hacked account Spamming yobit sig

[The Cryptovator]

Alright Ill come clean Account selling is legal I think? but, I sold him the account but Im pissed he scammed me and owes me $60 in btc. He just stopped responding after he changed the pass.  I gave him the info and the address keys.   Teaches me to never deal with someone on this forum again,

Glad to see that you got scam during sell bitcointalk account. And obviously you deserve it in my opinion. Look like account change hand multiple times. Most likely hacked account. However we can't tag any account without proper evidence. Just verbally explanation isn't enough proof to tag any account. If you gave him address key info then sign a message from that. Hope it would help to tag that account.

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[Steamtyme]

Glad to see that you got scam during sell bitcointalk account.

While I hope it's a lesson learned from dealing in shady shit, I don't see the point in reveling in any scam being successful. I've PM'd the account mentioned in OP with a link here. I've left the account neutral feedback for now. If they do not address the issue I'll tag the account. Considering they are in yobit, that would force their hand to address these accusations within a day or so; as OP may disappear to get back to trading accounts.

Either way I would like to see this clarified, as there is the potential an account sale/theft has occurred. I do believe one of the 2 users is the original owner going back to 2018 at least, because I don't recall seeing a "My account was hacked" thread before for this one.

[The Cryptovator]

I don't see the point in reveling in any scam being successful.

This is not revel really. You know very well that DT and few potential forum members are do not like account trade. I believe you are the one also. Are we really not trying to protect users from scammers? Especially to account traders. But they don't like to avoid it and trading account silently. Most of account sellers don't have any account for sells. Their intention is just sacm to people's. Lot of case we have seen. But still they have not learned. Hope they will learn once a day.

[Steamtyme]

I guess when the words "Glad to see" come up it can be a bit confusing, especially when it appears that on some end a scam has happened. Kind of goes against the spirit of "protecting from scammers", to be glad one may have been pulled off. That's the point I was making.

Lot's of other things to be glad about, such as the potential tagging of bought/sold accounts. This is a small step each time in attempting to deter this practice, and I will gladly try to assist in that; and we agree on this. I don't worry about whether or not I'm on DT in the way I go about things, hell I don't even know who is on DT, I tweak and adjust my custom list and it's working for me so far; with more to come. This way I can attempt to surround myself with feedback that I feel is appropriate, relevant and informative.

Edit: Tagged based on the post below. Regardless of what has happened here recently, Vesperion is a self admitted bought account within the past few months.

[Vesperion]

Alright Ill come clean Account selling is legal I think? but, I sold him the account but Im pissed he scammed me and owes me $60 in btc. He just stopped responding after he changed the pass.  I gave him the info and the address keys.   Teaches me to never deal with someone on this forum again,

Glad to see that you got scam during sell bitcointalk account. And obviously you deserve it in my opinion. Look like account change hand multiple times. Most likely hacked account. However we can't tag any account without proper evidence. Just verbally explanation isn't enough proof to tag any account. If you gave him address key info then sign a message from that. Hope it would help to tag that account.

Hello, I bought this account for $200 some months ago, to buy accounts isn't illegal on this forum, and the OP first say the account was hacked and now he say he sold it. I still in touch with the seller and i know he wouldn't scam some one for $60.

If the OP want the account back i want to recover my $200. I'm open to negotiation.

For me this is pure business and not more, my identity and the seller identity will stay anon, and while OP can't sign a transaction to prove what he is saying then he is lying.

[Vesperion]

I guess when the words "Glad to see" come up it can be a bit confusing, especially when it appears that on some end a scam has happened. Kind of goes against the spirit of "protecting from scammers", to be glad one may have been pulled off. That's the point I was making.

Lot's of other things to be glad about, such as the potential tagging of bought/sold accounts. This is a small step each time in attempting to deter this practice, and I will gladly try to assist in that; and we agree on this. I don't worry about whether or not I'm on DT in the way I go about things, hell I don't even know who is on DT, I tweak and adjust my custom list and it's working for me so far; with more to come. This way I can attempt to surround myself with feedback that I feel is appropriate, relevant and informative.

