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May 05, 2019, 02:38:40 AM
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Is anyone on this topic going to bet on Canelo vs Jacobs ?

On our local sports betting bar the odds are 1.20 for Canelo and 4.21 for Jacobs.
Yeah, i did but not that much though. I'm on Jacobs, high risk high reward but no miracles needed here  Smiley.

Some drama on the weigh-in, is that part of the script?

Never seen the video yet, but I guess they wanted to put more hype specially at weigh-in. So probably part of the script because they needed to put casual boxing fans in the sit to watch the fight.

Jacobs as others said, is a live dog and the odds are enticing. might be worth the risk.  Grin
Boxing is entertainment, they surely find ways to entice people in watching this one.
Jacobs give good odds but you can play it for fun because we all know how good Canelo is and he can knock this guy out, if he wants to.

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May 05, 2019, 05:01:36 AM
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It was a closed decision by Canelo and unify the belt. The scores were 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112. All I can say? This could be a draw, 114-114.  Anyways, I think Jacobs did good in the early round to take the lead and Canelo may have overtaken it according to the judges in the later round, but that's just me and not taking anything from Canelo though.

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May 05, 2019, 05:56:22 AM
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Is anyone on this topic going to bet on Canelo vs Jacobs ?

On our local sports betting bar the odds are 1.20 for Canelo and 4.21 for Jacobs.
Yeah, i did but not that much though. I'm on Jacobs, high risk high reward but no miracles needed here  Smiley.

Some drama on the weigh-in, is that part of the script?

I watched the weigh-in and it looks like no drama to me. Jacobs is really pump about this fight and so is Alvarez. Both fighters needs to be restrain by their crew.

However, in the fight, it looks like Jacobs fell short on the judges score card. He threw a lot of punches but non has impacted Canelo. Good win for Alvarez to unify the belt. But it was a close fight but I give the edge to Alvarez.

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May 05, 2019, 10:11:28 AM
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It was a closed decision by Canelo and unify the belt. The scores were 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112. All I can say? This could be a draw, 114-114.  Anyways, I think Jacobs did good in the early round to take the lead and Canelo may have overtaken it according to the judges in the later round, but that's just me and not taking anything from Canelo though.

I would have given a draw. Same was with GGG. Close fight, could be a draw, but the judges game win to Canelo, as for more famous and popular fighter.

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May 05, 2019, 12:07:32 PM
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It was a closed decision by Canelo and unify the belt. The scores were 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112. All I can say? This could be a draw, 114-114.  Anyways, I think Jacobs did good in the early round to take the lead and Canelo may have overtaken it according to the judges in the later round, but that's just me and not taking anything from Canelo though.

I would have given a draw. Same was with GGG. Close fight, could be a draw, but the judges game win to Canelo, as for more famous and popular fighter.

I really thought that I was just the only person who see the fight as a draw. Yes, it was a close fight, but it was boring though, compare to Canelo vs GGG or GGG vs Jacobs. Gonna be interesting to see what will be the PPV numbers in this fight. Seems that it didn't generated enough buzz, although Canelo is the A side here and held during Cinco de Mayo, so let's see.

 
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May 05, 2019, 01:37:33 PM
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It was a closed decision by Canelo and unify the belt. The scores were 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112. All I can say? This could be a draw, 114-114.  Anyways, I think Jacobs did good in the early round to take the lead and Canelo may have overtaken it according to the judges in the later round, but that's just me and not taking anything from Canelo though.
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I really thought that I was just the only person who see the fight as a draw. Yes, it was a close fight, but it was boring though, compare to Canelo vs GGG or GGG vs Jacobs. Gonna be interesting to see what will be the PPV numbers in this fight. Seems that it didn't generated enough buzz, although Canelo is the A side here and held during Cinco de Mayo, so let's see.
This is expected, the only way for Jacobs to win the fight is through a knockout, that might be the reason why he did not met the contracted weight the morning of the fight. He looked the bigger fighter but Canelo have outsmarted him as he is lighter and quicker to avoid those power punches of Jacobs. He may have hurt Canelo in the 9th round but not enough to put him on the canvass. Boxing judges sucks but people in the venue, majority maybe Mexicans as it is the Cinco de Mayo weekend were happy of the result.

