@theymos your board sinking in chaos

[Thule]

Thanks to your shitty trust feedback and known abuse of a small group your board is sinking in total choas.
Rules which have no value.DT members red tagging for any shit they belive is legit EVEN the rules clearly allow it.

Soon there will be no more much members left which won't be tagged as scammers.

Its nice to see how massivly the amount of destroyed accounts increase.

Signature campaigns accepting negative trust because there are no more many left without negative trust.

Another campaign creating choas that people get tagged as scammers for promoting something where the other group says its a legit offer.

Your board is clearly sinking in total chaos and i guess in 6 months you will be able to count high ranked member accounts without negative ratings with your own fingers.


You are in my eyes clearly part of the abuse as its you who allow a small group to destroy massiv amount of legit accounts for something which is a joke expecially having forum rules for which people get their accounts destroyed when following them.

Your trustfeedback goes to an end and hopefully also the massiv abuse you let the community feel from a small group which are destroying accounts based on their mood and business interrest.

How many new campaign managers have camplained to have their accounts destroyed by some DT members who are themself campaign managers ?


Traffic of that forum is already massivly sinking when comparing with other crypto boards......


A clear decline of your shitty trust feedback which is the biggest shit you could ever implement when having such manipulative DT members on board.

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[yazher]

Soon there will be no more much members left which won't be tagged as scammers.

You mean Soon there will be no more people like you who only know how to trashtalk Mods instead of respecting them for what they have done to maintain stability on this forum.

Soon there will be no more people like you cause you are ungrateful and the only thing you know is to blame Mods for the things that you don't understand.

[Lauda]

I'm sure scammers, account farmers and trolls will be dearly missed. How many more threads of crying are we going to see before you stop?

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Thule, you’ve made threads similar to this several times. Both yourself & cryptohunter & whoever else makes threads like this isn’t going to get anywhere. What do you expect to achieve here?

I really think you should just make another account or even find somewhere else to post.

You’re in the minority of people who are supposedly so dissatisfied at the way the forum is run. That should tell you something shouldn’t it. No offence intended but you’re repeatedly banging your head against a brick wall here. It’s possibly time to find somewhere else to post. Why don’t you try r/bitcoin out?

[2girls]

Thanks to your shitty trust feedback and known abuse of a small group your board is sinking in total choas.
Rules which have no value.DT members red tagging for any shit they belive is legit EVEN the rules clearly allow it.

Soon there will be no more much members left which won't be tagged as scammers.

Its nice to see how massivly the amount of destroyed accounts increase.

Signature campaigns accepting negative trust because there are no more many left without negative trust.

Another campaign creating choas that people get tagged as scammers for promoting something where the other group says its a legit offer.

Your board is clearly sinking in total chaos and i guess in 6 months you will be able to count high ranked member accounts without negative ratings with your own fingers.


You are in my eyes clearly part of the abuse as its you who allow a small group to destroy massiv amount of legit accounts for something which is a joke expecially having forum rules for which people get their accounts destroyed when following them.

Your trustfeedback goes to an end and hopefully also the massiv abuse you let the community feel from a small group which are destroying accounts based on their mood and business interrest.

How many new campaign managers have camplained to have their accounts destroyed by some DT members who are themself campaign managers ?


Traffic of that forum is already massivly sinking when comparing with other crypto boards......


A clear decline of your shitty trust feedback which is the biggest shit you could ever implement when having such manipulative DT members on board.

You're 100% right. The Rules were good, but they were exploited by few of the DT members as if it is their forum. No doubt Spammer surely make the forum down but these DT members abuse of power is also one big reason of this downfall.

I'm sure scammers, account farmers and trolls will be dearly missed. How many more threads of crying are we going to see before you stop?

I too believe the abuse of Red Trust will be remembered too .....

Time will tell who will stop ? Cats or Humans  

[The-One-Above-All]

I'm sure scammers, account farmers and trolls will be dearly missed. How many more threads of crying are we going to see before you stop?

But you are still here? you qualify clearly as a scammer, a liar, a troll (spreading false information repeatedly). You will be dearly missed as an example of all that is wrong with the trust system.
The board is sinking in chaos due to primarily lauda's and his crew (TMAN and owlcatz and yogg) new found entry back into a position of trust, after people correctly recognize, getting punished for lesser crimes or just telling the truth by persons that have observably lied, scammed, trust abused, been implicated in a probable extortion scheme is not very fair.

