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February 14, 2026, 01:29:48 PM
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I think the point is to hold Bitcoin for the long term, not just to buy and sell once you make a profit, and I think that's correct. Although it still requires learning, the main thing is that we need to have a plan to hold Bitcoin for the long term, regardless of whatever strategy we use. I believe it will be very profitable in the future.

Yes, long-term holding is a good idea because investing isn't trading. Therefore, holding btc long-term certainly has the potential for higher profits, and the advantage is that we don't have to monitor the market. I also often hear people regret not holding BTC long-term because they always sell their btC when they see a profit, even if it's small. The person who regrets this is the one who bought btC in 2015.

However, everyone has different opinions on this matter, and for those who enjoy trading, I think there's nothing wrong with consistently making a profit. However, it's clear that long-term BTC investors consistently achieve substantial returns
Since Bitcoin is not a quick to get rich soon, for investors to be in good profits they need to hold their Bitcoin investments for at least one circle because that is the ideal way good profits in Bitcoin investment is very much achievable, and there is no short cut to making good profits in Bitcoin investment than holding your Bitcoin for a very long time. Bitcoin is an asset that grows in price in the long run, so if anyone sells his/her Bitcoin because of little profit, the person will surely regret his actions in the future when the price of Bitcoin gets to the point where the person would have become a millionaire. That is why we were advised never to sell our Bitcoin investments for small profits so that we will not leave in regret.
Those that are into bitcoin investment with the mindset of making quick profit are actually gambling with bitcoin and these people are not investors but rather gamblers.
Holding bitcoin for a long term has proven to be more rewarding than trading it or holding for short term. Those that are into bitcoin with the mindset of making quick profit may end up losing there money. Trading bitcoin is more risky than holding bitcoin for long term. However long term holding doesn't guarantee successful returns as you make it looks.

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February 14, 2026, 03:45:44 PM
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I think the point is to hold Bitcoin for the long term, not just to buy and sell once you make a profit, and I think that's correct. Although it still requires learning, the main thing is that we need to have a plan to hold Bitcoin for the long term, regardless of whatever strategy we use. I believe it will be very profitable in the future.

Yes, long-term holding is a good idea because investing isn't trading. Therefore, holding btc long-term certainly has the potential for higher profits, and the advantage is that we don't have to monitor the market. I also often hear people regret not holding BTC long-term because they always sell their btC when they see a profit, even if it's small. The person who regrets this is the one who bought btC in 2015.

However, everyone has different opinions on this matter, and for those who enjoy trading, I think there's nothing wrong with consistently making a profit. However, it's clear that long-term BTC investors consistently achieve substantial returns
Since Bitcoin is not a quick to get rich soon, for investors to be in good profits they need to hold their Bitcoin investments for at least one circle because that is the ideal way good profits in Bitcoin investment is very much achievable, and there is no short cut to making good profits in Bitcoin investment than holding your Bitcoin for a very long time. Bitcoin is an asset that grows in price in the long run, so if anyone sells his/her Bitcoin because of little profit, the person will surely regret his actions in the future when the price of Bitcoin gets to the point where the person would have become a millionaire. That is why we were advised never to sell our Bitcoin investments for small profits so that we will not leave in regret.

Those that are into bitcoin investment with the mindset of making quick profit are actually gambling with bitcoin and these people are not investors but rather gamblers.
Holding bitcoin for a long term has proven to be more rewarding than trading it or holding for short term. Those that are into bitcoin with the mindset of making quick profit may end up losing there money. Trading bitcoin is more risky than holding bitcoin for long term. However long term holding doesn't guarantee successful returns as you make it looks.

People with that kind of mindset you don't argue with them when they become part of the system they are left with choices to make is either they sell and rest or continue and understand the fact that it is not a get rich quick scheme and they should not be new to things like this because when you don't understand how other markets work then the knowledge of this one is a compulsory one to get because from the beginning when your research is done properly you won't have any problem with the conditions of the market and with what is even happening now a lot of people are suppose to focus on buying the dip and holding that is how it is suppose to be, for does with the knowledge they know exactly what to do in every step they are taking so it is very much okay for people to know what they want to do when they start investing and not to invest blindly.