GGG on ringside, hoping for that 3rd fight with Canelo.

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May 05, 2019, 02:06:57 PM
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It was a closed decision by Canelo and unify the belt. The scores were 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112. All I can say? This could be a draw, 114-114.  Anyways, I think Jacobs did good in the early round to take the lead and Canelo may have overtaken it according to the judges in the later round, but that's just me and not taking anything from Canelo though.
~snip~

I really thought that I was just the only person who see the fight as a draw. Yes, it was a close fight, but it was boring though, compare to Canelo vs GGG or GGG vs Jacobs. Gonna be interesting to see what will be the PPV numbers in this fight. Seems that it didn't generated enough buzz, although Canelo is the A side here and held during Cinco de Mayo, so let's see.
This is expected, the only way for Jacobs to win the fight is through a knockout, that might be the reason why he did not met the contracted weight the morning of the fight. He looked the bigger fighter but Canelo have outsmarted him as he is lighter and quicker to avoid those power punches of Jacobs. He may have hurt Canelo in the 9th round but not enough to put him on the canvass. Boxing judges sucks but people in the venue, majority maybe Mexicans as it is the Cinco de Mayo weekend were happy of the result.

GGG on ringside, hoping for that 3rd fight with Canelo.
As far as I know GGG sign with DAZN as well so there is a possibility that a big third fight is on the horizon. Jacobs is the taller fighter, but as you have said, Canelo adjusted specially when Jacobs is moving. Yes, I would also assumed that Canelo has a lot of Mexican fights so another reason to celebrate Cinco de Mayo.

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May 06, 2019, 01:17:10 AM
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It was a closed decision by Canelo and unify the belt. The scores were 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112. All I can say? This could be a draw, 114-114.  Anyways, I think Jacobs did good in the early round to take the lead and Canelo may have overtaken it according to the judges in the later round, but that's just me and not taking anything from Canelo though.
~snip~

I really thought that I was just the only person who see the fight as a draw. Yes, it was a close fight, but it was boring though, compare to Canelo vs GGG or GGG vs Jacobs. Gonna be interesting to see what will be the PPV numbers in this fight. Seems that it didn't generated enough buzz, although Canelo is the A side here and held during Cinco de Mayo, so let's see.
This is expected, the only way for Jacobs to win the fight is through a knockout, that might be the reason why he did not met the contracted weight the morning of the fight. He looked the bigger fighter but Canelo have outsmarted him as he is lighter and quicker to avoid those power punches of Jacobs. He may have hurt Canelo in the 9th round but not enough to put him on the canvass. Boxing judges sucks but people in the venue, majority maybe Mexicans as it is the Cinco de Mayo weekend were happy of the result.

GGG on ringside, hoping for that 3rd fight with Canelo.
As far as I know GGG sign with DAZN as well so there is a possibility that a big third fight is on the horizon. Jacobs is the taller fighter, but as you have said, Canelo adjusted specially when Jacobs is moving. Yes, I would also assumed that Canelo has a lot of Mexican fights so another reason to celebrate Cinco de Mayo.

Yes he did (https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/ggg-signs-with-dazn-canelo-alvarez-trilogy-and-more-fights-to-make-for-gennady-golovkin/). So there is a chance that we might see a trilogy after all.

And according to Canelo:

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For me, it’s over,” Alvarez said about his rivalry with Golovkin. “But if the people want another fight, we’ll do it again, and I’ll beat him again.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-if-people-want-another-golovkin-fight-ill-beat-him-again--138697

For me the fight fell short of expectations. More of a chess match, back and forth fight adjustments (Canelo going south paw) and eventhough there are round that are exciting like the 8th and the 9th, it doesn't have the excitement that a Canelo and GGG fight. So bring the 3rd fight in the table, it could bring more money for both fighters.


