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April 22, 2019, 04:46:55 PM
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It depends on if you think our posts are worthy.  In the future, if a new rank is introduced we will need the merit as much as you.  Smiley

It doesn’t matter if we’re Legendary. The only posters who earn shit loads of Merit are those who make threads detailing forum stats & data etc.

For people like myself we still like receiving Merit as & where we can. I have to admit I find it tough lately, I’m not receiving that much these days.

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April 22, 2019, 04:53:33 PM
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I am one of them. I luckily received bunches of merits and promoted to Full Member, then Senior Member. The period I spent between Full Member and Senior Member was nearly 2 or 3 months, it's one of the most amazing period since my first day in the forum.
The only posters who earn shit loads of Merit are those who make threads detailing forum stats & data etc.
There has still no new rank, so you should not put pressure on you. Just forget about merits, relax a bit, and see merit circulation operates in the forum.
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April 22, 2019, 06:07:25 PM
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It depends on if you think our posts are worthy.  In the future, if a new rank is introduced we will need the merit as much as you.  Smiley

It doesn’t matter if we’re Legendary. The only posters who earn shit loads of Merit are those who make threads detailing forum stats & data etc.

For people like myself we still like receiving Merit as & where we can. I have to admit I find it tough lately, I’m not receiving that much these days.

Indeed I do understand that, but I also do understand the OP with saying its very difficult, to always merit good quality new members as merit good legendary members... I do like some legendary members very much their posting, content as style and good humor spirit... as I do love to merit for example you and BoB and HM or V8 and Globb0 and so on, but some guys also made it possible for me to give some Smerit , still its very hard to reward as Legendary as NEW good members, as what I think is a needed place as well ... some good sr members, Hero members with lot of activity but in need for some merit, I hope my merit source application will be approved so I can send some more merits as well where they are needed.
And its very understandable that when a Legendary as yourself post something good thats it get merit from time to time, very logic you appreciate merit as well....



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April 22, 2019, 07:02:33 PM
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Frankly speaking, I felt jealous about Legendary rank before who supposedly rank up 3x base on their merit receive because of their good work and having good stats and reports here. Just like    @LoyceV, The pharma, suchmoon, and other legendary ranks members who easily for them to catch up merit and especially @DdmrDdmr Sr. member rank but potential 2x Legendary rank. I don't know if @DdmrDdmr is a breed of genius human or an AI robot who was here in the forum, they all received more than 1k merit.

I am from a third world country and the English language was not our native language so that is my barrier to getting merit but I make them as an inspirational of having a constructive post and proud that I ranked up even my activity is very ahead to my rank. Those Legendaries that deserving to get merit, so they also deserve as a merit source, so to generate merit they need also to receive merit and distribute to us as a lower rank than them, IMO.

PS: Sorry for my bad English I just want to express my feelings and giving my two cents here. Smiley




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April 22, 2019, 08:14:12 PM
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Merits are made as a sort of kudos points for good posts in the first place, not made to help people rank up specifically.
Merit system is developed to prevent spam and also to prevent spammers to rank up. But it is not developed to prevent quality posters imo.
I know there is very less number of quality posters, maybe the ratio is like 5 quality posters out of 1000 total posters.
I also know, to find and merit those 5 gems is not an easy task, but those guys really deserve merits to rank higher.
It's just what I think, and it is not necessary that others have to think the same.  Smiley


right now.  It depends on if you think our posts are worthy.  In the future, if a new rank is introduced we will need the merit as much as you.  Smiley
Indeed you need merits at that point. But I think some of you have enough merits as of now to get the new rank instantly. Cheesy No waiting at all!


This is true, but I thought I recall Theymos ruling out creating a rank above Legendary.  I know there was some discussion about it and I think Theymos chimed in and said it wasn't going to happen.
This is something I was not expecting.  Sad
I'd really love to see a new rank, maybe the new rank I'd like most is "Contributor"

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April 22, 2019, 10:15:55 PM
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i think this isn't fair at all so only old members will get merit points and new members like me still with 0 points even i have 1000 good posts  Cry
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April 22, 2019, 10:26:23 PM
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i think this isn't fair at all so only old members will get merit points and new members like me still with 0 points even i have 1000 good posts  Cry
I can see only 9 posts of yours... where are your other 991 posts? Does it belong to your main account?

