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April 24, 2019, 04:52:23 PM
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I didn't try to make a "payment" for removing red trust. I mentioned a "ransom". As English writing person, I guess, you know the difference of both words.

You told that I'm elder than you. Yes my kid, For easy understand, think on this way...

Somebody hacks your computer and tell you that "give me $100 to recover files". Is it a payment or ransom?
And did anyone actually offer to remove your negative trust in exchange for a ransom? From your initial post, it seems you're the one making the offer, which makes it a bribe, not a ransom.

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I didn't try to make a "payment" for removing red trust. I mentioned a "ransom". As English writing person, I guess, you know the difference of both words.
Here's the difference: a ransom is a subset of a payment only when it is fulfilled and it is a subset of an invoice when it is not.

I have not asked anything of you before the thread's creation.

Here are my demands:

Give me an exclusive interview with the real Satoshi Nakamoto, Craig Wright.
Create a principled paper on why Bitcoin: Satoshi's Vision (the true Bitcoin!) should switch to 2GB blocks despite not needing a tenth of the maximum size.
Access satoshi's bitcoin addresses and send 1 million bitcoins to the 1BitcoinEater address.
That should handle it. Wink

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April 24, 2019, 05:07:40 PM
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I didn't try to make a "payment" for removing red trust. I mentioned a "ransom". As English writing person, I guess, you know the difference of both words.

You told that I'm elder than you. Yes my kid, For easy understand, think on this way...

Somebody hacks your computer and tell you that "give me $100 to recover files". Is it a payment or ransom?
And did anyone actually offer to remove your negative trust in exchange for a ransom? From your initial post, it seems you're the one making the offer, which makes it a bribe, not a ransom.

Not only does this make it a bribe, but it also makes it deflection of accountability.  Making an unethical offer, but using words like "ransom" in an attempt to divert responsibility and obfuscate the truth doesn't make it any less unethical.

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April 24, 2019, 05:08:36 PM
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I've had members PM me in the past asking this same question, and I would bet anything that it's a genuine one.  They probably come from countries/cultures where bribing officials and various government workers like cops is a daily thing.  It might even work with certain members here, and you just never know.
I would tend to agree with this. There are some countries in which the police will jail people on fake charges for the sole purpose of receiving a bribe and the only way to get out of jail is to bribe a government official, regardless of your guilt or innocence.

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I would have tagged OP as well had I seen the thread, which I didn't.  That's a silly idea anyway, OP.  A scammer could do a lot of things with your account that you'd never be able to control, and it would only encourage someone to shitpost as much as they could for a campaign like Yobit, assuming that one was still running.  It would be basically the same as an account sale, and those are frowned upon here. 
I would agree what the OP was doing was essentially a sale, or it would have the same effect.

Although I strongly disagree on the perceived harm to these transactions.

Perhaps it would be more appropriate to issue a warning to give the person a chance to withdraw their offer before their reputation is ruined.
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April 24, 2019, 05:12:43 PM
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I've had members PM me in the past asking this same question, and I would bet anything that it's a genuine one.  They probably come from countries/cultures where bribing officials and various government workers like cops is a daily thing.  It might even work with certain members here, and you just never know.

I would have tagged OP as well had I seen the thread, which I didn't.  That's a silly idea anyway, OP.  A scammer could do a lot of things with your account that you'd never be able to control, and it would only encourage someone to shitpost as much as they could for a campaign like Yobit, assuming that one was still running.  It would be basically the same as an account sale, and those are frowned upon here. 

Well answer for my question now...

Your know bitcointalk.org forum allows users to sell their accounts. At the moment your trust score is 168: -0 / +20 which means, anybody who knows bitcointalk.org trust system believes you at a deal.

Consider this situation...A user with highest rank and trust score sells his account to the scammer for a big price. Do I need to explain the result?

And,

Most definitely (Due to the behavior of Bitcoin world) scammers are already doing this kind of activities herein the forum. They may be legendary users,  Hero users...   Perhaps, DTs...

DTs may be getting an innocent fun by negative trusting anchovies. Unfortunately, they always fail at whales.

P.S: I expect a reply for this?


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April 24, 2019, 05:16:28 PM
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DTs may be getting an innocent fun by negative trusting anchovies. Unfortunately, they always fail at whales.
See: the Ryland case.

There should be many more but this is the one that I initiated and remember most-well.

Forum treasurer, account compromised, entered signature campaign.
It's survivor bias. Of course you'll see more anchovies than whales in the same pond.

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April 24, 2019, 05:24:55 PM
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Here are my demands:

Give me an exclusive interview with the real Satoshi Nakamoto, Craig Wright.
Create a principled paper on why Bitcoin: Satoshi's Vision (the true Bitcoin!) should switch to 2GB blocks despite not needing a tenth of the maximum size.
Access satoshi's bitcoin addresses and send 1 million bitcoins to the 1BitcoinEater address.
That should handle it. Wink

You're the person who red trusted me for the first time. I didn't care it too much till now. But, I've a big shame about my self now.