They also notice, you are punishing them for behaviors you refuse to punish others self confessed EVIL members for.

Yes the board will fall in to chaos. It is just getting warmed up I believe.

What kind of members would put up with this kind of observably double standards abuse and gaming of the systems right before their eyes?

Theymos does not openly support them, however some moderators DO. They should be removed. Theymos seems stuck in that he is not willing to enforce his will. He clearly said trust should be for scammers and those strongly likely to scam. Lauda just said fuck off I will red trust anyone I like. End of discussion.

Each day the abusers are more emboldened by theymos's inaction. Also theymos seems VERY liberal on what a scam is. Lying for financial gain does not seem to fit with his definition of a scam. Lauda is apparently possibly neutral according to theymos. He busts others tiny scammers in droves (or so we are meant to believe) then lies, scams, possibly tries to extort other members and trust abuses anyone that presents clear observable examples of his behavior for his own financial gain... so we are left to endure this untrustworthy dirt as part of the policing system here because it may balance out??. This is a big mistake. Nobody will accept punishment for lesser crimes than those giving out the punishment are clearly guilty of. One such crime apparently is telling the truth. I would rather see total chaos than an orderly gamed and abused system by a tiny untrustworthy fraction of the members here.

The systems of merit and trust are broken and rely on persons acting as unselfishly as possible where financial reward is clearly available with zero safeguards in place? They actually provide incentive and reward to abuse them. It is the most dangerous experiment that I have seen on this board since inception.

Evidence in the form of observable instances can be produced upon request to support these statements.

[Your Point Is Invalid]

Thule, you’ve made threads similar to this several times. Both yourself & cryptohunter & whoever else makes threads like this isn’t going to get anywhere. What do you expect to achieve here?

I really think you should just make another account or even find somewhere else to post.

You’re in the minority of people who are supposedly so dissatisfied at the way the forum is run.
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Actually, contrary to what you think, most users aren't satisfied with how the forum is run, maybe you should read the threads in meta sometime.

[TheNewAnon135246]

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I have an idea. The new forum software is publically available. How about you, Cryptohunter and every other person that wants to be DT so desperately go start your own forum? Repo can be found here: https://github.com/epochtalk

Good luck!

[The-One-Above-All]

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I have an idea. The new forum software is publically available. How about you, Cryptohunter and every other person that wants to be DT so desperately go start your own forum? Repo can be found here: https://github.com/epochtalk

Good luck!

Would that not leave the rest of this board vulnerable and to scammers and liars like your friends?  How uncaring would those members be if they just left?
Why don't you guys all go to another board. you could call it bigcontalk and perform your human centipede merit and trust behavior there? Biggest scammer takes all?  I will lurk just to enjoy the show.

[yogg]

Would that not leave the rest of this board vulnerable and to scammers and liars like your friends?  How uncaring would those members be if they just left?
Why don't you guys all go to another board. you could call it bigcontalk and perform your human centipede merit and trust behavior there? Biggest scammer takes all?  I will lurk just to enjoy the show.

That's very nice of you. So much benevolent care.  
I have two points :

1)
May I ask, who did you protect from a scam ? What shady business did you uncover ?
"The DT system" is not an answer. "The DT system" is not a business.

So, let me ask again, what shady business, stealing coins from customers, did you uncover ?
Who did you protect ?

2)
What do you propose, as a solution, for the issues you see ?
There is no such things as a perfect system, and I am always on my lookout whenever someone introduces a "perfect system" to me.

If how the trust works is an issue to you, you should try to trade with people having their trust scores very far in the negative.
According to your standards, isn't this a sign of trustworthiness ?

Maybe I am getting that wrong, so what do you propose as an alternative to how the trust is currently handled ?
I am sure that we will agree on the fact that, when there is money involved, there must be some way to show the collective perception and recognition of users.
Otherwise, any trade would be impossible.

So, we hear your points ; how should that be handled according to you ?

[TheNewAnon135246]

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I have an idea. The new forum software is publically available. How about you, Cryptohunter and every other person that wants to be DT so desperately go start your own forum? Repo can be found here: https://github.com/epochtalk

Good luck!

Would that not leave the rest of this board vulnerable and to scammers and liars like your friends?  How uncaring would those members be if they just left?
Why don't you guys all go to another board. you could call it bigcontalk and perform your human centipede merit and trust behavior there? Biggest scammer takes all?  I will lurk just to enjoy the show.