Edit: Tagged based on the post below. Regardless of what has happened here recently, Vesperion is a self admitted bought account within the past few months.

Thanks for the negative, there goes one back to you, enjoy it!  

Please read the forum rules before abuse the trust system again https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

Can you sign a message from a staked address to prove that’s your account?

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Joined: July 16, 2017.
ETH address: 0xD1A22b3E103bAA0c785e1d1eFD8DE0CF52Eaa87d

Thanks

This one should be ok.

Sign it and I’ll tag him temporarily while you do the recovering procedure.

Is good to know there is a recovery procedure, because i just talk with the owner and he give me the private key from that addy.

Is fun to see how any mother fucker can create an account and start a scam accusation without real profs. And how the trusty users believe to a newbie.

Let me tell you what happens here, the OP saw the security log and was easy for him to start a scam accusation, is easy to ruin lives in this forum, any one can create an account and start a trash talk, but the problem is when big users on the forum believe him.

To be clear, If OP signs a transaction with that addy i will giveaway the account to him, but if you want me to sign a transaction with that addy it will be to give negative reputation to all the users who are making harassment against me without solid prof.

[TryNinja]

Thanks for the negative, there goes one back to you, enjoy it!  

Please read the forum rules before about the trust system again https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

Don't do that... Retaliatory feedbacks always result in more negative feedbacks. Not to mention that your feedback is marked as "untrusted" and doesn't count for anyone's trust score. So, you're just attracting more negative feedbacks.

But it doesn't really matter. Account buyers/sellers usually get many negative feedbacks and they stay there. Buying accounts may not be against the forum rules, but it is very untrustworthy from the eyes of the community, so we all agree that the user deserves negative feedback. Your account is "useless" now (assuming that you only bought it to earn money).

[Vesperion]

Thanks for the negative, there goes one back to you, enjoy it!  

Please read the forum rules before about the trust system again https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

Don't do that... Retaliatory feedbacks always result in more negative feedbacks. Not to mention that your feedback is marked as "untrusted" and doesn't count for anyone's trust score. So, you're just attracting more negative feedbacks.

But it doesn't really matter. Account buyers/sellers usually get many negative feedbacks and they stay there. Buying accounts may not be against the forum rules, but it is very untrustworthy from the eyes of the community, so we all agree that the user deserves negative feedback. Your account is "useless" now (assuming that you only bought it to earn money).

I'm not doing anything against the rules, they say i can buy and sell accounts. But referrals aren't allowed and Steamtyme has a referral link in his profile, so, who is the bad guy here? Who is against the rules? and who is abusing the system?

But if people want to abuse the trust system then expect a consequence for it.

i will leave this here for the record;

Trust system abuse: https://archive.fo/m5npg
Referral Link on the profile: https://archive.fo/4KF4L

The only winner here is the troll who start this thread, after talking with the past owner he told me he creates this account, so, the user who start this only want us to burn our trust and he is the only one who win here.

[TryNinja]

I'm not doing anything against the rules, they say i can buy and sell accounts.

Exactly. If you were doing something against the rules, you would receive a ban instead of a negative trust. Got it now?

But referrals aren't allowed and Steamtyme has a referral link in his profile, so, who is the bad guy here? Who is against the rules? and who is abusing the system?

You better take another look at the rules. Referral links are allowed in the signature and personal message fields. They just aren't allowed in posts/threads (mainly if the user is spamming it).

But if people want to abuse the trust system then expect a consequence for it.

You are the only abusing the trust system (by giving retaliatory feedbacks).