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February 14, 2026, 03:47:26 PM
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There is no ideal time to invest in Bitcoin because Bitcoin cannot go so low to the price that will be suitable for you to invest in Bitcoin. The best time to invest in Bitcoin is today and another best time to invest in Bitcoin is tomorrow. If investors feels that the price of Bitcoin is too high for them to invest in Bitcoin they can adopt the DCA method to accumulate Bitcoin, and the DCA method will still give them a chance to even buy Bitcoin in the dip if there is a crash in the price of Bitcoin during their investment process.

Bitcoin price is unpredictable and its very hard to predict the future price of Bitcoin. Anyone who is following Bitcoin for last two years can figure out that just four months ago price of Bitcoin was $120,000 and now it is half of that price. Old users can see themselves that its good opportunity to buy Bitcoin.

If you have no coin then any time is best to start your Bitcoin accumulation journey because you have to start from some point. The number of Bitcoins you have is an important factor that tells you when to buy and when to take a break. Those who have adequate number of Bitcoins may take a break while price is high i.e. $120,000 but current price of $69,000 is ideal for everyone to buy Bitcoins.      

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February 14, 2026, 04:33:57 PM
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Since Bitcoin is not a quick to get rich soon, for investors to be in good profits they need to hold their Bitcoin investments for at least one circle because that is the ideal way good profits in Bitcoin investment is very much achievable, and there is no short cut to making good profits in Bitcoin investment than holding your Bitcoin for a very long time. Bitcoin is an asset that grows in price in the long run, so if anyone sells his/her Bitcoin because of little profit, the person will surely regret his actions in the future when the price of Bitcoin gets to the point where the person would have become a millionaire. That is why we were advised never to sell our Bitcoin investments for small profits so that we will not leave in regret.
There is no need to confuse the time of Bitcoin investment with the cycle. This will make it difficult for new investors to set a time horizon . In investing in Bitcoin, you should start with the mentality of investing for a minimum of 4 years or more. Later, depending on your position, the time and amount of investment can be increased.

If someone wants to invest only for profit, then he can do dca for a minimum of 4 years. But if someone wants to invest in Bitcoin for financial security, then he will sell his Bitcoin holding when he feels that he should sell it depending on his financial situation and lifestyle . It may be 4 years or more. But I do not think that there is a need to think about market cycles at the beginning of investment.

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February 14, 2026, 05:11:56 PM
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There are still investors who practice trading, but what they do is to invest in bitcoin with the idea of a long-term investment, but when they see that the price of bitcoin has skyrocketed so high they tend to take profits and still continues hodling for a long term. Anyone who thinks that bitcoin is a get rich quick scheme must be joking because how much bitcoin can they be able to buy that will guarantee them a short-term massive profit that will make them rich so quick.
Any investors that buys bitcoin for the long term and sells within 0-4 years is a trader. If an investor buy bitcoin and sells once the price starts moving higher iare not investors but short term traders. Long term investors are not driven by short term profits or quick profits but by a long term substantial profits. There are no fastest lanes to make money substantial profits fromm bitcoin the only way is to investing consistently and hold for the long-term.
I am finding it definitely hard to see call it half a decade Bitcoin investment as trading. Within these circle a lot would have taken place (a full market circle). A four years or half a decade Bitcoin investment circle is for sure medium term which is not a joke. On that span, some people might be able to achieve there investment target.