That's because, My account was red trusted by such a babyish DT user. Grin

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As long as Satoshi Nakamoto only knows who he is, how do I know? It's like you're suggesting me to "go to the moon and bring a piece of rock".

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April 24, 2019, 05:35:23 PM
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You're the person who red trusted me for the first time. I didn't care it too much till now. But, I've a big shame about my self now.

That's because, My account was red trusted by such a babyish DT user. Grin
As long as that's the only thing you can do  Cheesy Grin
After I answer your questions, you resort to ad-hominem snarky remarks. Why even bother? Is this your answer to the cognitive dissonance?

As long as Satoshi Nakamoto only knows who he is, how do I know? It's like you're suggesting me to "go to the moon and bring a piece of rock".
That's the point. I don't want a ransom. I don't want any payment.
Don't double-post.

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April 24, 2019, 05:37:46 PM
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P.S: I expect a reply for this?
Lol.  And I got your PM:


After reading what you just wrote, the only question I have is what are you expecting me to respond to?  I don't even understand what you're trying to say in that post.  I don't know what my trust score has to do with anything, don't know what whales have to do with anything--I can't comprehend what you were trying to get across in that post. 

If anyone else can decipher your private code, I would be happy to give you some sort of answer.

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April 24, 2019, 05:49:40 PM
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You're the person who red trusted me for the first time. I didn't care it too much till now. But, I've a big shame about my self now.

That's because, My account was red trusted by such a babyish DT user. Grin
As long as that's the only thing you can do  Cheesy Grin
After I answer your questions, you resort to ad-hominem snarky remarks. Why even bother? Is this your answer to the cognitive dissonance?

As long as Satoshi Nakamoto only knows who he is, how do I know? It's like you're suggesting me to "go to the moon and bring a piece of rock".
That's the point. I don't want a ransom. I don't want any payment.
Don't double-post.

"you resort to ad-hominem snarky remarks. Why even bother? Is this your answer to the cognitive dissonance?" - Don't think too much along the word "Babyish".

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That's the point. I don't want a ransom. I don't want any payment.

Who tried to give you a ransom?  Grin

Go to the top of the thread.. read the thread.... I'm just asked a question... have I noted anywhere that I need to remove my negative trust?

Reactions of DTs were very awesome  Grin Grin I got another two quick red trusts... But, these kind of poor reactions silently demonstrate the IQ level of DTs. Thomas,  this is up to you.


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P.S: I expect a reply for this?
Lol.  And I got your PM:


After reading what you just wrote, the only question I have is what are you expecting me to respond to?  I don't even understand what you're trying to say in that post.  I don't know what my trust score has to do with anything, don't know what whales have to do with anything--I can't comprehend what you were trying to get across in that post. 

If anyone else can decipher your private code, I would be happy to give you some sort of answer.

It's OK, I got your answer. That means, you don't have an answer.

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Go to the top of the thread.. read the thread.... I'm just asked a question... have I noted anywhere that I need to remove my negative trust?
It's implied.

How much is the ransom for removing a red trust and to whom I should pay?

If you're trying to say that this is without intent then that's fine. But it also means that I can't take anything you say seriously.

If that is the case, then correspondence will subsequently cease.
It's OK, I got your answer. That means, you don't have an answer.
Stop double-posting.

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Thomas,  this is up to you.
Who's Thomas and why is it up to him? Huh

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Go to the top of the thread.. read the thread.... I'm just asked a question... have I noted anywhere that I need to remove my negative trust?
It's implied.

How much is the ransom for removing a red trust and to whom I should pay?

If you're trying to say that this is without intent then that's fine. But it also means that I can't take anything you say seriously.

If that is the case, then correspondence will subsequently cease.
It's OK, I got your answer. That means, you don't have an answer.
Stop double-posting.

Why are you always yelling as "stop double-posting"? I'm answering where I need to answer. It's a right I've. If my action will be a problem for the forum script, it would be blocked me. Mention your boundaries, you're only a DT, not a ruler.

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Why are you always yelling as "stop double-posting"? I'm answering where I need to answer. It's a right I've. If my action will be a problem for the forum script, it would be blocked me.
Hm...

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

You were saying?

Mention your boundaries, you're only a DT, not a ruler.
I've always thought of myself as a protractor.

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Why are you always yelling as "stop double-posting"? I'm answering where I need to answer. It's a right I've. If my action will be a problem for the forum script, it would be blocked me. Mention your boundaries, you're only a DT, not a ruler.
You can create multiple posts on a single row and that is policy violation you should know it. You can provide as many information as you want on the same post if no one posted after you and also you can edit your post to provide more information.
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If anyone else can decipher your private code

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You can create multiple posts on a single row and that is policy violation you should know it. You can provide as many information as you want on the same post if no one posted after you and also you can edit your post to provide more information.

Thanks for the information. This is something I hadn't known before.

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You can create multiple posts on a single row and that is policy violation you should know it. You can provide as many information as you want on the same post if no one posted after you and also you can edit your post to provide more information.

Thanks for the information. This is something I hadn't known before.
See forum rules number 32, you can see it from this link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0
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I've left you the answer in your trust page.

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