[BlackMambaPH]

Alright Ill come clean Account selling is legal I think? but, I sold him the account but Im pissed he scammed me and owes me $60 in btc. He just stopped responding after he changed the pass.  I gave him the info and the address keys.   Teaches me to never deal with someone on this forum again,

Glad to see that you got scam during sell bitcointalk account. And obviously you deserve it in my opinion. Look like account change hand multiple times. Most likely hacked account. However we can't tag any account without proper evidence. Just verbally explanation isn't enough proof to tag any account. If you gave him address key info then sign a message from that. Hope it would help to tag that account.

Hello, I bought this account for $200 some months ago, to buy accounts isn't illegal on this forum, and the OP first say the account was hacked and now he say he sold it. I still in touch with the seller and i know he wouldn't scam some one for $60.

If the OP want the account back i want to recover my $200. I'm open to negotiation.

For me this is pure business and not more, my identity and the seller identity will stay anon, and while OP can't sign a transaction to prove what he is saying then he is lying.

I see many accounts tagged by DT because of encouraging buying and selling account which I totally agree with. And because of that see what happened to your situation. This situation getting complicated now.

Who's telling the truth and who's the lier between this two?

But I agree with OP should signed an old address with this mentioned account.

Edit: Much better if they both side will signed an old address posted this account.

[bittraffic]

Alright Ill come clean Account selling is legal I think? but, I sold him the account but Im pissed he scammed me and owes me $60 in btc. He just stopped responding after he changed the pass.  I gave him the info and the address keys.   Teaches me to never deal with someone on this forum again,

Glad to see that you got scam during sell bitcointalk account. And obviously you deserve it in my opinion. Look like account change hand multiple times. Most likely hacked account. However we can't tag any account without proper evidence. Just verbally explanation isn't enough proof to tag any account. If you gave him address key info then sign a message from that. Hope it would help to tag that account.

Hello, I bought this account for $200 some months ago, to buy accounts isn't illegal on this forum, and the OP first say the account was hacked and now he say he sold it. I still in touch with the seller and i know he wouldn't scam some one for $60.

If the OP want the account back i want to recover my $200. I'm open to negotiation.

For me this is pure business and not more, my identity and the seller identity will stay anon, and while OP can't sign a transaction to prove what he is saying then he is lying.

Look like both of you messed this up already. Its not illegal to trade accounts but its not morallywise. The DTs doesn't like that so both  of you will suffer from this mess. OP lied in the first post, revealed later on the account  wasn't hack  but being sold. It looks to  me like OP wants his account back while partially  paid.

[Vesperion]

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You are the only abusing the trust system (by giving retaliatory feedbacks).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0 Forum rules
18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1112531
Get a negative from this user just to buy an account, i haven't scammed or do something illegal. I just be honest. Doesn't deserve a negative trust for this.

Can you tell me where is the abuse?

I'm not here to fight guys, i'm here to defend my self from this harassment. OP wasn't owner from this account, he is just a newbie troll who is winning this fight, i have secret keys from the ETH address to prove i owe this account and i already end with a negative reputation, what's wrong with you guys, what i am doing wrong? what rule i break?

[TryNinja]

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You are the only abusing the trust system (by giving retaliatory feedbacks).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0 Forum rules
18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

Made it bigger so you can see better.

Anyways, I'm done with you. See yah.

[r1s2g3]

Alright Ill come clean Account selling is legal I think? but, I sold him the account but Im pissed he scammed me and owes me $60 in btc. He just stopped responding after he changed the pass.  I gave him the info and the address keys.   Teaches me to never deal with someone on this forum again,

Glad to see that you got scam during sell bitcointalk account. And obviously you deserve it in my opinion. Look like account change hand multiple times. Most likely hacked account. However we can't tag any account without proper evidence. Just verbally explanation isn't enough proof to tag any account. If you gave him address key info then sign a message from that. Hope it would help to tag that account.

Hello, I bought this account for $200 some months ago, to buy accounts isn't illegal on this forum, and the OP first say the account was hacked and now he say he sold it. I still in touch with the seller and i know he wouldn't scam some one for $60.