Bitcoin investment should be considered for longer years and a lifetime investment, however Half a decade Bitcoin investment is not a joke and not similar to quick gains.
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February 14, 2026, 05:21:32 PM
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If someone wants to invest only for profit, then he can do dca for a minimum of 4 years. But if someone wants to invest in Bitcoin for financial security, then he will sell his Bitcoin holding when he feels that he should sell it depending on his financial situation and lifestyle . It may be 4 years or more. But I do not think that there is a need to think about market cycles at the beginning of investment.
Investing for a period of four years doesn't guarantees profit mate, even though their is a huge potential of making a profit from your Bitcoin investment, but investing for four solid years is not a long term investment since it's just a single circle, and in that short space of time, that wouldn't do anything much to your financial status, unlike someone that accumulated for a period of 10years or more.

Then as for financial security you spoke of, I think you don't really understand what financial security means because you shouldn't be saying that selling your bitcoin anytime you want is financial security.
Financial security is when someone has enough resources and various investments  that safeguard and guarantees his future, not what you are saying here.

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February 14, 2026, 05:59:53 PM
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I think the point is to hold Bitcoin for the long term, not just to buy and sell once you make a profit, and I think that's correct. Although it still requires learning, the main thing is that we need to have a plan to hold Bitcoin for the long term, regardless of whatever strategy we use. I believe it will be very profitable in the future.

Yes, long-term holding is a good idea because investing isn't trading. Therefore, holding btc long-term certainly has the potential for higher profits, and the advantage is that we don't have to monitor the market. I also often hear people regret not holding BTC long-term because they always sell their btC when they see a profit, even if it's small. The person who regrets this is the one who bought btC in 2015.

However, everyone has different opinions on this matter, and for those who enjoy trading, I think there's nothing wrong with consistently making a profit. However, it's clear that long-term BTC investors consistently achieve substantial returns
Since Bitcoin is not a quick to get rich soon, for investors to be in good profits they need to hold their Bitcoin investments for at least one circle because that is the ideal way good profits in Bitcoin investment is very much achievable, and there is no short cut to making good profits in Bitcoin investment than holding your Bitcoin for a very long time. Bitcoin is an asset that grows in price in the long run, so if anyone sells his/her Bitcoin because of little profit, the person will surely regret his actions in the future when the price of Bitcoin gets to the point where the person would have become a millionaire. That is why we were advised never to sell our Bitcoin investments for small profits so that we will not leave in regret.
Bitcoin beginners can start investing from any position, because getting started is the biggest hurdle. At the same time, it can be assumed that no one with common sense would want to intentionally lose money. In fact, investing in Bitcoin pushes many to learn more about Bitcoin and strengthen their cash flow management methods and habits, which is a positive aspect in the long run. However, it is not easy to find regular time to learn, whether it is 3–4 hours a week or some other specific time. In many cases, this lack of learning causes them to either slow down their Bitcoin deposits, stop, or sell large portions too quickly. I cannot say for sure how to completely prevent everyone from making mistakes. However, it is clear that those who invest in Bitcoin are usually interested in learning about Bitcoin and strengthening their cash flow management methods. This learning process can ultimately help reduce mistakes, although it cannot completely eliminate them.

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February 14, 2026, 06:04:02 PM
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Trading is another way of making profit in bitcoin and their is nothing wrong with it, whoever sees it interesting to do it is the person choice. It is just a way of making some small bulks but some people miss understand because of lack of knowledge. Trading and investing are two different thing. Investment is a long-term journey and that comes with good profit. It is better to choose trading if you want quick profit but some people thinks bitcoin investment is one that yields quick profit.

For a fact, trading will generate you profit but to what extent, those short term profit might also be quick short term losses as well, why putting yourself on unnecessary pressures of monitoring the market every moves, even the so called trading expert uses student as a leverage while on losses. Though, I understand every person is wired differently, some feels the complicated choices are worth doing and might give you huge profit return, while other feels the smart choices are worth looking into. We all gonna learn one way or the other.
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February 14, 2026, 06:06:34 PM
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Bruh, I go can’t even relate to your message clearly, are you trying to defend some reason over another why people decide to trade ?? Because it seems like it is what you’re doing man.

