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April 18, 2019, 05:43:30 AM
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Easiest way to grow your BTC and $$$. 5 to 15% per month profit. risk free passive & stable income.

So I have a proposal to anybody having at least 0.5BTC and interested in the easiest passive and stable income that you will come across. Please read everything below carefully to understand what i am offering.

I have developed a trading system that trades 24/7 and brings in at least 10% to 30% per month profits (we share 50/50. Which means 5% to 15% profit each).

This is the easiest passive income because the only thing you need to have is an account with an exchange and BTC to start trading. You need not invest in any software or hardware or servers or bots. Also you need not worry about all the technical analysis and making decisions for buying and selling. I will take care of that.

This is also stable income because we will not be doing risky trades by trying to catch trends. And we don't keep all the money in one basket but distribute the trades among several coins.

Risk free because you are not handing out money to anybody. You are not buying anything. The money stays with you in your account and you are in control. You just provide me with the API keys with withdrawal disabled. The money never goes out of your account unless you withdraw. And you are free to disable the API keys to stop even the trading whenever you want.

The minimum BTC for starting trading is 0.5 BTC. Anything less than that is not worth my time, effort or resources. The maximum is up to you. I will be taking limited number of people depending on the amount they are interested to put into this.

However, I understand that you may want to test it out and see it working before you put in that money. So there is 1 month test period available for anyone wanting to test this, where you can start with some test amount >=0.05BTC. (From 2nd month should be >= 0.5BTC.) The results of this test month will be made public here for everyone to see and updated everyday to track and show how the system is working. You can convert to normal account whenever you are ready even during the test period. Normal account profits are kept private unless you want to make them public.

I am currently working with binance exchange. if you do not have an account with binance you can create one. I will expand to other exchanges based on interest.

Some important things to remember:
  • Once you have given me the API keys and trading has started from my side, you shouldn't trade yourself in the same account. Because that will create conflicts between my system and your trades. If the system detects any such conflict, it immediately stops trading and intimates me. if you do this, I will stop trading and can't work with you.
  • We will be trading altcoins and will see +ve profits almost everyday. However, BTC price affects all other coins in the market. If BTC price fluctuates heavily in a day, altcoin prices go down irrespective of whether BTC price goes up or down. That is how crypto market works. So you should be patient if this happens to you during especially the first week of your trading and the profits show negative. Because that will be temporary and we will be back on track again. If BTC doesn't fluctuate much during the day we will rarely see any losses
  • You can keep track of what is happening in your account by logging in to binance any time and checking the trade history.
  • Every week we calculate the profits for that week and you send my 50% profit share. If you don't send my share, I will stop trading for your account.
  • If you try to cheat me i will never do business with you again.
If you have any more questions please ask.

If you are ready to start, message below with the following details.

Binance verified account?: Yes/no
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April 18, 2019, 07:21:55 PM
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Do you want a transparent thread? Then remove this:

" This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. "

let people post their opinions freely, to find out if you're honest and really can be trusted or not.

if your method is very good, why do you need 50% of other people? you could invest 1 BTC and you would not need to work for other people

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April 18, 2019, 07:46:42 PM
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Do you want a transparent thread? Then remove this:

" This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. "

let people post their opinions freely, to find out if you're honest and really can be trusted or not.

I guess I had mistaken self moderation to be transparency. I wanted to answer all the questions and comments on the thread without anybody deleting them. Which is why i marked it as self moderated. Yours is the first reply here and after your comment i tried to remove self moderation but i don't see that option anymore. If any mod can remove that, that would be great

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if your method is very good, why do you need 50% of other people? you could invest 1 BTC and you would not need to work for other people

20 BTC at 10%/month is faster profits than 1BTC at 20% per month. You can calculate how exponential profits work and check for yourself.
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April 18, 2019, 10:57:32 PM
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I guess I had mistaken self moderation to be transparency. I wanted to answer all the questions and comments on the thread without anybody deleting them. Which is why i marked it as self moderated. Yours is the first reply here and after your comment i tried to remove self moderation but i don't see that option anymore. If any mod can remove that, that would be great
Lock this thread and create a new one with your proposal to be more transparent. Just remember not to "check" the box where is written "Self-moderated".

And if I'm not wrong then I think you should create the thread in Securities board.
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April 18, 2019, 11:23:03 PM
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And if I'm not wrong then I think you should create the thread in Securities board.

I am checking it out. Will think about this and wait for more opinions because with what i am doing people don't need to give out money but keep it with themselves. I only trade. So not sure if this comes under security investment.

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Lock this thread and create a new one with your proposal to be more transparent. Just remember not to "check" the box where is written "Self-moderated".
I will do this once the above is confirmed.
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April 20, 2019, 12:58:07 PM
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I have created a Google sheets document to track daily profits. This is available publicly for everyone to view.

You can see it here. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wn0ejWtlumelHLOdjJNR-H9Vl3OtcO6nwnKox5--ZnY
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April 20, 2019, 10:47:10 PM
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Risk free is probably inaccurate. I can't see how this is free from risk...

Why not just be patient and do it yourself? It would only take you several months longer to get the same amount as 20 accounts with 10 BTC, and then you don't risk the platform detecting this (I mean, 20 different accounts all trading the same signals? Isn't that a ref flag any basic algorithm can detect?).

Or go on BitMex and use 100x leverage on margin trading? Keep the profits to yourself 100%.

Just a suggestion, if you're as profitable as that, keep your money, don't share it =)


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April 21, 2019, 12:52:07 AM
Last edit: April 21, 2019, 01:03:54 AM by btcamp
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Risk free is probably inaccurate. I can't see how this is free from risk...