If the OP want the account back i want to recover my $200. I'm open to negotiation.

For me this is pure business and not more, my identity and the seller identity will stay anon, and while OP can't sign a transaction to prove what he is saying then he is lying.

I see many accounts tagged by DT because of encouraging buying and selling account which I totally agree with. And because of that see what happened to your situation. This situation getting complicated now.

Who's telling the truth and who's the lier between this two?

But I agree with OP should signed an old address with this mentioned account.

Edit: Much better if they both side will signed an old address posted this account.

I don't think signing of message is now required. (because accused already admitted buying the account and it does not really mattered whether OP really sold it to accused or somebody else sold it).
Vesperion already confessed account buying . It now depend upon DT users whether they take this "self admittance" as honest approach and do not tag it or on contrary they took "self admittance" as proof (or evidence) and feel free to tag them.

[Steamtyme]

Thanks for the negative, there goes one back to you, enjoy it!  
Please read the forum rules before abuse the trust system again https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

You're welcome. You are free to leave feedback as you see fit. Maybe someday it will carry weight if people see value in how you use the system. I have read the rules, that's why I placed my referral link there, interesting point considering referral links is a whole other murky line for another discussion topic. I placed mine where it would not be an issue, and if it became a community issue I would remove it.

I did not tag you based on the OP, that just brought you to my attention, once the account was admittedly sold/bought it deserved a tag, based on the community standards for acceptable practices. You don't have to like my feedback, the same way I don't have to like/tolerate account sales.

@Tryninja well explained.

But I agree with OP should signed an old address with this mentioned account.
Edit: Much better if they both side will signed an old address posted this account.

I guess that would clarify who rightly owns the account at this point, although account recovery would probably do just fine if it as been hacked. Either way the tag I left has nothing to do with the OP's claims just what the account holder has said themselves.

[r1s2g3]

what's wrong with yo u guys, what i am doing wrong? what rule i break?

It is not about any rule breaking, if you broke the rule then forum moderator have dealt it.

I am not finding any good analogy but  let me still try.

Case 1: Suppose you are travelling in a train and sitting on seat reserved for handicapped person. A handicapped person boarded the train and asked you to vacate the seat but you refute. You broke the rule and you will be fined as per the rules.

Case 2: Suppose you are travelling in a train and sitting on unreserved seat.A handicapped person boarded the train and did not find any seat. That handicapped person requested you for a seat and you refuted it. You see , you did not break any rule but fellow passenger
just developed the strong disliking for you. You will not be fined as per rule but you will clearly see that fellow passenger have now disregards for you.

You are just fitting in second case.

[The Cryptovator]

Thanks for the negative, there goes one back to you, enjoy it!  

Retaliatory abuse of trust system although your feedback's is untrusted, means your feedback will not visible publicly, it will show only to you. So you have enjoy it only . Added more feedback's according to your statement above.

Yea, account buy isn't against forum rules, but forum rules isn't related with trust system. Trust system not based on forum rules. Trust system for prevent abuse of forum. So you are abusing forum by bought account. So accordingly you deserve tag.

[BlackMambaPH]

Time to lock this thread since the mentioned account is in idle mode again.  

Looks like both parties don't care anymore because the account has now a negative trust rating for DTs.
Also, he changed his signature to:

Account burned by the community.

[ankit10]

My account was hacked and now the user is abusing it to spam with a yobit signature.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=410292

I'm trying to recover it but can someone stop him in the time being.

Alright Ill come clean Account selling is legal I think? but, I sold him the account but Im pissed he scammed me and owes me $60 in btc. He just stopped responding after he changed the pass.  I gave him the info and the address keys.   Teaches me to never deal with someone on this forum again,

This member also deserves negative trust. He lied first, he said the account is hacked and now saying he sold his account. DT members should tag him too.