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May 06, 2019, 03:11:34 AM
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It was a closed decision by Canelo and unify the belt. The scores were 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112. All I can say? This could be a draw, 114-114.  Anyways, I think Jacobs did good in the early round to take the lead and Canelo may have overtaken it according to the judges in the later round, but that's just me and not taking anything from Canelo though.

I would have given a draw. Same was with GGG. Close fight, could be a draw, but the judges game win to Canelo, as for more famous and popular fighter.

Yes, I think the first fight with GGG could go to Golovkin though. There's no way the judges could give it a draw as GGG was moving forward in that fight. Anyways, let's see a third fight with GGG so that Canelo would proved that he really win in those 2 controversial win.

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May 06, 2019, 03:21:26 AM
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Fight results

Canelo Alvarez def. Daniel Jacobs (35-2) via decision

Vergil Ortiz Jr. def. Mauricio Herrera via KO in Round 3

Lamont Roach Jr. def. Jonathan Oquendo via decision

Joseph Diaz Jr. def. Freddy Fonseca KO in Round 7

Anthony Young def. Sadam Ali via KO in Round 3

John Ryder def. Bilal Akkawy KO in Round 3

Alexis Espino def. Billy Wagner via decision

*Canelo Alvarez is expected to earn $35 Million USD on this fight while Daniel Jacobs is expected to earn a $10 Million (source cbssports)
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May 06, 2019, 05:37:56 AM
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Fight results
Canelo Alvarez def. Daniel Jacobs (35-2) via decision

Congrats on those who back Canelo Alvarez to win in this fight, though with small odds but it's a win.
Good fight for both, but Canelo Alvarez as the favorites is better in this fight, it was close if I'm going to score it.


*Canelo Alvarez is expected to earn $35 Million USD on this fight while Daniel Jacobs is expected to earn a $10 Million (source cbssports)

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Canelo Alvarez def. Daniel Jacobs (35-2) via decision

Congrats on those who back Canelo Alvarez to win in this fight, though with small odds but it's a win.
Good fight for both, but Canelo Alvarez as the favorites is better in this fight, it was close if I'm going to score it.


*Canelo Alvarez is expected to earn $35 Million USD on this fight while Daniel Jacobs is expected to earn a $10 Million (source cbssports)

Huge money, both are winners with this amount and king of sharing.

It could be the biggest purse for Daniel Jacobs as well. Win or lose he is guaranteed a cool $10 m. Canelo Alvarez is new the cash cow of boxing. I remember when Pacquiao was at his prime everyone wanted to fight him because it's a sweepstakes. And now we are seeing in it Canelo Alvarez.

What's next for him? He needs to face or go up in weight and face the next champion.


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Canelo = easy money  Cool

In my opinion, it was a boring fight and it was a draw...  But I understand why the judges gave it to Canelo... and it's because of the date and what Canelo represents for the Mexican people.

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May 07, 2019, 11:28:42 PM
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Canelo = easy money  Cool
But I understand why the judges gave it to Canelo.
If fairness to the judges and Canelo, I think the fight is not controversial enough to warrant a robbery unlike with his fights with GGG. Just what i have posted days ago that Jacobs only chance to steal the show is via knock-out but it didn't happen.