Ask for merits if you really think your QUALITY POSTS haven't got merited. But make sure to post from your main. Good Luck!
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April 22, 2019, 10:43:58 PM
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i think this isn't fair at all so only old members will get merit points and new members like me still with 0 points even i have 1000 good posts  Cry
Why is it not fair?
They are also human being like you. You should never be discouraged at all. The fact is you can also get merit if you start making good posts and help members. I just made my 101th Merit today, and I am now a full member. You can also make it from Zero.

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April 23, 2019, 02:54:09 AM
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i think this isn't fair at all so only old members will get merit points and new members like me still with 0 points even i have 1000 good posts  Cry

Where are the "good posts" you're referring to though. Couldn't find one. 🤔

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April 23, 2019, 02:56:33 AM
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Same thing I thought, there are tons of members who post good content but I keep seeing merits to members who are already well established here and do not need any further appreciation. If you are not merit source, kindly save it for someone needy.

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April 23, 2019, 05:15:32 AM
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I find that I read such good posts I want to merit either by salty, loceyV, QS, thermos, and plenty of other people that have well over 1500 merit. Should I still merit there posts if I think it is good? I realize merit is meant for good posts, but I am not a merit source and my merit is limited so I am really stingy with merit, escpically when I feel like they don't need the merit, especially staff and admin accounts.

I don't think that these people are getting a lot of merits because they are very good posters, but i am not denying the fact that there posts are really good. But there are many other good posters of low ranked they are not getting merits. I firmly believe that they are mainly getting a lot of merits because of their position here.
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April 23, 2019, 12:48:19 PM
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I don't think that these people are getting a lot of merits because they are very good posters,
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they are mainly getting a lot of merits because of their position here.

False, both merit sources and other forum members (mostly higher ranked users) with smerits unconsciously are drawn to meriting lower rank users. The problem now is the lower rank users aren't posting what this meriters consider high quality posts because not everyone is LoyceV that might merit you just because your post isn't spam. Most members have strict rules. There was a time almost every merit source & higher ranked user reviewed (posts history) of the user they want to merit before meriting that post, some even check for plagiarism but I believe most of those criteria must have been dropped because we now see high rate of ranking users especially between member-snr member.

My point is, deserving posts gets merited, you should not concentrate on who is recieving more merit or not just concentrate on your account and get the needed merit to rank up by delivery extreme quality post that's the only way you can stand out of the crowd.

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April 23, 2019, 08:45:33 PM
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I merit legendary members as well as lower rank members. It is not really a coincidence that a member has 1500+ merits. He has that because of his posting abilities. It makes sense meriting those with lower ranks but not if you don't find their posts worth meriting. I wouldn't merit a lower rank over a higher rank if I don't think his post is worth it or is at least nearly as good as that of a legendary member.

I think it is much more important to merit those that use those earned merits to merit others. Those who participate in the merit system and make quality contributions deserve getting merited independent of their rank.

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~plenty of other people that have well over 1500 merit. Should I still merit there posts if I think it is good? I realize merit is meant for good posts, but I am not a merit source and my merit is limited so I am really stingy with merit, escpically when I feel like they don't need the merit, especially staff and admin accounts.
Merit is addictive: I have no use for it, I don't need it, and yet, I've checked every Merit transaction that ever reached me (MSP (Merit Source Problem): that's a long scroll down each time).
Merit shows appreciation, and that's much appreciated.
Admin (theymos) is my favourite profile to send sMerit to. Not because theymos needs it, but because I think many of his posts should be read by many people. And I use it to find back theymos' posts, although the list gets too long already.

However, if you're not loaded with sMerit, by all means, give them to someone else who deserves it. Not because they "need" it to rank up, but because they're good users who aren't spammers and thus shouldn't be restricted on this forum. And helping them Rank up ultimately helps this forum.
I've slightly adjusted my stance on meriting posts in the past year, but this is what I do now. And the lower the rank, the less demanding I am.

When Theymos tapped all those new merit sources last September, he sent out a PM to the new sources in which he implied that sources should hand out merits to Newbies pretty liberally.  I just can't find it within myself to lower my standards, though.  If a post by a new member is just average or is written in very broken English, there's no way I'm going to give them merits for it.
I don't really care about broken English, as long as it's a real user who has a real interest (or problem to solve). I'm a bit afraid spammers will copy this to earn Merit on new accounts, so I always check for plagiarism before meriting a Newbie.
Many of the Newbies I merit disappear again, which confirms to me they're real users, not spammers or account farmers. And those are the users this forum needs, if only they'd find the interest to stick around.
Some examples: crossevian, superbotolo and Nikaniko319.

