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April 24, 2019, 07:22:51 PM
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Are there any services around, providing wallets for BTC, ETC and other currencies which can be used by gambling site to deposit/withdraw/exchange crypto from users, without actually implementing connection to crypto network?
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April 25, 2019, 03:59:25 PM
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Are there any services around, providing wallets for BTC, ETC and other currencies which can be used by gambling site to deposit/withdraw/exchange crypto from users, without actually implementing connection to crypto network?

Can you explain this a little more ?  Do you need a gambling site which also provide the trading services as you mentioned "exchange crypto" ?
Well, i dont think if there is any such site and Also i am not sure its good idea
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April 25, 2019, 04:25:17 PM
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Are there any services around, providing wallets for BTC, ETC and other currencies which can be used by gambling site to deposit/withdraw/exchange crypto from users, without actually implementing connection to crypto network?

Can you explain this a little more ?  Do you need a gambling site which also provide the trading services as you mentioned "exchange crypto" ?
Well, i dont think if there is any such site and Also i am not sure its good idea

He is looking for a wallet service instead of a gambling site if I understand it correctly. A wallet that can be connected directly to a gambling site so users do not need to deposit/withdraw.
Maybe something like Moneypot, it was a wallet for gamblers that can be connected to gambling sites/apps that uses the moneypot API.
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April 25, 2019, 06:48:52 PM
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Didn't you already create a thread recently regarding the same topic op? I thought no one was able to clear your query there. Anyway, I don't see why you felt the need to open another thread regarding this topic.

Delete one of the threads and stick to one thread only.

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April 25, 2019, 07:32:21 PM
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Delete one of the threads and stick to one thread only.

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April 25, 2019, 07:40:27 PM
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Are there any services around, providing wallets for BTC, ETC and other currencies which can be used by gambling site to deposit/withdraw/exchange crypto from users, without actually implementing connection to crypto network?

Can you explain this a little more ?  Do you need a gambling site which also provide the trading services as you mentioned "exchange crypto" ?
Well, i dont think if there is any such site and Also i am not sure its good idea

He is looking for a wallet service instead of a gambling site if I understand it correctly. A wallet that can be connected directly to a gambling site so users do not need to deposit/withdraw.
Maybe something like Moneypot, it was a wallet for gamblers that can be connected to gambling sites/apps that uses the moneypot API.


Users will deposit to generated address (which will be generated for each user) and deposit command will send to user's wallet.
I could go with creating full node next to my server, but no resources now for maintaining it and it's out of scope.
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April 26, 2019, 02:37:09 AM
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I am not sure about any on-chain gambling sites for btc, etc as there is transaction costs for these coins, however you can look at fee less coins such as eos, steem, tron — most gambling dApps on these platforms provide on-chain gambling, although you will need to lock some funds to get resources. Feel free to pm me if you need help with steem/eos.

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April 26, 2019, 10:25:16 PM
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A wallet that can be connected directly to a gambling site so users do not need to deposit/withdraw.
Maybe something like Moneypot, it was a wallet for gamblers that can be connected to gambling sites/apps that uses the moneypot API.

I think OP your question has been answered and moneypot[1] is all that you need. See for yourself if it is what you need.

[1] https://www.moneypot.com/

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April 27, 2019, 07:26:42 AM
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A wallet that can be connected directly to a gambling site so users do not need to deposit/withdraw.
Maybe something like Moneypot, it was a wallet for gamblers that can be connected to gambling sites/apps that uses the moneypot API.

I think OP your question has been answered and moneypot[1] is all that you need. See for yourself if it is what you need.

[1] https://www.moneypot.com/


Is it like a decentalized gambling or somewhat? But how they are able to trade cross-chain?
It would be safer for funds holder but would be limited as they won't be able to trade coins that have different blockchain.

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April 27, 2019, 08:39:40 AM
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You mean a third party to deposit btc when betting online casino? Well, the online betting casino.platform has already provided this and having third party is not really necesary. Just create an account in an online casino betting platform.and send your btc to their platform directly to your account. If anything will not going to go well like losing your deposits the. Show your bitcoin.tracker if it is successful or not. The block chain wi tell amd will never lie.
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April 27, 2019, 08:49:06 AM
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You mean a third party to deposit btc when betting online casino? Well, the online betting casino.platform has already provided this and having third party is not really necesary. Just create an account in an online casino betting platform.and send your btc to their platform directly to your account. If anything will not going to go well like losing your deposits the. Show your bitcoin.tracker if it is successful or not. The block chain wi tell amd will never lie.

Third party deposit AND withdraw. Actually I am not casino user, but developer. Of course alternative option is to make full node, but at this point I don't want to invest in that.

To sum up what I've found so far, for others in need:

mycelium - no withdraw, only deposit
coingate
bitpay
coinify
gocoin
bitgo - requires 1mln USD monthly traffic
bitaps

However, most of the services are following gambling regulation rules, which needs merchant verification, anti-money-laundry measures etc.. Moreover, from 1st May there is new regulation, which requires merchant verification even for crypto-to-crypto transactions.
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April 27, 2019, 10:02:50 AM
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Though in it's early development and few gambling website integrating it, bitcoin lightning network provides many of the functions you want. They provide a instant zero fee transactions between wallet and sites providing you maximum use of each of your satoshi. I have no extensive knowledge about the lightning network but it seems to be similar to moneypot but not limited in gambling sites. Even popular services like bitrefill and exchanges had started supporting lightning network.



