several exchanges that went bankrupt or otherwise did not have all the BTC they claimed to have, and several of them were gambling with the BTC that they held because they were promising high rates of yield for others to deposit their BTC, and so they maybe would pay 7% while they were receiving 15% or 20% from someone else and then so the exchange would keep the difference... but then it ended up that a bunch of these various parties were promising higher and higher levels of interest rates, and they only way that they could offer such higher rates was by using deposits from later investors to pay off early investors, and they were also gambling with the BTC to try to make returns that were greater than the rates that they were paying. Yet when the BTC market turned down in 2022, there was a lot of contagion since so many of the parties relied on the BTC price going up and the other products that they were gambling on in order to keep their payments going... so in the end, many of them did not have the coins they claimed to have to pay off all of their depositors.

So many people always chase convenience without noticing it comes at the cost of control and sovereignty, self custody might look like a hassle at first, but it is the very thing that makes Bitcoin different from the legacy system without it, we are just recreating the same centralized  vulnerabilities we all are trying to run from it . And you are right there's are rooms for centralized tools or forum as long as the grassroot remains decentralized, the aim is not to kill the third parties but to make sure they don't become single point of failure again, its about balancing accessibility without compromised on core value and in the end a small self custody is better than none


You are right. Exempting the concept of decentralizations which gives the privilege to self custodian, the bitcoin and it blockchain is only dangling around with same concept of the traditional system. It digital form does not really make it a unique one because there had become an advanced digital banking system.
So what else can we rate advance to the banking system? The store of value? Of course not because there had still been existed commodities that posses same potential. In all, privacy is the unique form of bitcoin amongst every other currency or valuabilities.
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I believe that convenience and efficiency for Bitcoin must be built some centralization in mind, but the underlying should always be Bitcoin - decentralized and censorship-resistant.
That is for sure, to reach that peak of global use cases of bitcoin, there must be a centralized mindsets of the people to have an Concordia conceptions that everyone should be obligated to be self custodian to their funds and not just limited to that but the flexibility to accepting bitcoin for payments for the exercise and privilege of self custodian as JayJuanGee maybe prioritized.

In the very beginning of accumulating bitcoin, you might not need to be a self-custodian, yet each of us should try to keep some portion of our coins in self-custodian wallets.

The power of bitcoin comes from self-custody, yet no one is forced to self-custody, yet if everyone were to hold their keys with third parties (which means not hold their own coins), then bitcoin would lose its power.

A certain amount of self-custodianship has to continue to happen for bitcoin to retain its power.

On an individual level, you are also protecting yourself from various 3-rd party risks by holding your own keys.

In 2022, there were several exchanges that went bankrupt or otherwise did not have all the BTC they claimed to have, and several of them were gambling with the BTC that they held because they were promising high rates of yield for others to deposit their BTC, and so they maybe would pay 7% while they were receiving 15% or 20% from someone else and then so the exchange would keep the difference... but then it ended up that a bunch of these various parties were promising higher and higher levels of interest rates, and they only way that they could offer such higher rates was by using deposits from later investors to pay off early investors, and they were also gambling with the BTC to try to make returns that were greater than the rates that they were paying. Yet when the BTC market turned down in 2022, there was a lot of contagion since so many of the parties relied on the BTC price going up and the other products that they were gambling on in order to keep their payments going... so in the end, many of them did not have the coins they claimed to have to pay off all of their depositors.

So many people always chase convenience without noticing it comes at the cost of control and sovereignty, self custody might look like a hassle at first, but it is the very thing that makes Bitcoin different from the legacy system without it, we are just recreating the same centralized  vulnerabilities we all are trying to run from it . And you are right there's are rooms for centralized tools or forum as long as the grassroot remains decentralized, the aim is not to kill the third parties but to make sure they don't become single point of failure again, its about balancing accessibility without compromised on core value and in the end a small self custody is better than none


