[FABLE] The Resurrection of YoBit

[shasan]

I reported 3x higher than usual, even though i usually only report spam on boards with very few spam.
It would be great to see amount of user banned, deleted post and total post made before and after YoBit Signature Campaign "resurrected".

I also wonder why they didn't bother add merit as requirement on their rules since they mention "Poor quality and unconstructive posts will not be tolerated on this campaign."

We should see a lot of ban for spamming to get payment from yobit. They have not mentioned merit requirement because they know only a few people got/getting merit. If they post merit requirement then they will not get sufficient participant. I hope they will get less benefit from their participant than us as we are promoting them by creating multiple topics about them which is negative but negative marketing can be one of the best marketing. ANd it is happening to them.

[Steamtyme]

I haven't even made my rounds but reported my first. It was a thread I created and the guy just dropped the same generic semi passable spam.

I'd say the most annoying part of this is that you need to be on these fools steady so they don't get paid for shitposts. Does anyone know when the daily counter gets reset? For most spam I tend do do a sweep on Thursday and Friday hoping to catch campaigns near cutoff days.

In regards to anyone wanting to wear the Sig for the campaign. I would say go for it as long as you aren't planning on being a spammy shitposter. Until the exchange has been proven to have scammed users, or can be proven to be a Ponzi, it's your decision if you want to promote them.

Moving forward if there becomes a consensus that they have proven themselves to be criminal, or have crossed the line of what the community can tolerate. I would say a warning be put out to anyone wearing the signature that they will be tagged for promoting Yobit. I don't believe we are there yet, I honestly don't know much about them at this time.

[FontSeli]

I will laugh for a long time if this strange exchange blocks the withdrawal of awards to some participants of the bounty campaign.
As YoBit did with the money of some of the people who traded on this exchange.

[FaucetKING]

If we had a better chance, we would really join other compaigns for sure.

Aha. But as long as you earn money, it doesn't matter if people get screwed over, does it?

Yobit having scam accusations didn't mean that they are really scammer.. Maybe they use '' selective scam '' but the scammed person's should shout out loud so we can hear them..

You mean one of the 200 topics that have been opened against them, and never resolved?

Just give us a chance to use their signature for the moment and if the other sig compaigns allows us to join and earn.. We would support em.. But many compaigns are providing unreal requirements.. We always put high efforts but no one ever gave us even 1 merit.(excuse me for being angry).. How the hell could us join good compaigns if they are putting hard requirements?.

Damn. Your version of entitledness doesn't match reality.

We found out that Yobit's sig compaign is the only one gaving us that rate so we will wear the signature and support them because it's a win-win for us and for them. When talking about the fear of spamming the forum,

Ofcourse, i mean who cares about the people getting scammed by Yobit, right?

the DT members could red-tag all the spammers if found.

DT should actually tag everyone wearing a Yobit signature, because YoBit is a scam exchange. It is no different than promoting a ponzi scheme, or other fraudulent activities.

No, that's not the issue. The issue would be advertising a scammy or shady website. There are a certain type of person that will advertise anything as long as there's money on the line. These people have no morals and just want to line their pockets at whatever the cost.You could be the forums greatest poster but if you'd happily promote a scam because you're being paid to you would have little morals imho. I'm sure many people are glad that there's a campaign they can easily jump on but you have to look at the bigger issue here and that's promoting spam and [potential] scams.

I'm inclined to agree.

I didn't get scammed before by Yobit.. The Accusation threads are not a proof unless the persons are really scammed and prove that. I relied on my own experience with them and i didn't get scammed, is that hard?
I don't even try to make their faces look like angels! I don't know how to respond to a person like you who's asking alot of questions..
Peoples aren't forced to signup into Yobit, even if somebody finds the link in one of the signatures, a research is a must! as you know: ''The law does not protect the dupes" ... I mean, i don't force peoples to join yobit.. And even peoples must make a research..if they do, they will findout about the issues and they are free to risk their funds and signup or to just walk away.. Don't try to make us responsible for the people's issues.. They trusted a platform which has an unknown owner.. and you still talking? -_-
Even some DT members had an experience with Yobit Signature, why did you just ask the DT members to Redtag us all?
Any solid proof you got there? because i only can see some comments on twitter but i didn't found like something that really makes the platform guilty .. and Again! I am not defending them and i only had like one day with them in the signature, i'll wait for the DT Members to annonce what they will do for the persons who joined the signature compaign.. if they asks us to remove the signature, we will remove it.