1. You have no idea who my friends are.
2. Please explain what human centipede merit is.
3. Why would I want more merit?
4. Point me towards any unjustified negative feedback I have left.
5. Stop complaining about DT in general, just because a few members have negged your main and alt accounts.

[Foxpup]

2. Please explain what human centipede merit is.

I'm curious about that myself. I know for a fact that the merit arse licking has always been more or less evenly distributed, at least among the invited participants of the merit orgies; I don't know why The-One thinks it's a strictly linear hierarchy.

[YOSHIE]

Thanks to your shitty trust feedback and known abuse of a small group your board is sinking in total choas.

@Thule, Your words reminded me of the history of 2004, the tsunami that occurred in parts of the Asian continent that sank thousands of people, and the city of Sodom (Popay) also sank homo sexsual people, who lived and left people who were good and noble hearts.

Certainly with that incident now the people and the sinking country are now prosperous and fertile with the arrival of new residents.

I also think, Forum is a joke played by @theymos and controlled, it is not difficult for @theymos to drown thousands of people on this Forum if he wants.
You know and also me, all those who came to this Forum were not invited. Maybe every day people register on this Forum with a new account, why should people come here if it's an unclear reason, of course there is purpose and purpose.

I think @theymos doesn't sink, with spam, on this Forum. It is precisely the members who are drowning, with the Legendary account banned here, will return to their origin, finish their history.

This is the world of the internet which can be turned off at any time, nothing lasts here, it's just a joke to live in the internet world one moment will be destroyed. Like karun, the treasure is abundant and sinks into the earth.

[Thule]

I really think you should just make another account or even find somewhere else to post.

You’re in the minority of people who are supposedly so dissatisfied at the way the forum is run.

You know its nice you just admitted even the people who red tagged me couldn't show me a single proof that i scammed someone or even tried to scam someone that its better to open a new account instead of hoping for justice.

I got red taggs from DT members for something which theymos cleary said is an abuse of the trust feedback.

Do these DT members even care about his opinion ?

They don't all they care is to destroy people who want to change the status quo.

Its getting louder since more and more people get abused and they are unsatisfied of losing their old accounts.

Why should someone open a new account on bitcointalk just because a group of punks abuse the trust feedback destroying massiv amount of accounts but can't show a single user who have been scammed.

These people are here for only one reason which is money.

Based on their pseudo reputation they make more money and try to contral bitcointalk.

I mean a good example is yobits signature campaign.

Yahoo even unasked to be their campaign manager started a thread putting him himself into the position of their campaign manager in the name of forum post quality.

Of course they didn't contacted yobit directly asking to change their terms but instead support yahoo.

Why do they support yahoo ?

Because yobits offer is a high paying offer (if currently not the highest) where yahoo would lower the amount of post for the same amount of money and would add of course all his buddies (as always) into the signature campaign so they could get the benefit from it.

Its always the same game.The campaign manager will make good money for running the campaign and the signature participants will support  yahoo as campaign manager for their own benefit to get accepted and a high paying signature campaign.


I can guarantee you would this people not make money out of this forum they wouldn't be active in that forum anymore.

They hide behind the good of that forum where in reality all matters is power and money which they get thanks to the occasations they get with their power.

May I ask, who did you protect from a scam ? What shady business did you uncover ?
"The DT system" is not an answer. "The DT system" is not a business.

Actually we protect that community more from scammers than Lauda did.

For example i exposed Quarks scam and saved ton of people
Cryptohunter also exposed some projects.
There are many old members who exposed scams.

What Lauda is doing by tagging for any shit is not protecting people.
Calling somebody a scammer because he bought for example an account without even trying to scam is abuse.

How else can you explain that Lauda denied tagging many people who clearly tried to sell and buy accounts with the explanation that they don't deserve it  ?

So if Lauda knows someone than he is not a scammer when selling an account but when Lauda doesn't know someone then he is instantly a scammer.

[TheNewAnon135246]

These people are here for only one reason which is money.

Based on their pseudo reputation they make more money and try to contral bitcointalk.

Please tell me how this works. I want to make money from being a DT member.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Soon there will be no more much members left which won't be tagged as scammers.