You are right. Exempting the concept of decentralizations which gives the privilege to self custodian, the bitcoin and it blockchain is only dangling around with same concept of the traditional system. It digital form does not really make it a unique one because there had become an advanced digital banking system.
So what else can we rate advance to the banking system? The store of value? Of course not because there had still been existed commodities that posses same potential. In all, privacy is the unique form of bitcoin amongst every other currency or valuabilities.
You are right when you say that decentralization is the main distinction, but I respectfully disagree that Bitcoin merely dangles around, the same idea as conventional systems. Bitcoin's fundamental value lies not only in its digital form but also in its permissionless and trustless nature, which is something that even sophisticated digital banking is still unable to provide. You are still depending on outside parties when you use banks, and you run the risk of inflation, censorship, and access restrictions.
While commodities like gold have traditionally functioned as a store of value, Bitcoin offers features that most traditional assets do not for example portability, divisibility, and verifiability. Indeed, one advantage Bitcoin has over fiat and the majority of digital alternatives is privacy, when used properly. Therefore, although privacy is undoubtedly one of Bitcoin's advantages, the combination of its characteristics, scarcity, decentralization, borderless nature, and immutability creates a new financial standard, not just a digital clone of the old one....
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My fellow plebs, it's very important that to those who are left among us to keep HODLing Bitcoin. Retail HODLers have been going down and it's going negative week on week, month on month, then later - YEAR ON YEAR. The institutions have definitely come and will be willing to take your Bitcoin away from you at ANY price. MAKE IT EXPENSIVE FOR THEM - HODL.
Holding and continuing to buy is likely a much better way forward in order to continue to reinforce the ongoing accumulation of bitcoin, especially no low coiners who are in their first cycle or two of BTC accumulation.
What are your shower thoughts for that graph, JJG? Retail accumulated a lot of coins and had higher combined holdings of Bitcoin from July, 2022 through Jaunary, 2024, then the institutions started accumulating and now have more holdings than the retail/pleb investors.

Will that institutional buying surge continue, or will we see another surge for retail buyers during the next cycle?

Your interpretation seems reasonable in terms of institutions seem to be coming into bitcoin BIGGEDLY in recent times, and surely each of us who knows about bitcoin likely needs to continue to accumulate bitcoin to the best of our abilities since we do not know the future and bitcoin prices could continue to go up and then if we wait until later, we may well have to pay more to get bitcoin.  Accordingly, BIGGER players seem to be coming in and sucking up the bitcoin supply which seems to continue to cause upward pressures on the BTC prices. 

We should always be trying to protect ourselves, which I have frequently attributed that to needs to be ongoingly persistently, consistently and perhaps even aggressively buying of bitcoin, whether the graph supports it or not.

This is true, the best way to resist pressure from the bigger players and protect ourselves and our holdings is not to give in to sell but rather we should stay consistent and maintain persistence in our ongoing accumulation of bitcoin. No matter what the graph shows, and as long term investors we should keep on accumulating bitcoin as much as we can, the future remains uncertain and bitcoin price will continue to go up, and at such if anyone waits to buy later may still end up paying more to buy bitcoin.

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Your interpretation seems reasonable in terms of institutions seem to be coming into bitcoin BIGGEDLY in recent times, and surely each of us who knows about bitcoin likely needs to continue to accumulate bitcoin to the best of our abilities since we do not know the future and bitcoin prices could continue to go up and then if we wait until later, we may well have to pay more to get bitcoin.  Accordingly, BIGGER players seem to be coming in and sucking up the bitcoin supply which seems to continue to cause upward pressures on the BTC prices. 

We should always be trying to protect ourselves, which I have frequently attributed that to needs to be ongoingly persistently, consistently and perhaps even aggressively buying of bitcoin, whether the graph supports it or not.
I love this statement I bolded, some people just seek for graphs help before they can actually invest in Bitcoin immediately or not, with the the kind of hevay buying by different institutions even as it is, there are some institutions that wouldn't want to make there Bitcoin hodlings known or open, they buy secretly at all time or any given opportunity, I said something the other time you didn't agree with me to an extent although it was not in this thread, I will have to say it again, despite that most of the funds used by microstrategy to invest in Bitcoin is not theirs directly but it is also risky that they do that but for them to keep investing heavily with such amount as they do persistently, I think that it should serve as an eye opener to skeptical minds or will I say those sitting at the fence doing nothing, personally I believe in learning or emulating the good part from anyone, am very happy that you keep sounding it for people to see and also hear, for me Bitcoin investment is very easy now but no one can tell how things will turn out to be in time coming and I don't think anything is stoping anyone anywhere from starting now.