[AdolfinWolf]

-snip-

Seems like you didn't even look at my post, where i provided clear evidence and links of their fraudulent behavior..

Peoples aren't forced to signup into Yobit, even if somebody finds the link in one of the signatures, a research is a must! as you know: ''The law does not protect the dupes" ... I mean, i don't force peoples to join yobit.. And even peoples must make a research..if they do, they will findout about the issues and they are free to risk their funds and signup or to just walk away.. Don't try to make us responsible for the people's issues.. They trusted a platform which has an unknown owner.. and you still talking? -_-

You're advertising it in the goddamn signature. If it's a fraud, you're basically complicit in it.

i'll wait for the DT Members to annonce what they will do for the persons who joined the signature compaign.. if they asks us to remove the signature, we will remove it.

Ahh. So someone else has to determine whether or not what you're advertising is a scam in order for you to remove your signature.

You really have no morals at all, do you?

I didn't get scammed before by Yobit.. The Accusation threads are not a proof unless the persons are really scammed and prove that. I relied on my own experience with them and i didn't get scammed, is that hard?

[HCP]

Damn... Looks like I need to pay more attention... I used YoBit a loooooong time ago when I was selling some coins as they had the lowest fees at the time... I never had any issues with withdrawals etc.

However, it looks like they have totally sold out and are just doing whatever they can to make some $$$...

It does indeed look like they're just ramping up the advertising to try and capture more fools and part them from their money with these shady "investments"

I don't see this situation working out well for anybody... Forum looks like it is going to get inundated with 20 post/day "experts"... Participants are likely to get tagged as either spammers or spam promoters... Less educated users might fall for the "scams" being promoted

At least the campaign is limited to Sr. Member and up... That might make one or two users a bit more cautious as they stand to lose a bit if their account gets banned for spamming... Or tagged... As opposed to newbie/jr throwaway accounts.

[akamit]

Forum looks like it is going to get inundated with 20 post/day "experts"...

Check this guy and his post history.
If I could then I'd have made a list of these experts within an hour. Sadly, no spreadsheet to check, manual search would take some time.

Maybe Loyce can do it fast? 

[coinlocket$]

Forum looks like it is going to get inundated with 20 post/day "experts"...

Check this guy and his post history.
If I could then I'd have made a list of these experts within an hour. Sadly, no spreadsheet to check, manual search would take some time.

Maybe Loyce can do it fast? 

Yeah, I asked the same thing, more and more accounts are now resurrected with this signature:

Maybe @loyceV can scrap who is using the signature ans when was the last activity before wearing the signature, sadly I have no skill to do it.

[tbct_mt2]

I also wonder why they didn't bother add merit as requirement on their rules since they mention "Poor quality and unconstructive posts will not be tolerated on this campaign."

We can call the rule as pseudo rule on post quality. They don't care about post quality, but they add that rule because other campaigns have it.

[FaucetKING]

-snip-

Seems like you didn't even look at my post, where i provided clear evidence and links of their fraudulent behavior..

Peoples aren't forced to signup into Yobit, even if somebody finds the link in one of the signatures, a research is a must! as you know: ''The law does not protect the dupes" ... I mean, i don't force peoples to join yobit.. And even peoples must make a research..if they do, they will findout about the issues and they are free to risk their funds and signup or to just walk away.. Don't try to make us responsible for the people's issues.. They trusted a platform which has an unknown owner.. and you still talking? -_-

You're advertising it in the goddamn signature. If it's a fraud, you're basically complicit in it.

i'll wait for the DT Members to annonce what they will do for the persons who joined the signature compaign.. if they asks us to remove the signature, we will remove it.

Ahh. So someone else has to determine whether or not what you're advertising is a scam in order for you to remove your signature.

You really have no morals at all, do you?

I didn't get scammed before by Yobit.. The Accusation threads are not a proof unless the persons are really scammed and prove that. I relied on my own experience with them and i didn't get scammed, is that hard?

