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April 23, 2019, 04:34:10 PM
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It's been proved an early miner of bitcoin mined around 1 million bitcoins and there are many theories about the dominant miner being satoshi itself.
Sergio Demian Lerner had made an extensive study about early stages of bitcoin mining and many other independent research were close to his one.
Is bitcoin a large premined coin? Is hidden identity of satoshi nakamoto not just a humble act?

https://news.bitcoin.com/strong-evidence-suggests-a-single-entity-mined-more-than-1-million-bitcoin/

https://blog.bitmex.com/satoshis-1-million-bitcoin/


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April 24, 2019, 07:06:04 AM
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I don't think it's only bitcoin that has a premine as much as that, some other coins even have more premine that bitcoin has, the only difference is that those coins haven't grew in price to the height which bitcoin is currently and might not get to that height even in years to come.

Hence, I don't see any reason why anyone will say bitcoin is shady, satoshi created a platform that has made a lot of persons millionaires and still making much more millionaires, so I don't see any reason why he shouldn't get a reward of 1 million bitcoins.
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April 24, 2019, 07:08:13 AM
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No bitcoin is not shady and every transactions and mining rewards have been recorded on the blockchain, everything is decentralized. Its just that the early miners always get more because they take risk on mining that. That was their reward in doing so, they believe in the technology itself.

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April 24, 2019, 07:10:35 AM
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I can say if its an absolutely a big nope. Bitcoin is where the cryptocoins is started so i think bitcoin must be appreciated.
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April 24, 2019, 07:59:58 AM
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It's been proved an early miner of bitcoin mined around 1 million bitcoins and there are many theories about the dominant miner being satoshi itself.
Sergio Demian Lerner had made an extensive study about early stages of bitcoin mining and many other independent research were close to his one.
Is bitcoin a large premined coin? Is hidden identity of satoshi nakamoto not just a humble act?

https://news.bitcoin.com/strong-evidence-suggests-a-single-entity-mined-more-than-1-million-bitcoin/

https://blog.bitmex.com/satoshis-1-million-bitcoin/

For you maybe it is shady, but majority of the bitcoin enthusiast are not agree on it for sure. We all know here that through blockchain technology Bitcoin was created by Nakamoto Satoshi and through Bitcoin's too altcoin was created too, and now even We faced bear market period through altcoins We still get profit in it for to have bitcoin in the future.
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April 24, 2019, 08:04:32 AM
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That 1M supply didnt even moved. You need to consider the difficulty of mining by that time, think of it that theres no competitor by that time. And you can mine as much as bitcoincthat you want so satoshi did.

And why is it that bitcoin is being called shady? these articles are creating click bait titles for the sake of views and traffic. We are all thankful here to satoshi and if ever he goes back and take a pinch from 1M supply, he deserves it.

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April 24, 2019, 08:07:22 AM
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I don't think bitcoin is shady
In fact, i think it is one of a genuine idea of a new born tech

Bitcoin founder didn't ask us to spent money to buy Bitcoin
All he do is just create a decentralized protocol so everyone could have a "fair" and "transparent" view of a database of records which stored using specific method
In exchange, you get Bitcoin for that
So, not shady for me
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April 24, 2019, 08:22:37 AM
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was created by Nakamoto Satoshi
i thing most popular is Satoshi nakamoto Founder. even japannese family name put behind main name will different mean.
Bitcoin isn't shady, i am not sure satoshi have 1 million premined bitcoin. he present new payment

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April 24, 2019, 08:44:01 AM
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Just like many things in life, those that got there ahead of anyone else and invested time and effort when others saw no value get the lions share of the rewards. I do not begrudge those that had the foresight to get involved at the beginning from growing rich of their early adoption. Whether the first million coins were mined by Satoshi or not make no difference to what Bitcoin is now.

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April 24, 2019, 08:46:11 AM
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It's been proved an early miner of bitcoin mined around 1 million bitcoins and there are many theories about the dominant miner being satoshi itself.
Sergio Demian Lerner had made an extensive study about early stages of bitcoin mining and many other independent research were close to his one.
Is bitcoin a large premined coin? Is hidden identity of satoshi nakamoto not just a humble act?

https://news.bitcoin.com/strong-evidence-suggests-a-single-entity-mined-more-than-1-million-bitcoin/

https://blog.bitmex.com/satoshis-1-million-bitcoin/

I've read some more news about this. However, I think the person who has a mining equipment to this extent could not be kept hidden. Satoshi, or someone else, was sure to have such a large capacity of mining equipment. Today, even Bitmain's operations can be monitored meticulously.
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April 24, 2019, 08:51:33 AM
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Satoshi will definitely have the most bitcoins as he was the developer of the crypto and other altcoins came after this first cryptocurrency. Having premined over 1 million coins doesn't make it look shady as even Ethereum was 70% premined (72m ETH) before being launched. Also, most of the coins haven't been spent.

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April 24, 2019, 09:03:05 AM
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If one day, the devs of thoses coins decide to sell all their coins, i can imagine the face of the investors. Look at WhaleCoin, ZClassic, Bitcoin Private for examples.
I hope it never happens. But who knows?
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April 24, 2019, 09:58:01 AM
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It's been proved an early miner of bitcoin mined around 1 million bitcoins and there are many theories about the dominant miner being satoshi itself.
WRONG.
it has been guessed or estimated that in early years due to the fact that there hasn't been that many users, Satoshi might have mined many blocks himself which again the numbers are guessed to be around 800k which people are rounding up to 1 mil!