Btw you should know that regardless of what is making anybody trade rather that making responsible investment decide is just a result of a very very poor mindset, if they have got the right mindset about Bitcoin, and why people has chosen to accumulate rather than just gambling with it, then they would not be stuck with that impatience thing.
So let’s not make it be about defending reasons, it should be about fixing the mindset behind those action.

You're right we don't necessarily need to make excuses for those that chose to trade even though  surely they are doing it for a reason Best known to them even at that we don't need to defend them because that mindset of trading Bitcoin is not actually a good one so making excuses for them means that we are in support of the wrong mindset they are having, if we keep making excuses for  them definitely they can't stop going having that wrong mindset. However, I Know it's individuals choice to decide how much Bitcoin which they also have the right to decide how long they will hold it but the best advice I could give to anyone is to focus on the long term rather than trading.

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February 14, 2026, 06:17:20 PM
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There are still investors who practice trading, but what they do is to invest in bitcoin with the idea of a long-term investment, but when they see that the price of bitcoin has skyrocketed so high they tend to take profits and still continues hodling for a long term. Anyone who thinks that bitcoin is a get rich quick scheme must be joking because how much bitcoin can they be able to buy that will guarantee them a short-term massive profit that will make them rich so quick.
Any investors that buys bitcoin for the long term and sells within 0-4 years is a trader. If an investor buy bitcoin and sells once the price starts moving higher iare not investors but short term traders. Long term investors are not driven by short term profits or quick profits but by a long term substantial profits. There are no fastest lanes to make money substantial profits fromm bitcoin the only way is to investing consistently and hold for the long-term.

Perhaps you should have said 0-2 years because sometimes this interval of time Bitcoin can be correcting, orbiting around a particular price and taken profit at this interval or period of time can be seen as trading and may I also inform you that there is no such thing as short term investors and I believe some folks here and  JJG has said something about it that " they are not short term investors" but rather they are traders or gamblers and some of these folks ( traders) don't use their discretionary and that is why they are always in a haste to make profit.

 
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February 14, 2026, 07:19:50 PM
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I think the point is to hold Bitcoin for the long term, not just to buy and sell once you make a profit, and I think that's correct. Although it still requires learning, the main thing is that we need to have a plan to hold Bitcoin for the long term, regardless of whatever strategy we use. I believe it will be very profitable in the future.

Yes, long-term holding is a good idea because investing isn't trading. Therefore, holding btc long-term certainly has the potential for higher profits, and the advantage is that we don't have to monitor the market. I also often hear people regret not holding BTC long-term because they always sell their btC when they see a profit, even if it's small. The person who regrets this is the one who bought btC in 2015.

However, everyone has different opinions on this matter, and for those who enjoy trading, I think there's nothing wrong with consistently making a profit. However, it's clear that long-term BTC investors consistently achieve substantial returns
Since Bitcoin is not a quick to get rich soon, for investors to be in good profits they need to hold their Bitcoin investments for at least one circle because that is the ideal way good profits in Bitcoin investment is very much achievable, and there is no short cut to making good profits in Bitcoin investment than holding your Bitcoin for a very long time. Bitcoin is an asset that grows in price in the long run, so if anyone sells his/her Bitcoin because of little profit, the person will surely regret his actions in the future when the price of Bitcoin gets to the point where the person would have become a millionaire. That is why we were advised never to sell our Bitcoin investments for small profits so that we will not leave in regret.
I don't think that 4 years is enough to make a good profit as you said. From the bitcoin history, the longer is always better. 4 years from 2009 bitcoin closed at $760 from less than $1 in 2009. But 4 years later in 2017 bitcoin was at above $19k. In 2021 bitcoin  reached an all time high of over $67k and last year 2025, bitcoin went above 160% increase and peaked at $126k. Since this is what the record has for us, I will say that bitcoin price gets better over time and in 2029 we may experience a mind blowing price. Selling after 4 years will not be long until you have regretted selling your bitcoin after only 4 years. Some people that started bitcoin since behind 2013 or even 2017 will be very happy now no matter how the price is going.