Do you know that there's drugs sellers who sells you something that could end up your life being addicted to something that could kill you?
Did the seller oblige you or force you to buy it?
There's advertisements here and there and there's peoples talking about the benefits of drugs and marijuana and stuffs like that.. Do you just buy drugs because people's advertised it? Recommended it? Don't you make a research first?
Thats just an example.. I do have morals.. I didn't attack you neither forced you to join yobit and I already clearly stated my thoughts about yobit.. And I didn't see your post about yobit and I won't see it neither look for it.. Do you know why? Because I smell that you have an issue with them.. Which is not my business.. You have to go to the police office if they scammed you, not just coming here to quote my own words and understanding them the way you like.. Just stay away from my name.. You are trying to say that I have no morals and in the same time you're trying to convince me to leave the signature compaign? Is that logical?
FYI, a guy with a good trust just said that we are free to join the sig compaign but we must not spam the forum.. If yobit got proved as a scam platform, then the signature compaign thread will be removed and the members wearing the signature will be tagged.
That's enough for me. I will be wearing the signature until I find something that could help me financially..
And If you really want me to leave the signature and to showoff my morals for real, you might be welcomed to contact ChipMixer's compaign manager and leave your spot for me.. I would be honored to join em. Will you do that? Or not? I think you won't do it.. Do you know why?
The answer is simple, just because of money.. You are with them because of the paycheque! So please stop talking about morals and stay away. (or prove that I am wrong and give me your spot).
Ba Byeee!

(update:
Just look at this post :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134119.msg50694534#msg50694534
This is the same guy that is trying to fight yobit sig's possible spam attemp..Lmao.. He is even in ChipMixer's sig compaign and he just posted a reply that contains only 1 line and like 11 word. Which is a pure spam. Or am I wrong? First, enhance your posts and then, you will be welcomed to give me orders!)
A wise man once said :
'' Don't listen to AdolfinWolf's instructions and speeches because he is already a spammer''.
Now leave me in peace of mind, please.

[suchmoon]

https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/ shows the signatures they're supposed to use so it can be detected quite accurately.

I'm gonna try my best LoyceV impression so please bear with me.

Edit - updated list here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133795.msg50699097#msg50699097

[akamit]

~snip~

Nice work mate.
Have you read the posts of dimondimon? If not, please read some of his posts I bet you will be entertained. 


Now as the list is almost ready, bitcointalk polices should run an investigation to find the cheaters... It is possible, some users will try to abuse Yobit campaign as they do not have a manager I guess.

[marcotheminer]

That's way more users than I ever expected there to be.. Average of 10/day/user seems accurate, right? 1500*0.00015 = 0.075/day budget. Seems that yobit is ready to pay $10k (minimum) a month for this.

[suchmoon]

That's way more users than I ever expected there to be.. Average of 10/day/user seems accurate, right? 1500*0.00015 = 0.075/day budget. Seems that yobit is ready to pay $10k (minimum) a month for this.

Why are you giving them free advertising?

[shasan]

That's way more users than I ever expected there to be.. Average of 10/day/user seems accurate, right? 1500*0.00015 = 0.075/day budget. Seems that yobit is ready to pay $10k (minimum) a month for this.

Why are you giving them free advertising?

I saw from a bitcointalk post that they received 0.0003BTC per post (first time) and now they are receiving according to the announcement rate. Also, I saw there that negative trusted user getting payment from there. I think yobit has a bug that's why negative trusted users getting payment from them. So, it is not free and thinks yobit will soon stop to give payment to a negatively trusted people.

[stompix]

1500*0.00015 = 0.075/day budget.

What kind of math did you use for this?

LE:

I think marco considered 150 user and 10 posts average per day and 0.00015BTC average payment per post.

The problem is not from where he got the numbers, but 15*15 will never make 75
The result would be in that case 0.255

[shasan]

1500*0.00015 = 0.075/day budget.

What kind of math did you use for this?

I think marco considered 150 user and 10 posts average per day and 0.00015BTC average payment per post.
Edit:
I think if they spam they will be banned and in this way, average posts might be below 10 per day.

[suchmoon]

I think yobit has a bug that's why negative trusted users getting payment from them.

This shitshow is getting better by the hour. No wonder marco and other scammers are topping the list. Rare chance to cash in and obviously they already don't give a shit about the forum.