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Sergio Demian Lerner had made an extensive study about early stages of bitcoin mining and many other independent research were close to his one.
Is bitcoin a large premined coin?
newbies like this "Sergio Demian Lerner" first have to learn terminology and then make statements and you should too before quoting them.
premine is a term used when a coin hardcodes a certain amount that is going into the wallet of the developer before release.
that 1 million coin you are guessing here was mined over the course of a year while others have also been mining. that is not called "premine".

besides all this nonsense was said here without any talk about the title of this topic. why do you think bitcoin is shady?!! just because someone chose to mine while you were refusing to even bother checking what bitcoin is and mine? nobody was preventing YOU from mining too but you chose not to. that is not "shady".

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Last edit: April 24, 2019, 10:41:18 AM by Coolcryptovator
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Pre mine coin doesn't prove shady really. We don't know at the beginning who have mine bitcoin who is holding now. Really bitcoin isn't traceable so we can't identify it. At the beginning miners earned a handsome quantity of bitcoin. And slowly community become big, at the same time mining firm also increased. However, as far as I know it was not pre mined, total supply is only 21 million and it will be filled by 2040 as far as I know. So we can't really call bitcoin as a shady coin. There is lot of potential coin with pre mine supply. It doesn't prove it's all shady coin. So how we will consider bitcoin is shady coin?

FYI, satoshi wasn't premined bitcoin. Perhaps he mined it. You can read this thread for more info: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=408060.0

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April 25, 2019, 11:05:45 AM
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It's been proved an early miner of bitcoin mined around 1 million bitcoins and there are many theories about the dominant miner being satoshi itself.
Sergio Demian Lerner had made an extensive study about early stages of bitcoin mining and many other independent research were close to his one.
Is bitcoin a large premined coin? Is hidden identity of satoshi nakamoto not just a humble act?

https://news.bitcoin.com/strong-evidence-suggests-a-single-entity-mined-more-than-1-million-bitcoin/

https://blog.bitmex.com/satoshis-1-million-bitcoin/
All this things are just speculation and opinions that does not matter, people will always think whatever they want to think because it is a free world, that is why Craig could boldly come up to say he is satoshi, just because the main satoshi is being humble by keep his distance.

Satoshi cannot be the dominant miner, I am not doubting that he is mining, but looking at his activity and creativity, we will notice that he has created a transparent system and I think for now, the system of bitcoin he has created is not a shady one, and would not do anything that will jeopardize the success of what will glorify his name in the long run.
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April 25, 2019, 08:40:32 PM
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was created by Nakamoto Satoshi
i thing most popular is Satoshi nakamoto Founder. even japannese family name put behind main name will different mean.
Bitcoin isn't shady, i am not sure satoshi have 1 million premined bitcoin. he present new payment
Many articles like this one;
https://news.bitcoin.com/people-keep-sending-satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin/

has existed and tells that satoshi owns more than 1 million bitcoin, do the Math on how much it is exactly right now. And you know what? there's also BCH and other fork coins for that address.

You may also read it on wiki;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto

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April 26, 2019, 01:31:34 AM
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It's been proved an early miner of bitcoin mined around 1 million bitcoins and there are many theories about the dominant miner being satoshi itself.
Sergio Demian Lerner had made an extensive study about early stages of bitcoin mining and many other independent research were close to his one.
Is bitcoin a large premined coin? Is hidden identity of satoshi nakamoto not just a humble act?

https://news.bitcoin.com/strong-evidence-suggests-a-single-entity-mined-more-than-1-million-bitcoin/

https://blog.bitmex.com/satoshis-1-million-bitcoin/

If it is really true that there are still early miners holding more than 1mil bitcoin, then it is not good.
Can you provide the address that holding the million of bitcoin here ? If they can show the address as a proof,
the community will become more aware about this case.

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April 26, 2019, 01:56:15 AM
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Satoshi will definitely have the most bitcoins as he was the developer of the crypto and other altcoins came after this first cryptocurrency. Having premined over 1 million coins doesn't make it look shady as even Ethereum was 70% premined (72m ETH) before being launched. Also, most of the coins haven't been spent.
It becomes shady because of its anonymity and the rest is just an speculation. Many coins have a premined before the launched it beause they have to store some coins in order for them also to make money and protect its own coin. Well, having more bitcoin with like this is normal for a great developer. Shady coins are the shitcoins who are still in the market even if they don't have use so better to be scared on this than with bitcoin.
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April 26, 2019, 02:34:57 AM
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Nah i don't think so. If bitcoin is the most shady coin then why the price of bitcoin is really high and the most expensive right now? People still trusting bitcoin and no one believe bitcoin is a shady. In my opinion bitcoin is not shady there are many coins out there that more shaddy.
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April 26, 2019, 03:04:34 AM
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Bitcoin from the very beginning was created completely transparent, open source. No matter who Satoshi Nakamoto is, we cannot lay claim to him for the fact that in the early period he had namynil many bitcoins. This is the privilege of the discoverers. If he did, he acted wisely. He deserved to spend the rest of his life at his pleasure somewhere on his own island with a heavenly climate.
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