I also saw that in 2014, the price of bitcoin went as low as below $1 even after closing at $760 in 2013. But even after going that low, it still regained it's strength, so we should be assured that bitcoin will not disappoint and rushing to sell your own will make you to regret later.

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February 14, 2026, 08:06:36 PM
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I think the point is to hold Bitcoin for the long term, not just to buy and sell once you make a profit, and I think that's correct. Although it still requires learning, the main thing is that we need to have a plan to hold Bitcoin for the long term, regardless of whatever strategy we use. I believe it will be very profitable in the future.

Yes, long-term holding is a good idea because investing isn't trading. Therefore, holding btc long-term certainly has the potential for higher profits, and the advantage is that we don't have to monitor the market. I also often hear people regret not holding BTC long-term because they always sell their btC when they see a profit, even if it's small. The person who regrets this is the one who bought btC in 2015.

However, everyone has different opinions on this matter, and for those who enjoy trading, I think there's nothing wrong with consistently making a profit. However, it's clear that long-term BTC investors consistently achieve substantial returns
Since Bitcoin is not a quick to get rich soon, for investors to be in good profits they need to hold their Bitcoin investments for at least one circle because that is the ideal way good profits in Bitcoin investment is very much achievable, and there is no short cut to making good profits in Bitcoin investment than holding your Bitcoin for a very long time. Bitcoin is an asset that grows in price in the long run, so if anyone sells his/her Bitcoin because of little profit, the person will surely regret his actions in the future when the price of Bitcoin gets to the point where the person would have become a millionaire. That is why we were advised never to sell our Bitcoin investments for small profits so that we will not leave in regret.
Panic buying and selling is a bad idea in business. In the process of selling while you are in a panic mood can make you to regret tomorrow. Yes BTC is having difficulties now but selling in this period might result to you not realizing the capital you invested. All we need do is to hold on a bit, this is just the first quarter of the year,but by the third quarter of the year BTC will pick up.
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February 14, 2026, 08:12:08 PM
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I am finding it definitely hard to see call it half a decade Bitcoin investment as trading. Within these circle a lot would have taken place (a full market circle). A four years or half a decade Bitcoin investment circle is for sure medium term which is not a joke. On that span, some people might be able to achieve there investment target.

Bitcoin investment should be considered for longer years and a lifetime investment, however Half a decade Bitcoin investment is not a joke and not similar to quick gains.
It depends on the individual and when they want to reach their target because there are people who have already accumulated enough bitcoin and all what they are doing now is just to hold and not to accumulate anymore. A cycle or half a decade investment is not a long term investment in my opinion but it depends on the age of the investor, if he is approaching a retirement age then he might just invest for few years but a young person can invest for more than a decade since they still have a long time before they reach a retirement age.

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February 14, 2026, 09:00:41 PM
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The reason traders trade is not really because of greed rather the reason they trade is because of impatient and they are eager to make money don't get it twisted because someone can decide to trade not necessary because of greed but because he lacks the ability to wait for a long period of time and sometimes it is not because they are ignorant of the fact that what they are doing is risky or the fact that long term is the goal but they don't regard all these things because of quick profit ( impatient) Wich is not even sure.