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The above picture is correct, it is not as easy as we think, we think we will buy Bitcoin and hold it. But past history shows that holding Bitcoin has to face various problems, as shown in the picture above. But if we have a long-term mindset, then holding Bitcoin will be like a straight road. On the other hand, if we have a short-term plan, then it will seem like a winding road, which will not be possible for us to hold for a long time. So everyone can invest but not everyone can hold for a long time. So if we want to invest in Bitcoin, we have to make a long-term plan, which will bring success in the future.

What I can say about both visuals is that there is no finish line for Bitcoin. The journey continues forever. The longer you hold on to it, the more you earn. You don't even have to sell it, your money keeps increasing in value. If you focus on the big picture instead of worrying too much about short-term (2-3 year) declines, you will be on the winning side.
Most people suffer losses because they cannot take a long-term view.

Every person needs money before his death. Nowadays it is not possible to do anything without money. A person can earn money very well till the age of 40. But after 40 years, many types of physical problems arise in them, at that time their expenses increase a lot. A person starts holding Bitcoin from the first day of their working life and if he holds it for a long time, then he will be able to build a very big portfolio in the future.

But yes, as we say, holding investments for a long time is not that easy. There are many types of financial crises in our life. Many people sell their holdings to deal with these crises, while many others sell their holdings in fear of falling. Many types of obstacles can come in our life, we have to hold on to our holdings by overcoming all the obstacles.

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My fellow plebs, it's very important that to those who are left among us to keep HODLing Bitcoin. Retail HODLers have been going down and it's going negative week on week, month on month, then later - YEAR ON YEAR. The institutions have definitely come and will be willing to take your Bitcoin away from you at ANY price. MAKE IT EXPENSIVE FOR THEM - HODL.
Holding and continuing to buy is likely a much better way forward in order to continue to reinforce the ongoing accumulation of bitcoin, especially no low coiners who are in their first cycle or two of BTC accumulation.
What are your shower thoughts for that graph, JJG? Retail accumulated a lot of coins and had higher combined holdings of Bitcoin from July, 2022 through Jaunary, 2024, then the institutions started accumulating and now have more holdings than the retail/pleb investors.

Will that institutional buying surge continue, or will we see another surge for retail buyers during the next cycle?

Your interpretation seems reasonable in terms of institutions seem to be coming into bitcoin BIGGEDLY in recent times, and surely each of us who knows about bitcoin likely needs to continue to accumulate bitcoin to the best of our abilities since we do not know the future and bitcoin prices could continue to go up and then if we wait until later, we may well have to pay more to get bitcoin.  Accordingly, BIGGER players seem to be coming in and sucking up the bitcoin supply which seems to continue to cause upward pressures on the BTC prices. 

We should always be trying to protect ourselves, which I have frequently attributed that to needs to be ongoingly persistently, consistently and perhaps even aggressively buying of bitcoin, whether the graph supports it or not.
Yes, we need to pay special attention to not miss the opportunity we missed in 2020 and 2022. Where ordinary investors used to compete with Bitcoin, large institutions have moved in. The opportunity for ordinary investors is almost over. For those who cannot hold Bitcoin at this time or do not start accumulating Bitcoin now, it will be more difficult to own Bitcoin in the future. Since the supply of Bitcoin is limited, the more you delay, the more you will have to pay to buy Bitcoin. For those who do not use this opportunity yet, it will be more difficult to get it in the future. Those who have not invested yet or are interested in starting investing should be very aware that there is the trend of country-based reserve currencies and large institutions reserving Bitcoin, will you as an ordinary investor have the ability to purchase a Bitcoin in the future? When the price of Bitcoin was last in 2022, it was $20000, will those who were looking for a dip to buy at that time be able to buy Bitcoin in today's market? Again, if those investors today do not buy Bitcoin, then when Bitcoin becomes more bullish in the future, your purchasing power will decrease further. So it is better to start investing now.

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