You say that. But give no reason / explanation for why you think this is not risk free.

My explanation is this. You are in control of your funds and your account. You disable withdrawal. You can disable trading with one click by disabling the API if you find something fishy from my side in the trading. I don't see anything more risk free than that. If you can give me a valid explanation of why you still think this is risky I would be happy to address that.

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Why not just be patient and do it yourself? It would only take you several months longer to get the same amount as 20 accounts with 10 BTC,
 

If nobody is interested then that is happening anyway.
 
But why would i want to wait an year if i can make more BTC now? It becomes harder and harder to accumulate BTC as the price grows. And BTC price does grow. I don't want to feel sorry later for not doing this now.

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Just a suggestion, if you're as profitable as that, keep your money, don't share it =)

If you are making bigger and faster profits by sharing  with others than keeping it to yourselves, then what's wrong with sharing it with others? I don't understand that logic.
Also, i am not giving out my trading methods or the system and code i have developed. That stays with me. I am only sharing the profits.

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and then you don't risk the platform detecting this (I mean, 20 different accounts all trading the same signals? Isn't that a ref flag any basic algorithm can detect?).

You make it sound like this is something illegal/unethical. It is not.
Let me explain.
1. First of all, the signals i use are developed by myself. There are not one but multiple signals. Even if i trade for 100s of people that wouldn't be a problem because
2. There are thousands of people using other bots with  other signals from those bots and that isn't a problem either. You know why?
3. Because more importantly exchanges don't care. There are no "red flags" for using any signals. Because if many people are using the same signals then market will correct itself and such people using "signals" without understanding them will lose money. In fact exchanges encourage more people to trade because they will get more fees whether people make profits or losses. That is the reason API's exist in the first place.
So don't worry about any red flags.

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Or go on BitMex and use 100x leverage on margin trading? Keep the profits to yourself 100%.

It took me 1 and a half year to code and perfect the system with binance API. It'll at least take a couple of weeks to adapt the code to each new exchange. So i will have to look into what my options are.

I am currently focused on gathering people for this. Because that seemed like a good idea to me for better profits. I will start posting this on several forums and see the results. If people are not smart enough to understand what I am offering here, then at least I should be smart enough to ignore them and see what my next step is.
I will wait for some time to see if anyone is interested else i will move on. Your suggestion sounds good i will look into it.
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April 21, 2019, 01:38:16 AM
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Just a heads up: it's pretty easy to extract money from accounts even with withdraws locked.

 It's possible for a thief to wash trade between the victim account (with API address but withdrawals locked) and the thief's account on illiquid trading pairs (with large spreads between buy/sell price).

Some exchanges may monitor for this but the majority do not.
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April 21, 2019, 03:58:03 PM
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Just a heads up: it's pretty easy to extract money from accounts even with withdraws locked.

 It's possible for a thief to wash trade between the victim account (with API address but withdrawals locked) and the thief's account on illiquid trading pairs (with large spreads between buy/sell price).

Some exchanges may monitor for this but the majority do not.

There is no problem in trying to alert members to a possible scam. That is a good thing. But at least have some knowledge on what you are talking before doing that.

This person has zero idea what a wash trade is. Wash trades are beneficial to exchanges and brokers. Not to traders

From Wikipedia:
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A wash trade is a form of market manipulation in which an investor simultaneously sells and buys the same financial instruments to create misleading, artificial activity in the marketplace.[1] First, an investor will place a sell order, then place a buy order to buy from himself, or vice versa. This may be done for a number of reasons:
  • To artificially increase trading volume, giving the impression that the instrument is more in demand than it actually is.
  • To generate commission fees to brokers in order to compensate them for something that cannot be openly paid for. This was done by some of the participants in the Libor scandal.
 

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Wash trades are essentially trades that cancel each other out and have no commercial value, as such. But they are used in a variety of trading situations.
  • Wash trading is an illegal type of trading in which a broker and trader collude to make profits by feeding misleading information to the market.
  • High frequency trading firms and cryptocurrency exchanges use wash trading to manipulate prices.

Basically wash trading is quickly buying and selling a coin at the same price. this will always be a loss to the trader and profit to the exchange because of the exchange fees.

The only situation when this is beneficial to the trader is when the trader has tied up ("colluded" as mentioned above) with the exchange for two reasons:
1. to make it look like there is more volume on the exchange than actual volume.
2. Traders take share in the fee accumulated by the exchange during the wash trades.

Binance is currently the largest exchange by volume. Now even if I am taking in 40 members and trade with 20 BTC, that is many times less than even 1 minute volume being traded on binance to make any difference in the trading volume.

If you really think that an exchange like binance would tie up with somebody posting on a forum for people to trade with 0.5BTC each,  then you have to seriously question your sense of reality.
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April 23, 2019, 04:10:53 PM
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Make clear on title says this is your service and take this thread to services child board with brief explaination and show the proof with your previous experience on it. Since you are newbies people may ask how we can share our API to you?
So make answer for it in thread with the solution.
Then you could find the person for you on bitcointalk.

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April 23, 2019, 08:04:27 PM
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Make clear on title says this is your service and take this thread to services child board with brief explaination and show the proof with your previous experience on it. Since you are newbies people may ask how we can share our API to you?
So make answer for it in thread with the solution.
Then you could find the person for you on bitcointalk.

I have explained clearly above several times about the API keys. I will copy paste same thing again
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You are in control of your funds and your account. You disable withdrawal. You can disable trading with one click by disabling the API if you find something fishy from my side in the trading. I don't see anything more risk free than that. If you can give me a valid explanation of why you still think this is risky I would be happy to address that.

And you have a test month to see that the system works before getting in.
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