It’s certain that those set of person that decide to trade lacks patience to wait for the result of a long term goal, out of lack of patience as you’ve said and desperation they decide to trade, what you should understand is that, emotion and greed are factors that will make you take irrational decisions while trading, once you’ve done your analysis and the market goes against your prediction, emotion kicks in, you’ll want to recover that which you’ve lost and then greed as well plays it part by making you trade beyond your reserve fund just to get back your lose. But while investing, you don’t put your self in such unnecessary pressure by monitoring the market volatility, as long as you’ve got your goals set out and your discretionary funds available, you’re set with less worries.
Well everything too also  comes down to our  self control. Yes trading is very risky and traders who don't have good trading physcology are ones who lose the most especially when they are doing revenge trading. Even investors told also fall short especially those who don't have self control often lose focus along the way where they see small gain or panicking due to price dips or buy aggressively due to fear of missing out. Whereby they use up their entire savings on Bitcoin not remembering they still have other expenses to sort out. Without good discipline,  both trader and investors can make wrong decisions. The market usually test our patients and emotions, so it is those who have clear plan and stick to it that survives being at lose.
The most important thing to understand before you start investing in Bitcoin is your financial situation and the state of your back-up funds. If you don’t have enough funds and are in a situation where you need to borrow money, then you are probably not living within your means and not generating enough discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin. For this reason, it is important to properly assess yourself before you start investing so that you don’t run out of your emergency fund and end up selling your Bitcoin. Starting with small amounts, such as small weekly or monthly investments, allows you to accumulate Bitcoin steadily over the long term. At the same time, you can build up both your emergency fund and Bitcoin, so that you maintain your financial security. In the long term, this protects you from situations where you may have to sell your investments for the next 10 years or more. For some people, this long-term plan can take up to 20 years to implement, but it keeps their investments safe and sustainable.

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February 14, 2026, 10:06:43 PM
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Traders don't trade because they are afraid of some kind things they trade because of greed and also they want to make quick gain or profit thinking that short term in bitcoin is were they can make more money, but they forgot to know that the little gain they may get in trading BTC can never be match with when they actually keep buying BTC and hodl for a longer period of time, the risk in trading is much higher I don't know of traders knows this.

The reason traders trade is not really because of greed rather the reason they trade is because of impatient and they are eager to make money don't get it twisted because someone can decide to trade not necessary because of greed but because he lacks the ability to wait for a long period of time and sometimes it is not because they are ignorant of the fact that what they are doing is risky or the fact that long term is the goal but they don't regard all these things because of quick profit ( impatient) Wich is not even sure.
Bruh, I go can’t even relate to your message clearly, are you trying to defend some reason over another why people decide to trade ?? Because it seems like it is what you’re doing man.

Btw you should know that regardless of what is making anybody trade rather that making responsible investment decide is just a result of a very very poor mindset, if they have got the right mindset about Bitcoin, and why people has chosen to accumulate rather than just gambling with it, then they would not be stuck with that impatience thing.
So let’s not make it be about defending reasons, it should be about fixing the mindset behind those action.

In addition are you not aware that those investors that are selling currently are regretting it because investors are not buying at a favourable price  form the sellers which will to be profitable, which is now a great concern for the sellers and this will make you not to have a good return in future of your investment, will even slow down the number of years you wish to get to your over accumulation stage, so if it will not be profitable and beneficial to you now and in future, why are you selling your investment.

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February 14, 2026, 10:23:53 PM
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I am finding it definitely hard to see call it half a decade Bitcoin investment as trading. Within these circle a lot would have taken place (a full market circle). A four years or half a decade Bitcoin investment circle is for sure medium term which is not a joke. On that span, some people might be able to achieve there investment target.

Bitcoin investment should be considered for longer years and a lifetime investment, however Half a decade Bitcoin investment is not a joke and not similar to quick gains.
It depends on the individual and when they want to reach their target because there are people who have already accumulated enough bitcoin and all what they are doing now is just to hold and not to accumulate anymore. A cycle or half a decade investment is not a long term investment in my opinion but it depends on the age of the investor, if he is approaching a retirement age then he might just invest for few years but a young person can invest for more than a decade since they still have a long time before they reach a retirement age.

Everyone with their accumulation goal . So Mr A and Mr B investment plan can be totally different , but the truth is that the only way you can enjoy Bitcoin investment is when you go into it for longterm purposes . Because I’d not get rich quick scheme is more of a building and yielding later in the future.

So when come to bitcoin their different phases we have the accumulation, holding and selling phases which sir JJ have mentioned before , so the particular phase you are now boils down to you .

