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April 22, 2019, 02:25:52 PM
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What does signature campaigns mean for DT abusers ?

The question can be easily answered.
It means these abusers lose their power.
If nobody gives shit anymore because of their abusive negative feedbacks and still get accepted into profitable signature campaigns it means majority of people will stop taking trust feedback serious anymore as it will have no massiv effect anymore.
Its a good direction since the forum is now searching their own solution without the DT members and their Default Trust as because of the massiv abuse it can't be trusted anymore and gets automaticly useless.

Of course at the same time these abusive DT members try everything to keep their status quo and the significance of the Default Trust system by trying to force Yobit to only accept users they allow to use on their signature campaign.
Yahoo even not asked by Yobit instantly tried to get himself into the campaign manager position to get that campaign instantly under their control.

I hope more signature campaigns will follow this route as it would make the Default Trust which has been massivly abused meaningless.

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April 22, 2019, 02:29:52 PM
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argument invalid

I wasn't in a sig campaign when I negged crtyopuhtner
being or not in one won't change me and how I interract with the board

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April 22, 2019, 02:31:23 PM
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argument invalid

I wasn't in a sig campaign when I negged crtyopuhtner
being or not in one won't change me and how I interract with the board

You are cleary unable to read because else i couldn't explain your nonsense posting

The thread is about when signature campaigns will accept negative trusted members the meaning of negative feedback will lose its power and at the same time the DT abusers will lose their power.

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April 22, 2019, 02:32:38 PM
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You are cleary unable to read because else i couldn't explain your nonsense posting

Are you talking to yourself ?
I must agree with hilariousetc ; my opinion is that is a sign of mental illness.

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April 22, 2019, 02:34:17 PM
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You are cleary unable to read because else i couldn't explain your nonsense posting

Are you talking to yourself ?
I must agree with hilariousetc ; my opinion is that is a sign of mental illness.

I know no arguments or working brain always leave to such actions

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April 22, 2019, 02:35:18 PM
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You are cleary unable to read because else i couldn't explain your nonsense posting

What does signature campaigns mean for DT abusers ?
It means these abusers lose their power.

Signature campaign == abusers lose power.



Whose nonsense posting ?

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April 22, 2019, 02:39:29 PM
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You are cleary unable to read because else i couldn't explain your nonsense posting


The thread is about when signature campaigns will accept negative trusted members the meaning of negative feedback will lose its power and at the same time the DT abusers will lose their power.

What does signature campaigns mean for DT abusers ?
It means these abusers lose their power.

Signature campaign == abusers lose power.




I know for your small brain its hard to understand but at the same day a negative rating won't have any impact for majority of abused users (signature campaign) will mean they will give shit about DT tagging turning it into meaningless shit where it currently deserve to be.

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April 22, 2019, 02:47:56 PM
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Why you always saying that DT members are abusers didn't they have a reference when they Tag you?
As you can see in your trust list they all make sense, you got all of those negative feedbacks because you deserve it you did something wrong it was against the rules, how can that be hard to understand?

just because you think you are right doesn't mean you are correct, it doesn't change the fact that you did something wrong.


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April 22, 2019, 02:48:50 PM
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The thread is about when signature campaigns will accept negative trusted members the meaning of negative feedback will lose its power and at the same time the DT abusers will lose their power.

First: Only the shady sponsors of sig campaigns will accept users with negative trust.  DT didn't make those companies shady, their own reputation did.  Sponsoring the spamming of the forum by red-tagged accounts isn't going to help that reputation.  Birds of a feather, as they say.

Second: What power?  The power of persuasion?  That's all that DT status amounts to.  It's a review, and nothing more.  People can heed the warnings, or ignore them.  There's no "DT power" other than how prominently DT users' reviews is displayed.  That's all.  Go ahead and make it mean more than that if it pleases you, but it's still just a review.

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April 22, 2019, 03:09:22 PM
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Threads just like this only justify the ratings currently left on your account and quite possibly alts of you, otherwise you wouldn't be so pissed off at the world who is apparently holding you back.

What "power" do the DT people have? In most cases a rating is left to warn others about a users past actions. We do not control who a company hires 1 bit. The campaign managers are free to hire whom they wish. I myself being both DT and managing campaigns am gaining nothing from not allowing neg trusted users or completely mental users such as yourself into campaigns. I'm looking to keep cheaters out of campaigns, scammers out of campaigns, and spammers out of campaigns. Why should I hire these types?

Just an FYI. I don't have to be in DT to keep you from joining a campaign I manage. Whom a manager hires in a campaign is the companies decision and the manager. Has 0 to do with being DT.

Whom have I abused with my ratings? My rating on you is 100% accurate. This thread proves that. I don't tag spammers very often. I don't tag many account sellers unless unless it is found that they are selling high ranked accounts that could be used for big scams. My main focus is scammers. Cheating a campaign by enrolling multiple accounts, offering escrow services as a newbie, loan defaulters, etc.

When it comes to yobit, we have had 1 message back and forth and that's all. I'm not trying to strongarm them into hiring me or any other manager. They are free to hire any manager they want or use no manager at all. You personally should look at suchmoons post in reputation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134469.0, then take a look at the participants in said Yobit campaign. Go through each of the 700+ participants. Take a look at their post history and see what kind of trash they are posting. Take a look at all the 1 liner spam. Take a look at how many inactive accounts suddenly woke up to join the campaign. Just take a damn look period.

My thread asking opinions on being a manager for them, if the job was offered, was simply how is the forum going to react? If you cannot see that that campaign needs some kind of manager then you are blind.