The problem now is the lower rank users aren't posting what this meriters consider high quality posts because not everyone is LoyceV that might merit you just because your post isn't spam. Most members have strict rules.
Lol Cheesy Let me explain again why I do this: Merit was meant to stop account farmers from ranking up their farmed spam accounts. If a user isn't a spammer, that's a win for the forum and he can turn into an asset. Or maybe my expectations have been lowered after seeing too much spam Tongue
A Newbie making one "not spam post" won't earn him many Merits, but if he continues like that and makes hundreds of posts that are more or less decent, he'll get there eventually. That's also why I usually give only 1 Merit per post.

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there are tons of members who post good content but I keep seeing merits to members who are already well established here and do not need any further appreciation
I (and several other sources) would love to merit these good posts which are going unmerited! Please direct me/us to them by linking them in this thread: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source.


The problem now is the lower rank users aren't posting what this meriters consider high quality posts because not everyone is LoyceV that might merit you just because your post isn't spam.
I have a very limited supply of source sMerits, and so I have to be selective in who I send merits to. I often find myself skipping good posts by Hero and Legendary members which I would like to send merit to so I still have a couple of merits to send to more junior members. However, I have much less strict criteria for meriting Newbies compared to meriting Legendaries. A newbie who is demonstrating a willingness to read, learn, and contribute, and not just spam, beg, or complain, is worthy of ranking up in my opinion, even if their posts aren't that good.

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no need to be a jew when u already stacked hard with dem 1k merits, give the lil guys a lil taste for gods sake
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April 23, 2019, 09:46:07 PM
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It's more than OK to merit people with over 1K merits here are my two reasons

- Appreciation:
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- Continued Circulation of Merits When you send merit to members with 1K+ merits, it does not mean that they will not distribute it to other members. Chances are very high that members who contribute so much to the forum will circulate the sMerit to other members of the forum. So why not give them some merit even if it's just one?

I think 'Continued Circulation of Merits' is the key to keep the merit system going. People over 1K merit are usually used to also give out the merits, not only receiving them...
Also, if someone has gathered 1K merit (and I'm not talking about those Legendary accounts who have 1K merits but 0 earned merits over the 1K), so those who managed to get the 1K merit from various people in the forum, those members can usually decide if a post deserves a merit or not...
If you give a merit (or more merits) to shitposter or account farmer, they will merit shitposts or they will sell the merits and merit won't accomplish it's task anymore...

So don't be afraid to merit users with 1K merit, it will help the merit system to do it's job

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give the lil guys a lil taste for gods sake
You have a good point but it still depends on the situtation. I see no problem on giving merits to those "lil guys" you are pertaining as long as they are good and really a good quality poster but if they are not deserving to receive one then it's fair enough if others won't give them, right? Because if they will then it looks like that they (we) are tolerating them for doing poor deeds (you realized now?). Remember, privilege of receiving merit do not depends on whether you are a Newbie or a Staff, it depends on the contribution you made here.

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I have only one merit so i do not send merit as i can't, but i agree that merit should be for rewarding good post no matter they already have a lot.

Maybe good post that is worth +1 merit should be more highlighted. for excl. with a star. so it stands above the other answers.

Now you are actually sending merit to a person so only he knows he got one for one post instead of sending merit for a post itself.
If i got merit today i don't know for which post i got that exact one merit.

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April 24, 2019, 02:09:18 PM
 #40

I find that I read such good posts I want to merit either by salty, loceyV, QS, thermos, and plenty of other people that have well over 1500 merit. Should I still merit there posts if I think it is good? I realize merit is meant for good posts

Everyone here deserves a merit if you think their post is good enough to earn one, or two, or even more. And you should expect that those have 1K merits are the one who do really have good posts and the ones that are posting good stuff here that explaining everything that someone wants to know.


but I am not a merit source and my merit is limited so I am really stingy with merit, escpically when I feel like they don't need the merit, especially staff and admin accounts.

You don't have to worry about this, even if you spent all of your smerits, you will have another smerits after 120 days(correct me if I'm wrong), so you just have to be wise where you want to sent those smerits of yours for you not to regret anything at the end.
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