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Any investors that buys bitcoin for the long term and sells within 0-4 years is a trader. If an investor buy bitcoin and sells once the price starts moving higher iare not investors but short term traders. Long term investors are not driven by short term profits or quick profits but by a long term substantial profits. There are no fastest lanes to make money substantial profits fromm bitcoin the only way is to investing consistently and hold for the long-term.
In my opinion, holding it for 4 years doesn't qualify as trading because 4 years isn't a short time.

Even if there is likely some semantical element to the argument, you seem to not sufficiently appreciate the difference between investing and trading.

Sure, 4 years likely feels like a long time for guys who are not used to investing, yet maybe you should try to imagine some potential scenarios that guys might buy bitcoin (or even spend 4 years accumulating bitcoin) and then maybe they have saved up enough value (or bitcoin had appreciated), so that they have some target thing that they want to buy or some target place that they want to put their bitcoin value, so then they sell all of their bitcoin and they put the value into the other thing... they then end up as a no coiner to the extent that they had sold everything or perhaps a low coiner to the extent that they greatly undermined their earlier bitcoin stash.. to put themselves into such a status of not having very many coins.

I doubt that you resolve the issue of "investing" versus "trading" merely by the passage of time, even though surely time is an element of investing (and trading too).

However, I think someone who invests for around 4 years can be considered an investor, but not a long-term investor.

You might need to explore your own ideas if you think that the mere passage of time (such as 4 years) in itself will cause a person to become an investor rather than a trader, even if he might buy bitcoin for some pure purpose of being able to buy a lambo.,, and sure there are a variety of examples that could be used to show a person getting in and out of bitcoin on a longer timeline (even greater than 4 years), yet still largely just engaging in a trade.

Trading doesn't require 4 years, but if it's just a day, a week, or a month, it can be considered trading.

You seem to be having difficulties with the idea that a trade could be long term..

And, there are even some guys who label their trading activities as an investment, since they may well be building up the size of their trading account and consider their building up of such a trading account to be an investment, so terms can end up overlapping, and even causing confusion in regards to assessing various factors that might come to play when someone is putting time, energy and value into something like bitcoin... We likely cannot be dogmatic about these concepts in our attempt to figure out our own objectives or potentially the objectives of others when they are building up their portfolios and even calculating the value of their portfolio in various ways.. in terms of dollars, bitcoin and/or perhaps even other assets that they might include in the portfolio.

However, this is my opinion, as I don't know much about trading and investing.

You have a strong opinion for "not knowing much" about the ideas.

However, the best option is to hold BTC for more than 10 years because the potential profits are much greater compared to investing for just 4 years, or one cycle. However, in reality, many people are tempted when BTC hits a new ATH and end up selling it immediately. However, if you can hold it for the long term, more than 10 years, you are a great investor.

Price run-ups can happen just a few months after a person got involved in bitcoin or they can end up happening at various points along the way, including that in 10 years, there could have had been more than 10 price run-ups.

So maybe guys are not always tempted to sell some or all of their bitcoin stash.

Also the BTC price could go shooting up several times its value, but then the part that starts to get a guy to become motivated to sell is when the BTC price is correcting back down, so in that context, the guy starts to think about how much value he is ongoingly losing when the BTC price is going down, so he might end up selling some or all of his BTC based on a motivation of loss aversion.

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February 14, 2026, 11:54:17 PM
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Traders don't trade because they are afraid of some kind things they trade because of greed and also they want to make quick gain or profit thinking that short term in bitcoin is were they can make more money, but they forgot to know that the little gain they may get in trading BTC can never be match with when they actually keep buying BTC and hodl for a longer period of time, the risk in trading is much higher I don't know of traders knows this.

The reason traders trade is not really because of greed rather the reason they trade is because of impatient and they are eager to make money don't get it twisted because someone can decide to trade not necessary because of greed but because he lacks the ability to wait for a long period of time and sometimes it is not because they are ignorant of the fact that what they are doing is risky or the fact that long term is the goal but they don't regard all these things because of quick profit ( impatient) Wich is not even sure.
Bruh, I go can’t even relate to your message clearly, are you trying to defend some reason over another why people decide to trade ?? Because it seems like it is what you’re doing man.