Maybe you don't care about the forum and have 100 accounts and feel you should be free to earn money any way you can. If someone is scammed by 1 of your accounts then it's their fault right?

The DT system is there to HELP people. There are some abusers, I agree 100% but they're not after you and you alone. You made yourself be noticed and with the dumb stuff you post of course you're gonna reap some negatives from it.

If you want to be taken seriously, then take your medicine and come back to the forum with a clear head and better attitude.


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April 22, 2019, 03:37:38 PM
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You are cleary unable to read because else i couldn't explain your nonsense posting

Are you talking to yourself ?
I must agree with hilariousetc ; my opinion is that is a sign of mental illness.

Please do not insult people with your stupid remarks. You are a known trust abuser, and an observable supporter of scammers and liars. If you want me to produce evidence of this request it. This mental illness claim is all they have left when you destroy the rest of their straw men and false accusations in public.

Yahoo trying to help promote a scam site like yobit, just tells you all you need to know about this person. These people have no issue pushing scams on people, and luring people on to sites like yobit, for some extra btc for themselves.

Look at the amount of projects stating yobit are creating their own artificial markets by pulling wallets offline? and keeping them off line for months or years. The site is a SURE way for newbies to get burned. Buy some coins there that you do not realize are off line or just get pulled off line for no reason after you buy. That is the end of your investment or get ready to take a HUGE hair cut. Some of these projects they are running on the OLD chains after there were swaps or hard forks. Totally bogus markets.

We need to start bringing under the spotlight the actions of campaign managers here. They need to present a strong case for not employing a first come first served acceptance. Any person being turned away should demand public analysis or it is untrustworthy discrimination on the basis of observable liars, trust abusers and scammers.  If the campaign manager can NOT provide strong case that you are a scammer or that your posts do not meet the threshold required of other posters then they will be held accountable. The projects hiring managers that are seemingly reserving spots for their "friends" or getting "kick backs" will be called out if they hire them. No more pushing accountability to the "trust" system or any other bogus and gamed metric like merit.

We will push for fair and equal treatment for all members. The selection process should be transparent. The entire model from start to finish is completely open for abuse and gaming.  They want to game this place for their own personal selfish reasons. Hit them where it hurts with their sponsors. No point appealing to other DT or mods they are direct beneficiaries of this abuse. The sponsors reputation is the weak point.  Present only the truth and observable instances and you can not lose. Prove they are allowing observably untrustworthy individuals in on their projects and the project is very vulnerable to criticism. They will not want that. Especially new projects.
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Of course at the same time these abusive DT members try everything to keep their status quo and the significance of the Default Trust system by trying to force Yobit to only accept users they allow to use on their signature campaign.
Yahoo even not asked by Yobit instantly tried to get himself into the campaign manager position to get that campaign instantly under their control.
I can only speak for myself of course, but I'm not desperately clinging onto DT status or trying to maintain my own status quo.  I didn't ask to be on DT--that was the community voting with their trust, just like with every other member on DT.  I've been off DT before and have functioned just fine, and if I get kicked off of it again or the whole system goes down in flames, I'll be fine with that too.

As to the bolded part of your nearly incomprehensible statement, I don't understand what you're getting at.  My impression was that Yobit contacted Yahoo62278 first, not the other way around.  And I don't understand what his DT status has to do with anything related to him being a campaign manager or with his ability/willingness to be Yobit's manager. 

I'd ask you to elaborate further, but I don't really care.  All of what you've written in this thread and others are just shambolic diatribes that nobody takes seriously if they can even decipher them.  I certainly doubt Theymos is reading what you're writing and planning new changes accordingly.

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haha good joke.
Ass buring what will happen when projects won't need campaign managers anymore which are in the favour of the gang ?

Negative ratings are to warn people about scammers or people who tried to scam.
You guys haven't shown till today a single person who i scammed.
My negative ratings are from a try to buy an account to be able to post images for a friend since there was no copper membership at that time.
Forum rules clearly said at that time its allowed to buy an account.I even asked a Mod for permission.
There was no info i will get my account destroyed by punks because of that.
When questioning the negative tagg calling me a scammer i got flooded with negative tagg by the known gang.
The other flood of negative tagg is according to theymos an abuse of DT power.DT members know it but still give a shit.

Let's talk about Lauda,ThePharamacist,Blaze you etc who wanted to force the forum your vision of campaign management.
You openly talked about implementing a rule that bounty campaigns will be only allowed to run their bounty with approved campaign managers who will only use bounty hunters which are in their favour ......

The ultimate power to control signatur campaign.
But the best part is coming.To make sure to enforce that you guys decided to defame any project as scam not important if it legit or not if it's not going to accept your terms.

Thats the shady part you guys tried to implement.
It was openly to read since you fuckers didn't even tried to hide that plan.


Btw why are your threads self moderated and you delete legit comments that promiting unlicensed casinos is by law ilegal trying to warn other members ?
Are you against informing your signatur participants that this kind of promotion is by law ilegal and that they can be held responsible for that?

This behavior looks scammy to me.


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My impression was that Yobit contacted Yahoo62278 first
He was never contacted by Yobit.He brought himself in play as possible campaign manager for Yobit getting support for it by opening his thread

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First: Only the shady sponsors of sig campaigns will accept users with negative trust.  DT didn't make those companies shady, their own reputation did.

I know a lot of legit projects which accepted negative trust.Hhampuz also accepted now one.

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