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nydiacaskey01- it was just $9 million on Jacobs. Why? because there was a clause in the fight wherein he needed to be just 170 lbs on the second day weigh in (prior to the fight), and a penalty of $1 million if he goes over that. Jacobs weigh in at 173 lbs. Interesting that we didn't hear this clause before the fight. I don't know if this affected Jacobs though.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-canelo-demanded-170-weight-clause-no-fight--138734

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May 08, 2019, 01:49:12 AM
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nydiacaskey01- it was $9 millions of Jacobs. Why? because there was a clause in the fight wherein he needed to be just 170 lbs on the second day weigh in (prior to the fight), and a penalty of $1 million if he goes over that. Jacobs weigh in at 173 lbs. Interesting that we didn't hear this clause before the fight. I don't know if this affected Jacobs though.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-canelo-demanded-170-weight-clause-no-fight--138734

That's what I was thinking also. Did it affect on his performance? The fight was so close but sadly, Jacobs didn't manage to knock out Canelo. If he did, no doubt he won that fight.
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May 08, 2019, 02:45:15 AM
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nydiacaskey01- it was $9 millions of Jacobs. Why? because there was a clause in the fight wherein he needed to be just 170 lbs on the second day weigh in (prior to the fight), and a penalty of $1 million if he goes over that. Jacobs weigh in at 173 lbs. Interesting that we didn't hear this clause before the fight. I don't know if this affected Jacobs though.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-canelo-demanded-170-weight-clause-no-fight--138734

That's what I was thinking also. Did it affect on his performance? The fight was so close but sadly, Jacobs didn't manage to knock out Canelo. If he did, no doubt he won that fight.

But he did go above 170 lbs so what effect are you guys talking about? Maybe there is a psychological effect here but I doubt it. Although this kind of clause looks very sketchy but there are fighters like Manny Pacquiao who implemented this kind of clause whenever the fights bigger fighter so there is no surprises here.

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May 09, 2019, 02:51:58 AM
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nydiacaskey01- it was $9 millions of Jacobs. Why? because there was a clause in the fight wherein he needed to be just 170 lbs on the second day weigh in (prior to the fight), and a penalty of $1 million if he goes over that. Jacobs weigh in at 173 lbs. Interesting that we didn't hear this clause before the fight. I don't know if this affected Jacobs though.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-canelo-demanded-170-weight-clause-no-fight--138734

That's what I was thinking also. Did it affect on his performance? The fight was so close but sadly, Jacobs didn't manage to knock out Canelo. If he did, no doubt he won that fight.

But he did go above 170 lbs so what effect are you guys talking about? Maybe there is a psychological effect here but I doubt it. Although this kind of clause looks very sketchy but there are fighters like Manny Pacquiao who implemented this kind of clause whenever the fights bigger fighter so there is no surprises here.

Probably the question is why did Canelo need that clause in the first place? Is he playing mind games off, are afraid that Jacobs rehydrating to like 175++ lbs? Also it was reveal prior to the fight, I think Canelo doesn't want media attacking him with that clause. But since he already won, no one did except Jacobs fans.  Grin

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May 09, 2019, 03:02:50 AM
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Probably the question is why did Canelo need that clause in the first place? Is he playing mind games off, are afraid that Jacobs rehydrating to like 175++ lbs? Also it was reveal prior to the fight, I think Canelo doesn't want media attacking him with that clause. But since he already won, no one did except Jacobs fans.  Grin
If we look at the tale of the tape, Daniel Jacobs is bigger than Canelo Alvarez by 9 centimeters or 3.6 inches and Daniel Jacobs reach is longer by 6 centimeters or 2.3 inches. I guess Canelo Alvarez want's to play it safe by asking for a clause so that Daniel Jacobs will not step in the ring with the weight where he is comfortable.
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May 09, 2019, 03:43:39 AM
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Canelo = easy money  Cool
But I understand why the judges gave it to Canelo.
If fairness to the judges and Canelo, I think the fight is not controversial enough to warrant a robbery unlike with his fights with GGG. Just what i have posted days ago that Jacobs only chance to steal the show is via knock-out but it didn't happen.

I would agree. But I think that there was no robbery because the need was not there. An unbiased jury might have given a draw. But still, a win for Canelo could be justified. You can convert a draw to a win for either of the fighters and hardly anyone would complain about it. But what happened during the fight against GGG was that the latter had clearly won the fight and the jury awarded it to Canelo. No sympathies for Jacobs. He knew that he needed a KO. And he was unable to do that.
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