Btw you should know that regardless of what is making anybody trade rather that making responsible investment decide is just a result of a very very poor mindset, if they have got the right mindset about Bitcoin, and why people has chosen to accumulate rather than just gambling with it, then they would not be stuck with that impatience thing.
So let’s not make it be about defending reasons, it should be about fixing the mindset behind those action.

In addition are you not aware that those investors that are selling currently are regretting it because investors are not buying at a favourable price  form the sellers which will to be profitable, which is now a great concern for the sellers and this will make you not to have a good return in future of your investment, will even slow down the number of years you wish to get to your over accumulation stage, so if it will not be profitable and beneficial to you now and in future, why are you selling your investment.


That's why I say Bitcoin should be held for a long time according to plan, because those who hold Bitcoin for a long time are the best investors because they follow the DCA method according to their plan. Bitcoin is the best that's why they buy the most Bitcoin by dumping, and they have a high chance of success. No matter how much you plan, Bitcoin investors who are selling now are basically fools, but should take the opportunity to buy instead of selling.
Because there may not be such an opportunity to buy Bitcoin in the future, those who buy Bitcoin at the present time and hold for a long time will be the best opportunists.

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Also the BTC price could go shooting up several times its value, but then the part that starts to get a guy to become motivated to sell is when the BTC price is correcting back down, so in that context, the guy starts to think about how much value he is ongoingly losing when the BTC price is going down, so he might end up selling some or all of his BTC based on a motivation of loss aversion.
This is the realist statement towards reasons why people sell that I’ve heard in this forum, of course it’s not the fact that we are in bear market that lead people to sell but most time it’s because people have seen a good amount that bitcoin price doubling has brought they are not mentally ready to loss the money which basically is not theirs but what bitcoin brought them but are afraid to endure seeing it go down with the correction of bitcoin.

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That's why I say Bitcoin should be held for a long time according to plan, because those who hold Bitcoin for a long time are the best investors because they follow the DCA method according to their plan. Bitcoin is the best that's why they buy the most Bitcoin by dumping, and they have a high chance of success. No matter how much you plan, Bitcoin investors who are selling now are basically fools, but should take the opportunity to buy instead of selling.
Because there may not be such an opportunity to buy Bitcoin in the future, those who buy Bitcoin at the present time and hold for a long time will be the best opportunists.

To some extent, you’re right. A good Bitcoin investor has goal set out, steps to actualize that goal, being persistent and consistent in his Bitcoin accumulation and has a long term plan. One of the major reason investors go into Bitcoin accumulation is because of the profit they’re going to get at the long run, now let’s see it from this perspective, as an investor, you have an emergency funds saved up, a discretionary funds for your consistent Bitcoin accumulation and a reserve fund for expenses or entertainment, then this investor encounter a life threatening situation, probably he got ill or family issues and his emergency funds is not enough to handle such issue then he sells some of his holdings from his Bitcoin stash to be able to solve that issue while Bitcoin price is on a bear, would you consider that investor a fool as you’ve said ?

This is the realist statement towards reasons why people sell that I’ve heard in this forum, of course it’s not the fact that we are in bear market that lead people to sell but most time it’s because people have seen a good amount that bitcoin price doubling has brought they are not mentally ready to loss the money which basically is not theirs but what bitcoin brought them but are afraid to endure seeing it go down with the correction of bitcoin.

Investors with this mindset are basically trader or they didn’t invested with their discretionary funds and are not willing to let go of the little profit they’ve gotten. There’s a reason it’s called Bitcoin investment, there are times your investment wouldn’t go as plan but take some period of correction as Sir JJG would say, this times would test your perseverance on your Bitcoin accumulation, if you’re still dogmatic on Bitcoin.

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