Well, if people would stop coming here and immediately jump into doing shady things, there wouldn't be so many of them getting tagged.  The sad fact is that most noobs come here for the job opportunity the forum provides, e.g., the new Yobit campaign with standards so low even an ant would have to strain its eyes looking down trying to find them.

Why are you still here?  I thought you had gone away.  I was hoping you'd gone away, maybe.

Please tell me how this works. I want to make money from being a DT member.

Being on DT did help get me accepted into the Chipmixer campaign, or at least that's my assumption anyway, but it wasn't something I planned or worked to achieve--it just sort of happened that I got put on DT and ended up applying.  That's the only way I've ever come near making money by being on DT, but I had been in campaigns before I was on the list.  They just didn't pay as much as Chipmixer.  Sometimes I get the feeling that non-DT members have delusions as to what being on it is like. 

Clearly that's the case with Thule and some others, who probably should be getting help with psychiatric afflictions in an institution with supervised smoke breaks and the like, instead of roaming about in the free world with access to computers and keyboards.

2. Please explain what human centipede merit is.

LOL.  I get the reference, and I actually love that movie.  As it pertains to the merit system, that's another delusion in the heads of Thule, cryptoscunter, their alts, and probably a lot of other members as well.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

2. Please explain what human centipede merit is.

I'm curious about that myself. I know for a fact that the merit arse licking has always been more or less evenly distributed, at least among the invited participants of the merit orgies; I don't know why The-One thinks it's a strictly linear hierarchy.

Some of us Merit cyclers are very attractive human beings. I certainly wouldn’t want my face sown up to cryptohunter’s or Thule’s ugly fat ass, would you?

Merit cycling orgies are a very strict, on invitation only gathering.

[2girls]

These people are here for only one reason which is money.

Based on their pseudo reputation they make more money and try to contral bitcointalk.

Please tell me how this works. I want to make money from being a DT member.

Are you so innocent that you do not know how to make money with a DT label at your back ? Let me tell you HOW ?
You will get to manage the most highest paying campaigns and you can enter your friends and/or your unknown alts with in campaign. With Red turst abuse, you can rule out the competition. I can write a book on it but do not have time to develop your common sense. 

[Thule]

Well, if people would stop coming here and immediately jump into doing shady things, there wouldn't be so many of them getting tagged.

How does it come you haven't a red tagg for your racist posts ?

Or Bruno for selling an account ?Or suchmoon for buying?Or even the bought account ?


How does it come you are not getting tagged for something everyone else outside of that gang gets tagged?
DT members tagging a bought account of bruno and once suchmoon asks to remove the red taggs everyone removing it.


Quite sad isn't it ?

[Quickseller]

Judging by the number of rage posts Thue recently posted and his seemingly recent inactivity, I am guessing he recently had a temp ban expire.

I am not defending his behavior (I am personally annoyed by his [and others] posting habits), but I really don't know what anyone expects someone like Thue to act when in his situation. Most of his negative trust was received as a result of him defending himself, and he originally received negative trust for doing something that is explicitly allowed per the forum rules. Before anyone bring this up, no scamming is not allowed per the forum rules, the forum does not moderate scams -- there is a big difference; also if you scam someone and this has been proven, the administration may out you when you try to come back under alternate accounts, and this has been done many times.

I don't find it unreasonable that he is trying to defend his reputation. This is what most people initially do when they receive negative trust for arbitrary reasons, but most people usually rage quit, except Thue has decided to continue defending himself. If nothing is going to be done to address his trust situation, and his behavior is unacceptable, then he might as well be permanently banned now because I don't see any reason why the end result will be anything different, and it would save everyone the trouble of having to see his off topic posts. I don't think this is a desirable outcome (quite the opposite actually), this is just the reality of the situation.

I don't think suchmoon should get tagged for buying one of Bruno's accounts. Suchmoon does have a decent amount of trust, a lot of merit, and is on many people's trust lists. If someone was looking from the outside, and saw suchmoon do something, they would reasonably think, based on her stats that it would be acceptable to engage in similar behavior. Suchmoon is not the only person who has bought/sold forum accounts that can be described this way.

Some have argued they don't want to go back "far in time" to tag people who have engaged in this activity. However I would ask those who regularly tag these types of people what they would say if someone saw that a very "senior" (lot of good trust related stats) forum member did something, and assumed this was acceptable behavior, and proceeds to engage in similar behavior?