Up to 180 now:

	#	User	Posts in 24h	Avg post length	Earned merits	DT score
	1.	Saint-loup	46	430	274
	2.	DBronze98	41	256	0	-4: -2 / +0
	3.	|Admiral|	40	116	8	-2: -1 / +0
	4.	RamBahadur.Gurung	38	508	12
	5.	dimondimon	30	171	0
	6.	muslol67	30	232	9
	7.	Vinalians	28	287	0
	8.	senne	27	352	6
	9.	BestBitcoinOdds	26	245	20
	10.	marcotheminer	26	278	7	-125: -7 / +3
	11.	BeManga	25	231	0
	12.	mtmitat	25	80	0
	13.	pcfli	25	190	0	-4: -2 / +0
	14.	FistBump	23	150	0
	15.	Rumhurius	23	192	42
	16.	Scheede	23	323	283
	17.	CodyAlfaridzi	22	372	18
	18.	furylmz	22	271	1
	19.	green547	22	237	91
	20.	Wawa2013	22	237	0
	21.	Aceeakell	21	236	0
	22.	honghaisea	21	203	2
	23.	Pearls Before Swine	21	831	22
	24.	X2Team2017	21	136	0
	25.	ChrisPop	20	386	2
	26.	craslovell	20	213	12
	27.	Judge-Dredd	20	144	0
	28.	meliodas	20	357	0
	29.	snakey	20	350	1	-8: -3 / +0
	30.	tenakha	20	264	0
	31.	TribalBob	20	266	0
	32.	tsaroz	20	289	11
	33.	Fortify	19	459	3	30: -0 / +3
	34.	mdayonliner	19	457	358	-2: -2 / +2
	35.	mr_random	19	227	0
	36.	Hellion93	18	56	0
	37.	MonsterV	18	349	0
	38.	Splatters	18	269	0
	39.	tiptopgemdotcom	18	261	0	10: -0 / +1
	40.	fuathan	17	350	12
	41.	micalith	17	268	1
	42.	rijaljun	17	283	0
	43.	rizkyrz	17	210	0
	44.	robelneo	17	359	3
	45.	ShooterXD	17	401	1	-1: -1 / +1
	46.	bonker	16	308	1
	47.	Kepasa	16	156	0
	48.	nara1892	16	212	8
	49.	Wayan_Pedjeng	16	339	0
	50.	bangkecol	15	150	64
	51.	codehtcmail	15	348	1
	52.	FoBoT	15	323	0
	53.	Wendigo	15	298	28	-2: -1 / +0
	54.	Blowon	14	340	0
	55.	generous	14	159	0	-2: -1 / +0
	56.	HellDiverUK	14	200	1
	57.	Nevsky	14	236	0
	58.	TillKoeln	14	350	0
	59.	webmir	14	171	0
	60.	jualidbitmixer	13	338	0	-2: -1 / +0
	61.	Reatim	13	300	1
	62.	richjohn	13	309	5
	63.	artur11110000	12	188	5
	64.	BlackMambaPH	12	331	9	20: -0 / +2
	65.	DaveF	12	595	57	20: -0 / +2
	66.	Fatunad	12	431	4
	67.	fcmatt	12	192	1	-2: -1 / +0
	68.	Virtual miner	12	416	2
	69.	yvesp110	12	356	1
	70.	aioc	11	338	2
	71.	D ltr	11	455	1
	72.	Quidat	11	389	4
	73.	samputin	11	602	3
	74.	simplelisten	11	308	1
	75.	sonerbo	11	289	1
	76.	tyoA7X	11	194	1	-4: -2 / +0
	77.	BartS	10	395	4
	78.	djsugar	10	406	1
	79.	Icygreen	10	400	124
	80.	-Joni-	10	106	0
	81.	markus124	10	451	0
	82.	matchi2011	10	368	3
	83.	Omega Weapon	10	392	1
	84.	rocku12345	10	354	0
	85.	Strongkored	10	284	0	-2: -1 / +0
	86.	Anonylz	9	436	1
	87.	Mihaylovic	9	371	0
	88.	PHI1618	9	198	591
	89.	trannamtan	9	364	0
	90.	adel hmdt	8	398	2
	91.	bobyhodob	8	288	0
	92.	btcdevil	8	344	27	-2: -1 / +0
	93.	mistanama	8	341	0
	94.	rolik2001	8	127	0
	95.	Vesperion	8	175	0
	96.	Bitdonator	7	304	0
	97.	Ferris419	7	379	0
	98.	mdzahed134	7	439	0
	99.	medsi2	7	470	0	10: -0 / +1
	100.	TCTDev	7	762	10
	101.	AngelSky	6	348	37	-2: -1 / +0
	102.	binhvo1505	6	373	11
	103.	Darooghe	6	484	2
	104.	emersonlogan62	6	238	0
	105.	gamer4156	6	496	0	10: -0 / +1
	106.	janggernaut	6	364	0	10: -0 / +1
	107.	Mandoy	6	618	8
	108.	mmo4me.2016	6	185	6
	109.	sempak	6	332	0
	110.	teosanru	6	346	2
	111.	Asmonist	5	206	0
	112.	bamboylee	5	348	1
	113.	CryptInvest	5	661	94
	114.	onlinedragon	5	678	1
	115.	shimbark123	5	357	0	-2: -1 / +0
	116.	skarais	5	221	0
	117.	2double0	4	689	8
	118.	bittamak	4	155	0
	119.	coupable	4	982	6
	120.	ranlo	4	429	2	10: -0 / +1
	121.	Text	4	355	0
	122.	vamp8	4	247	0
	123.	VieleSind	4	455	0
	124.	A-Bolt	3	238	85
	125.	Aqualung89	3	168	5
	126.	Bacchu	3	274	0
	127.	danherbias07	3	366	0
	128.	idontcare	3	189	0
	129.	lembang	3	190	0
	130.	paulk11087	3	178	0
	131.	Triffin	3	364	0
	132.	ysakay	3	307	9
	133.	Bardman	2	384	11
	134.	bias	2	134	1
	135.	cryp24x	2	274	0
	136.	djonkar	2	500	0
	137.	dmcx	2	431	0
	138.	EpyxZ	2	391	0
	139.	InvoKing	2	275	63
	140.	martinyin	2	123	0
	141.	murazor	2	176	4
	142.	pginvest	2	325	0
	143.	psihotoc	2	205	1
	144.	Salmen	2	489	8
	145.	SushiNoTomato	2	283	0
	146.	target	2	293	9
	147.	Belligerent Fool	1	172	1
	148.	Chinesegandalf	1	236	0
	149.	hdtqisg	1	121	0
	150.	kurbeks	1	26	5
	151.	Myrik_BY	1	216	15
	152.	pinkflower	1	275	9
	153.	plast555	1	140	0
	154.	Vivik	1	78	0
	155.	babos8383	0	0	0
	156.	bigon	0	0	0
	157.	bileq	0	0	9
	158.	botatrada	0	0	0
	159.	Burmik123	0	0	7
	160.	Enticed87	0	0	0
	161.	fl32biz	0	0	0
	162.	freegold	0	0	0
	163.	hashman	0	0	0
	164.	hxtop	0	0	0
	165.	imbest	0	0	0	-2: -1 / +0
	166.	kpcian	0	0	29	-4: -2 / +0
	167.	lab rat hoax	0	0	2
	168.	Lion BItcoin Shop	0	0	0	-2: -1 / +0
	169.	matveevka	0	0	0	-2: -1 / +0
	170.	Muhtaixa	0	0	1
	171.	RagingBull	0	0	0
	172.	rudin123	0	0	0
	173.	SaracenRomero213	0	0	2
	174.	secone	0	0	0
	175.	shadabahmed	0	0	0
	176.	sHeRiLyN1618	0	0	0	-2: -1 / +0
	177.	Skarner21	0	0	0
	178.	tungaqhd	0	0	4
	179.	Xinarae*	0	0	5
	180.	yavwa	0	0	0