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April 27, 2019, 10:10:05 AM
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Though in it's early development and few gambling website integrating it, bitcoin lightning network provides many of the functions you want. They provide a instant zero fee transactions between wallet and sites providing you maximum use of each of your satoshi. I have no extensive knowledge about the lightning network but it seems to be similar to moneypot but not limited in gambling sites. Even popular services like bitrefill and exchanges had started supporting lightning network.
That would be a good news. Instead of creating a project for wallet services having the bitcoin lightning network will be able to cover the needs of the users for the platform.

But if bitcoin wallet third party service is really needed then I think I.have not seen any projects implemented regarding with its purpose. Maybe others will going to see this and make an idea then start a project.
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April 27, 2019, 10:15:06 AM
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Though in it's early development and few gambling website integrating it, bitcoin lightning network provides many of the functions you want. They provide a instant zero fee transactions between wallet and sites providing you maximum use of each of your satoshi. I have no extensive knowledge about the lightning network but it seems to be similar to moneypot but not limited in gambling sites. Even popular services like bitrefill and exchanges had started supporting lightning network.
But if bitcoin wallet third party service is really needed then I think I.have not seen any projects implemented regarding with its purpose. Maybe others will going to see this and make an idea then start a project.

Using third party service doesn't mean players are redirected to gateway site, make payment and come back. All services are providing API, which implemented by casino and as a player you have no chance to know if it's third party wallet broker or direct connection.
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April 27, 2019, 10:23:41 PM
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Third party deposit AND withdraw. Actually I am not casino user, but developer. Of course alternative option is to make full node, but at this point I don't want to invest in that.

To sum up what I've found so far, for others in need:

mycelium - no withdraw, only deposit
coingate
bitpay
coinify
gocoin
bitgo - requires 1mln USD monthly traffic
bitaps

However, most of the services are following gambling regulation rules, which needs merchant verification, anti-money-laundry measures etc.. Moreover, from 1st May there is new regulation, which requires merchant verification even for crypto-to-crypto transactions.
Most of them has strict rules to follow especially if the service would be alongwith gambling.

Is it like a decentalized gambling or somewhat? But how they are able to trade cross-chain?
It would be safer for funds holder but would be limited as they won't be able to trade coins that have different blockchain.
Moneypot isn't a casino, it is a wallet that you can use across different services and gambling is included with that support. About trading, this would depend on the casinos feature if they would like to add their very own exchange on their platform.
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April 28, 2019, 12:29:20 AM
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Moneypot is really a good choice. It's a standard wallet which could support bitcoin services.
Depositing is instant even before confirming which is a good point. If you're looking for an innovative web wallet, money pot is convenient though there are minimal security issues but they fix it right away.
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May 03, 2019, 10:34:54 PM
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Are there any services around, providing wallets for BTC, ETC and other currencies which can be used by gambling site to deposit/withdraw/exchange crypto from users, without actually implementing connection to crypto network?

Can you explain this a little more ?  Do you need a gambling site which also provide the trading services as you mentioned "exchange crypto" ?
Well, i dont think if there is any such site and Also i am not sure its good idea

He is looking for a wallet service instead of a gambling site if I understand it correctly. A wallet that can be connected directly to a gambling site so users do not need to deposit/withdraw.
Maybe something like Moneypot, it was a wallet for gamblers that can be connected to gambling sites/apps that uses the moneypot API.

I think it is the best for what OP is looking for .
I tried it before on a gambling site but couldn't remember the site and my account .
But it is a good one for sure a lot of good feed back.

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May 03, 2019, 10:52:10 PM
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Moneypot is really a good choice. It's a standard wallet which could support bitcoin services.
Depositing is instant even before confirming which is a good point. If you're looking for an innovative web wallet, money pot is convenient though there are minimal security issues but they fix it right away.
The problem is their wallet doesn't work with any popular gambling website (I'm referring here to what the OP is looking for). Yes Moneypot is probably the best choice here in this case but I honestly wouldn't really work with this because you can only use it on 4-5 websites and I've never ever heard about those gambling platforms before
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May 04, 2019, 04:01:53 AM
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Moneypot is really a good choice. It's a standard wallet which could support bitcoin services.
Depositing is instant even before confirming which is a good point. If you're looking for an innovative web wallet, money pot is convenient though there are minimal security issues but they fix it right away.
The problem is their wallet doesn't work with any popular gambling website (I'm referring here to what the OP is looking for). Yes Moneypot is probably the best choice here in this case but I honestly wouldn't really work with this because you can only use it on 4-5 websites and I've never ever heard about those gambling platforms before

Agree, I only know moneypot however, only few accepts moneypot and this doesn't include famous gambling sites.  So, there might be none at the moment, so better to use any wallet you think will give you more convenience when gambling.

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May 04, 2019, 08:37:41 AM
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Moneypot is really a good choice. It's a standard wallet which could support bitcoin services.
Depositing is instant even before confirming which is a good point. If you're looking for an innovative web wallet, money pot is convenient though there are minimal security issues but they fix it right away.
The problem is their wallet doesn't work with any popular gambling website (I'm referring here to what the OP is looking for). Yes Moneypot is probably the best choice here in this case but I honestly wouldn't really work with this because you can only use it on 4-5 websites and I've never ever heard about those gambling platforms before

Agree, I only know moneypot however, only few accepts moneypot and this doesn't include famous gambling sites.  So, there might be none at the moment, so better to use any wallet you think will give you more convenience when gambling.

If you say so means that you do not even know how moneypot works. Moneypot is not the one which is accepted by gambling sites, but gambling sites are using their API and bankroll as well as wallet service to run the gambling sites. Means that anyone who want to own gambling sites but do not have enough bankroll to start then they can use moneypot.
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