These are users who have "1450 COINS" in their signature (i.e. likely a Yobit signature) and have posted recently. It's not 100% complete because I may have missed some posts or not retrieved some user profiles yet.

[Saint-loup]

That's way more users than I ever expected there to be.. Average of 10/day/user seems accurate, right? 1500*0.00015 = 0.075/day budget. Seems that yobit is ready to pay $10k (minimum) a month for this.

Yes, I think it's only an eastern egg for the eastern week-end. Tuesday it will be over imo.

[r1s2g3]

So you are saying if I wear Yobit signature, it will automatically make me spammer? Sorry but I beg to differ.

No, that's not the issue. The issue would be advertising a scammy or shady website. There are a certain type of person that will advertise anything as long as there's money on the line. These people have no morals and just want to line their pockets at whatever the cost.You could be the forums greatest poster but if you'd happily promote a scam because you're being paid to you would have little morals imho. I'm sure many people are glad that there's a campaign they can easily jump on but you have to look at the bigger issue here and that's promoting spam and [potential] scams.

Yobit signature guidelines just says that they will not accept -ve trusted members but in reality they are accepting and paying it. So Yobit campaign will go on with red tagged users (as they have nothing to fear as they are already tagged and forum is not going to ban them).


Those who are still in support of Yobit, should really check the trust of below profile:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=406594